bush. we'll have question and answer afterwards and what i want to ask everyone because c-span is filming tonight, please use the microphones that we will place -- i think one right there and one over to the side there. that's so your question doesn't get lost on c-span. i want to welcome all of you and let you know how much we appreciate you all being here tonight, especially knowing that the democratic party has done a little bit of counter programming. [ laughter ] of course, we've got another 15 months-plus to get our fill or probably more than our fill of 2020 presidential campaigning. here we're going to take a few moments to remember a man who won it in 1988, a president who, it seemed, the longer he lived the more loved and appreciated he became. i was struck like many others, i think, by the national outpouring of respect and affection in the days leading up to and through the funeral of george herbert walker bush last november. and the funeral of his barbara, a little more than se

bush. we will have question and answer afterwards, and what i want to ask everyone, because c-span is filming tonight, please use the microphones that we will place, one right there, and one over to the side there, and that's so the question doesn't get lost on c-span. i want to welcome all of you and let you know how much we appreciate you all being here tonight, especially knowing that the democratic party has done a bit of counter programming. we have another 15 months plus to get our fell, -- here we are going to take a few moments to remember a man who won it in 1988, president who it seemed, the longer he lived, the more loved and appreciated he became. i was struck by the outpouring of respect and affection in the days leading up to the funeral of george herbert walker bush last november. the funeral of his wife barbara was seven months earlier. former president al gore said bush 41, gore said he served the nation with extraordinary integrity and grace, unquote. [applause] [applause]

bush and president george w. bush.ald reagan was kind of like my grandfather, and i used to disagree with him but i always felt guilty so i didn't really disagree with him very much. george h.w. bush was like my dad and i disagreed with my dad and i would tell him i disagree with him and then i would feel really guilty and work really hard to make up for disagreeing with him. george w. bush was like my brother. hah! what are you thinking? what are you thinking! it was great conversation. so the context is very different. i did find president reagan could translate complicated things into simple ways to understand them. he was a great communicator. even as we discussed tough issues in the oval office. george h.w. bush was a phenomenally respectful listener, and he invited everyone to speak candidly and he would look at you and listen and listen and listen and digest, and then meet with governor sununu, brent scowcroft and form his opinion. george w. bush was very disciplined as a decision maker. he was the first preside

bush and george w. bush.ey all had a structure in the white house that allowed for policies to be investigated before they were imposed. and a process is critically important. policy is really easy to make up. i guarantee all of you make up policy every day. and think it should be implemented and there's white house staffers that are all smart and they think they've got the right policy. but governor sununu had a phenomenal person by the name of roger porter who worked in domestic policy and economic policy but governor sununu put in place a really good process for policy to be discussed. and i was fortunate to be part of that. and so policies would come in, someone would have to take the role of how do we implement it? who will be impacted by it? who won't be impacted by it but thinks it's a good idea and will help us get it done? what are the consequences of implementing it? what if it doesn't go right? and so we had a good discussion. it was a process around the policy so that policy wasn't defined all of

bush library. i want to also direct your attention to a major event we had on december 7th, when peter baker of the new york times will be a guest to talk about his book obama the call of history. we are also happy to tell you that the dude a trip for june 2018 is fully subscribed, but we are taking names for 2019 already, and you may also note we have established a dedicated scholarship fund for this program so that no student could miss a chance to take this journey, because of financial need. it is hard to believe it is five years since he joined us in 2012, given his many accomplishments of experience he gained on the george h. w. bush school of government and texas a&m. i must say, it was almost as if he had been waiting for our call. and we really locked out. jeff is not just an outstanding scholar and an outstanding teacher. he is an outstanding citizen of this university. the center for presidential history is the chief, though not sole, reason why this is so. but the center was really enti

bush museum. we really lucked out. he is not just a outstanding scholar and teacher, but a outstanding citizen of this university. the center for presidential history is the chief, but not the sole reason why this is so. but the center was really entirely his idea. and among many other things along with this enormously popular speaker series, which features the very best authors, in cooperation with the george w. bush library, he has organized extremely important projects and he set in motion a highly competitive post doctoral es is a. he has now become a highly coveted nationally recognized award. just a couple of other things very breer that you may not know about him. as an apyring scholar, he got his start as an under graduate at gor nel that he worked with walter. in my opinion he is one of the four or five greatest historians of the 20th century and jeff's initial mentor. then it was off to the university of wisconsin for the ph.d working with tom mccormick ç cold war. then his doctorate "the cold war at 30,000 f

