joining us also, anchor of "reliable sources" brian stelter. while the doctor's objective was to paint this relatively, you know, rosy, positive view of how the president is doing, a new problem has just arisen. this timeline.

his best-selling book "hoax: is out now please welcome to the show, brian stelter.t to not be doing this in front of a book shelf that has your new book. i tip my cap >> i don't have any books left, seth they're too popular. >> seth: oh, wow nice one very nice play on that one so, you know, this is a book one of the people you cover in the book, among many, is chris wallace, the moderator of last night's debate, who went into it saying that he wanted to be invisible that does not strike me as the case here, as we're coming up on a day later. how do you think he performed last night in -- obviously to give him some credit -- a very chaotic night? >> yeah, i don't know. would you ever want to moderate a debate with donald trump i don't think i would ever want to do it it's a very, very difficult mission. so, you've got to have some sympathy for chris wallace but, you know, he gave an interview to "the new york times" today where he said he never dreamt that it would go off the rails this way he never dreamt that trump's strategy would be to just interrupt constantly a

taylor schchilling authoror of "hoax,x," cnn anchcd correspondent, brian stelterer an all-new, "closer burdrdeaux and now, seth meyers >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night. how is everybody doing tonight all right. good good good let's get to the news. well, last night was the first -- >> wrong last night was - >> fake news >> seth: last -- >> excuse me excuse me. >> seth: just forget it. that's right the first presidential debate was held last night in cleveland, ohio. although, it wasn't really a debate it certainly wasn't presidential and it wasn't held so much, as it happened to us. i guess the only accurate part of that sentence was cleveland, ohio. while being repeatedly interrupted by president trump during last night's debate, former vice president joe biden said to trump, quote, will you shut up, man and in fairness, it was the only question trump actually answered during the section of last night's debate on the economy, president trump criticized former vice president joe biden's trade record, and said, quote, china ate your lunch though, i'm sure that

. >> i want to bring in brian stelter. the news we have been getting, this was a red alert for the administration when it comes to what could happen and now i think our worse fears and i am sure the president and the first lady have been realized. >> don, i said hours ago this was a code red moment for the u.s. moment before we had these diagnoses. knowing that the president is sick and the pandemic is affecting personnel at the white house. this is the most dangerous moment that the u.s. government has ever faced. the president is suffering from a deadly virus, it is something that we should be watching on an episode of "homeland." the president of the united states suffering from a deadly virus. he's not able to fully perform his duties as commander-in-chief. based on the number of personnel that he comes into contact with every single day without wearing a mask, it is logical that others senior personnel within the national security apparatus could be infected by this virus. the u.s. government is incredibly vulnerable

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let's bring back in -- sanjay's going to stay with us -- we're bringing back in brian stelter and carl bernstein. brian, do you believe, because we waited for so long, right, to hear about the test, did they sa sit on this? what happened? >> let's be honest, don. upon the air midnight, 12:30 a.m., there was certainly a reasonable suspicion that the president had tested positive. and that the reason the white house didn't announce a result right away is because they knew he was testing positive, and they were providing notifications to people like mitch mcconnell and other leaders of the government. i think that's a fair assumption to make, at this late hour. we know the white house has these 15-minute rapid tests, and it was concerning, by 11:00 p.m. and midnight, that we did not have an answer from the white house. and that gets to sanjay's point about the need for transparency. white house aides, who feel pressure to lie on behalf of the president, they should feel more pressure, now, from all of us in the public, to tell the public the truth in the coming days and weeks. you know, b

applause ] >> joining us now is cnn cleve media correspondent and anchor of "reliable sources" brian stelter some of the biggest last lines of the night were sort of anchored in reality. some of the ash suffered tis that president trump has said about rounding the corner. he's been saying that for a month now and we're still breaking numbers when it comes to new covid infections. >> right. coronavirus is a very hard topic to laugh about. it's a harvard topic for comedians to joke about, but i think "saturday night live" got to something really serious, very real about the president's response to the virus with this moment from alex baldwin saying that he's bored of the virus. watch. >> coronavirus, so boring, right, i mean, but we're doing terrific. we're roung the corner. in fact, we've rounded so many corners we've gone all the way around the block and we're back at where we started in march. >> come on, man. >> a sad but true statement there by baldwin playing trump. >> so i want to ask you about actor brad pitt because we know he narrated this ad for joe biden's campaign last night. i wa

