the fbi has admitted that they got part of me the bruce ohr.nd the wife of bruce ohr, wasn't she one of the ones that worked for fusion gps hire the foreign national? and russia try to impact the election hillary, is that not true? >> his wife works for fusion gps in the summer and he gets information and passed it to the fbi. that becomes a basis to spy on the trumpet in vain, plain and simple. this is the first time to my knowledge that the fbi has admitted that, this whole investigation -- >> he hesitated. he didn't want to answer your question. >> he sure didn't come up and took me three rounds to get it out of him. but this investigation started flawed with the dossier and that had some great questioning. where bob mueller gets rid of peter strzok, he didn't even ask about all these text messages that show his animus to president trump, donald trump. he didn't even get into the fact that peter strzok had written all of these terrible things about our president, he didn't even get into that. so this thing was flawed when it started basicall

fourth ranking official in justice department, his wife was working for fusion gps we know that bruce ohr in september of 2016 giving parts of the dossier to the fbi. that is significant. this is the dossier that the whole case was built on, they took to secreter court to get secret worth to spy on carter page, they done tell court that christopher steel was fired by fbi and dossier was pare paid fy the clinton campaign, other key element we learned that peter strzok was kicked ouch of mule f mueller's team, bob mueller did not ask him any questions. this investigation started with i think with this bologna dossier, now at end they are getting rid of peter strzok there is smell there too, that is the problem. lou: well, a problem that seems to be now again unyou under your questioning in particular, it may be headed toward for first time resolution. tomorrow lisa page, strzok's lover, give us a sense of what we're expecting in close door testimony. >> she is no longer an employee of the fbi. peter strzok she will not be able to use that tomorrow in the closed-door deposition setting, i do

that bruce ohr and his wife, nelly, working for fusion gps, though they had been part of the conduit into the fbi. these are extraordinary developments, and we are asking the question, or even a questio question, very simply, is this the beginning of the end of the special counsel because this is obviously an fbi that is rife with corruption and bias, turned into an absolute assault of subversion against the president of the united states. >> well, i think the credibility of that whole thing, i think it is shot. the fact of the matter, when you have that type of bias, when you have bruce ohr acting like a political operative in in the justice department, feeding his opposition research to people like strzok and the fbi, and they are launching a counterintelligence investigation, and they puffed it up past the election. that is really unprecedented. it was abuse of the surveillance powers, from the powers of the government. and lisa page is not going to come tomorrow, or she is going to be held. i think she is going to show up. she will have to answer questions as well, and i think we

. >> but you did say you talked with bruce ohr, fellow department of justice employment and nellie ohr's husband. >> yes. >> it's common knowledge that nellie ohr worked for fusion in the summer of 2016. >> i don't know if it's common knowledge. >> it's been in all kinds of press reports. all right. you met with bruce ohr in 2016 and 17. the times that we're focused on. >> to the best of my recollection, yes. >> and you won't tell me what you talked about. >> we can talk about operational matters that he was involved in but the fbi directed me not to -- >> specifically -- you can't get into specifics and details. did bruce ohr give you any documents? >> same answer. i'd like to answer it but the fbi directed me not to get to -- >> my understanding, mr. chairman, the discussions we've had with the fbi, he's allowed to tell us those pieces of information. i'm not asking what the documents were. i asking did bruce ohr hand you documents? >> i understand your question. i'd love to answer. my understanding from the fbi when it comes to operational details including whether we collected eviden

initially with bruce ohr being the individual supplying the dossier. and then at the end when mueller had to let strzok go, a lot of lawyers don't ask questions they don't want to know the answer to. maybe he didn't want to ask strzok whether his bias affected the investigation. because if he said yes, mueller would have had to stop in place. but he saw the bias and he didn't want to ask peter strzok how it could have affected the investigative findings. kennedy: knewer would have had to bifurcate his investigation if there was bias. it seems like it's almost hillary regret. they say the word regret and they talk about contrition. and they gloss over their short comings, but then go into a series of rationalizations. it was interesting to me. if you were the subject of a department investigation by an inspector general, and your name appears on a 600-page document. it seems like strzok only extracted one line from that document that said political bias didn't affect prosecutorial conduct. however, there were specific passages some of your colleagues re

