international law that provide that when ukraine signed the corresponding agreement at the level of the budapest memorandumnd renounced the earlier memorandum and renounced the second arsenal of nuclear weapons, in this way it is all a fait accompli . and this there is an active budapest memorandum and this was confirmed by white clinton, who said that he considered responsibility because he was then responsible for signing it and he believes that this budapest memorandum is valid. we must also demand from france, which today says on the one hand that it supports ukraine and that it condemns the actions of russia, while on the other hand it tries to negotiate with the russian federation every time somewhere there, to talk about the achievement of some agreements. we must clearly to raise the question of compliance with the un charter, no negotiations that can truly serve only compliance with the un charter of our national legislation and international agreements, that is, there must be principles of law, sovereignty, inviolability the borders of the withdrawal of troops and then we can talk, but not in the

well, the third option for guaranteeing security is the budapest memorandum, which means nothing and is worth nothing. therefore, speaking of the israeli option, it is now offered , conditionally speaking, financing access to technologies and investments in our missile defense system. well, i understand that armed support, i.e. western-style weapons, mr. igor, yes, but in any case, i would like to win from our allies as much as possible, in particular , it is about aviation and long-range systems . like the same etekems and not only them. well, the question is not only the nomenclature , which warms the heart of any citizen of ukraine, but also about the number. well, i think that this is also an extremely important story, maybe we could share what could be strong side of our negotiating positions, that is, well, the key story is to fix the procedural membership of ukraine in nato as soon as possible and, accordingly, also take quantitatively, but we understand that there is, for example, the position of france, which is regularly voiced, and the position of germany , the position of

little bit of their own nose, so that you have to pay for it well, even more so, there was a budapest memorandumstill have obligations, even though one of the participants in this memorandum violated it , you know right now about the budapest memorandum , somehow it is not necessary to talk about it it is a great pity that it remained a piece of paper, it is very sad that this happened, it is very sad that at that time we could not even imagine what could happen, it is very sad that we did not want to write down the mechanism for the implementation of this memorandum except for one point that it is necessary to gather a consultation but if someone doesn't want consultations, then they don't happen. so, unfortunately, this is only a political document without real practical content. it's also our mistake. well , you know about it now. it's easier to say than what happened then during very of tough negotiations when ukraine was pressured. what are the russians and the americans? well, at the end of our conversation, the last question for today , volodymyr, is the legislative basis of the treaty fr

well, even more so , the budapest memorandum was still an obligation to them at least one of the participantsf this memorandum and violated it correctly, well, you know, now we don't have to talk about the budapest memorandum, it uh, it remained a piece of paper uh, it's very sad that it happened like this, it's very sad that uh, at that time, uh, we couldn't even imagine what could happen is very sad that we did not want to write down the mechanism for implementing this memorandum except for one point that it is necessary to gather a consultation , but if someone does not want consultations, then they do not take place. so, it is a great pity that only a political document remained without of real practical content, this is also our mistake well, but uh, you know about it now, it's easier to talk about what uh, what happened then, uh , during very tough negotiations, when ukraine was pressured, what uh, what russians, what americans, well, and at the end of our conversation, the last question as of today, volodymyr, this father's legislative base was once a contractual basis from russia , wh

system of collective security cracked at least at the seams and ended in budapest with the budapest memorandums, in the 14th year. how to put it this way, the structures of supposedly global influence , such as the united nations, the un council, and any other countries that were guarantors of our territorial integrity, actually froze and untied putin's hands, and today we have the consequences of this of their unfreezing this is how i would call it the second moment, unfortunately the world is not ukrainian-centric and much more cynical than we can imagine, many countries replaced the word democratic values ​​with the word price , translating it into a monetary equivalent well for example, now there is a war, the russians are allegedly under sanctions, and india has already doubled there, how many times has the purchase of russian oil increased there, and i am earning quite a good dividend from this, and unfortunately , the world community looks at it and eats somewhere, this is how it looks in my eyes, i emphasize once again this is exactly what frees the aggressor even more hands to create