brian stelter is the anchor of cnn's "reliable sources." just give us the reporting and context.ou call this a classic example of the right-swing machine. >> this is steve bannon hasn'ting a tip over, and rudy giuliani handing over the documents, and creating this appearance of a scandal. hunter biden has acknowledged he had poor judgment in working with foreign enterprise when is he father was vice president. this was all litigated last year during the impeachment saga, but the right-wing media wants it back in the news. they view it as a closing argument for the trump campaign. trump is tweeting a storm, but the real story is the maneuvering by rudy to try to stir up a scandal. and i have confirmed that some "new york post" writers, were so wary of the story, they saw how sketchy it was they didn't want anything to do it, they didn't want their bylines. normally we want to make sure we want to get credit for it, but in this case, no, "new york post" reporters ranted the opposite. they could sense this was a very sketchy, dubious story. >> i want to know, the president again att

. >> let's bring in cnn brian stelter. brian, how close were the numbers? >> i think most people expected president trump to prevail in this ratings face-off. instead it was joe biden with 14, 15 million viewers on abc. that compares to 13 million for trump. on three different channels, so trump went in here hoping to beat biden in the rating. actually, the opposite happened. biden was ahead. what does that mean? does that speak to trump fatigue? does it show people are tired of watching the president and antics on stage at these events or people are more curious about biden and want to check him out one more time in october? the ratings probably mean a lot of things and obviously votes matter more than ratings. but it was a big surprise to see trump losing to biden in this head-to-head race. >> when you talk about numbers and optics and how many people were there how many eyeballs there were. that's a trigger for this president. how is the biden campaign reacting to that? >> it absolutely is. i remember a decade ago he used to scribble messages about his a

it shows that this country is plugged in. >> brian stelter, great to see you. >> thanks. >>> it is the am brianna keilar. the coronavirus pandemic in america is a disaster. the u.s. case count is above 8 million, the highest in the world. hospitalizations are overflowing and overwhelming in many states, and flu season only started. the president is still not modeling cdc guidelines, but his secretary of health and human services is urging americans to. >> this is being driven by individual behaviors at this point. the community spread is happening because we've got to keep focused on washing our hands, watching our distance, and wearing our face coverings, in particular being careful in household gatherings. this has been become a major vector of disease spread. >> more than half of the u.s. -- that is 32 states -- are showing an upward trend in cases. there's only one state, oregon, that is heading in the right direction. the number of deaths increasing, the seven-day average for deaths is 763. hospitalizations are soaring with more than 41,000 yesterday. that is a

jim acosta as well as cnn chief political analyst gloria borger, cnn chief media correspondent brian stelter with us. kayleigh mcenany, white house press secretary, is the latest staffer to announce she has been infected with coronavirus. jim, she knew that she had been exposed to hope hicks and to the president, known coronavirus infections. here she is yesterday briefing reporters without a mask. >> yeah, brianna. this is inexplicable, inexcusable. kayleigh mcenany, the white house press secretary who is supposed to be a role model for the united states of america, she's supposed to be almost a spokesperson for united states of america has been working at the white house mostly maskless ever since she found out that she was exposed to hope hicks and potentially exposed to the coronavirus, yet she has been going in and out of the white house day-in and day-out, exposing herself to other people. we now learned just in the last hour or so that a couple more press staffers in her area of the west wing have tested positive for coronavirus. brianna, i will tell you, i walked up to lower and uppe

brian stelter is joining us now.in the new rule. >> during the two-minute where each candidate is asked a question, it is two-minute uninterrupted. the microphone from the other candidate will be cut-off. this is where donald trump stepping on biden on the first debate. it is really trump trying to railroad the debate last month and now of the crucial two-minutes, biden will be able to speak freely and no interruption and vice versa. it will be up to moderator kristen welker to maintain order. debate commission was under intense pressure to do something after the first debate. what they have done here is a half way measure, what the biden campaign may have wanted and the trump campaign. the trump campaign is railing against kristen welker and the topic election and now this new rule. if president trump must do an attack with the debate commission and for him not to show up, here is another reason to. >> and just because they mute the microphones, if the president is speaking, i don't know how directional these mics a

