a benefit for breitbart news. to me it is, if a lot of the tack that's he's been taking, rigged elections, everybody working against them. that's breitbart's marketing plan i'm a big believer that steve bannon is a lot smarter than donald trump and he is really driving this. he has gotten to the point where there is a high probability donald will not went. so he is playing it out to the benefit of breitbart news. how many think he's saying that truly, donald's perspective and his positions, versus things, could they help breitbart news? when you listen to donald talk in his speeches, it is almost far more beneficial for breitbart. >> interesting. thank you for joining us. i appreciate it, man. >> my pleasure. >> we have a lot more to come. i'll talk on a member of the trump campaign. and later, kareem abdul jabbar, the one and only, joins no discuss the climb for muslim americans during the election. [ keyboard typing ] intercom: the library is now closing. ok kid, closing up. goodnight. the hardest part about hom

. >> you don't think breitbart news -- >> breitbart news is not running for office. >> steven bannon is the architect of donald trump's campaign. what do you believe breitbart represents? >> nobody runs donald trump's -- >> for all the stuff you're throwing around, racist, the last thing donald trump is is racist. i've known him for 28 years. the man likes white people, he likes black people, he likes hispanic people, he plays golf with him. he opened up the first club in palm beach that allowed jewish people, italian people like me who couldn't get into those clubs. >> can you say that steven bannon doesn't run his campaign? >> donald trump runs donald trump's campaign. >> what is he doing paying steven bannon. >> there are a lot of people who do different things. to say donald trump is a racist is outrageous. to call anybody a racist is outrageous. >> hold on, there are people you can call racist. >> you can't call him racist. the man has done more for minorities over the last 30 years in terms of opening facilities for them, hiring them, promoting them, promoting the first woman t

now the breitbart boss. what has been his role this week with trump's behavior? >> well, you know, when i saw the use of the clinton accusers at the debate, it certainly seemed to have the name steve bannon written all over it. it's the kind of theater that he specializes in. and i think that he is a huge influence on that campaign, and the distance between breitbart and the trump campaign is virtually nothing at this point, and we've seen that for many months. >> and breitbart, its idea is publishing is a form of warfare. media is a form of warfare. and that's what we're seeing. david, one last thought for you. we'll have the debate on wednesday. it's going to be moderated by chris wallace of fox news. it's the first time fox news has ever moderated a liberal debate. do you think liberals are right to have any concerns about chris wallace? >> who is a better interviewer in america than chris wallace? he'll do a fantastic job. >> margaret, do you agree? >> i think chris is pretty tough. i was concerned when he said he didn't believe in truth squadding or fact che

andrew breitbart was all about the fight.ct we call ourselves internally the fight club. >> taking aim at the establishment wing of the party. >> we don't really believe there is a functional conservative party in the country. we certainly don't think the republican party is that. >> ban steams to have been oning to take him down for some time. e-mails obtained by the hill number show bannan telling his breitbart staff the long game is to have ryan gone by spring. breitbart producing head lines against ryan over the years, desperate, failing and running scared. a foe and a fight which trump is tagging into the ring now, even suggesting if he becomes president, ryan's speakership might be in jeopardy. >> i would think that ryan maybe wouldn't be there. maybe he'll be in a different position. >> and those attacks on paul ryan is something trump did keep up today going after ryan by name, bashing ryan for critiquing him rather than praising him after last week's debate. >> thank you very much. my panel is back with me. nia, to y

. >> i would call it a breitbart debate, breitbart, steve bannon, the ceo of the campaign. mean, starting with the clinton women, bringing them in and all that stuff. >> ever hear of the ceo of a campaign before? that's a new one for me. >> you have this amazing snapshot from paul ryan's district and he gets up there. the great thing about fall fest, we talk about conservative values. "you're a traitor." you can say, i don't like what he said or what he said was despicable. but down ballot, that's -- the base is still with donald trump. >> that's also a tea party world, too. i thought most members of congress, jot john boehner or paul ryan. the real boss is the drunk in the last row of the last town meeting. >> and the boss is with trump. and now they have to explain why they walked away from donald trump when his base is going to be even more hopped up, because they got all their breitbart erogenous zones -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> robert redford is the solo sailor who keeps bailing him out. eventually the ship sinks. i do believe he won the debate tonight. i believe h

why, here the republican party folks are saying donald trump needs to get out of the breitbart cul-de-sac. he needs to stop doing thing like inviting malik obama. he needs to be reaching to the voters between the 40%, 38% he's at now and the 46 or 47 he needs to win. is that a legitimate complaint? >> i take issue that you consider it trolg that he is inviting mr. obama. he has chosen not to support the person his brother supports. as for trump reaching out, he does that every day. he is on the campaign trail every day. two, three cities a day