> what i am authorized to tell you in response to a question, did you receive any documents from bruce ohr, the fbi has directed me that i may say, not me, the fbi received documents and materials from mr. orr. >> did you? but you did not come mr. ohr. did you get the dossier from mr. ohr? >> the fbi received material. congressman -- >> this is amazing. nellie orr works for fusion, works for glenn simpson, and she is giving documents -- >> regular order. let us bring in the director of the fbi to answer those questions. the gentleman cannot answer. he cannot answer. >> regular order. >> i understand, mr. chairman. >> the fbi has instructed mr. strzok he can answer additional questions. >> agent strzok. >> get the answers to those questions. >> has the fbi given you permission to say if glenn simpson is the name used in the email where you say simpson? >> i don't believe they have given me guidance. my most recent understanding of my guidance from the fbi is in response to the question of whether the fbi received documents from mr. ohr. the answer is we did. that's all i'm authorized to say

bruce ohr, whose wife worked for fusion. it is coming to bruce ohr, going to the fbi. was that what they used? this is as scary as it gets. that's why the nunes memo was right on target. byron's column lays it out on the fact that they are saying this is just wrong. if the dossier wasn't important, why did you lead with it? if you're so concerned about what's going on. >> laura: if you're going to reference it, why not go all in and reference. from hillary clinton. she paid for it. they did say they parted ways with him, christopher steele. it's curious if they're going to mention it why not go with it? it's kind of like covering your you know what kind of reference. oblique enough that maybe the judges -- >> it was the essential part of the application. >> laura: how do we know that? >> they talk about carter page's past. he had had run-ins with the fbi because the russians tried to recruit him. that was in the past. for them to get a warrant in october 2016, there had to be something new. the new material with the allegations in the dossier. they could easily have na

did you get documents from bruce ohr? >> yes. at some point we received material from mr. ohr. >> what were those documents? >> we received documents from mr. ohr, not me. excuse me, sir. >> i can maybe make it simpler. agent strzok, was it the dossier? >> sir, what i'm authorized to tell you in response to a question, did you receive any documents from bruce ohr, the fbi has directed me that i may say not me. the fbi received documents and material from mr. ohr. >> did you -- i appreciate that. i appreciate that, but did you did not from mr. ohr, but the fbi did get documents from bruce ohr. did they get the dossier from mr. ohr? >> my direction from the fbi is the fbi received materials from -- >> mr. ohr -- >> congressman -- >> this is amazing. this is amazing. nellie ohr works for fusion. works for glenn simpson. and she's giving documents -- >> regular order, please. >> let us bring the director of the fbi to answer those questions. the gentleman cannot answer. asked and answered. >> the american people -- >> he cannot answer. >> the gentlewoman -- the regular order is

. >> bruce ohr gave the fbi information relative to the dossier? >> yes.t to remind folks, bruce ohr was very high up at the doj. his wife worked for fusion gps, which was the group paid for by the dnc, they put together the trump dossier, apparently, i guess her name is medical nellie ohr's husband, bruce, was passing information around the fbi. looks like one side of the presidential ticket, going into the election was generating an investigation at the fbi. that doesn't look good? >> yeah, that is the single-most important piece of information that came out of that wwe wrestling match yesterday we witnessed. that is a gem that was elicitedded by the congressman. because we now know that the dossier information, strzok was a little bit cagey about it, he didn't take it, but came into people worked under him, when finally got phrasing the question the right way, he gave that answer. i'm not so sure the fbi was not crawling out of their skin behind him, but they got the answer out anyway. david: they give me a wrap. i'm sorry. we're squeezed with breaking

