. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ master brewster, he warned. we have his. you shall dispersed to your homes. you shall meet no more, either secretly or in public, to warship in this horrific away. +-■you object to a priest wearig clerical garb? he will object to kneeling when receiving the holy sacrament. he will object to idolatrous care. he will object an object. >> captain, you well know we desire above all have the word of god freely preached. >> that you shall not have, master brewster. mark me well. the king of england is the supreme authority in matters of religion as well as matters of state. you shall conform to the kings religion. if you do not, we show hurry you out of the land. >> who show -- turned to him the other also. >> william? >> yes? >> we are ready. >> we will leave this as if it were still here. >> as though we do not have to leave our homes? >> nay, to live free in a free land. >> live? but how? >> as we lived here. trades people, artisans, farmers. as with all, so shall we. come, it is time. >> and so began our pilgrimag

what are they, master brewster?s not the bible tell us that jacob labored twice seven years for the hand of rachel? >> we would of course have to discuss this with our people. >> naturally. and i wouldn't mind. mind you, i am not at all sure we can do this. it's a risk. we shall be risking a great deal of money. >> very true, master weston. and we should be risking our lives and the lives of our children. master weston's conditions were hard, but, at length, an agreement was reached. and our people left holland forever and embarked for southampton, england. >> there you are. >> thank you. >> well, sir? >> i am the reverend brewster. >> captain miles. >> master bradford, master carr. >> i'm at your service, gentlemen. though i doubt what service i can be to you. >> we have doubts, too. >> as well you may. tinkers, weavers, preachers, carpenters going to a desolate widell in the case, to a land of wild beasts and wilder savages. do you know where you're leading yourselves? >> we know only where the lord is leading us,

brewster family. the idea is to help our guests walk into an accurate recreation of the past and to feel they've been physically transported and mentally transported as well. >> my name is elizabeth how land. i've been here now for seven years. my family and i decided -- i suppose more so my parents decided we were going to come to the new world. 1620 or so. a ship called "mayflower" that brought us here. i feel at 13 years it was more so their decision than mine. it was two months we were at sea. seven months i lived aboard the ship because there were no houses built when we arrived here so it was men that would get off during the day, they would build houses and get back on a ship at night. so, it was tedious. and being that i was 13, i was caring for younger children but also caring for my parents. i was seasick for the journey. as we were in the harbor, people started getting sick with coughs and colds, and took care of them as well as best i could. you sing songs, pray a lot, try to sleep. but th

william brewster, bradford and get them to explain their stories. william brewster, bradford, a woman who gave birth during the transit. also john hoglund was a servant of the governor across -- on board the ship and he has amazing stories. he fell overboard during the 66 day crossing of the atlantic, but managed miraculously to grab a robe and pulled himself back on board. -- grab a rope and pulled himself back on board. if he had not done that, george w bush and george bush would never have existed because they are descendents of john howland. the relatives and descendents, if we can make avatars tell their story, how fantastic that would be? so we are going into the stern of the ship. that structure was designed to pull in wires and rope and secure secure the ship and various pieces of cargo coming onto the ship. the main deck here is where you have the steerage office. that is called a capstan. you can see the stick on the left. that was the tiller, a very small stick that controlled the rudder, the steerage of the ship. then you have the captai

shaquille brewster is in the growing and peaceful crowd outside the courtroom. shaq, what's it like out there? >> reporter: that's right. you said a growing and peaceful crowd, and that's what we're seeing right now. it seems like several hundreds of people are out here. off in the distance, and i believe you have that camera shot, you have the group of people who are -- had the bullhorn, who are talking, who are rallying, the common chants that you hear for any protest like this. but you look around and you get a sense of the crowd that has grown fairly quickly. you see people on bikes. you see a vendor down the hill there that came out fairly quickly. it just gives you an idea, this is something that people were ready for. people were watching and waiting. they knew this verdict was happening, and especially when we got to the closing arguments yesterday. this is something that they said they're focused on, that they have been passionate about. this is something that we saw protests back after george floyd was originally killed, something that they were focuse

shaquille brewster, paul butler, kristen gibbons. i am going to ask all of you to stick with us for more analysis as we follow what happens this afternoon. >>> up next. we are live at the white house for a reaction to the chauvin trial. and plans for a response to the verdict, once it is announced. you're watching msnbc. don't go anywhere. ss growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ back in black ♪ ♪ i hit the sack ♪ ♪ i've been too long... ♪ applebee's irresist-a-bowls are back. dig in for just $8.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. introducing fidelity income planning. we look at how much you've saved, how much you'll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when you're not working. a plan that gives you the chance to grow your savings an

