we got a lot of land to park a lot of buses. that's why i'm wondering why our costs would be more expensive. thanks. >> i wanted to try to respond to your question about after school. we did try to look, provide you with some information about what, in terms of charging students family fees what it might -- i may point you to -- 16. so where -- this is looking at -- if we were to add a bus to support an after school program, so if we wanted to add a bus to our fleet to support after school -- to support a run from a bunch of schools to an after school program or to -- we couldn't cover the costs. we couldn't cover the costs of adding a bus by the fees collected from the students who ride that bus, even with 100%, all 63 students paying the maximum, you wouldn't cover the cost of a bus. that is just in terms of fees per student. that is not talking about if we were to charge fees to an institution. >> commissioner? >> i mean, that is -- i'm sure that is true, from a system-wide perspective. i want to challenge that assumption bec

that's the announcement you might start hearing coming from metro buses along several routes right here in dc. the unstuffed dc metro blog posted video this morning so we went out to find out what riders think of the plan that is supposed to avoid pedestrian accidents. >> the bus is turning. three or four blocks. >> reporter: calvin is already pretty familiar with that new caution message from some metro buses in north eastern dc. >> that's a good idea. >> can't hear that well. >> reporter: the washington metro transit authority says the shouting buses are part of a test program to help keep pedestrians safer when a bus turns the corner. >> the bus driver and the buses are more safe now that they got cameras on the outside of the bus. but the pedestrians now you have to look out for. >> reporter: so far out of 2500 bus drivers, only a rare few actually operate these buses. we saw this bus at an intersection. >> when they go across they don't know the bus is turning or going straight. that would help. >> reporter: riders say it is a welcome change. >> just have to recap. >> reporter: and

i don't know how many times i have missed buses because of this. >> i do not double park. it is not safe for our customers, and especially the visually impaired. anything could happen, and it is muni's policy not to double park. normally what i do, if i can safely go in behind, i pull in the zone, offload my customers, load the customers that are waiting for me. when the bus in front of the leaves, i will pull to the front for the customers that did not see me. >> sometimes, the bus pulls up, and there is stuff in my way because the boys -- bus has not pulled up right in front of me. i have to figure out how to get around or through. i have to navigate through all of that in order to get onto the bus. >> when i pick up a visually impaired customers, i like to pull up right in front of them, make sure nothing is in the way so they can walk right on the coach. >> okay, take one big step forward. >> when i drop off a visually impaired customers, make sure you do not pull up at the shelter. you want to give them a straight shot so they can go to the left or the right. you want

. >> metro transit is using a new device on some buses to try and increase pedestrian safety. >> thisteresting option you might not have heard before. we want to find out what the plan is to avoid pedestrian accidents. here is more. >> reporter: pedestrians, buses turning. >> >> reporter: he is already pretty familiar with that new caution message blaring from some metro buses in northeast dc. >> that is a good idea because a lot of people can hear that well. >> reporter: the washington metro transit authority says these shouts buses are part of a test program to keep pedestrians safer when the bus turns the corner. >> the pedestrians are the ones you have to look out for. out of 2500 bus drivers only a rare few actually operate a talking bus. this was at the intersection. >> when they go across, the bus is turning. they say it is a welcome change. >> you just have to be careful because the bus driver can't see anything. >> with buses screaming their way around acorner some pedestrians say you still have to stay out of their way. >> the transit authority says this is only a pilot prog

we worked to make sure there were more buses, signals, and the like, but when i became mayor, i had a little more leverage. here is just some of the things we have done just to highlight the point. we started with boating because there's no more principled thing there. in 2004, we made some progress, but just north of half of our polling places were accessible with accessible boating equipment. today, i'm proud to say, we are not 100%, but 95% of all the polling places now are accessible with voting machines that people can use in private, which is good. [applause] we then stop at the war memorial building because in 2004, we had this great transition plan you all worked on. it looked good in writing, but we have not implemented that plan. there was only a negligible amount of progress. today, six years later, 80% of that plan is now complete. all city offices that provide services are now made accessible. all museums are now accessible. 9% of our community health clinics are now accessible. 14 brand new branch libraries accessible. nine more that are in progress will be made accessib