strzok acknowledged that the fbi received documents from bruce ohr that came from fusion., that's a pretty big detail, suggest that is the fbi was working, you know, had the interlock here, fbi official with fusion gps? >> yes, it's new. hoab had acknowledged or divulged that before and also in part because this inserts the obama justice department into this too. it was clear that this was not handled simply through intelligence channels and there was back-door dealings which people have suspected. paul: bill, you were watching the hearing, what's your take? >> peter strzok tried to wrap himself and saying attacks on him, questioning of him was discrediting the fbi. that's not true. we have inspector general's report and andrew mccabe, top director may be indicted, people like peter strzok, andrew mccabe and lisa page brought disgrace, all at the top. in fact, as they handle investigations, they shut out the people in the field doing it. the real take away, peter strzok was a lining rod, he was arrogant and defiant. paul palling at the hearing, you mean? >> at the hearing,

bruce ohr is a department of justice official. his wife worked for fusion gps. fusion gps was hired by the democratic national committee and hillary clinton to do the whole russia operation. now that we see that there was this fondling of information, it's interesting and i think the will be more questions about whg started and how it got out of control. whether protocols were followed. it's unprecedented to be wiretapping at opposing party's campaign and be doing this level of surveillance and we didn't really get any good interesting answers about why it started in the first place. >> shannon: i talked to one of the members today and he said the only reason they were so bold and so many things that were happening is that they never thought there was any chance trump would actually become the president and they never thought they would have to answer questions about it. lisa page tomorrow behind closed doors at 1:30. we will report on whatever we can find out. >> more justice officials and other people will be coming. >> shannon: mollie hemingway, thanks for st

. >> so bruce ohr did give the information information relative to the dossier? >> yes. >> and another source in mid september gave you personally information -- >> no. >> you the fbi information relative to the dossier? >> i never received dossier information. the fbi in mid september, the first time i'm aware of the fbi having that information, the first time i saw it was in mid september. my understanding is that was -- that came into the fbi. that's when i became aware of it and when i first read it. >> one more time. bruce ohr gave the fbi documents related to and supporting or part of the dossier? is that accurate? >> mr. ohr gave the fbi documents which included material that i believe originated from mr. steele. >> thank you. >> the gentleman may briefly answer the question that the gentlemen felled he didn't have an opportunity to answer. >> i wanted to address, when you bring up an integrity issue and you and the gentleman from texas raised this that approaches -- it's insulting. >> the gentleman may answer the question. >> sir, what i'm saying, i'm her

on this and then bruce ohr was a person who violated the political information into the intelligence spectrum. for those reasons, i take a different view of my good friend marco rubio. >> shannon: when they fisa stuff went public, i was trying to read it on my twitter feed west split down the middle. on the left they were claiming victory appeared on the right, they were claiming victory, each side saying that what they read prove their point. i want is a little bit more about what congressman adam schiff, the ranking member on the house intel and the democrats, what he had to say. >> this is a false, patently false provably false statement but not just by nunes. others signed off on it too like trey gowdy and indeed the entire majority signed off on the nunes memoranda. >> shannon: patently false statements by you and others? >> this fisa application has become like an ink blot test for republicans and democrats to look at it to see what they want to see. let's start where we should have broad bipartisan agreement. if a political candidate pays for opposition research and that oppos

at the time of meeting with bruce ohr, did you know that his wife worked for fusion?eve the same answer. sorry about the time. sir again, i'm sorry. i'd like to answer that question but at the direction of the fbi because it relates to an on going operational matter, i can't. >> let's go to the e-mail. sounds like there's three copies but two different versions. the set you're examining and referencing to your colleagues you say is identical to what mccain has, referring to the dossier and cornyn and simpson, you won't tell me who the individuals are but that one is different. is that an accurate reading of your e-mail? >> it isn't. i think to give you the context of that comment, i would have to -- i have to tell you, sir, this is more frustrating for me than for you. because of the -- because to frame that -- to give you an accurate answer, i would have to give you the context of what was going on, which includes details that i've been instructed by the fbi that i may not provide. >> there's another e-mail down below on the one you're looking at which talks about bu