shaq brewster mentioned that's very uncommon. i would be interested to know why you thought perhaps he went ahead and did that. was it to calm tensions, and what role does he have in this investigation compared to that state agency that obviously did not show up at this press conference today because the normal protocol here wasn't followed. >> right. good questions, kasie. the brooklyn control center police department is not conducting the investigation. it appears to be the bureau of apprehension, the same one that investigated officer chauvin. that makes sense. you wouldn't have the department where that officer worked who fired her weapon and killed mr. wright conduct the investigation. you would hand it off to another investigating agency. not surprising to me he didn't have all the answers, not surprising to me he didn't have all the answers because we're so early. to shaq's point and reverend sharpton's point, transparency is a good thing, but they didn't seem -- i'm referring now to the release of the body-worn camera foo

from the william brewster family. the idea is to help our guests walk into an accurate recreation of the past and to feel that they have been physically transported and mentally transported as well. >> my name is elizabeth collins, i've been here now for 70 years. my family and i decided that we were going to come to the new world and that was in 1620 or so. the ship called mayflower that brought us here. it was more so their decision than mine, since i was 13 years old. by two months that we were out to sea and probably something like seven months in total that i lived aboard the ship because there are no houses built when we arrived here, so it was the men that would get off during the day and build the houses and they get back on to the ship at night. and so, it was tedious. and being that i was 13, i was caring for younger children but also caring for my parents that were seasick for the journey and as we were in the harbor, people started getting sick with coughs and colds. so i care to them as well as best i cou

. >> pete williams is also in dc welcome shaquille brewster outside of the correctional facility as we're getting a first look at his mug shot this morning. really at the top of the order can you explain what this might be about and what a pattern like this means. >> they have done about 40 of these over the years. they come in, sometimes not so cooperatively, and they look at a couple of issues. how do they handle use of force issues and how do they treat minorities, and the attorney general formally rescinded what was signed by jeff sessions that vastly sent these back. but obviously under democratic administrations, and even some republican administrations the justice department had a different notion of them. so this is the minneapolis police department. it will go on. and we expect to hear from the attorney general for about five minutes about this, hallie. >> and i think we're going to hear from him in just about 90 seconds or so. live in minneapolis, you're there, you're in washington, you're waking up to the same black -- >> we got the word that this verdict was about to be heard,

i want to bring in shaquille brewster. we also have with us retired captain pruitt and melanie price. shaq, we'll start with you. bring us up to speed on what we just heard. >> you continue to hear the prosecution bring out their witnesses and hear these witnesses testify. i think one thing that you heard in that last testimony right there, this was a lead investigator. the person in charge of the chain of custody of that car. you heard some of the back and forth, especially in the redirect and then when eric nelson came back up to recross examine the witness. the defense, back in january, the attorneys of the four officers, went back to that squad car and found some pills essentially, chewed-up pills that they then took to the lab and realized it was a controlled substance. and you heard eric nelson cleaning it up and just removing any doubt that the defense attorneys happened to plant those pills there. and that's what that language was there. essentially, the investigators missed it on their first attempt to process the

william brewster, bradford, the lady who gave birth to oceanus, the one child who was born during the actual transit. and also john harrigan. he was actually a servant of a governor who was on board the ship. he fell overboard during the 66 days crossing the atlantic, but managed, miraculously, to grab a rope and put himself back on board. if he hadn't done that, then george w. bush and george bush would never have existed because they're descendants of harrigan. some of these guys, if we could make these avatars tell their story, how fantastic that would be. so there we're going into the stern of the ship. that's the -- that particular structure there, which is designed to really be able to pull in wires and ropes and to be able to secure the ship and secure various pieces of cobble coming onto the ship, this is the main deck. that's called a capstan. if you go to what would be the tiny captain's cabin, on the left you can see the stake on the left. that was a very small -- relatively small stake that controlled the rudder. that controlled the steerage of the ship, then you have the

shaquille brewster has been covering the story for us and i'm joined by two legal analysts. shaq, let me -- i guess the thing that was so striking is how long the defense decided to cross examine this prosecution expert. >> that's right, chuck. definitely seemed like one of the more extensive cross-examinations that we've heard from eric nelson as part of this process. let's just go to the point of why the prosecution brought up this witness. this is one of the first expert witnesses that we heard from. he's not from the minneapolis police department. instead, he reviews force of policies. he works for the los angeles police department and was paid to come on and provide his expert testimony. and the key thing that the prosecution wanted to get out of him is when he said that the use of force that he saw derek chauvin and the other three former minneapolis police department officers using was that it was excessive. that based on the objectability or -- that it was objectively not the right use of force. the term he used was it was not objectively reasonable. that is the lega