, -- from 45 to 25 buses. is it possible that you will have greater efficiency between the routes and the numbers will not be dropping? >> this is a very good question. we have not done this effectively just yet, and wheat to not have the full understanding. we have 3300 people writing these -- and writing a -- riding these 44 buses. much of this depends on the bus routes, and which areas they are going to, from which schools, as well as the enrollment patterns. this is why we tried to get this out in january. >> the last question that i have is around this program that is predominantly focused on high schools and middle schools. if we see a greater utilization of muni and more children on buses or on streetcars, that have not traditionally been on this line, we have good communication. sfpd, to be mindful of these people, and be mindful of the experience as people change their habits. we would be happy to help connect you with us. i would like to say that carmen chu is interested and has hearings on this matt

. >> san francisco's buses and trains serve many riders who are blind or how low vision.muni is their lives line to get around. simple act of courtesy can help them access muni services safely. it is not just courtesy. it is the law. >> i used to take the 21 airlock. >> lot of times, when i would be waiting at the bus stop, the door would open and the driver would announce the bus line. >> 71. >> it is easier and preferable when a driver sees someone who is obviously visually impaired if they stop in front of me and say "this is the 71," "this is the seven." >> our buses are setup to announce the lines when we pull up. when i see a customer with a guide dog or cane, make sure i let them know what line i am. >> every time i get on the bus, i tell the driver where i need to get off, even if i think there digital voice system is going to announce that. just so they know in the event that it is not working. i would say a good amount of the time, i do get acknowledgment, actually. >> good morning. >> morning. is your announcements system working? >> i'm sorry, it is not. >> co

along with extra sam trend buses that are meeting both cal train and board at the millbrae station.f the user bart tickets for your cal train to get the give you free passage on the san trend buses that are meeting at no great station. the golden gate ferry added for action departures in they set up an early northbound configuration for the golden gate bridge. traffic is moving pretty well. here's a look at your ride out a san francisco. this is the fifth street on ramp to eastbound interstate 80 delay tell you it's not automobile traffic that's the problem this afternoon it's the public transit commute that stuff. getting here could be a prom because of all the heavy traffic that still is working its way out of the city's south of market. >> it's a gorgeous day out there today and temperatures continue to become mild to warm. a lot of '80s out there. '80s and not but come the same thing in concord, 82 in san jose even along the coastline it's on the warm side sinified in half moon bay, said the it in san francisco. tomorrow similar temperatures expected it the last day of this real

on the buses, the 17 bus is 45 minutes late.s before the old frederick because of construction. now back to tony pann. good morning. >> give yourself extra time today. we will check hd doppler in just a few minutes. first we say good morning to santer shot who is doing the thanksgiving theme once again at a turkey farm -- we signatory to sandra shaw. >> it is their last day of freedom. they are silent. they cannot say anything. we're at tom's turkey farm in reisterstown. what is up? what is going on? we're here at tom's turkey farm. >> we had a good growing year this year. we were hot early. they are big, fat, plump birds. >> the bigger the better? >> yes. >> what is the key to raising them? >> they need plenty of room to roam. fresh water, fresh feet daily. room to run. you can go to our website or call 410-526-6892 and place your order. >> you can find that information and our website, wbaltv.com. how many turkeys he did you have? >> we have about 3000 birds to process this year. we will do 1500 to more and another 1500 on fri

where the school buses are making three roundtrips per day. it means that you -- first of all, it assumes that elementary school times are staggered into three set different times. and that you will be able to alter the school's start times to accommodate the bus schedule and it also assumes that students will pay for the entire year opposed to just a semester so it is incredibly aggressive. and there are also the other costs to consider, which are the administrative costs associated with the program. we did want -- we thought that you might be interested in or ask about what we thought administrative costs might look like to administer this, so we did some really rough estimates and we think that it may be. -- approximately 120,000 per year. this this may be -- this is based on the paper system or a pip-collection system. we may -- we are looking at wanting to integrate this with our point of sale system but that might actually in the short-term require a larger investment because we may need to put the touch screens in each of the buses so w

we offer a fleet of 18 double-decker buses and school buses in san francisco. have done that for the last five years. i've done business with brian for, i think, 12 or 13 years, with matt west, s.f. electric. i think it's already been said. everyone is very supportive. i'd like to fully support the addition to golden gate park. president kim: thank you. >> brian. >> good afternoon, commissioners, i'm brian huber. a couple of people mentioned my name earlier. the park staff did a great job of covering our operations. first, i want to thank you for putting this r.f.d. out here. it's a great opportunity for my company and to have a new activity inside the park. and i want to thank everybody that worked on the 2008 pilot program. they did the hard work on this and we're going to get some of the benefits of that. we operated the last five years, we are very safety-focused, and i'd like to welcome anyone to come out on our tours. we started doing test tours in the park and we don't have our route down yet. we're still working on that. we're offering free tours, so co