so now we wake up this morning, and this campaign is going fu full breitbart.ou almost cannot overstate how potentially ugly and bizarre this is. we are one speech, one rally away from donald trump, the republican nominee, going full alex jones in this campaign. he's obviously going to lose the election, but he's going to lose it ugly. and apparently the idea of burning it down. they're going to be burning down the entire republican party, if that includes wiping out the down ballot, apparently guys like steve bannon and donald trump are completely okay with that. >> the part that i don't understand is what do these people want? they sound like anarchists to my. the idea that, do they want anyone to be speaker of the house? do they want a house where there is no speaker? i just don't get at what chaotic level they want everything reduced to. >> so i've introduced a lot of people who've worked with steve bannon, and they say that his world ryu is that paul ryan is the leader of a globalist, elitist conspiracy that is trying to destroy america via open borders an

breitbart is now touting this exclusive video. they say it's a news reporter telling her story for the first time saying that it happened back in 1980. so jeremy, this is now what breitbart is trying to put out there ahead of the debate. >> i think what this really points to is a belief inside the trump campaign and a believe among certain conservatives that the republican establishment has failed to take on the clintons on their terms as they would say. they failed to use the kind of brutal hand to hand combat they believe the clintons have been so effective at. now, of course, i haven't seen the clintons go around dredging up old sexual assault stories from 20 years ago. but certainly this is what you see here, kind of this belief on the right that the republicans have been too timid in taking on the clintons and this is what this is. >> we have not con firmed this report as we've not confirmed any of the allegations involving trump that have made the headlines over the past two weeks now. this is, again, something that breitbar

so, david, if you look at breitbart's front page this morning, breitbart is a blog, steve bannon runs that site, it's like trump's strategy online for everyone to see, right? >> yeah. no, look, the strategy that we've seen from donald trump the past couple of days is what breitbart readers, what the new right, the alt right, if you will, wants to hear from him. look, go back to friday night. people were openly speculating that trump might drop out of the race because of the "access hollywood" tape. he was defiant. he was defiant in the debate whether it repulsed democrats or swing voters. for the breitbart crowd, the idea of calling hillary clinton a hip krit, the idea of saying the country has run amuck on political correctness, not mincing words with his disagreement with the establishment, that is what they want to hear. they're banking on this idea that defiance is going to bring trump's core supporters out to vote and in a turnout election, that's what counts. >> paul, just to follow up on what david said, the washington post is saying bannon is now at trump's side telling him to

by breitbart. i think that announcement that she will be there. >> she is accusing in this breitbart interview, she's accusing bill clinton, an arkansas tv reporter, accusing him of unwanted advances in the 1980s. >> the term she uses is sexual assault. that was in the story of breitbart. we have not spoken to her at this moment. that story has been circulating now on the hard right. it's become a clamorous story, that's something the trump campaign tells us they want to highlight tonight. this is going to be an aggressive donald trum. >> this is his last time to go face to face with hillary clinton in this campaign. tell us behind the scenes, in terms of that strategy you're talking about, where is that coming from, reports that chris christie is stepping back from this campaign. kellyanne conway, we had her on the air this morning. who's the brain trust? >> if you think about the trump campaign, you think of it as two people, steven bannon and donald trump to really go after secretary clinton and

i mean, look, you know, steve bannon, the head of breitbart, running the trump campaign -- or is ceo in the trump campaign, and breitbart -- didn't just enable the alt-right, it is published extended piece rationalizing the alt-right, and leading some of these online mobs into attacking and harassing people and that guy is the in the middle of the trump campaign, and anne colter has consistently stoked the alt-right and she's one of his chief media cheerleaders. they've done the opposite. even donald trump himself re-tweeted some of these alt-right accounts, which is unconscionable. so i don't know -- i don't say that donald trump is orchestrating any of this. i don't have any evidence of that, but i know his campaign is doing nothing to stand in its way and some top people in his campaign have helped power the alt-right move itself. >> so many commentators and social media, and at rallies, yours have been more personal than that. we all worry because we all get sort of hateful responses from -- from some of these people. take a look. this is what some cnn -- what cnn cameras caught

is steve bannon, the man behind breitbart who bragged about being his campaign manager before he came on board, they can cause tremendous damage. >> well, i think that causing tremendous damage is all they have left. i can't believe that people that are around him would actually think he has a shot at winning at this point. let's face it. there's no way that the october surprises are done. there's no way that donald trump is done making an ass out of himself. over and over. when ted cruz endorsed him, when other people that i used to support endorsed him, they would say, well, this is who he is and we all know who he is and they would forget that he's going to reveal new things. it's not just the stuff from 2005. it will be new th things that he has said. going forward, people that don't understand that it's just going to get worse from here, it is going to cause that mass extinction event that matt was talking about. >> you have written really powerfully about the incentive structure in the sort of conservative media, the world of conservative movement. i want to be clear. i don't wa