i want to get some more information now from cnn's brian stelter. what can you tell us? who is this? who have they come in contact with? >> right. we don't know the names of these individuals but this is further evidence of a white house outbreak of the coronavirus. not just the president and the first lady but also others at the white house complex. this is an internal memo from the white house correspondents' association that say that is there's one journalist preliminarily tested positive and a white house staffer who sits in the press area who works with journalists who has received a confirmed positive result. i fear, this is the beginning of something much bugger but the other journalists tested today tested negative. throughout this pandemic, the white house correspondents association and members of the media taking more precautions and this reaffirms this point saying make sure if you don't have to work at the white house don't work at the white house right now. quote, we cannot stress enough the importance of mask wearing, social distancing and common sense at t

brian stelter, cnn, new york. >> the swing state of florida has been a big focus in in presidential race, and president trump won florida in the last election, but now the coronavirus pandemic is making some senior voters reconsider their stance. jeff zeleny reports. >> let's go joe. >> reporter: these florida seniors are fired up for joe biden. but it's not only democrats taking their stand. a bigger threat to president trump's reelection may come from voters like tommy and rody johnson, lifelong republicans who supported him four years ago but won't again. >> i feel he's responsible for thousands and thousands of deaths because of his attitude about it. he still is dishonest about it. he keeps saying it's getting better and it never is. >> reporter: their frustration turned to fury with his handling of the coronavirus. >> we voted for him, and of course the virus, covid, has been terrible. >> reporter: three weeks ago, his son tested positive for covid-19. >> i was mad because he had it, and it was, you know, and i kept thinking, it's mr. trump's fault because this thing should never h

brian stelter, dr. yasmin, dr.eciate it. >>> more breaking news, my goodness, now new england patriots quarterback cam newton has reportedly tested positive for coronavirus. that's according to espn. the team releasing a statement a short time ago, but did not identify the player infected. several other players, coaches, staff, were tested as a precaution. the results all coming back negative for just about everyone else there reportedly. but now the patriots' schedule sunday opponent, the kansas chiefs, also having a positive test. the nfl saying sunday's game between the patriots and chiefs will be rescheduled. so, again, cam newton testing positive for covid-19. >>> thank you so much, everyone. for being with us and rolling with us. a lot of breaking news. i'm fredricka whitfield. more newsroom continues after this. we made usaa insurance for this season. and the veterans that never quit on their team. when being a fan gets tough, and stretching your budget gets even tougher... ...our agents put in the time and

brian stelter, thank you. >>> no second presidential debate.lling town halls. >> voters did not get a lot of straight answers. >> did -- >> probably did. >> decency to be able determine whether you are clear. >> as we enter the cooler season of the fall you don't want to be in that compromised position. >> this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >> welcome our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." joe biden and president trump sparring in duelling and distant town halls last night. the contrast in tone and substance on key issues like the pandemic was clear. if you could switch back and forth and toggle with your remote fast enough. president trump again spread misleading information though about masks. >> as far as the mask is on kernd, i'm good with masks. i'm okay with masks, i tell people wear masks but just the other day they came out with a statement that 85% of the people that wear masks catch it. >> what? i know that study -- >> that's what i heard and that's what i saw. >> that's not

brian stelter is with us, our media correspondent. brian, what did you think of the photo op, the president walking out of the walter reed national military center without saying anything, basically thank you, ignored reporters' questions, gave a thumbs up and got in the suv. >> one reporter asked if he believes he could be a super spreader himself. that question was ignored. all of it makes sense when you view it through the prism of the following idea. the president views every day as a television show. he produces the star, wants to be the starve t of the show. he is not thinking two weeks ahead, he is trying to win today, make today's tv show the best he can, he wins, he is star of the show. i think that's what we're seeing on the screen now. it is cynical and dangerous given his own health and condition that he is off producing the show on his own. that's the logical, that's the illogical strategy to this when we see it on live television. he knows the nightly newscasts are on now. >> there he is, there's the president, brian. he'

it seems, in some ways, a very stale commission that's note keeping up with the times. >> brian stelterappreciate it. thanks very much. perspective now from cnn political director, david ch chalian. and author of election meltdown, dirty tricks, distrust, and the threat to american democracy. david, with pennsylvania being such a critical state in deciding the election, how important a win for democrats is this? >> it's a big win for democrats because across the country in these battleground states, they have been looking to extend receipt deadlines, when the ballots can still be received and counted. given the fact we are in the midst of a pandemic. and so many more americans are going to be voting by mail than have before. but, anderson, the -- the real, critical, sort of, effect that i think this is going to have is that everyone is going to need to be really patient on election night. this is a critical state. we know that it can determine who gets to 270. and now, you are dealing with a state that has very little history of absentee, vote by mail. it's usually, all, sort of electio