, -- from 45 to 25 buses. is it possible that you will have greater efficiency between the routes and the numbers will not be dropping? >> this is a very good question. we have not done this effectively just yet, and wheat to not have the full understanding. we have 3300 people writing these -- and writing a -- riding these 44 buses.

buses 11 a diversion at charles due to construction and 20, 23 and 40 buses taking an eastbound diversion also construction related. for the nta transit team, i am mark jones. [ female announcer ] introducing splenda® no calorie sweetener granulated with fiber. sweet! [ female announcer ] tastes like sugar and has 3 grams of fiber per tablespoon. use it almost anywhere you use sugar. even in cooking and baking. sweet! [ female announcer ] splenda® granulated with fiber. we helped keep your skin clear. now we have a solution for wrinkles. neutrogena anti wrinkle with retinol sa smoothes even deep wrinkles. it works...beautifully. neutrogena. >>> new this morning a. florida man lands a whooper in the state's annual alligator harvest. robert a orlando area nurse who trapped gators as a hobby hauled in the record breaker. >> as a hobby. look what the hobby landed him. this gator is 14 feet, 3 1/2 inches long and weighs anybody want to give -- 65400 pound -- 654 pound. they caught it in the st. john's river. previous record was set what trapper caught a gator measuring 14 feet and 5/8 of an in

, -- from 45 to 25 buses. is it possible that you will have greater efficiency between the routes and the numbers will not be dropping? >> this is a very good question. we have not done this effectively just yet, and wheat to not have the full understanding. we have 3300 people writing these -- and writing a -- riding these 44 buses. much of this depends on the bus routes, and which areas they are going to, from which schools, as well as the enrollment patterns. this is why we tried to get this out in january. >> the last question that i have is nd

. >>> you've probably seen them, party buses, but dunne they're full on clubs on wheels?re talking dance floor, stereo system, flat screen tvs and tons of alcohol. they are all the rage for teens and 20-somethings. but with very little supervision, some say these buses are a road to nowhere. >> garth studebaker was a typical teenager. he was a rock star inside. >> he loves music. >> you're listening to one of the many songs the young musician recorded. >> everybody thought they were his best friend. >> he was always surrounded by friends. a treehouse in the front yard of the family's burlinggame home, the kids were always around. back in february, brett celebrated a friend's bir day on board a party boat. that same night, doug and susan studebaker were leaving on an airplane that night. >> he took us to the airport that night. >> he gave us a big hug and said i love you, and we knew he was on his way to the party bus with this girl, and we told him to have a good time. >> brett and his friends drank on the party bus for hours. according to the limo operator's web site, th

fans came down to the stadium not to wait on line to buy gear, but to wait for the players which run buses so they gathered around the entrance for the players' parking lot. they had their cameras drawn and again thousands of people packed 30 deep trying with all their might to put their hands up and get the shot of their players. many people and hear 6:00 a.m. but they said this is just too much to mess. they're going to stay here until the bitter end and get picture of the favorite player. reporting live from at&t park kate thompson kron 4 news. >> considering the huge number fans recorded in san francisco really not surprising that public transportation across the bay has been a little crowded. jonathan bloom shows us the lines at one bart stations >>. here in the bart stationed along the law and it's not this one to get to the fare gates it is this line over here which is the line to buy a bart ticket. giants fans to just watch the parade are now trying to buy part tickets one at a time summer that and more trouble than others but all of them are having to be very, very patient. this l

