in the article, which i have always said that it was not brzezinski's idea, he simply told his colleagues in civilian life in this way. could overthrow the government of ukraine, which was against nato expansion and which wanted ukraine to remain neutral, because that president understood that being a country between the west and the east, they had to be as quiet as a mouse, as low as a feather, and remain neutral, he understood that, so we overthrew him. that's when the war started . it was obvious that any scenario would eventually lead to a nightmare. ironically, the scenario that is unfolding now, where russia wins the war, is the safest one, because if russia were to lose the war, we would be facing the threat of a nuclear war. and all those experts who say, "yeah, no "i am genuinely outraged by the ignorance of these people, i am not usually outraged by people's ignorance, i am trying to help, but i am outraged by the ignorance that is putting my grandchildren in danger, they are putting my grandchildren in danger when they say: don't worry about a nuclear war, it's all bullshit, an

will be thoroughly undermined, including in ukraine, they have long carried around the meaning of brzezinski. that ukraine is a kind of geostrategic center and without ukraine russia is not a great eurasian empire. therefore, when we talk about peacefulness, and i as a sovereign. the truth that was passed on to us by the ancients, by the self-savior parabellus, if you want peace, prepare for war, in this connection, of course, arises the question of the synchronicity of our foreign policy, i also think it will be interesting to compare the two visits, because at the beginning of june our president was in ulaanbaatar, yes, he met with the leader of mongolia, who called this visit historic, now the president is there... order, i will not talk about class, but order, discipline, dignity, the right of the world majority, it will simply turn out to be higher than these mercantile considerations, order that everyone is fed up with , then i think that we have every chance, when the elders from washington have been parasitizing for centuries on the resources of the planet dominican republic arrested

as such a diamond of american geopolitics , the cherry on the cake, we will see there sbigniew brzezinskifor example, also the former director of the cia james... it includes and what is most important, the moment of the foundation's creation: eighty -fourth year, reagan declared a crusade against russia, god, how familiar it is in at the present moment, the purpose of this fund was quite specific, it was aimed at working with potential defectors from the soviet union and the countries of the socialist camp, it was then , at the end of the socialist bloc , that the deputy head of romania's foreign intelligence service fled to the west, thanks to the actions of... this fund, the deputy head of romania's foreign intelligence service fled, such a very strong catch, in general , now, observing from a height the functioning of this organization for 40 years, i had an interesting thought: is it not whether sanda is his creature, given her very contradictory and very controversial statements, but this is, let's say, in the format of hypotheses, a version, yes, as for the elections in moldova, ho

dependence there is sufficient, serious enough, so in order to... to play this geopolitical game , brzezinskiid about chess in china, they like it more rough than that, there is no way without the chinese. by the way, what haris said about the poles of pennsylvania, and it is obvious that they will bet on the diaspora, the one who sympathizes with ukraine, or the one who is against russia, the ukrainian diaspora there, the polish diaspora in the states, this is of general importance for the pre-election campaign? and hayes did not so easily remember it, and when there were calls for american help with the republicans, we tried to work with friendly communities, and with poland, and with the baltic states, and with others, especially in such states as pennsylvania, since pennsylvania is one of the three states with the largest number of military orders for weapons that go to ukraine and, accordingly, are produced there. which is then placed in the warehouses of the pentagon, so this is a story that really works, there they even made such a detailed mapping by states and by districts, where wha

there is sufficient, serious enough, therefore, in order to play this geopolitical game there, brzezinskiut chess in china, they like chess more, there is no way without the chinese, but by the way, what haris spoke about the poles of pennsylvania, and it is obvious that they will bet on this... diaspora, the one who sympathizes with ukraine, or the one that is against russia, there is the ukrainian diaspora, the polish diaspora in the states, it is of general importance for the election campaign, very much, and hayes did not mention it so easily, and when there were challenges with american help with the republicans, we tried to work with friendly communities, and with poland, and with the baltic, and with others, especially in such states as pennsylvania, since pennsylvania is one of the three. where there are the most military orders for weapons that go to ukraine, and accordingly weapons are produced there, which are then replaced in the warehouse. pentagon, so this is a story that really works, they even did such a detailed mapping by states and by districts, something is happening,

it was all planned uh 2530 years ago by people like guys big new brzezinski paul, also with and all these people. and they just cannot learn to live and let live. they talk a lot about free market, free to free speech. but none of that is true, you know, they want a monopoly. they want the full spectrum dominance of the world. and they want to have their hands on the $72000000.00 of natural resources in russia. they don't want the telegraph, they don't want a chinese technology. you know, it's a fantasy world and they're not able to accept the emergence of the multiple world . and is this very delusional and dangerous, as you know? so in 2016, the us democratic democratic party accused russia of information warfare during the presidential election and it has continued to do so whenever donald trump is on the ballot. is this the strategy of the democrats? why can't they just simply be from yeah, because they don't have a good method. you know, certainly be add somebody. what is a gum a lot error. this is a plan to make us better. i don't have an answer. you know, she doesn't have a plan. a