breitbart -- breitbart editor-in-chief told cnn this is the movement. folks who have no idea what that means, describe the movemen movement. >> well, this is a strain of populist conservatives who don't like wall street banks, tend to be very nationalistic in their politics, some of them are actual white nationalists but basically they view themselves as being into opposition of the mainstream republican party as represented by people like paul ryan, mitch mcconnell. so they've been a thorn in the side of those republicans, they help drive out house speaker john boehner out of his job and they've moved into trump tower and are running donald trump's presidential campaign. >> so you're the one this week. you talked to steve bannon, ceo of the trump campaign who told you -- and i'm paraphrasing -- that they're going to go bill cosby on bill clinton. based man who you know and listening to trump today, what kind of conversations do you think are swirling between donald trump, steve bannon and roger ailes right now. >> the quote from bannon, to be clear, ca

i think they basically decided breitbart's going to burn down the republican party. and steve bann enon wants to establish a white nationalist party in its place. donald trump has been the avatar of that. breitbart has been basically one long in kind contribution to donald trump for this entire election cycle. i think you're going to have, you know, republicans like paul ryan and several republicans in the senate who stick with donald trump, who refuse to say we can't allow this, we can't adopt this, we can't be these people. you know, they're going to lose -- they may lose the republican party as a viable national political brand over time by sticking with a guy who essentially has become, as you said, the mouthpiece of an alt right website run by guys who are flat out enamored with authoritarians. >> quickly to the numbers. this new online poll out of ohio. from baldwin wallace university. it shows hillary clinton up nine. she's at 26%. donald trump at 26%. she told "new york times" magazine, quote, i'm the last thing standing between you and the apocalypse. how wo

breitbart was run by trump's campaign's ceo until august. the outlet could not fully substantiate her claims. but trump isn't seating benghazi mother pat smith in the front row. aiming to hammer clinton on her record overseas, using smith to force a confrontation. >> i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son. >> trump also inviting ambassador chris stevens' one-time fiancee, afghanistan lone survivor marcus latrell. four mothers killed by undocumented immigrants and president obama's estranged kenyan half-brother. trump turning the final debate into a spectacle when gop really needs is to tone it down. >> he desperately needs to change what swing voters think about him. that requires presidential temperament. a new and improved donald trump. >> in the days since the last debate, trump did not lighten his schedule, squeezing in prep on his plane between events, yesterday joined by generals mike flynn and keith kellogg. nbc has learned that trump still shuns mock debates but rnc chief reince priebus did fill in as unofficial m

one of your colleagues writing about breitbart. can you explain about what's happening now and what are the implications for trump's campaign and for the republican party once the election is over, regardless of who is in the white house? >> yeah, of course. i mean, the trump campaign led in part by steve bannon, one of the executives over at breitbart news, very, you know, sort of hard right, sort of -- a lot of people refer to as the alt-right movement. they have really not liked paul ryan for many, many months. and there is this new article, obviously, out today, this morning on breitbart that really hammers paul ryan, accuses him of being part of this plot to elect hillary clinton. and it's yet another one of these pieces on the mosaic that show a trump campaign being led by in steve bannon anti establishment forces that don't like the gop, the moderate gop, the people who have been, you know, the more popular faces in the party. and as trump continues to go down at the polls, we're seeing a more aggressive tax, someone not --

breitbart was run by trump's ceo until august. the outlet could not fully substantiate her claims. but trump isn't stopping there, seating benghazi mother pat smith in the using smith to force a confrontation. >> i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son. >> trump also inviting ambassador chris stevens one-time fiancee. afghanistan lone survivor marcus latrell. four mothers killed by undocumented immigrants and president obama's estranged kenyan half-brother. trump turning the final debate into a spectacle when gol to tone it down. >> he needs to change what swing voters think about him. that require as presidential temperament. >> in the days since the last debate, trump did not lighten his schedule, squeezing in prep on his plane between events, jed joinedgy generals mike flynn and keith kellogg. nbc has learned that trump still shuns mock debates but rnc chief reince priebus did fill in as unofficial moderator. the goal to prep trump on rapid-fire responses while finding ways to knock clinton off her game. on policy, trump's team said they'll highlight what they