cameras catch cars speeding past stop school buses.in the wall is helping local drivers steer clear of any fines. >> i'm liz crenshaw. how long should you cook your thanksgiving turkey? that's the question. the >>> how long does it tea defrost a frozen turkey and what should do you wit the leftovers? a thanksgiving edition of "ask liz." how long does it tea defst a frozen turkey? >> no one wants a frozen birth. the u.s. department of agriculture has some tips. it says the safest way to defrost a turkey is in the frig. that will take 24 hours of defrosting for every four to five pounds of turkey. a 12 to 16 pound turkey, three to four days to defrost. go check your frozen bird and see if you need to move it into the frig this weekend. you can completely cover it in cold water putting it in a plastic bag or large bowl of this is faster. 30 minutes per pound of turkey. that means a 12 to 16 pound turkey will take six to eight hours. change the water every 30 minutes to keep it cold. >> now once it is defrosted, how long doest take to cook

this will reduce the buses at stockton street. money spent on this is needed city-wide to bring transfer is for everyone. the fact that there is no contact at all with minor subways is a problem. the third street rail really needs to go to the route that has now. >> thank you very much. anyone else in the public that would like to speak that has not spoken? good morning. >> good morning. i am a board of director for the telegraph hill directors in north beach. we are fully in support of savemuni.com and we are against this subway. we are against this subway. this is a horrible idea. this only supports anyone east of nob hill and russian hill from the longitudinal perspectives. what about the folks in the sun set? what about the folks in the outdoor arena? this is the largest funding for a public transportation project and it is onlyç 4 1/3 or 1/5 of the city to go north and south. the executive used some interesting language, saying that we are going after a prize. which is what makes it so right. it is very clear that even if th

this will reduce the buses at stockton street. money spent on this is needed city-wide to bring transfer is for everyone. the fact that there is no contact at all with minor subways is a problem. the third street rail really needs to go to the route that has now. >> thank you very much. anyone else in the public that would like to speak that has not spoken? good morning. >> good morning. i am a board of director for the telegraph hill directors in north beach. we are fully in support of savemuni.com and we are against this subway. we are against this subway. this is a horrible

now let's get the latest on the buses and the trains. that we go to kurt kronke of the mta system. >> a few delays on the buses. the eight and 52 buses are 15- minutes late. there is a diversion because of construction. light rail on time. metro subway and station. marc trains have on-time service on the penn, camden, and brunswick lines so far. now back to sandra shaw. >> we are tracking the event of a cold front that will be crossing the state to state. there's a line of showers. most will break apart as it crosses maryland. a slight chance that we'll get some rain this afternoon. we'll see an increase in clouds this afternoon. we remained mild. quite comfortable for this time of year. 51 downtown. 54 at the airport. 54 is our normal high today. we are already above that. 55 in annapolis. 55 in cambridge. 62 to 65 during the daytime hours. fog could develop then burn off later today. the record for today is 74 degrees. we will not break any records. 16 is the low set bacchant 1880. we will see a change. as the front crosses, we will dr

buses 20 and 30 buses diverting at old frederick due to construction. for the m.t.a. i'm kurt kroncke. back to tony pann. good morning, tony. >> good morning, everyone. a little bit of fog to start the day. not a big deal but keep it in mind. could affect the drive time a him bit. 48 at the airport, 46 in westminster and 45 in randallstown. fairly uniform temperatures. we could see low clouds thanks to the east wind that is developing. it will take a couple of hours to break up. this morning and early in the afternoon we will have sunshine to break that you. we could see rain on the other side of the mountains. those showers will catch up to us tomorrow afternoon and some snow in the northern plains. there is seriously cold air moving out of the southern part of canada. northern plains right now are below zero. two below in billings montana, a little bit of that air will slide in here after the holidays so this will be a roller coaster ride with the temperatures this week. today a mixture of clouds and sunshine. the clouds, fog and drizzle early this morning then suns

where the school buses are making three roundtrips per day. it

i am against seeing buses that have full chords across the front side seats. by have reported this numerous times. people standing up to leaned backwards to pull the cord. that is an injury hazard for those people i am legally protected class as up front. i reported it to the person newly hired the day after he came on as your director safety of training. i have said it to you. nothing happens. these buses go out without being inspected. it is a simple visual inspection. it is a simple task. i have seen jury rig chords strung together. it is not rocket science. it does not require a major purchase of material. it is a hazard for people that are holder of will and fragile. it could cost you lots of money. i keep saying it in public because i want people who are injured to know that you have not done your job in case they ever sued the city. >> next speaker. >> charles rathpone. >> we would like to applaud the agency for creating a temporary cap stand at third and king street. over the years we have had and his complaints from cabdrivers about how difficult it i