but bush knew this history. bush had grown up playing golf with eisenhower.avorite golfing buddy, because he was one of the people who would not let eisenhower win or cheat. and he understood that when people were in the streets he had a fundamental responsibility to make sure he did not do anything to excite violence, to incite violence, if you will. and yet he saw violence occur at tiananmen, giving him a fundamental problem, which is that he knew his words could reverberate. but also a fundamental problem of what to do in response. and here he falls back, if you will, on first principles, which is to say he still believed in free markets. he still believed in freedom. he still believed that the inexhaustible spirit of students for freedom which had been generated by engagement with the west will continue to move on so long as we continue to allow them to engage the west. when other countries around the world called for bush to isolate china, remove trade relations with china, remove diplomatic relations with china, bush, even though he was pilloried in the

but bush knew this history, bush actually had grown up playing golf with eisenhower. largely because he was perhaps the only person that would not let eisenhower win or cheat. he understood that when people in the streets, he had a responsibility to make sure he did not do anything to excite violence, to incite violence if you will and yet he saw violence occur at tiananmen giving him a fundamental problem which is he knew his words could reverberate, but also a problem of what to do in response. here he falls back on first principles which is to say, he still believed in free markets, he still believed in freedom, still believed that the inexhaustible spirits of those students for freedom which had been generated by engagement with the west would continue to move on so long as we continued to allow them to engage the west. when other countries around the world called for bush to isolate china, cut off trade with china, remove trade relations with china, bush even though he was pilloried in the polls for doing so argued instead that we should try to reengage. of cours

president bush was trail blazer.his 30 year career with the service culminated into this and 15 when president obama named joe the 24th director of the u.s. secret service. so he was in charge. today joe is the chief security officer encompassed corporation. nick served 30 years and secret service. helped protect five presidents including president bush. worked on large-scale events such as world leaders summits, he did a lot of post 9/11 travel with president bush, including secret trips to iraq and afghanistan that you will hear about tonight. and if nick looks familiar, you may have seen him in a documentary or two talking about being on the field at yankees stadium as -- pushed throughout the first pitch before game three of the 2001 world series. what a moment. also pleased to have us tonight is the moderator, spencer geisinger, the former deputy assistant to the president for operations and events in the white house under president bush. in that role, spencer oversaw the integration of dozens of military securi

bush was tempo. his 30-year career with the service culminated in 2013 when president obama named joe the 24th director of the secret service so he was in charge. today joe is the chief security officer at comcast corporation. nick trata is with us. nick served 30 years in the secret service. helped protect five presidents including president trump. worked on large-scale events such as world leader summits and post 9/11 they traveled with president bush including secret trips from iraq and afghanistan that you'll hear tonight. if nick looks familiar, you talk about being on the field at yankee stadium as president trump threw out the first pitch before game three of the 2001 world series, what a moment. also pleased to have us as moderator, the former deputy assistant to the president for operations and advance at the white house under president bush and in that roll spence oversaw the integration of dozens of military you are skecurity and operational agencies all involved in presidential travel inc

bush presidential library and museum provided this video. >> -- pres. bush: mr. president and mr. speaker and members of the united states congress, i come to this house of the people to speak to you and all americans, certain that we stand at a defining hour. halfway around the world, we are engaged in a great struggle in sk

bush a liar about the iraq war. that may explain why neither president, second president bush nor his father was supporting mr. trump for president in 2016. kind of understandable in those circumstances. but for republican voters, once he was in office, donald trump got 90% support even though he had gotten less than half the primary popular votes in primaries and caucuses in the 2016. nobody ran against him in the republican primaries in 2020 even though various people were advertising themselves as never trumpers. i think the interesting question is whether or not republican voters are going to discard president trump. in effect, they seem to discard president bush's after they were gone, as they discarded most of their former presidents and historic heroes. they don't seem to have much sentimental regard for them. you hear them talking sometimes about abraham lincoln, but of course, the policy lessons lincoln gives us from dealing with the issues of his time are not always very helpful, relevant to the issues now

the first is that, president clinton and president bush 43, the second president bush, both had something of a wilsonian woodrow wilson stripe in them in that they thought the united states should use its power to bring democracy and improve the lives to people around the world. and president clinton tried it in somalia, and to a certain degree in haiti, and those were both failures. lessons that should've been learned by the bush ministration. and after the initial military successes in iraq and afghanistan, the bush ministration tried to do the same thing in terms of bringing a better life, bringing democracy and modern governments to both countries. and that was the problem. in the argument that i make in the book is that we had at the end of the cold war dismantled most of the nonmilitary instruments of power that the country helped. weather was diplomacy or the agency for international development, and the 1990s the united states information agency was totally dismantled. and so, all of these nonmilitary capabilities shrink almost to insignificance at the same time we continue to hav