shaq, shaquille brewster. give us a sense of how people are feeling, relief, shock, what is it people are expressing, i know you're blocks from the courthouse. >> we're blocks away from the courthouse. you can see the barbed wire in the downtown area, still in this area. this is a march turned rally. the rally portion just wrapped up. they are now marching again, and really it depends on who you're talking to. some people are relieved. they know and they were holding their breath. they just were skeptical the entire time. they heard and saw that case that craig was talking about, what they considered to be a strong case, witness after witness, bystander after bystander, come and take the stand. they saw and heard the use of force experts, the police officers, come up and take the stand but they said they would not let themselves believe that it was possible for a jury of 12 to come to that unanimous decision. so there's that shock there. there's also frustration still at what is yet to come. what they consider

your thoughts on this moment in the context of what the young woman our college shaquille brewster andis be a beginning of change, or does it mark we are begin to go change? >> i hope it's the beginning of change. what we sauce from chauvin's team is a repeat of -- to acquit white officers of the beating or killing of people of color, and so what you saw in this case was the defense's attempt to paint a group of maybe seven or eight people, including minor children, as a scary mob, presumably because they were in the inner city, they attempted to paint mr. floyd as a scary black man who apparently was going to come back from handcuffs, a prone position, and no pulse, and no breath to attack derek chauvin and rampage the city. they painted the pros an unduly prejudicial. if those arguments have failed in this case, it will be a sign to defense counsel that they need to try something other than blaming the victim, blaming the community, and using old racial stereotypes to actually talk about the evidence in these kinds of trials rather than relying on stereotypes. i think that will be a

joining me now is shaq brewster in minneapolis, civil rights attorney david henderson, chair of princeton's department african studies. welcome all. shaq, lapd officer jody steiger. what does the pool report tell you about how the jury is attending to his testimony on cross-exam today? >> this was one of the first expert witnesses not from the minneapolis police department. we had several days of minneapolis police officers coming and testifying. according to the full reports, two reporters in the courtroom, according to notes from them, it seems the jury is more attentive today. that they are going in and out of taking notes especially when they heard conclusions that derek chauvin used excessive force. yesterday the testimony seemed to drag on that you have one jor nodding off and several other jurors were looking around the room and becoming fidgety. one note that the reporter made was when we heard eric nelson play that sound of george floyd being restrained. posed in a question was i ate too many drugs. you saw jurors taking notes. the officer said that's not necessarily what he heard

virtual reality avatar of christopher jones the captain get them to explain their stories william brewster bradford. yeah, the lady who gave birth to oceanus the child the one child that was born during during the during the actual transit it also john howland john howland is something somebody i would like to he was actually a servant of a governor who was on boardmanship and he's got a very interesting story and that he fell overboard. during the 66 days crossing the atlantic but managed miraculously to grab a rope and put himself back on board. if he hadn't done that then george w bush and george bush would never have existed because they were descendants from john highland. it's absolutely incredible some of these guys and some of the the relatives and then the descendants day. they've got some if we could make these avatars tell their story. how fantastic that would be so we can so there we have going here. we're going into the the the stern of the ship. that's the that particular structure there, which is designed to really be able to pull in wires and ropes and to be able to so secu

shaquille brewster is back with me.and you have what we call pool notes from inside the courtroom there, folks who are able to watch and listen closely to these interactions between the lawyers and the witnesses and the jurors and the lawyers. they provide a great deal of context and color. what do the notes tell us? >> reporter: that's right, craig. it's a quick note that we got from one of the reporters, one of the two who was in the room during that testimony. again, i think this is something that we were saying before about how we saw courteney making eye contact. the pool reporter said all of the jurors had their eyes on her as she was testifying. this pool reporter notes there was one of the jurors, a black man, had a furrowed brow. it's hard to tell with the masks. it seems like he might be emotional. we know that over the course of the testimony, we have seen the jurors take notes. they have been taking extensive notes. sometimes referring back to notes and adding notes as the testimony would be completed. i thi