that treatment on the buses demonstrated they were not worthy of respect or of protection. this belief was part of a longstanding pattern that allowed white men to use and abuse black women for the better part of even the 20th century. when we consider this within the spectrum of racial and sexual violence with rape on one end and these daily indignities on the other, attacks on black women's body and integrity underscore both their physical and their sexual portability and a racial system, so it was a much easier not to mention for black women to just stop riding the buses than it was to bring their assailant often bus drivers and police officers, to justice. in fact, without these women, the bus boycott would have failed. african-american women in the day-to-day operation of the boycott. the everyday details. they stuffed the elaborate system that cast the boycott running. they raised most of the local money for the movement. they fill the majority of the views of the mass meetings where they testified publicly about physical and sexual abuse on the buses. bye walking hun

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we need better shuttle buses and more reliable transfers.ventually, muni needs to be free to ride. we need to think big. >> i definitely think we need to put public transit -- more effort into fixing the public transit system. we need to expand on what our vision of public transit is the cannot only be muni. -- it cannot only be muni. folks need to be able to move about without too much hassle to there are a great number of folks in district 10 that are disabled seniors who cannot use the bicycle. we have got to use other things. we need to increase shuttle services increase services for seniors and disabled. >> you can appreciate muni because a.c. transi is barely showing up at the bus stop. our buses carry 7000 people a day. imagine all of us getting on the bus. i do not agree with "cars last." it should be a happy medium in concentrated areas. in residential areas, i do not think it is a great policy for us, nor would i want my 71-year- old grandmother on the bus with people of all kinds. you really have to ride muni to understand what th

. >> is there plans in place to us taxis and buses to evacuate folks? >> buses, yes, the city currently uses muni as one of our partners for evacuating people in house fires. yes, there is a plan to use buses. we have not taxis are not part of the city's plan. but there's not any reason they couldn't be. taxi commission is next door to my office. i will see if they want to partner with us. >> anyone else want to add anything? >> for san francisco is there a map that identifies shelters and nert and red crosses locations with emergency services. >> we have a map of the city that shows all the shelters. on the nert website you can see where all the nert staging areas are. and those are nert staging areas are out door spaces. those areas will not have to be inspected before we start setting up services there. or nert sets up services. the shelters have to be inspected. we have to stock them with cots and water and medical supplies and staff. that information is -- >> i wanted to remind you that the nert staging area is your neighbor's helping each other. a

numbers 1, 8 and 30 buses about 15 to 20 minutes late. 15 and 51 buses about 25 to 30 minutes behind. and heavy volume of pest jers on 64 bus line moving about and travel. for the mta transit team, i am mark jones. >>> it's 5:38a wedding mix of the last-minute could have been devastated. >> hard to imagine but one colorado bride decided to make a special occasion for others instead. john romero has the story. >> reporter: saturday night was supposed to be a joyous night for the family. the wedding of their youngest daughter. it never happened. with few option on what to do about the wedding, the broken bride had an idea. >> she is a super giving young lady, and when it was apparent we weren't going to be able to do anything else she said you know, dad, i want to feed the less fortunate. >> reporter: on less than a day notice, the family came together with the salvation army and a bus line to bring an early holiday feast to those in need. >> it's about a warm meal on a really cold night, and hopefully it makes for a nice november and kick off to the holiday season. >> being colorado sp

what is the best way and schedule for, say, the buses to get to serve as many people with as few buses as possible? >> in hungary, your home country, mathematics, the study, is extremely popular, and many renowned mathematicians have come from there. what's the particular reason behind this, do you think? >> i think it's mostly education and a system for looking for talented young people and then having some special programs for them. >> how young students can find interest in math, can find enjoyment in math? >> mathematical way of thinking is not that far from activities that the students love to do. for example, playing chess or go or solving puzzles, sudoku puzzles. this is all math, or very close to math. so i think the education should build on these interests. >> where do you find the most enjoyment, enjoyable aspect of this subject? >> mathematics is all about harmony. it's all about different thoughts, different ideas, and you try to fit them together. it's really like solving a puzzle. it's a kind of revelation or peace or something. >> for me it's almost like a headache. >>