bush's white house staff, and john avlon is a senior political analyst and brian stelter is also with this was a reality tv stunt of sorts in the middle of a surging pandemic by a president who is battling a deadly disease. what's your reaction to this? >> the worse kind of reality tv stunt. this is not ronald reagan waving from the window to reassure the american people. this was michael jackson holding a baby over the balcony recklessly. it put others in danger and it's emblematic of the trump years. the photos the white house has been releasing, the videos, we have to show them because they're the only evidence we have of the president's condition, but they're propagandistic, that's unfortunately the situation we're in. and the press pool that is supposed to travel with the president at all times, they were not informed about this photo-op, they were not with him when this happened. that's a grievance breach of protocol and they're saying it's outrageous for the president to have left the hospital without a protective pool present to ensure the american people know where the presid

brian stelter. >> evening. >> so, this was the first real tv interview for the president, since he was sick. was this the first time that he has been challenged? >> i think it was. and look at the past week or so. he called into a bunch of fox shows. he called into a bunch of radio shows. he briefly appeared on camera for this and that. but he hasn't been with a real journalist, in a tough interview, since he was infected with coronavirus two weeks ago. so it is notable savannah guthrie was able to ask about his testing history, symptoms, by downplaying the use of masks and all that, at least he did give a chance for a journalist to ask real questions. and by the way, don, i don't think he will do it again, between now and election day. this was probably his last, big interview before election day. yeah, there is a debate in a week and, hopefully, he will show up for that debate. but in terms of a reporter being able to sit down and ask him questions over and over and over again, this is an important

let's discuss with our chief media correspondent, brian stelter. heard some of the president's final public remarks about coronavirus before he revealed a few hours later that his covid diagnosis was positive. what insight does that give us? >> that's exactly what this was. it was the president's final interview, final public statement before announcing his virus diagnosis. he called his friend, sean hannity. they talked about coronavirus almost like it was an aside, wolf. like it was the least important thing in the world. but he did say he was off for a test and waiting for the results. this matters because of these two competing timelines. if you believe what dr. conley said rornon the record on front cameras, that the diagnosis was on wednesday, then the president was lying on sean hannity's statement. if you believe the cleanup statement that the diagnosis was on thursday evening, it might make sense that trump was waiting for the answers from the test result. but it just goes to show that the president is out there you know, on hannity's show

joining us now brian stelter. brian, joe biden, his campaign says he will take part in next week's virtual debate. you and i and poppy have covered many times where the president has reversed himself on things, earlier this week on stimulus talks being over and then at least partial stimulus talks back on. >> right. >> given the size of the audience as you have noted in this debate, many tens of millions of people, should we expect the president to stick with his decision and what happens if he does? >> i think we should all be very skeptical of the president's claims right now. there is one time where the president skipped a debate, it was during the gop primary, he boycotted a fox news debate but he was already the front runner in the polls, he didn't really need the debate back then. now he does need to debate, he is behind in all the polls, he is losing and he needs help. so joe biden campaign is already saying they will be there, they will be there virtually next weakened a the debate commission, the co-chair

with me is our brian stelter, anchor of "reliable sources" and gloria borger. this was decided by an independence commission. is nbc rewarding trump for refusing to debate by not only holding this, but holding it at the same time that biden has a similar event. >> the biden town hall was scheduled first, the time slot was scheduled last sunday, nbc was in talks with the campaign all up to this morning when they announced the town hall with the president. the president probably thinking he'll win this ratings war, but this is a bad looks for nbc. but nbc said it's all about parity. all right brown has had some entertainment stars speaking out against the network. i see no indication that nbc or abc will reschedule. with he know when it comes to the debates, the moderators are not supposed to fact check. we see more often in these events, an anchor may weigh in more. 'you're measures and weighing the pros and cons of this, what do you think about this whole matchup? >> first of all, in a town hall, particularly this close to an election, i think it's final for a