bush a liar that may explain why when he was alive we were supporting mr. trump president 2016 that is understandable on the circumstancess. but donald trump got 90 percent support even though he got less than half the primary popular votes nobody ran against him in the republican primary in 2020 even they were advertising themselves as never campers but the interesting question is whether or not republican voters will discard president trump because in effect theyid seem to disregard president bush's after they are gone with the former president and historicor euros. you don't have much m sentimental guard those policy issues are not always very helpful we don't have a civil war and they tend to have solidarity and we pretty see in the polls president trump plummeting and there are mixed results but there is a showing his positive job of going down at 29 percent that's in the very narrow range and voters generally between the 2 percent or 46 or 47 percent during the fall term in office and then that is among the others that we have seen we've seen from rep

commissioner bush, go ahead please. >> commissioner bush: thank you. i want to add for future meetings, some discussion on transparency and accountability. there's a provision in the government code that requires city officials to disclose relationships including serving as unpaid board members of organizations if they are regularly in touch with people who are come before their commission. i don't know where those things are filed other than i know that the law says that there's a form and it has to be disclosed. i think i forward a copy of that to chair ambrose. i like to put on the agenda, where are the places that information like is disclosed? i don't see it on ethics? that's number one. secondly, how are areas -- [indiscernible] disclosed. something does that is it disclosed publicly? as far as i can learn, it's not the disclosed publicly. it's something that goes back and forth between the department head and the individual. if that's the current situation, do we want to examine whether that should be opened up to greater transparency to the pub

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president bush, bush 43, i got off on the wrong foot with. i strongly supported john mccain in the primaries. i remember debating karl rove on television shows, it got pretty heated at times. so when george bush became president, i figured i was definitely the guy in the back seat being ignored. then tragically, we had 9/11. that is when i really started to work with president bush. i formed a close working relationship with him. i was up in new york with him and 9/11 families so many times, we had 9/11 families down to the white house to meet with him. he turned out to be an extremely good friend. and to this day, we still have contact. when i announced i was not running, i got a long, beautifully handwritten letter from president bush. and also, we keep in touch. unfortunately, it is a sad way. so many of the 9/11 victims that he came to know, if one of them passes away, i will call his office. and he always calls the family or sends a note. i guess it was about two years ago he spoke at cw post college. we had a chance to meet with him bef

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bush.et that call and did you really want to go back into government and deal with the mess you had to inherit? >> so january 2005 the white house reached out right after president bush had been reelected to see if i would become the first director of national intelligence, and a really wrestled with that decision and ultimately turned it down. i told my wife the good news was that the bush administration would never ever asked me to do anything ever again because i think they thought i would take that job. so i was stunned when i got the call. unlike the dni, director of national intelligence offer, i remember vividly the national security adviser stephen hadley called me on the weekend when i was president of texas a&m. he said if the president asked you to become the secretary of defense would you do it? and really there was any hesitation at all. i said steve, with all these young men and women after doing their duty and fighting and dying on how can i not give mine? of course i will do

reagan and barbara bush and laura bush, you know, providing that sort of family life in the white houseght or your friends are invited, you know, making things normal for you as much as possible, that's an important function, that sanctuary of your home, you know, because you're living above the store, the job never really leaves you, and finding times, you know, of levity and of fun. that is really important, and there's no one person who cares about that more for the president than the president's spouse. so that is something, of course, she's going to keep an eye on. and i think we already know that about her. she is, as i said, a fierce protector of his. >> she is. we saw it when president biden was leaving delaware and he said jill told me not to cry. >> it's hard not to cry. and the two times i've seen them last year even in the pandemic, she would pull him away from people who didn't have a mask on, she would pull him away and say, you know, stop the interviews -- >> or if she didn't like the answer, she would try to steer it to another way. >> yes. but, anita, i'm curious, what

and george bush is from new england or texas. he has, you know, less ties to new england than he does to any prep school -- >> you mean iowa. >> iowa, yeah. less ties to iowa than any prep school in new england. and so he beats reagan. and this is -- that night tom pettit of nbc goes on national television and says we have just witnessed the political funeral of ronald reagan. reagan is out. that's it. and five weeks later he scores an enormous comeback in the new hampshire primary. and we all remember the debate, the famous national debate, i'm paying for this microphone, mr. green, even though his name was breen, reagan said green. and that begins -- that starts the beginning of his comeback against bush. but he goes to detroit. the party still divided and so he needs to pick bush to unify the party as they always have. nixon picks lodge. eisenhower picks nixon. nixon picks agnew, in order to unify the party. that was the ticket splitting that both parties practiced to perfection in the '40s, '50s and '60s and into the '70s and