let me bring back in shaq brewster.paul butler, and rachael polus is joining us, too. one issue we talked about at the top of the show has been settled and that is whether or not this expert on use of force can testify. now the discussion involves someone named maurice hall who was with george floyd before his death. >> sure, let's start with what we were talking about earlier in terms of the expert that the prosecution is trying to call. the judge said he will allow testimony from that expert in a limited form. he will allow that expert, excuse me, to testify about the crowd, for example. that is an argument you have been hearing from the defense. he addressed the specifics on the crowd. we also know the judge denied testimony on what is called auditory paradilia. it is the idea that you can hear things that you're prompted to hear. this goes back to what we heard last week when the defense asked one of the witnesses if he heard george floyd say "i ate too many drugs" and the prosecution in the redirection got the witn

i am joined by shaq brewster, david henderson and eugene robinson. welcome. we have been covering the police testimony. it has been critical. the sergeant and lieutenant, most senior officer of the department have taken us through george floyd's death. tell us how this day played out. >> reporter: the testimony started to pick up before the recess. as they got into the talk of force and training. we just got notes from reporters inside the room. remember, two reporters allowed in the courtroom. the reporter notes that the line of questioning with lieutenant zimmerman about handcuffs, use of force got jurors to pay more attention with notes. we know jurors have become fidgety, but when they got on the detail of use of force. the sound you just heard, it seems that many of them started picking up their pens and papers and taking notes. that's a pattern throughout the trial. these jurors have been taking notes, sometimes flipping back to previous pages and adding to their previous notes. andrea, you are seeing the development of the prosecution and laying out th

shaquille brewster has been covering the trial. also joining me is former federal prosecutor glen kerschner and dr. william marone, a forensic toxicologist and dr. gupta. shaq, let me start with you. i go back to yesterday and so far today, it is pretty clear the prosecution is trying to set up the medical examiner's testimony in a specific way. they are very concerned about it being framed in isolation. >> reporter: that's right, chuck. it's almost like they are saying, before you hear that, we want you to hear from these experts. we are hearing from dr. thomas. we heard from the pumonologist yesterday. we will hear from a cardiologist before we get to hear from the medical examiner. they are trying to paint this picture of before you listen and before you see the numbers, before you see the detail from the medical examiner, listen to our experts so you can frame how you listen to what we expect to hear later. what we heard from dr. thomas, i think you saw it was what exactly the prosecution has been trying to get out of these exp

. >> shaquille brewster has been following the trial for us in minneapolis. i'm also joined by former prosecutor and civil rights defending david henderson, and morgan chesky is reporting for us from brooklyn center. in fact, let me start with morgan in brooklyn center before we get to what we have seen this morning in the trial. morgan, the arrest happened. give us a little detail. was this -- did officers go to potter's house and arrest her? did she turn herself in? what details do we have? >> yeah, chuck, from what we understand, we know though charges were made official around 11:00 local time here in brooklyn center. at which point a group of officers did go to potter's home and take that 26-year veteran of the department here in brooklyn center into custody. the charge, second degree manslaughter. at this point in time, we understand she's likely being processed. we do anticipate to hear more from investigators later today from officials as well. and in addition to that, also the family of daunte wright, we know that benjamin crump, the attorney represe

our correspondent shaquille brewster encountered courtney ross, girlfriend of the late george floyd, and captured her comments after the verdict. >> can you tell me, what did you think when you first heard that verdict? >> i'm just extremely thankful that george's life is going to bring change now. i knew the verdict was going to be guilty. i knew it. >> so many people said it was your testimony that was so key to humanizing george floyd, to help the jury connect with george floyd. hearing that guilty verdict, what do you think of your influence on this? >> you know, it's easy to talk about floyd. i could talk about him all day. so my testimony was just true to us, you know. and like floyd said when he first met me, the truth is here. the truth is here and now justice is here and we gonna move on. >> when you look at the other families that are also suffering, what happens from here? what do you think this verdict says about what -- how police should be held accountable? >> oh. well, there is going to be change in the future. and we still have a lot of reparations to make from the pa

unfortunately algiers tenure at brewster was brief. any departed in 1866 at the age of 35, he left under a cloud too where he was accused of quote unnatural familiarity with boys and he resigned from the church. to the best of my and other researchers knowledge and we spend a lot of time looking into this there were absolutely no other accusations of this sort made throughout alger's life. he left the church and he also left the area. he moved to new york city where he now began to write solely for young people abandoning the adult market for the more lucrative juvenile field as alger said in a letter years later. the decision was made when for an article for the north american review on which i had expended considerable labor. i was paid at the rate of a dollar per printed page. from that time on i leased my pen to the boys and the world has been spared much poor poetry and ambitious prose. as soon after this leasing of his pen in early 1867 he scored his first success his first juvenile story about the young street boys of new york e