strzok acknowledged that the fbi received documents from bruce ohr that came from fusion.l: well, that's a pretty big detail, suggest that is the fbi was working, you know, had the interlock here, fbi official with fusion gps? >> yes, it's new. hoab had acknowledged or divulged that before and also in part because this inserts the obama justice department into this too. it was clear that this was not handled simply through intelligence channels and there was back-door dealings which people have suspected. paul: bill, you were watching the hearing, what's your take? >> peter strzok tried to wrap himself and saying attacks on him, questioning of him was discrediting the fbi. that's not true. we have inspector general's report and andrew mccabe, top director may be indicted, people like peter strzok, andrew mccabe and lisa page brought disgrace, all at the top. in fact, as they handle investigations, they shut out the people in the field doing it. the real take away, peter strzok was a lining rod, he was arrogant and defiant. paul palling at the hearing, you mean? >> at the h

bruce ohr's wife worked at fusion gps.see behind the scenes why they are so concerned about it jim jordan was right on spot. he drew out probably the most important factual information from there. steve: it will be interesting to see what happens today behind closed doors. lisa page the other love birds up on capitol hill. i'm sure we are going to find out soon enough what she has to say. thank you for joining us today from utah have. a good weekend. >> thank you. steve: 7:13 in new york city. president trump days away from his meeting with vladimir putin. the president calling him a competitor, not his enemy. what kind of message does that send ahead of the summit? we are going to talk to an expert about that next. brian: plus, forget plastic straws. one mayor wants to ban neckties. seriously. steve: well, maybe that one. brian: that will not affect our show ♪ ve gum problems, and could be on the journey to much worse. try parodontax toothpaste. it's clinically proven to remove plaque, the main cause of bleeding gums. for

there is this triangulation between the dnc and what was going on in the hillary clinton campaign, bruce ohr, and how it was funneled back into the fbi. was that information then fed and appropriately to the court to obtain warrants? i thought jim jordan had one of the best sets of questions. he got him to admit that under oath that ohr was involved. his wife was involved. the company that has less than 20 employees. it does involve the dnc. it does involve political actors that would have naturalism ties to the white house. it is still an open and valid question. >> laura: goodlatte can we have enormous respect for him. he has done such great work. at the beginning of that hearing today, the democrats had clearly plans. they had planned to get this thing off track. objection. objection. talking over each other. it was like a major swarm. he had that gamble on his pants. i have a feeling it, the room would have been cleared. did you think that was a smart move? democrats really dominated for the first, i would say for the first 10 minutes of these constant objections. >> yeah, one of the tak

for example, there is something really important, if you have the information that you have with bruce ohris at the heart of this, because his wife was working for fusion gps. that information, he knew that christopher steele did not like trump and did not want trump to win. the fbi had that. >> sean: and put it together. >> that's right. >> sean: what you did is to help this democratic republic survive, i actually worry about this abuse of power, i worry about a corrupt media, we are not going to stop on this program. thank you for all you have done, mr. chairman. thank you. when we come back we have breaking news, the trump audio is out. i will give you a hint. a huge dud. solid dud straight ahead. ♪ little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, ... with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to ot

information in the fisa that showed that even christopher steele himself one was bias because we know bruce ohr's testimony proved that and he worked for the department of justice and demoted twice and nellie ohr worked for fusion gps. not only that, christopher steele himself couldn't verify the information that he was collecting from the russians. okay. we're going to believe it, we're going to open a fisa warrant investigation on carter page, water going to spy on president trump and drag the entire administration for more than 1 1/2 years into this mess with robert mueller. >> laura: and this is cohen from 2017. he said in a tweet, i'm so proud of donald trump jr. for being open, honest and transparent to the american people. this nonsense needs to stop. that was at the issue with the meeting came out initially. >> cohen says he has no evidence to support his own claim. you people that say otherwise. this points to the actual issue of cohen's credibility. >> laura: who cares if he knew. >> the point being the entire case of the russia collusion hinges on him going to prague to conspire with t