special military operation is some kind of our ambitions, we wanted to go there and so on, here he is brzezinskiency, you know, intelligence is in all countries of the world, intelligence agencies that collect information, secret, we call it espionage, whatever you like, we have always had very strong intelligence, i'm not talking about the russian empire, it began to create russian intelligence there very late. century, but in soviet times, intelligence was very strong, and it was precisely on intelligence that attacks were carried out first of all after 1991, and so, thank you for saying that they methodically and purposefully destroyed it and almost destroyed it, almost, but can the cia be called intelligence at all in the classical version, this is well not from the very beginning, from the arrival, probably, it was in forty-seventh year trumann signed a decree. created, in fifty -third year allen dulles came to lead, that's about the time when the sru activity begins, the emphasis is placed on what, on terrorism abroad, the organization of coups, political assassinations, entire military op

and mika brzezinski, you know, tried to pull her backin the.this what the democrats i mean, they're just they just sayis wh, it's openly what mika says. oh, you mean vote them out? and she said, yeahhi, banish hi. gina knew exactly what she wasi. saying. she's a very smart woman. that was calculated. they're trying to create a hostile and violent environment. so somethingg toe a might or mat happen to donald trump. everybody knows that. now, jessica, don't think you should be talking about racism as a democrat becaust racimocrat be party wenr to keep your , your party afterh the civil war in which the democratic party losvil wart and during reconstruction, actually tried to prevent black people from voting. and then the klu klux cameg and along and started hanging black people to make a point and scare them outted hang of v. and then even today, when a black democrat even flirts oua the republican, they're called an uncle tom. so it's definitely appropriate for you to say that there's a faction of the republican party. the party freed the slave

joining us now, former reporter for "the wall street journal," matthew brzezinski. and moscow for the paper. and jonathan lemire has the first question for you. >> good morning. let's talk about this debate right now within the white house about these long-range weapons, whether to authorize their use for ukraine deep inside russia. first, tell us, why would this be such a difference for kyiv? why are they advocating for this so hard? >> well, good morning. the russians are basically hiding behind a roughly 150 mile limit beyond their borders, and they are using -- they're keeping command and control centers there, their airfields, and they are using these locations toimpunity, since ukre cannot hit them back. last friday, the british prime minister was in washington, d.c., and they had been telegraphed for quite a while now that biden would lift restrictions and allow the british at least, initially, to grant ukraine permission to use the storm shadow missiles to strike those very important and strategic assets. the russians completely freaked out, expelled a bunch

let's bring in former reporter for "the wall street journal," matthew brzezinski. we have evelyn, the former deputy assistant secretary of defense for ukraine and eurasia. matthew, interested to get your impression of neville chamberlain's speech there, saying any deal would have been a good deal, no matter how badly it went for ukraine. also says ukraine is gone. so many dead people. >> can't rebuild it. >> somehow overlooked the fact that over a million casualties have piled up in russia because of this war. >> well, i mean, i think donald trump is, frankly, delusional, if he thinks that he could have prevented this war. or that he even thinks he can stop it if he does somehow manage to get a second term in office. you know, right now, president zelenskyy is going to be meeting with joe biden later on today in the white house. he's going to bring biden a wish list of things that he needs to continue the fight. you know, while i've always gone on this show and said we have to give the ukrainians absolutely everything they need, i think that president biden would b

start every year, with the woman who guessed correctly, i think for the past seven seasons, mika brzezinskio is it going to be? >> don't yuck my yum. lions-chiefs. >> that's my pick, as well. the lions and chiefs. willie, what's your pick? >> i'm going to go chiefs, never bet against the chiefs to three-peat, and i'll go, blindly, shocker, the new york giants. under my guy. >> oh, no. >> come on. >> no. >> gunslinger. >> can we just someone over there right now? >> fast, commercial. >> i say that admitting that i have been looking at next year's draft board for quarterback, carson beck out of georgia. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> there is a sadness in willie's pick. >> there really is. vanderbilt pick. >> the characters in darkness on the edge of town. we're sad for him. let's move on to jonathan lemire. >> he's still working on it. >> your super bowl pick? >> i can be honest about how the patriots will be terrible this year. willie can't do that for the giants. i'll pick green bay. i think they're an up and coming team, part of the nfc. i'm desperate to pick anyone other than kansas city, but