, which we concluded together with our renunciation of nuclear weapons, and the budapest memorandum did not include such guarantees, where it was clearly stated it is certain that on the first day, war is declared there and against the aggressor state. on the second day, a certain amount of weapons is supplied . on the third day, the next activity is gathered there. i don't know. the question of political will is to what extent other states are ready to take on such clear obligations that they cannot say that oh, we don't know if this is an armed conflict, oh, we don't know if this is an act of aggression. some polite people, as in 2014, individually said that everything is not so clear, but from a political point of view, of course, nato is more profitable because it has been organizing new mechanisms for more than half a century, they may be better, but there is a risk that they will not be concluded or the guarantees will not be clearly spelled out, so let's talk about another topic on the way to finding justice . we talk to you all the time about this. everyone who commits terror on

politics, it doesn’t even pull on the israeli model, of course, if they really resemble the budapest memorandum become and i remember that back in 2001 the year when sanctions against belarus were introduced, several asked the united states with a question. but there is also a memorandum of sanctions illegally on what the american embassy gave an official explanation, it still hangs, that the budapest memorandum, it turns out, does not carry and never had a binding character, that is, for the anglo-saxon civilization. it is extremely important whether it is documentary or not. here, too, they are ready to give any words, because words are worth nothing to give any promises to give any, in general, guarantees of support, while not fulfilling these guarantees in any case. if you suddenly have to, that is, now for everything , in fact, ukraine must play its game to end. well, from the point of view of western investors. all of a sudden, the investment will pay off. well, then, it’s clear that no one wants to take responsibility for being the reason why the nuclear button can be pressed. well, the

not give a lighter say from the point of view of international law when he himself hung the budapest memorandumning the documents and inheriting this document from russia therefore, despite the fact that the heads of african states are waving their heads affirmatively, they do not understand in spirit that they are simply being lied to, blindsided and so on from here to talk about the content of fure says, then, based on the point of view of international law, this is putting a ball in the eyes of the delegation to the whole world from here. this is another fact that the trip itself and all that is being done is designed only for one thing: to foist this information on uninformed, inexperienced people who do not understand what such international law, how are such documents put into effect, when they come into force, and whether they can come into force at all, and you know, i had to work in many structures to conduct a considerable number of negotiations, i know what are the projectors on which it is written top secret completely top secret only for official use and so on and so, just out of r

and what kind of missiles warheads, but since russia violated this budapest memorandum , i believe thate, as the west, would have the right to give ukraine nuclear warheads so that it can protect its independence. what kind of independence is sikorsky talking about celts, in fact, a completely different fuck on russia putin says this with all clarity, here in the course of this year's message of the elite, the west do not hide their goals to inflict russia as they say, this is a direct speech strategic defeat of russia what does this mean for us what is it? this means doing away with us once and for all, that is, they intend to transfer the local conflict to the phase of global confrontation. we are just like that . we understand this and we will respond accordingly, because in this case we are talking about the existence of our country. do away with us once and for all then see paragraph 17 of the nuclear doctrine of russia when the very existence of the state is threatened, and the threat is perceived. of course, they are leading the matter to our complete destruction, to the extermin

a very serious document, it is not a general word blah blah blah as it was said in to that budapest memorandum for example, i carefully read this defection, which is doomed by green and the united states and norway. i was simply fascinated , i'll tell you, and i would dream of having such a contract for ukraine, there are 30 articles written there, everything is written there , the places for storing weapons are written there, it's official the tail is provided for the stay of american troops there, there are four bases of the united states on the territory of norway, because it is extremely important, considering the northern flank of hnat, country a, and it is all written there , and in fact there is no such and such article as the fifth article of nato, but we understand that if there are four military bases on the territory of the country and there is extremely close cooperation, it is unlikely that the russian aggressor, which shares a common border with norway, will dare to violate this agreement. i think that now as diplomats, we need to concentrate on achieving membership in nato, beca

but since russia violated this budapest memorandum, i believe that we, as the west, would have the righto give ukraine nuclear warheads so that it can protect its independence. what kind of independence is this? and the kursk goal is actually spoken of, it’s a completely different fuck on russia. putin speaks about this with all clarity, but in the course of this year’s message or you don’t hide the west their goals to inflict russia as they say, it is a direct speech strategic defeat of russia what does this mean to us what is it? this means to end us once and for all, that is, they intend to transfer the local conflict to the phase of global confrontation. that's exactly what we are. we understand this and will react accordingly, because in this case we are talking about the existence of our country. do away with us once and for all then see point seventeen of russia's nuclear doctrine when the very the existence of the state, and realizing the threat they certainly lead the matter to our complete destruction to the extermination of russia as a phenomenon as a sovereign subject of worl