that included senior doj official, bruce ohr, whose wife was working with christopher steele, i fusionps, she was helpingel to make up all these lies. the cia director, turn msnbc hack, john brennan, also reportedly leaked the contents of the dossier to then senator harry reid. also john brennan was involved in this, he went public with the information. of course, also the director of national intelligence, james clapper, brennan was talking about it before. copper allegedly leaked it to cnn, fake news. let's not forget the major world of only dossier played with the fisa warrant application against trump. the trump campaign associate carter page, during and after the campaign, forgo separate warrants, the bulk of information coming from the phony russian dossier that hillary paid for. where's the investigation into this collusion? mr. mueller, where are you? the clinton campaign paid a c former spy and used russian lies to lie to the american people, steal an election, get a warrant to spy on americans, using an unverified, uncorroborated hillary clinton bought and paid for political

for example, there is something really important, if you have the information that you have with bruce ohr at the heart of this, because his wife was working for fusion gps. that information, he knew that christopher steele did not like trump and did not want trump to win.n. the fbi had that. >> sean: and put it together. >> that's right. >> sean: what you did is to help this democratic republic survive, i actually worry about this abuse of power, i worry about a corrupt media, we are not going to stop on thiser program. thank you for all you have done mr. chairman.ia thank you. when we come back we have breaking news, the cohen-trump audio is out.k i will give you a hint. a huge dud. thud dud straight ahead. ♪ ♪ >> sean: this is a fox news alert. michael cohen's recording of donald trump was never made public, this would obtained by cnn, given to them by cohen's attorney, fox news has not verified the tape. here's a clip, take a lesson. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. i'm going to do that right away. i have spoken to alan abo

he was relentless in pushing to find out about his role with the dossier and what bruce ohr's role wasourse he is with the fbi and his wife worked for the group that got the dossier to begin with. so let's listen to this exchange. >> are there three copies of the dossier as evidence as you said an email? >> the buzz feet copy, the mccain copy and the when you got. >> we have received a variety of copies. >> when agent strzok won't answer fundamental questions like the guy he references in an email company won't tell me where they are, it's unbelievable. >> he cowrote russian roulette and then you have some sin from fusion gps. so how significant is it that those names turn out and in fbi investigation email? >> it's very important. if anyone deserves a medal today it was jim jordan for relentlessly pursuing this. so much so -- the fbi was advising mr. struct not to answer any questions but jordan was hitting this so hard that even the council backed down in the end and gave strzok position to provide modest information. what he did give was important and now we have more questions abou

rosenstein signed the third renewal which was based on the dossier which we know, parts of it came from bruce ohr and his wife nellie. the whole ordeal. we are tired of the justice department giving us the finger and not giving us the information we are entitled to do to do our constitutional duty of the american people are sick of it. >> laura: going to ask you about what house leadership, including outgoing house speaker paul ryan is saying about all this. gregg jarrett, i want to go to you. gregg, this is what happened on capitol hill just recently when congressman jordan was trying to question rod rosenstein. let's watch. >> mr. rosenstein, why are you keeping information from congress? >> congressman, i am not giving any information from congress. >> i think the house of representatives is going to say something different. >> i don't agree with you, congressman. i don't believe that's what they're going to say. >> laura: no love lost between the republicans on capitol hill and rosenstein. gregg, what is going on? do you think this idea of an impeachment vote if they can get one is a good ide

e learned that the fusion gps dossier was given to bruce ohr.he >> it came up in jim jordan's shead. >> it not contradicted by strzok. >> look, we're running out of time here. it didn't -- he was told what he couldn't say by the fbi, hugh. >>i we'll out in the end how it all came together. but one investigation. i ask everyone to wait on everything until the d. >> that's all for today. thanks for watcherg. and rememb, if it's sunday it's "meet the press." >> you can see and "postgame" sponsored by boeing on the "meet the press" facebook page. z2vpbz z16fz y2vpby y16fy >>> breaking news, one-on-one win helsinki president trump and vladimir putin preparing to meet face-to-face amid escalating tension between the u.s. and russia. t're live with w to expect from this morning's summit. >>> the light at the end of the tunnelhe when will t boys rescued from the flooded thai cave last weeke finally leave hospital? >>> king of the grill. where you can find the best burger in america according to the experts at trip advisor. >>> and the best deals of amaz