watching along with us nbc news correspondent shaquelle brewster and claire mccaskill and eric dyson author of "long time coming" we hope to talk about that but we are in a five-minute break here and i wonder if you could put your former prosecutor hat on and tell us where we are in this point of the closing arguments. >> watching this reminds me of what it felt to sit at the table and listen to defense lawyers make their close and you just being so anxious to stand back up and rebut and that's what the prosecutor's going to do now. the prosecutor's going to walk this jury back through the law and the evidence. i got to tell you from my perspective this defense attorney, i don't think he did his client a lot of favors. he rambled and went on and on and on and on rather than just focusing on his most powerful arguments, briefly and strongly. it is almost like he kept trying to throw stuff up against the wall to see if anything would stick and jurors sense that. he only has to get one jury to make it be a hung jury with no result but i didn't think he was particularly effective because

joining me is nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster live in minneapolis. attorney and former prosecutor david henderson. and the director of reshaping prosecution at the vera institute of justice, jami haud. welcome to the three of you. shaq, there have been reports that a member of the jury during today's proceedings fell asleep and that other jurors appear to be disinterested, perhaps distracted. give us a sense of what's happening in the courtroom today. >> yeah, geoff, this comes from our pool reporters. the two reporters who are inside the courtroom. remember, we're limited because of social distancing and the court's rules there. based on a pool report we got earlier today, we got a sense that some of the jurors have been paying attention and taking lots of notes but there was one juror in particular who the pool report says in the back row appeared to be sleeping. the other jurors seemed very attentive watching nelson and the lieutenant as they were going through and testifying. but when a graphic was shown on the screen about ground control and was

shaquille brewster getting us started. shaq, thank you. >>> let me go over to ali velshi. ali, you were on the ground during the protests right after the death of george floyd. what are you seeing now? do you see them preparing in ways that show they may have learned something from what happened last summer? >> yes, both police and protesters are doing that. give you an example of national guard posted on the downtown corner at fifth street near nicollette mall. this is usually a busy downtown area. it's been less busy because of the coronavirus. but you can see the boarding up of places. there are no police on leave now. everybody is called in. when you see police going down the street, you usually see them in 2w0 cars with a national guard officer. where you see protesters on the street, you're not seeing police interaction with them. where there's interaction with the courthouse, for instance, or brooklyn center, about ten miles north of here where daunte wright was shot, there are two lines of fencing in front of the police station. so there's no interaction between po

shaq brewster, i believe, has made his way to a camera location. shaq? there, nicole. you know, few interesting things that we heard there and this testimony, as you mentioned, it's in a side bar right now so they're conferring with the judge right now but you heard the supervisor ask about the body camera and the fact that it was on, is your body camera on? that was captured a little bit in it, and then we saw some new body camera video. this is some new video we're seeing from the officers at the actual hospital as george floyd was being worked on, and i believe the judge -- the courtroom is back in session, so i'll let you listen there. >> shift sergeant in conducting force reviews. when you conduct a force review, you typically visit the scene, is that right? >> yes. >> interview witnesses, correct? >> yes. >> gather all the information, body-worn cameras, correct? >> yes. >> and review that footage, correct? >> yes. >> and make a preliminary determination as to whether or not it would be necessary to forward this for a review by internal affairs, is

. >> joining us from minneapolis is nbc political reporter shaquille brewster who has been on the groundg every twist and turn in this trial. shaq, thank you so much for being up with us early. i know you've had an incredibly long last 48 hours and your work has been just outstanding. it will be two months until chauvin is sentenced here. what will happen during that time frame? how will the sentencing impact this? take us a little bit to the streets of minneapolis. how were people feeling yesterday as this happened? >> well, we know that in a matter of weeks, judge cahill will come back and determine whether or not there were aggravating factors in george floyd's murder. we know prosecutors previously said there were aggravating factors and mentioning that floyd was in a particularly vulnerable position and legal experts think that could double the amount of time that derek chauvin faces in prison. something we will see in a matter of weeks. both sides will put file briefing. derek chauvin waived his right for that part to be determined by a jury. you mentioned the excitement and relief