unfortunately, this jesus is such that there is at least one good thing that i understand that the budapest memorandumnot enough and it is impossible to have members between these poles, there is a large set of tools, but concretely no one yet knows well what is understanding and this consensus is understanding and which resolution is demonstrated from international institutions, including that these problems must be solved immediately in relation to the search for acceptable guarantees. otherwise, as everyone in nato understands, the president of ukraine , volodymyr zelenskyi, will not come to vilniauska themselves, then the question will arise, and why nato is doing what it can offer ukraine at this vilnius summit. well, we know that donato includes 31 countries and supposedly all are equal there, but there is an equal and informally we know more precisely how all the experts agree on this so that such a leadership role in nato is still the main one the united states of america is playing this game, and today the new york times wrote about the fact that the partners are allegedly pressuring joe bide

guarantees so that it doesn't happen again, god forbid, of course , the history with the so-called budapest memorandumwell, but the shuttle diplomacy continues, there are those or other statements from the side of president macron well, and not only from him , so let's do it in order so, the current phase of guarantees until the vilnius summit is a month away well, actually, let's talk about guarantees as an intermediate stage on the way to ukraine's membership in nato and we have a whole company ukraine in nato is the 33rd, that is , so that after sweden and versatile them in different capitals. they should be clear steps on the way to membership and not otherwise, for whatever reason. because unfortunately there is no political will and courage in the alliance to invite ukraine to the vilnius summit and provide a formal invitation to the clearing to send rumors a geopolitical signal that this with the invitation, nato brings ukraine's historic victory closer nato sees ukraine as a future equal member considering our contribution to the security of europe and the protection of democrats in the world

position, so of course we will not agree to any kind of back-and-forth, as was the case in the budapest memorandum. they can throw, let's hope that ours, let's say yes - the closest friends and allies are the baltic countries , poland, romania, they will be able to push the right language, the right formation of the wording so that it would be much more not just more than bucharest's but so that it would really be a signal well, plus, of course, we expect more specifics about these interim security guarantees, how will they differ from what we have now in the rammstein format, will it simply be the supply of weapons and by the way again and said that ukraine fights with foreign equipment and that in fact there is no ukrainian civil defense system. well, he was simply explaining that this demilitarization is progressing in good ways at the pace of uh, and of course he was wrong here, because we have become much more powerful and we know how to control these weapons, but partly he rules in the sense that we are extremely dependent on our western partners and we imagine that they will be more incline

noticed the need for guarantees of international security which , unlike in 1994, the budapest budapest memorandum is not just a piece of paper or not just a flash drive with an electronic text that guarantees have been provided to ukraine and everything is really over we are today in addition to talking about president zelenskyi's peace formula, the exit at the border in 1991 is the expulsion of all russian occupiers from our territories, we should also talk about international obligations. and i would i would also say that there should be demilitarization of the russian federation only under such conditions, and this is the first priority plan, it is probably incomplete, we can talk about the fact that there will be appropriate guarantees for our future safe existence, well , the european union, of course, i understand that, i apologize. good morning, father our that's why we have to talk about it, we have to talk about it if not well, not so drastically it is possible although why not about a certain whole zone on the borders of ukraine i mean the complete demilitarization of the russian region

, this is because we understand certain experience, in particular, we are talking about the budapest memorandum this experience, so to speak, i would not like to repeat these are completely different things, fortunately for the europeans, the morandum was a declaration, an important political signal, but not necessarily to some further binding element, they were not a guarantee, they were pollination regarding security of security guarantees, as we now say, which can be adopted at the e-e summit in vilnius, we are talking about the supply of specific weapons without restrictions that existed before well, let's say long-range e-e long-range missile and artillery special weapons are definitely e-e complete intelligence information , including in in real time and not with a delay of three days or for half a day as it happens or as it is in some cases now providing us with aviation and marine equipment, you said project 16 can be f 16 can being f18 is what it is details eh and not one squadron several squadrons eh we are talking about fifty at least eh aircrafts eh plus more eh aerodrome equipment

reminded us of the infamous schurensis er-e assurances, which, as you remember, stem from the budapest memorandumwhy the ukrainian delegation suggested using the word heratiz guarantees, this was done before things because in the west they also understand that the time has come to give firm legal guarantees of the security of ukraine in relation to the fulfillment of these guarantees, then here it is really necessary to carry out consultation negotiations and here two issues need to be resolved because these guarantees they have two components, first of all this is the question of who is the guarantor and who is the guarantor well, in this situation , it is important for us that the guarantors are the most powerful nato member states , the united states, first of all, great britain, and here it is very important that these are nuclear countries, that is , those that have nuclear weapons, because this how we we know today is the most significant restraining factor in international politics, secondly, we are talking about the specific content, what exactly is meant by guarantees, i.e., military-tec