brian stelter is gjoining us an amanda. to see you both. >> he's trying to show that he's in good health and spirit. he's using strong man language. he's going to a safe space on conservative talk radio and tv. these spaces are only safe because the interviewers are more propaganda. he's not being asked important questions. for example, when was his last negative test? i want you to take a listen to some of the lies that trump pushed on conservative media over the last two days. >> she's a communist and this monster that was on stage, mike pence, he endorsed the governor of virginia who and not only executed the baby because the baby could not be born and then you could kill a baby. he's totally in favor of that. i have done more for the black community than anybody since abraham lincoln. it is true. >> they don't like biden, they don't like biden. >> oh my god. so - can you explain to me, amanda, help me understand why he's taking his message to the people who already support him when he needs to be expanding right now, hi

brian stelter and david. gentlemen, thank you for joining. brian, you know how i feel about this.o, president trump bails on the debate, ends up with his own town hall against biden's event. why did nbc do this? >> because this was an opening in the schedule, because there is no debate nbc thought this might be the one chance to get trump in a town hall. of course, don, the problem is biden was already booked by abc. by sunday, nbc knew that the biden town hall would be at 8:00 p.m. so, for the last four days, they made a choice to schedule it head to head with biden. my conclusion, don, and after speaking with sources at nbc today, and that trump wants this. trump wants a head to head match up, and nbc has decided to give it to him. >> unbelievable. we're hearing there's some internal backlash, brian. >> oh, yeah, definitely some internal backlash, people at the network saying this is collusion between the network and the campaign. the view is they're having a town hall for trump at the same time this week. >> come on. >> that's the view from management. >> come on. >> i can tell

joining me now, cnn chief media correspondent, brian stelter. and senatamanda carpenter. to both. brian, this president loves to rant on conservative media but this is a lot. it's a lot, even for him. >> he is trying to show that he is in good health and good spirits. he says he's feeling very strong, now. he is using strong-man language. and, don, he is going to his safe spaces on conservative talk radio and tv. but these spaces are only safe because the interviewers are more like propagandists. he is not answering important questions. for example, when was his last negative test, before he tebste positive? in these safe spaces, trump is not asked. >> amanda, i want you to take a listen to -- do some of the lies and conspiracy theories that trump has pushed on conservative media, just over the last two days. >> she is a communist. and this monster that was on stage with mike pence. he endorsed a governor of virginia, who not only executed a baby, late-term abortion, but executed a baby but said the baby can be born, and then you can kill the baby and he is totally in fav

. >> brian stelter, appreciate it. thank you. michael steel endorsing joe biden. he joins the line. chuck hagle is also joining us now with dana bash. dana, i want to get your reaction to whatever this president was pulling with lesley stalls. what do you make of it? >> that's classic, vintage donald trump. we have seen him walk out of press briefings when he gets a question he does not like. back in the day when he was still doing interviews before he became president. i had the experience of him walking away from me during a gaggle after a debate and i am not alone. this is the way he operates and on top of that, a big reason why the president is going after anthony fauci the way he has because the words that fauci used on "60 minutes." we don't know the content of what happened. he's obviously in a bad place. he's lashing out and that's been evident in public and also some of my reporting from people talking to him in private. >> his ratings will be better than biden's rating than "60 minutes." >> secretary hagle, you are a registered republican and you served as a republican in

there's an incredible quote that brian stelter pointed out to me, i want to read it because it's just stunning to me he said back in august, when i arrived at the white house this morning i was struck by the lack of safety protocols in place. the most famous place in the world feels like coronavirus breeding ground. >> i think a lot of us wondered to our self has donald trump not gotten it? the most important point, what might change because of this? i don't think donald trump is going to have an awakening, although i should remind people boris johnson switched obviously from being a covid denier to giving a powerful speech, a mia culpa speech after he got out of the hospital. homeland security, personal security, here is what the major problem is with the white house. they had no redundancy in their security. they were testing everyone in the morning, convincing themselves the tests were perfect. the abbott quick tests have been criticized. it appears when hope actually got her testing that she tested negative that morning so the white house staff thinks i tested, i'm fine. so you ha