guest: she went to work for senator brewster, daniel brewster, a one term senator from maryland who hired two people for his office when it opened up. he hired her as a receptionist, and a young man named steny hoyer. he later became a legislative aide. the two people who now lead the democratic party in the house first met fresh out of college and this junior senator's office. host: how would you characterize the relationship between the two of them, as long as it is? guest: there are few stories in washington that excite more interest than the relationship between nancy pelosi and steny hoyer because for many years they were great rivals. steny hoyer thought he was on track to become the whip. when nancy pelosi announced she was going to run for that office, this was before there is even an opening for whips. ended up running a campaign that lasted for three years, cost millions in campaign contributions. they would give out campaign cash to try to get votes. it became pretty bitter. then she won. since then she has always been one level above steny hoyer. that is not really a recipe fo

shaq brewster on the ground for us there in minneapolis. once again we'll be checking in with you a great deal. >>> right now i want to turn to a cousin of george floyd and also the president of the george floyd foundation. thank you so much for your time this morning. first of all, how are you doing? how is the family doing right now? >> i think we're doing pretty good all things considered. we're just waiting like everyone else to get the jury's verdict. for the last year we've been waiting for this moment and it's a matter of them letting us know what they decided at this point. >> the courtroom had a lot of restrictions because of the pandemic. only one family member could sit in the trial at a time, and you sat in at least one day i know. what was that experience like for you? >> it was -- i don't know if i could find one word to really describe it. i certainly felt privileged to be able to be involved in the process. it gave me a different perspective on everything. it actually was one of the best days since this whole process started

shaquille brewster joins me from minneapolis. shaq, you're doing great reporting out there. what's it like on the streets of minneapolis right now? >> reporter: chris, i'll tell you -- i can't tell you, i should say, how many people have told me before this verdict before today how scared they were about this moment, how anxious about this moment. and then today we heard the words, guilty, guilty, guilty: and that's something that has been recreated. you see a group rallying behind me in the distance. this is the group that marched throughout the streets of downtown minneapolis throughout. you see car after car behind joining this march. you see people on the top of their roofs waving their flags, still waving their flags in what is a celebration. what people have said, they've been saying that, look, it's not just about george floyd. yes, that is why they are out here right now. but it's about so many others, the other people who ten minutes away from here, for example, have been killed by police. that is what they want their focus to be. so, they said, yes, we will celebra

. >> i want to go shaquille brewster outside the courthouse in minnesota. he has been watching every second of the testimony with us. shaq, we also this morning hear a detailed argument about some test results related to carbon monoxide. walk us through what just happened and what the judge decided. >> reporter: this was something that we heard yesterday from dr. fowler. it was introduced by dr. fowler, who speculated that one of the reasons why george floyd died was potential carbon monoxide poisoning. saying, as he was being pinned down next to the police vehicle, that some of the exhaust there could have gotten into his bloodstream. one thing you heard dr. fowler say is that while he didn't know if the car was on -- that came up during the cross-examination -- he did say that the levels of carbon mon monoxide could be tested. he was doing what he is supposed to as a defense witness. he was introduced doubt into what the jurors have seen based on the testimony from those expert witnesses that the prosecution laid out over the past two weeks. the prosecuti

joining me, nbc news shaquille brewster in minneapolis and radio public reporter grant williams. great to have you both with us this hour. shaq, let's begin with you. what have we learned about the scope of the doj investigation and how have officials there, minneapolis pd and others responded to it? >> reporter: we know this investigation will look into the patterns and practices of the minneapolis police department, looking to see if there's patterns of discriminatory policing, to see if there's patterns of excessive use of force. we actually, just in the past couple of minutes, got a statement from the minneapolis police department responding to this doj inquiry. we heard from the police chief in that statement who says he welcomes this investigation. he says that he and the department will cooperate fully. he had a quote there where he said i look forward to sharing the great work done by our teams, day in and day out. but the department of justice and getting their feedback on how we can serve our communities even better. that's police chief arradando who testified in the tr

shaq brewster, outside, you've been reading the pool report. how are the jurors reacting so far to the prosecution closing argument? >> well, andrea, it sounds very similar throughout the trial, they've been engaged, leaning in, taking notes. as steve schleicher is making closing arguments, at the end, that the bystanders didn't have the power to intervene, but you as members of the jury do have the power. all of the jurors had their eyes fixed on schleicher as he said they have the power. you heard schleicher of conversations they had during the jury selection process, that process that took about three weeks and we learned from those jurors as they were the ones under oath answering questions from both attorneys. many of them said that they had favorable views of blue lives matter after being asked about that. the police make them feel safe, that they're comfortable with them. you've heard him reference that. this is not a case about policing. this is not the case of minnesota versus the police. this is, instead, the state of minnesota agains