now, if you haven't heard of breitbart news, that means you do not have a racist uncle on facebook. ( laughter ) bannon is ow political brawler. according to one former spokesperson for breitbart: "he is someone who is prone to profanity-laced tirades at all hours of the night." which is a refreshing change of pace from donald trump, who likes to go to bed early. and bannon has a bold new direction for the mpaign, because "bannon has convinced trump that the rest of the campaign needs to be bare- knuckles brawl with huge rallies. gloves off." that's right. is behind in the polls is that he's been too civil, and now the gloves are off. the tiny, tiny gs. ( laughter ) ( cheers and applause ) by the way-- i'm fairly confident donald trump would have no trouble with the pole vault. we'll be right back with amy schumer. ? ? ? ? every time i travel, ( cheers and applause ) it's the moments that are most rewarding. because you'll never forget them. the new marriott portfolio of hotels now has 30 brands in over 110 countries. so no matter where you go, you are here. like i couldn't be the fat

that was from breitbart. breitbart and glenn beck have been in a war for a long time.ook his denunciation donald trump and spun it to say he was voting for clinton. he'd does not endorse hillary clinton, he will not vote for hillary clinton. he is not going to vote for clinton. that is the thing happening. if you are not voting for donald trump, you are supporting clinton. the influence on the donald trump campaign and what does it mean in the world of can serve it is media? bannon has been unofficially a campaign manager since last fall. influential from the start. it is important because bright part does not define itself as conservative. it is closely tied to -- and the fringe writes up -- any right supremacist anti-semitic rights, has its toehold in breitbart. what is important, not only that you have conservative media in .he campaign confrontational style of conservative media. that it represents a different part of the right wing spectrum. he represents a different part of the american right. host: breitbart, does that make ties to the movement or is that percep

it is a breitbart campaign. the media organization, a galaxy of websites and figures has up is planted the gop and made their own messaging. a dark false hoods, suggestions about the president, about secretary clinton. this has now become the republican party nominee. this is campaign. >> what is your emotion supposed to be? >> it feels like entertainment. at what point do we bring up these reports about trump folks going and talking to seed investors in new york about a post trump tv network? to me, this -- >> don't speculate. if you believe, that say so. do you believe the trump campaign is not about winning the presidency but developing a tv net boring? >> even if he wins. he who's. trump wants to survive this. >> trump said it is false. the kind of model, it would have to be subscription based. this thing of an uber conservative network i asked trump about it many times on the record. he said no, no, no. >> not necessarily a tv network. i think you're right. the blaze tv didn't make it. think about donald tr

several years ago when it's working with breitbart news, and -- spin the older breitbart. >> i'm going to ask you about that. >> owned by andrew breitbart. >> okay, let. and that concludes your time. [laughter] >> larry o'connor is now close to one of the heritage rita stations in the top genre wmal in washington, d.c. and is the only a bright guy but he is a very funny guy with theatrical background. into his left is a guy i've been saying for a number of years is a rising young star. is already not rising to music there, one of the most successful morning host in america at 50,000-watt flamethrower as we call it the business, debbie ph.d in philadelphia, chris stigall. there is our panel. [applause] >> larry, you start us off. you opened the door but what is the difference between right part today and breitbart back when you were there speak with i was make a bit of a joke but i think breitbart news now, well, the past ceo of breitbart news, steven and income and when those left the website to become the ceo of the trump campaign. i have been outspoken about the fact that during the

it is like breitbart, probably lesser known to the mainstream public but it is one of those sites onlineou know how the conveyor belt works? is trump reading this himself? are people pitching it? hey, you should talk about this question mark how does it go from saying hillary clinton has a drug problem to him saying it on the stump? phil: i wish i knew. it started at info wars with roger stone advancing the theory in an interview with alex jones and then all of a sudden it came out of trump's mouth over the weekend at the rally in new hampshire. somehow or another, trump is getting the information in front of them. i do not know if it is stephen bannon or somebody else, but there is some conduit. mark: it would be fascinating to know if people are pitching it to him or showing it to them and he is using it himself. of course, particularly with the debate coming up, all campaigns worried that if you say something in front of the candidate or to the candidate, he or she may blurt it out on the stump. he had a teleprompter at that speech. i wonder if it was on the prompter or that was an ad