strategic and not tactical, so of course we will not agree to any reassurances, as they were in the budapest memorandumre is something more effective, or they are unlikely to give up, let's hope that let's say yes - our closest friends and allies are the baltic countries, poland, romania, they will be able to push the correct language, the correct formation of the wording so that it would be much more no just more than bucharest and for it to really be a signal well and plus of course we expect more specifics regarding these interim security guarantees, how will they differ from what we have now in the rammstein format will it just be the supply of weapons and, by the way, again roads that's what he said that ukraine fights with foreign equipment, that in fact there is no ukrainian civil defense system. well, he was simply explaining that this demilitarization is a good idea and pace, and he is certainly wrong here, because since we have become much more powerful and we are able to use these weapons to manage, but he is partly right in the sense that we are extremely dependent on our western partners a

strategic and not tactical, so of course we will not agree to any reassurances as they were in the budapest memorandum, but is there anything more effective? it is unlikely that they can quit , let's hope that our, let's say so , our closest friends and allies are the baltic countries, poland, romania, they will be able to push through the right language, the right formation of the wording so that it would be much more not just more than the bucharest one but so that it would really be a signal well and plus of course we expect more specifics regarding these interim security guarantees, how will they differ from what we have now in the rammstein format is this there will simply be a supply of weapons, and by the way, again , this is the way he said that ukraine is fighting with foreign equipment, that in fact there is no ukrainian military-industrial complex. well, he was simply explaining that this demilitarization is a good way of an idea at a pace, and of course he is here was wrong because we have become much more powerful and we know how to manage these weapons, but he is partly right in the sens

what you said is that it will be assured, i think for a certain it is not enough because the budapest memorandum actually an assurance if lawrence from english is such a filler that someone will not do something, of course they this is enough and everyone understands that for a certain time now it is not enough what will be created in addition to such programs of individual programs from nato e.e. aid programs as from the organization there will also be a network of bilateral e.e. bilateral agreements and bilateral obligations you can say the creation of a network of instruments in politics and in the economy and in defense production. and actually in military and military cooperation, i think it will be a network of such collective, not so much collective as bilateral agreements which will allow us to quickly react to such an organization if something happens around ukraine that will simply force nato to react quickly what it will be i think it is still being discussed well we have heard about nato ukraine from the point of view of politics what is political will be a political tool that will f

the collapse of the 1994 budapest memorandum the failed 2008 nato bucharest summit were consistent steps addressing security issues ukraine is impossible, world stability from the upcoming vilnius summit, we expect maximum specifics in the style of anti-budapest. here is exactly what is needed. so this is the antipode of danilov and the entire ukrainian points, but while kiev officials are practicing eloquence on the battlefield, things are not going the way they would like, the ukrainian counteroffensive has already turned into a retreat in the west, they realized that they were betting on the wrong ones and about stormy stories changed to obituary. today ended the 23rd day of the ukrainian counter-offensive and guess guys. how does it go? yes, it's still bad, kiev has trained about 50 thousand soldiers and apparently has already lost about 20,000. how much longer can this go on? i can't even imagine that this counteroffensive could last longer than a couple of weeks, i don't understand, maybe they are hoping to make some big push. but then where should they go? i'm actually curious. wh

of strategic aviation from the beginning of the 90s , russia demanded well but in the west budapest memorandum disarmament ukraine gave russia eight tu-160 missile carriers, three tu 95 ms and half a thousand cruise missiles were thus calculated for gas the same situation was with tu-22m aircraft ukraine had after after the collapse of the soviet union, 58 aircraft were in service, and there were 22 aircraft, but from 2002 to 2006, they were actually at air bases in poltava, pryluky , and also in mykolaiv. 55 of these aircraft were scrapped. 423 x22 cruise missiles were also scrapped . planes that could still fly for years. viktor mykolayovych couldn't watch. i wrote a report on the release. i even looked at the division of these last planes that we had here, well , they were cut, they just weren't enough. i don't know how to have the courage or what to go, just to see how how that comrade is being hacked and chopped and military experts and a military pilot agree on one thing, if ukraine had managed to preserve at least a small part of long-range aviation, the war with russia would have unfol

