with me now jerry boykin, former secretary of defense. general, we've been building up for this. we have several dates. the main question is, is it too late? has vladimir putin crossed the rubicon or is there still a slim chance that maybe this invasion ever happens? >> well, obviously putin could stop it now if he chose to do so. i think the problem is his intent all along has been to invade the ukraine and to establish essentially a russian presence there. so i think he could stop it, but i don't think he will. >> charles: when russia says they will use military tactical measures, what does that mean? >> yeah, what does that mean? i think that what he's trying to say is or what -- the message he's trying to convey is that this will be a tactical battle. in other words, they will use aircraft, they will use artillery, they will use ground forces and mobility. but this would not be a more strategic thing. they would bring in, for example, strategic rockets or anything above the level of conventional munitions. >> charles: we heard secretary blinken talk about the pretext for a vi

we have jerry boykin here. he served this country so honorably., ukraine now looking to prescribe shoulders don't want soldiers bear just in case, let's inform the military here. what do you think of all this? >> first of all, let me just say it's good to see you back on the program. and god bless you for getting through that. this is all hands on deck. this is all or nothing for the ukraine. this is survival, this is russia's an existential threat and they are pulling out all stops to be prepared for what is inevitable, i believe, which is an all-out russian assault on the entire country. >> general, a lot of people are surprised that vladimir putin hasn't buckled in the face of what's going to be fairly massive sanctions. we are going to get to a point where russia will find a way to sell anything anywhere to anyone or even clear financial accounts through any bank anywhere. it is fairly substantial when all is said and done. having said that, he's ignoring it and seems hell-bent on this attack. why? >> well, first of all, he calculated this a l

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later on stage, he was honest about president boykin's assertion with president putin has decided to invade in the next few days. a level of individual or as a me than when we stand ready to respond to everything in the one we cannot remain passive then how can you live in a state where you are told on a daily basis that war will happen, that tomorrow the advance will happen it means crushing national courtesy, money being taken out, businesses closing. can you live in that kind of country and i know can you have stability in that kind of country? is novi. she also questioned why the announcement of the details of western sanctions. it thought should only come without any invasion, but to war wood to guide. now we don't need your sanctions after the bombardment yet after our country has been fired at e after we had no borders right after we had no economy or when part of our country will be occupied a come, why do we need the sanction? is there war and he just from nato and e. u leaders, a threatening, unprecedented sweeping sanctions on russia. but the details are not finalized. i a

former secretary general jerry boykin joins me now.re seems to be a lot of confusion about all of this. >> it's a very confusing situation and has been for some time. i actually am more optimistic now that putin has not made a final decision. what we're seeing is not only america trying to stand against this invasion of ukraine, but i think we're seeing the europeans now starting to step up to the plate. macron's visit with putin and his diplomatic negotiations is a good indicator that the europeans are stepping up and realizing that this is really a european problem as more or more than it is a nato problem. >> charles: there's one part of this that americans are also concerned about this, the closer relationship that's been forged between russia and china. essentially russia has its own objectives and china being taiwan. does that have -- is there anything that the biden presidency should be trying to break that apart as well? >> yeah. but i'm not sure how they do that. again, both the chinese and the russians have seen nothing but w

former deputy undersecretary of defense general with jerry boykin joins us now.e week the president was saying that, in fact, it looked like the russian troops were withdrawing from the region. now we're hearing that, in fact, there may be a buildup and that it could, an invasion could happen at any time. there is fog of war, and i understand in fog of war a lot of miscommunication gets in there, but then there's also misinformation. what's going on here? >> well, you've got a lot of both. clearly this fog of war -- and i think that even the secretary-general of the nato came out saying that even though they are saying they're withdrawing, it doesn't look like that's what they're really doing. if there's obviously a ruse of some kind here. at the same time that the president was saying that there was some indications that they were withdrawing. so i think there is a lot of misinformation. i think the russians are running a psychological operation, campaign as well as a cyber attack on the ukrainians. so i think you've got a lot of both. this is a very dynamic and

your hand. incidentally, when talk of the european union, i also mean the countries of the west and boykin's you have, i don't suppose it is not enough to cite the prospect of enlargement for this region. as a strategic goal. we must actively advance it when this morning that he does believe meals over your music. i'm pleased that so many colleagues from the region i hear to day because this task is a sham one is on your own. this little girl's mom on the european union. our framework for action, our opportunity to remain a power among powers, and that is what we mean when we talk of european sovereignty on the path to achieving this. we need 3 things. firstly, the willingness to act as a power among palace. my secondly, joint strategic goal under thirdly, the capabilities to meet these goals on own habit. we are working on all these faculties, i'm withdrawn from the war of conflicts, and they also may clear the level of ambition that the e used new strategic compacts. my compact must regional and includes european efforts to find terrorism from civilian stabilization to equipment and to mil

lieutenant general jerry boykin with us. general, first of all, what did you think of olena?esents the incredible bravery of a people who are not going to fold to vladimir putin. >> you know, when she was talking it dawned on me that is exactly what vladimir putin has underestimated, is that kind of resolve by the ukrainian people. and i, frankly, think that she -- this woman, we ought to hirer if hurt u.s. state department. her for the u.s. state department. neil: so, general, when you see what's happening there, the enormous -- obviously, those holed up in shelters and hiding out in their homes, most of them with weapons, what they really want are soldiers not only from the united states, but from nato countries that have already been activated in the area around i believe the first time that's happened in nato history. that seems extremely unlikely, doesn't it, general? >> yeah. and i don't think that there's my chance that putin actually believes that any of that is going to happen. that his demands are going to be met, and he came into this determined to invade and take