. >> we learned that the fusion gps dossier was given to bruce ohr.he question. >> it came up in jim jordan's head. >> it was not contradicted by strzok. >> look, we're running out of time here. it didn't -- he was told what he couldn't say by the fbi, hugh. >> we'll find out in the end how it all came together. but one investigation. i ask everyone to wait on everything until the end. >> that's all for today. thanks for watching. and remember, if it's sunday it's "meet the press." >> you can see more "end game" and "postgame" sponsored by boeing on the "meet the press" facebook page.

. >> we learned that the fusion gps dossier was given to bruce ohr. question. >> it came up in jim jordan's head. >> it was not contradicted by strzok. >> look, we're running out of time here. it didn't -- he was told what he couldn't say by the fbi, hugh. >> we'll find out in the end how it all came together. but one investigation. i ask everyone to wait on everything until the end. >> that's all for today. thanks for watching. and remember, if it's sunday it's "meet the press." >> you can see more "end game" and "postgame" sponsored by boeing on the "meet the press" facebook page. . >>> this week return ship, encouraging those who have been out of the workforce to come back. pl plus, howie lieu from the start table and a silicon pine near tries to right the news. can he convince our report snerds those reporters are mit technology reviews rachel mets and joe mann from reuters in the this week on press here. >> good morning,

this is the first time the fbi admitted this that they were getting parts of the dossier from bruce ohr at the justifiable department who oh by the way wife worked for fusion who was being paid by the clinton campaign. now, you cannot -- that is what is so bad about this. the fact that a top ranking justice official whose wife is working for the democrat paid opposition research form is giving information to the fbi and that becomes to the fbi and that becomes the basis that you take to the fisa court to start this the fisa court to start this whole affair and did you go to the court and don't tell the court who paid for it and don't tell the court the guy who wrote the whole thing christopher steele leaking information to the press. now we are looking at tweets the president did and somehow that's a problem? this is crazy. brian: i have to ask you something about being speaker. we know the freedom caucus is very conservative. if you are going to be a successful speaker, you have to get people in your own party maybe even dare i say the other party who don't necessarily have the same do

you had bruce ohr, the number four at the department of justice.where why are now is look, i have never been one to give dates on when this thing wraps up, but i will say this, it needs to wrap up for the good of the country. we need to get this behind us. as rudy giuliani said yesterday, which was rather i know it got at love attention but quite unremarkable. collusion is not a crime. no evidence of any of collusion here involving our client and the russians. let's make that factual statement for the record here. we have seen nothing in the millions literally 1.4 million documents that have been sent over by the white house and many more that have been sent over by the campaign that indicates any russian involvement with the trump campaign especially the president of the united states goes or other people. collusion isn't a crime that was twisted out of context. all the men tator commentators s rudy giuliani is correct collusion is not a crime. not technically. it is not a violation of any rule statute or regulation that we have seen after reviewi

how conflicted bruce ohr was working for simpson. >> i think it's hard to make sense of the claims anderclaims it is interesting. devin nunes has come under withering assault. i think he has done excellent work. he wants to declassify the redacted parts. it's interesting who wants to keep this stuff hidden. brian: who is? and that is the people that did the investigating and did the presenting. they should be proud. >> adam schiff, all these people. we should be pushing, look, one thing i don't understand is why donald trump doesn't just declassify all of it so we can see for ourselves what happened. it would be a lot better than going after security clearances. let's see what these people are up to in 2016. brian: application put together didn't you list that this person might have had an ax to grind against donald trump? yeah. but how is it emphasized? how is it presented? page 14 you bring up this person who did this thing might have something against candidate number one donald trump and it was christopher steele. >> right. i think that when you are getting information about this,