why because china is a country that joined the "yazan" which were determined by the budapest memorandum, well, that is, there were parties to sign and there were countries that joined the relevant agreement, and china was one of them, and that well, this is a document that is much older than the events of 2013 , commitments without specific content, and we are talking about statements memorandums or shall we say declarations that are signed here and they do not become part of our national legislation or the legislation of china, they do not entail any obligations and as a result what we sign viktor fedorovich yanukovych what was signed in budapest as fixing the nuclear disarmament of ukraine, yes, it has already lost its relevance from the point of view of reality, and of course we can, and at the level of diplomacy, we appeal to china as a super-country and a super-power on planet earth, which is generally interested in peaceful coexistence , as a subject that can well, let's say, join the initiative related to the initiatives related to the support of ukraine, but china still proceeds

will change, the entire security system that was created that was in europe after the same budapest memorandumigned when the countries signed the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, in particular ukraine yes, if putin threatened everyone with war, if ukraine is supposed to restore its nuclear status, what he said should be the reaction of the west accordingly. yes, stop if you say that these should be the rules of the game. that american nuclear weapons can be in poland, be prepared for the fact that the systems that russia was afraid of, remember inside the czech republic and romania in the 2000s, when they were being installed, they were afraid to shout no. yes, it should appear on the border with ukraine and in ukraine in the future that is, we must become part of a single dome this is this and this issue must be raised and this is the reaction that should be to these actions. what should we expect from this and whether it can somehow speed up the transfer of attack aircraft and fighters and whether it can expand the spectrum in addition to the f-16 . are we talking about eu

western world, we understand that the un is a non-existent structure, we understand that the budapest memoranduming, something like a turk is more expensive to me because he is clean, but it was contaminated by this delusional with some guarantees and a whole nation, a whole state, was simply divorced on a white background, you can’t say that in a legal term, and what are they practically? it was simply that they divorced us, the western world, because they can have sex in russia, the nuclear power plant will explode, there will be something there , one day there m16, my god, how is it there in nine months, in 50 months, all this is a scam, after all, this budapest is repeated because we protect their asses - it's great everyone understands it's advanced countries measures yes , there's poland, britain - it's great here's others , somewhere else, they're all playing something games if and this and we are there russia we are not defeating they surround russia in containment and if somewhere there because you do not believe in our victory so what is all this to me i am saying such a prelude quite

aviation new front, but we need clear or do we not need the guarantees that we received under the budapest memorandum need clear, clear that in the event that nato understands that ukraine will become a member of nato in the future, and until that moment, we guarantee you the first, second, third fourth, i said what are the components of military, financial , humanitarian and some other things regarding the united states, i would like to return a little of our cooperation with the united states of america , in particular with the congress, we know that the elections practically there, the company has already started like this. this is official, but there are already some three preliminary conditional exit polls . who has what percentage of trump or biden or other candidates? and here i have a question: do you think that it is really as they declare and republicans, democrats, democrats, it is clear that nothing will depend on the elections, in the same way, in the 24th year , we receive aid, and this aid will go to ukraine until our victory, until peace , is it really so because we hear completely di

we had the budapest memorandum and there were leaders, prominent leaders, and what happened, well, wegave away the nuclear weapons. like modern civilised people, we did this, we made a choice, we gave away arsenal. well, ukraine was supposed to receive the protection for the sovereign territorial integrity of ukraine. ukraine has partially lost its territory, temporarily, but it's still lost as territories, we lost these people who are defending our country and that's temporarily. so are there any security guarantees except for nato? well, we need to think what this could be. we would like to have the guarantees of nato. and as long as we are not a member nation, we would like to have security guarantees. it would be favourable that it would be a clear signal that the security guarantees would stay but down my valid until ukrainejoins nature. that is would stay but down my valid until ukraine joins nature. that is the case. maybe you wanted a different answer, but that is the answer i can give you. mr answer, but that is the answer i can rive ou. ~ , . give you. mr president, i am her

russia but since russia violated this budapest memorandum, i think that we, as the west, would have thet it can defend its independence. what kind of independence is the sikorsky goal really talking about, it’s a completely different fuck in russia putin speaks about it with all clarity, but during the message of this year or is it the west do not hide their goals to inflict russia as they say, this is a direct speech strategic defeat russia what does this mean for us what is it? this means finishing with us once and for all, that is, they intend to transfer the local conflict to the phase of global confrontation. that's exactly what we are. this we understand and will react accordingly, because in this case we are talking about the existence of our country. do away with us once and for all then see paragraph 17 of the nuclear doctrine of russia when the very existence of the state is threatened, and realizing the threat they of course lead the matter to our complete destruction to the extermination of russia as a phenomenon as a sovereign subject of world history, as a civilization, th