with us right now, shaquille brewster, he's outside of daunte wright's funeral. we'll keep an eye on that procession as the dignitaries and family members make their way out of it, taking daunte to his final resting place in lakewood, cemetery. also with us, brian dunn. and host of msnbc's "the cross connection" tiffany cross. shaq, i'll begin with you for your initial thoughts on the proceedings that we just saw there that, as i mentioned, very emotional and heart-felt tribute to the life of daunte wright and what happens now. >> very, very emotional service there. you can just tell from those live pictures as we continue to watch them, as we see the family start to file out of the church there. you saw the emotion there. you saw the tears. you saw the hugs, but you also saw the passion to make this something more than just the death of daunte wright, as heartbreaking as that is. you heard so many speakers, speaker after speaker come up and talk about the george floyd justice in policing act. you saw george floyd's family in the church. you saw the family of osc

i want to start with nbc's shaquille brewster, who's been in minneapolis since this trial began. also with us former prosecutor gwen kirschner. shaq, how are things supposed to start out? >> there are a few things picking up. we will have the closing arguments, and we will hear from both sides. the prosecution and eric nelson for the defense and a rebuttal from jerry blackwell. they will make that emotional case. we can expect to hear the video and the timeline and defense's arguments that they believe george floyd died from medical conditions and a drug overdose. but in addition to the closing arguments, we're also going to hear those jury instructions. this is key, stephanie. most of this took place, the arguments between the defense and prosecution and judge, this took place behind closed doors. there was some arguing about this in open court. but these instructions are what the law is and how jurors should apply the law when they begin their deliberations. as you mentioned, deliberations can start by this afternoon. the jury will be sequestered. 12 jurors deliberating after 1

. >> shaquille brewster, as you know, has been covering this story inside and out for weeks. he's outside the courtroom in minneapolis now. shaq, yesterday was intense. for those of us just watching at home, prosecutors showed pictures of george floyd inside that ambulance. what was the reaction like inside the courtroom? >> well, the jury saw a very graphic picture and video of the paramedics and their efforts to resuscitate george floyd in that ambulance on the day that he died. there are reactions and reports from inside the courtroom that sometimes jurors put their hand over their face, that there were several furled brows, that there were signals they were connecting. at one point jurors stopped taking notes and all just focused squarely on the video. you're getting an idea the jury is really paying attention to what is being told inside that courtroom. and yesterday we heard the testimony from the paramedics who arrived on the scheme. they say when they pulled up, officers were still restraining george floyd. they went over and tried to take his pulse but derek chauvin'

america got it right for once. >> shaquille brewster back with us.ining the conversation, charles coleman civil rights attorney and former prosecutor and you know on a day like this she would be here, brittany cunningham, former member of president obama's policing task force. brittany, we heard from former president obama, he wrote in a statement this. we know that true justice is about much more than a single verdict in a single trial. president biden said this should be the beginning, not the end, but here's the thing. we have seen leaders say this many, many times. do you have any reason to believe that this time is different? >> unfortunately, i don't, stephanie, and i should start by saying that the only modicum of relief that i feel goes directly to george floyd's family, that the bit of accountability that the system allows them is the very least they should have had, guilty is the obvious choice here and i'm prayerful that they get a piece of closure because at the very least they deserve that, and yet and still, you heard chris, the family

shaquille brewster, we are lucky you're not nodding off. that's what's happening. now i want to dig into what it all means. joining us the director of reshaping prosecution at the shira institute. we heard the witness -- and this one i need to you help me understand -- change his answer when asked something by the defense and then again the prosecution. i'm talking about the words heard in one specific clip of body cam video of george floyd. what do you make of that? how rare is it? >> it's not that rare, especially when you think about body cam footage. in my experience, i have spent plenty of hours, and what eventually showed in court was such a small amount up for review and we know it's not clear. the same clip was shown before and the witness said couldn't make out what was being said. it's not uncommon that you might have to listen to something a few times, you might have to watch it in fuller context to really understand. i also think it shows that the defense were doing their job, right? they're going to try with cross-examination to get in the points they