. >> brian stelter has a list of cnn reliable sources with a brand-new entitled book hoax, donald trumpthe hoax and dangerous distortion of the truth. what do you mike of the president's rhetoric when i comes to qanone? it's a hoax linked to violence in the united states. by having the president say i don't know what they're about and they're opposed to ped fellia fell ophelia. it's disturbing that a virtual cult, qanon is a cyrtual cult. the president doesn't clearly denounce. instead, he tip toes, he knows his storiers are qanon believers. it will continue to be a problem in the final steps of the campaign. >> i think you are right. the president refused to do as we know what was called for a virtual head-to-head debate with joe biden this past week and then scheduled the competing town hall. his campaign manager jason miller predicted they beat biden in a metric that really as we all know seriously matters to the president. we are talking television ratings. but that's not what happened. tell us more. >> this was a shock to people at abc and nbc and the biden campaign. there was an a

joining me brian stelter, chief media correspondent and host of "reliable sources." brian, what else did wallace say? >> he says it was trump's fault. he doesn't want to rewatch the debate. i don't think most people do. he didn't realize until about 40 minutes in how badly it was going. fundamentally that's the problem and a warning to future moder e moderators. you have to imagine how it's going to go. wallace had a failure of imagination what trump was going to do. how do you moderate a wrecking ball? you don't. wrecking balls aren't supposed to show up for presidential debates. the commission is talking about what changes to make. that's why the trump campaign is arguing against any possible changes. seems like they want to have two more debates like this one, and nobody else wants that. >> did wallace talk about that today, did you hear, brian, the potential changes? >> right. this idea about cutting off the microphone of interrupter. he's skeptical. he thinks it would be uncomfortable for the moderator to be empowered to make that kind of decision. it would put t

joining us now brian stelter, whose new book could not be more on point right now. ere are so many inconsistencies here, brian. >> one positive of this terrible story, this terrible diagnosis for the president. it's that nobody in this country will think this is a hoax anymore. that has been a disturbing narrative for the past eight months and perhaps for some people who are the president's most loyal fans, his diagnosis is a wake-up call. we've seen some chatter about that on right-wing websites and on fox news. it is notable to go back to thursday night when the president called into sean hannity's show. in retrospect, we knew he knew about hope hicks. he must have known about some of his own health concerns. here is what he said to hannity that night shortly before his diagnosis was concerned. >> she tested positive. i just heard about this. she tested positive. hard worker. lot of masks. she wears masks a lot but she tested positive. and i just went out with a test. i'll see -- you know, we spent a lot of time -- and the first lady went out also. i just went out

. >> i want to bring in brian stelter in new york. for those watching the election and in terms of the idea that there will be another presidential debate or two more seems in this moment with so much not known hard to imagine. this is news that is rocking the entire world. americans waking up to the news are starting your day. my wife just woke up. this is a scary story. when you find out you tested positive it can be very frightening. i think it acknowledged the fear factor. you know, the president flew to new jersey. there are giant signs that tell you if you have been to a coronavirus hot spot area, you must quarantine for 14 days. the president has been defying the rules all along and has been breaking the rules all along. this is the ultimate test if he will show actual presidential leadership. and it is a test for him on the global stage. he is a role model in other countries as well. >> we already know the fact that he went on the fundraising trip to new jersey on thursday. he had a reduced staff indicating they already knew,

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brian stelter has a look at the fallout. >> reporter: yes, if this photo op was meant to be reassuringhe opposite effect. there was an avalanche of concern about the secret service officers who were in the car with the president who were in the car for this bizarre publicity stunt. the white house immediately spoke out and denounced the circumstances of the trip. the white house press pool, which is a small group of reporters which were supposed to travel with reporters at all times was not notified about this trip and was not with the president during this drive along the road near walter reed. here's a state from the white house association pointing out this is a break of protocol that is very concerning. quote, it is outrageous for the president to have left the hospital, even briefly, amid a health crisis without a protective pool present to ensure that the american people know where their president is and how he is doing. now more than ever the american public deserves independent coverage of the president so they can be reliebly informed about his health. there's a lot of propaga

i'm brian stelter. we are standing by for another medical briefing from walter reed medical center.ng the president's doctors to provide an update on his condition. we hope there will be questions from the reporter to get to the bottom of yesterday's confusion. we don't know exactly when the press conference will begin. the white house pool, the small group of reporters that travels with the president are setting up outside of walter reed. so we are standing by for that press conference. >>> let's start with the big picture of what we are all covering this weekend. we are covering a possible cover-up about the health of the president of the united states. a possible cover-up being led by the psint