they did not comply with the budapest memorandum. no. so, why should we continue it?tical nuclear weapons, in my opinion, six tactical divisions were deployed. i'd like it to be such slang, of course, yes. the most important thing to understand that tactical nuclear weapons are those that are used against enemy troops, not against settlements. yes, this is precisely in order to multiply by zero those groups that will be created for him and can invade our territory or invade our territory only for this, and these tactical weapons are being created for simple cities of peaceful civilians. they do absolutely no harm. why because they will not be used there, they are used precisely for groupings of troops, points, command and control etc. 16 oil division one of the main shock which is directed to belarus yes. gaitsinfrastructure, what are nuclear weapons? it allows means of aviation rocket artillery, how do you say this sixteenth mechanized division will help zero right? everything, basically? yes? agree. uh, well , glad that some understanding of him comes, uh, in europe

they did not comply with the budapest memorandum. no. okay, so what should we continue?my opinion, there were only tactical nuclear weapons, in my opinion, six divisions, tactical nuclear weapons were deployed - this is such a slang word, of course. yes. the most important thing to understand is that tactical nuclear weapons are what are used against enemy troops, not against settlements. yes, this is precisely in order to multiply by zero those groupings that will be created for him and can invade our territory or invade our territory just for this and this tactical weapon is created for simple cities of peaceful civilians. they do absolutely no harm. why because they will not be used there, they are used specifically for groupings of troops , control points, sixteenth fur. uh, one of the main shock divisions that is aimed at belarus, yes. gaytsy infrastructure, what is a nuclear weapon it allows the means of aviation rocket and artillery, how do you say this zero will help the sixteenth mechanized division. correct agree. well, i'm glad that some understanding of him c

compote that actually, well, will not really work, we have already seen this compote in budapest in the so-called memorandumat did it lead to? we see it today with our own eyes, so i think zelensky is right at some point, to move from diplomacy to tough talk, and ultimately put our red proportions, do you want us to be together, let's not want to, then talk about your fantasies, but without us, mr. volodymyr , i wanted to ask you about the bukhareian sami such took place in april 2008 18 in january, three officials, the president, the prime minister and the chairman of the verkhovna rada, signed a letter to the secretary general from hefer, which you, by the way, handed over , if i am not mistaken, from hefer, in which they asked to provide ukraine with an action plan regarding nato membership and then yulia tymoshenko, as far as i remember, wrote an amendment to this letter saying that ukraine can join nato only in the case of holding an all- ukrainian referendum, which should confirm this. we mention it because one way or another well, there must be some er certain causal non-consequential construction or

we have already seen this compote in budapest in the so-called memorandum. it led to this . today, we see with our own eyes some moments of transition to diplomacy a tough conversation and put in the end our red proportions do you want us to be together let's not want then talk about your fantasies but without us mr. volodymyr i wanted to ask you about the bukhareian sami such took place in april on january 18, 2008, three officials, the president, the prime minister, and the chairman of the verkhovna rada signed a letter to the secretary general from the hefeper, which you, by the way, handed over, if i am not mistaken, from the hefeper, in which they asked to provide ukraine with an action plan regarding membership in nato and then yulia tymoshenko as far as i i recall that i wrote an amendment to this letter saying that ukraine can join nato only if an all-ukrainian referendum is held to confirm this. let us remind you why bucharest failed to do so in the eighth year why are we mentioning this now because one way or another well, there must be some kind of causal-non-cons

was not covered by any er international obligations crimea of ​​the ill-fated budapest er protocol er or rather memorandumimply empty with a piece of paper and that's why we have the fact that today we have that terrible war , the ruins of victims, because we found ourselves outside the camp of nato, which proved to be the most effective defense organization in the history of mankind, because there were no analogues to this defense union well, in your opinion, should the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskiy go to the vinnytsia summit now? i will remind you that he said that if there is no clear understanding at the summit, when and how ukraine will be able to become a member of nato, then there is no point in going. i am the president i don't decide for him. it's hard for me to say whether he will go, but i think that if i were to go, i would go because, eh, you know, these insults are childish , eh, now is not the time to eh, at all, show eh. must be pragmatic about what happened and we must still continue cooperation with the alliance because this is an existential issue and the issue of the existen