shaquille brewster joins me from outside the shiloh temple international ministries in minneapolis, where the funeral will take place. shaq, just for the community in and around the twin cities, this has got to be emotionally -- it's always hard, if it can somehow be harder now, it must be. >> that's exactly right, chuck the range of emotions minneapolis had to go through just in this week. the mood is likely going to be somber. we already saw the family lining up on the opposite side of the building. we're waiting for them to file in for the viewing. and we saw members of the family come in and look and pay their last respects to daunte wright at the open casket. of course, the casket will be closed today for the final time. already at this funeral service, memorial service, we've seen the governor of the state of minnesota. we've seen bong of minnesota's senators here. i thought congresswoman elin omar in the pictures there. we also saw keith ellison, the attorney general. i think what underscores the experience and the pain this community is dealing with is actually george floyd's fami

joyce vance, shaquille brewster, thank you both.ice opening statements are done and questioning is happening so let's listen in. >> it certainly would have helped us that day to enhance our ability to protect the capitol. >> you said why the order was given not to use less lethal weapons but are you able to identify who gave that order? >> yes, ma'am. the word we have, it was an assistant deputy chief. >> all right. mr. davis, you are now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chairwoman. and great questions. thank you for your responses to those from chairperson lofgren, mr. bolton. and thank you for being here. thank you for the briefings that you hung in there to give to me and to our members. there's nothing more bipartisan than getting to the bottom of how we prevent another attack that we saw on january 6th. you mentioned in your report that the department can improve recruitment in hiring and retention of officers. what steps do we need to take within the capitol police to do that. >> thank you, sir. one of the thin

shaquille brewster, shaq, you've been doing a great job. thank you for being here this evening. >> thank you. >>> joining me now is msnbc legal contributor katie phang and jason johnson. so katie, i think for every lawyer and former and current prosecutor, today was a tense day to watch the prosecution have to watch a pretty narrow tight rope, because there was a mistrial floated by the judge. can you just walk us through what happened today, and what prosecutor blackwell had to pull off with dr. tobin? >> yeah. so most of the legal drama, joy, today happened behind the scenes and outside the presence of the jury. there was a late disclosed lab report that dr. andrew baker, the hennepin county medical examiner who conducted the only autopsy of george floyd. within that late produced lab result was actual information about carbon monoxide, which we had heard about from dr. fowler for the very first time when he took the stand on behalf of the defense yesterday. but the reason why it created drama was the judge said that this late disclosure

shaquille brewster on duty outside the courthouse and also with former u.s. attorney joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and former fbi official and law professor and former nypd detective. the judge denying the request to sequester the jury in light of the shooting and the incident in the minneapolis suburbs. plus the cardiologist has yet to be cross examined, but tell us also about john rich's expert testimony. >> i'll start with that news this morning. the motion from the defense attorney toy is sequester the jury. the judge denying that motion. that's a motion that you have heard eric nelson and the defense team make repeatedly throughout this trial when they initially asked for the trial to be delayed and the judge saying that he understands that a jury may have heard this, but their job is to ignore outside influences, ignore the media and to make their decision based on what happens in the courtroom, but in his announcement we did get a sense of the timing of this trial. he said that we can be hearing closing arguments for this case beginning as early as

. >> nbc's ch shaquille brewster minneapolis with some of the takeaways from illnesses >>. >> reporter: as the prosecution continues to lay out its case against derek chauvin. yesterday we heard from the three officials who lead different elements of the training one over use of force. the other over medical assistance and medical training for officers and the other four crisis intervention, and how officers are to respond during different situations each of them talked about their training experience and what they tell new recruits and officers who come back for that regular annual training. it's very clear the prosecution is trying to lay out the fact that they believe derek chauvin did not follow that training when he was dealing with george floyd last year. with the size of the crowd that was a threat and a does extraction to the officers that is the reason why we saw derek chauvin possibly deviate from some of that training. but it's one of the things we're continuing to watch. the prosecution making the case it's not the amount of time the knee was on the neck >> our thanks to sh

with the jury deliberating on monday, the public has already rendered their verdict our shaq brewster is outside the courthouse. >> reporter: court is out of session today, but we do know attorneys from both sides on the defense and prosecution will spend the day working with the judge to set those specific jury str st instructions that's because on monday we can expect to hear closing arguments begin, both sides will present their cases to the jury, and then the jury instructions will be announced, and then it will be in the hands of the jury. the judge warning the members of the jury to pack a bag, to hope for short but prepare for the long as they go through their deliberations. all of this comes after a very busy day in court yesterday. we heard from ex-officer derek chauvin for the first time he wasn't testifying instead he was invoking his fifth amendment protection saying he would not take the stand in his trial we also saw dr. martin tobin come wak to the stand to rebut some claims made by the defense during their testimony all of that happening yesterday as we look ahead to m