. >> a potential of him having a youtube channel, maybe teaming up with breitbart with subscriptions and going back to this with speaker ryan, does this mean now he says i'm not going to vote for donald trump? that's where we are again for this party or country. if you don't subscribe to what this person says and believes, do you take a larger step against them? where are we with the republicans saying more, or do they need to? >> listen, i'm not sure there are many tools in the tool box for hurting trump within the party except simply not supporting him. but what you may see as the senate and house committees and their candidates peel away from donald trump is essentially that his field organization is kind of on their own. traditionally, you have the party field organization working at every level together. what you can see is a senate and house campaign essentially kind of going their own way in this whole election and leaving trump by himself at the rnc. >> so the report earlier in the weekend that they would divert money from his campaign, obviously, kelly ann and others deny th

so he's playing this whole thing out to the benefit of breitbart news. i'm telling you when you listen to donald talk in his speeches, it's almost all far more beneficial for breitbart. >> the discussion was clear, trump is paving the way for the trump tv audience. >> post-debate -- he is -- >> tell me about this every time. >> every day. every day. >> senior advisers -- >> trump tv is here. in 60 seconds. >>> the trump campaign called it a facebook live -- started 30 minutes before debate, complete with fox-ish graphic. basically the birth of trump tv. the guests where other trump campaign surrogates like jan brewer. since it was facebook live, you can give it a thumbs up or heart or smile. they even took commercial breaks. in turn tv land the commercial breaks were comprised imarily of things like ivanka trump asking for campaign donations. the post-debate show really threw off the shackles of the mainstream media. >> donald trump's post-debate coverage. this is legit coverage. this is the legit coverage. the kellyanne conway. >> not too close to the m

she has a new video on breitbart it is worth noting that steve bannon used to be the boss of breitbart. and he tweeted last night, retweeted i should say, two of juanita broad rick's most recent posts. her allegations of rape against bill clinton has never been made proven in court. but were he to go there tonight, the attempt to set things right with women voters across the country could be at very, very high risk. on the other hand, trump is not one to hold a punch when he thinks he has one. shep? >> carl cameron here at washington university. carl, thank you. and facing her own set of problems as we head into tonight's showdown. wikileaks is back at it. and releasing a batch of what it claims are hacked e-mails that include details from clinton's closed door speech from wall street execs. this is after trump making vulgar comments about women. that's an understatement, but you know what i mean. hacked messages come from the e-mail account of clinton chairman and in some clinton staffers seem to flag force into wall street speeches as possibly problematic for her campaign. in one spe

and trump's campaign chairman, steve bannon, also used to lead breitbart news. late show's stephen colbert took a guess. >> i can't wait until he introduces his other programming, like the hour-long crime drama "bad hombres." or rudy giuliani and chris christie's buddy sitcom "bridge and tunnel." >> let's bring in cnn senior media reporter and politics reporter dillon byers. are you on the trump tv train? do you buy it? >> look, i think it is absolutely a possibility. if you look at what donald trump has done, he has become the folk hero for a very large contingent of people with the sort of far right populous, nationalist world view. not enough people to deliver him to the white house maybe, but certainly enough people to keep up robust media company. however, you and i both know this, starting a media company is hard. >> very. >> people on the far right who have tried to do it, glenn beck, it hasn't exactly turned out like the next iteration of fox news. it is a very hard thing to do. the other thing i would say is if you look at the far right media landscape

. >> except for breitbart news. >> -- >> busby has do you live. >> busby and breitbart. >> as an employee of the washington post i feel like you are maligning my employer. by got this greet scoop and published it because it was news worthy. and the fact we're sitting here and debating whether or not this topic should be discussed after literally the trump campaign has spent two weeks an bill clinton and he's not running for election. >> washington post -- >> -- all of the things that have to do with bill clinton. the thing about news is you report on it when it is new. this is new and that is why we're talk eighty. >> exactly right. >> quick breakout and then -- >> i want to say to my trump supporters over there. once again there is only one clinton on the ballot. and her name is not bill. >> she's -- >> no. that is the definition of sexism when you blame the woman. >> there's other women blaming her. >> when you continue to do that, blaming hillary clinton for that that is the definition of sexism. >> i'm a female, i assume i'm not sexist against women and when there is a deposition that

ones who maybe support a breitbart news, which is seven bannan.ay, rudy giuliani said to me, stevphen bannon, hes not running the campaign. donald runs his own campaign. you sawpend a lot of time with stephen bannon, what is his role in the campaign? >> the machiavelli figure with trump. backstage at the las vegas debate. as soon as trump came off the stage, the guy whose ear he was whispering in was ban non. stephen bannon, jared kushner, the project alamo that we write in our new story. >> if it's jared kushner who owns "the observer" who madeovertures that may they want to start a media business, and then stephen bannon, of breitbart news, is their jam. based on your reporter, is that where they're pivoting to? >> what's interesting about what they have done, under kushner's leadership, they built this data operation that pulled in about 12 million names, 2.5 million donors. but because they paid for it with trump's own campaign funds, he owns it after the election. regardless of whether he wins or loses, so you could see how he could take that