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brian stelter, what are you seeing? are these big?ey are a lot higher than i expected, to be honest. about 50 million people tuned in. compared that to the same debate in 2016, about 35 million. the numbers will decrease there are the day, but at least 50 million people watched. normally this is more like the junior varsity ticket or the just in case sort of debate. it gets a lot less attention, but not this year. this year i think many americans see how important the vice presidential candidates are. they recognize the age of the candidates at the top of the ticket. they were very interested. more than 50 million, probably closer to 60 million when the final numbers come in. it shows that people are wide awake and paying attention. >> we're in a pandemic, right? so i think people are watching more in general. is there any way to tell how much of this is enthusiasm about the -- i guess -- >> i lost you, unfortunately. >> brian, here i am talking to myself. brian, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking

and i think they are winning and of course, to your point, i saw liz harrington in a clip with brian steltere biden has faced the media a hundred times. they are coming to his aid and defense at every time. i will say i feel really badly for the situation that his son is in in terms of his problems and issues. i know it must be tugging at joe biden as a father and as a man. i think he's in a tough period right here, trying to be president of the united states but also dealing with family issues, outside of all the signs that point to corruption. before i let you go, last week president trump made comments about the amount of money joe biden had taken from wall street, then commentators said it sounded like sour grapes but whatever happened to the time when people were so worried about the influence of wall street and now they're cheering the fact joe biden is getting millions of dollars from wall street? >> not just millions, tens of millions of dollars. joe biden is winning the money race and guess what, while he talks about how he's the representative of the small business guy, you know, t

so i want to bring in cnn's chief media correspondent, brian stelter, to talk to us about all of thisso, listen. you know, the president, we'll play that a little bit later, on fox news talking about this and that was really the first, official comment from the white house. but, brian, why did we not learn directly from the white house? why did we have to hear it as sort of an aside from somebody else? >> breaking from a bloomberg reporter, confirmed by cnn and other outlets. this leaked, it was not confirmed by the white house. and trump only confirmed it, after it leaked out. that is the sign of a dysfunctional white house that doesn't know how to handle this situation, doesn't know how to handle this problem. and of course, hope hick social security a communication expert. she is the president's most trusted aide. she was with him ever since the very embryonic stages of the campaign in 2015. she has deep relationships with lots of reporters. obviously, all those reporters, myself included, are hoping that she is doing just fine and will make a quick recovery through this. but to kn

i want to bring in cnn's chief media correspondent brian stelter. >> good evening. >> this was the first real tv interview for the president since he was sick. was this the first time that he has been challenged? >> i think it was. you look at the past week or so, he called in to a bunch of fox shows. he called into a bunch of radio shows. for this and that, but he hasn't been with a real journalist in a tough interview since he was infected with coronavirus two weeks ago. so it is notable that savannah guthrie was able to ask about his testing history, about his symptoms, about his feelings about masks. even though he was evasive and he gave dangerous answers on these questions by down playing the use of masks and all of that, but at least he did give a chance for a journalist so ask questions. by the way, don, i don't think he'll do it again between now and election day this is probably his last big interview before election day. there's a debate, hopefully he'll show up for the debate. but a reporter able to ask him questions over and over again,

joining us also, anchor of "reliable sources" brian stelter. while the doctor's objective was to paint this relatively, you know, rosy, positive view of how the president is doing, a new problem has just arisen. this timeline. why would the public learn about this positive test of covid-19 and the doctor says, actually, we have been doing treatment this long, since 72 hours ago he was diagnosed. how big of a problem is that? >> this credibility problem just became worse. this credibility gap became even bigger. and that's because of these timeline questions. it matters because the president was in front of dozens of people on wednesday and thursday. we know it for a fact. and if he had been diagnosed on wednesday, this is a massive scandal. it also, of course, causes even more concerns about his health. if he has been sick now for this period of time. this did not seem like a real medical news conference, fred. it seemed like a white house press conference. the sort of political press conference we are accustomed to where there are more questio

i'm brian stelter. we are standing by for another medical briefing from walter reed medical center. we are expecting the president's doctors to provide an update on his condition. we hope there will be questions from the reporter to get to the bottom of yesterday's confusion. we don't know exactly when the press conference will begin. the white house pool, the small group of reporters that travels with the president are setting up outside of walter reed. so we are standing by for that press conference. >>> let's start with the big picture of what we are all covering this weekend. we are covering a possible cover-up about the health of the president of the united states. a possible cover-up being led by the president from his hospital room because he is so sensitive about being perceived as weak. well, real strength begins with telling the truth. so let me tell you who we have standing by to talk about this. david gergen, susan glasser and many more. this is a critical moment. it's day three of the president's hospital stay and there is a lot we don't know. we have seen the president