bush and mrs. laura bush. >> george w. bush and laura bush. jamie gangel, what are you learning?laughing as i watch them come down. you may recall, that even though he's a republican, former president bush did not vote for donald trump in 2016. he left it blank. i think it's pretty fair to guess he did not vote for him in 2020 either, but what a difference four years make when, at the last inauguration, president bush was famously quoted after hearing donald trump's inauguration speech, the carnage speech as saying that was weird s-h. you can fill in the rest. this is a small club, these former presidents. they are very, very close. they talk to each other. they organize. donald trump is not going to be a part of this group. >> there you see the supreme court justices led by chief justice of the united states john roberts walking in as well. they will be introduced after former president barack obama and michelle obama are introduced. they've got a real specific agenda. listen to this. >> ladies and gentlemen, the 44th president of the united states, the honorable bar ack h obama

bush delivers his 1991 state of the union address to a joint session of congress.about two weeks earlier he announced the start of operation desert storm military drive sad hussein from neighbors kuwait. the miller center and george h.w. bush presidential library and museum provided this video. >> mr. president and mr. speaker. members of the united states congress i come to this house of the people to speak to you and to all americans. certain that we stand at a defining hour. halfway around the world we are

bush, 20 years ago.it is hard to believe it was 20 years ago, but here is george bush on january 20 of 2001. i went to play this clip and then i'm going to ask and move right into his second inaugural. the first one took place before anyone had conceived of 9/11, and i went to have you compare the tone of the two speeches just four years apart. let's listen to george w. bush's first inaugural and that we will take a break and come back and listen to his second inaugural. [video clip] president bush: the peaceful transfer of authority is rare in history, but common to our country. where we start new beginnings. i think president clinton for -- i think -- i thank president clinton for his service to our nation. [applause] and i thank vice president gore for his contests conducted with spirit ended with grace. [applause] the ambitions of some americans -- sometimes it seems we share continent, but not a country. we do not accept this, and we will not allow it. our unity, our union is the serious work of lea

bush said i want my second inaugural to be my freedom speech. used the word freedom 27 times in that speech. what is your reaction? ms. peri: given where we were at that point, we were knee-deep in the iraq war, after 9/11. it made sense. freedom as an outsized, almost mythic quality to it. it very much was in the air, and it became a point of derision because whose freedom are we fighting for, and what we were doing in terms of the iraq war. after 9/11 that tone of speaking for freedom from terrorism here but also for democracy abroad was really important for president bush. i also want to say what struck me -- i had not gone back and listened much to those in a long time but going back to that first one, it was before 9/11. it is a beautifully written speech. parts of it sound so different from what we might hear today. there is a line where he says it is the american story, a story of flawed and fallible people united by grand ideals. today i do not know if you would hear republican say the american story of flawed and fallible people. there

bush. presidential transitions are times of vulnerability for our country, not only is a change in present but simultaneous a change in leadership at every executive branch agency. risks range of delays to oversight to heirs, and on the national security front could be, flat-footed by the savvy at pacific it is therefore vital the transition of power from one residential administration to the next be as seamless as possible. note business would ever choose to have their entire leadership lead on one day. the only reason executive branch is able to do so successfully every four or eight years including during times of crisis is because of the cooperation on the outgoing administration and the professionalism and expertise of career civil servants. this is not a partisan issue. this is an efficient and effective functioning of government for the people it serves. it is a bit from such cooperation. i entered the white house on the afternoon of the inauguration and found an office that flew me

bush, barack obama. my goal here is not just -- again, to bring together what we have been learning about the presidency as a written experience, but also to think about memoir. that is the way a lot of americans learn about presidents. they read the books those presidents and first ladies wrote. my hope today is we can make sense of how those all operate together. before we get into them, i want to ask all of you a question -- or a series of questions. we are talking now about the notion of a private life for presidents and their families. let's begin by defining what areas of our lives we would normally consider to be private, that are not the property of the public domain. i'm not asking any of you to share anything from your private lives, obviously. i'm not sharing anything of mine, but i'm wondering what areas of one's life do you consider to be fundamentally private, nobody's business, unless you choose to disclose it. health. absolutely, thomas. what else? >> [inaudible] dr. kastor: relationships

actually bush you bush person. another one to has come along it has decided not to follow his parent's trade and to find his own path in the city he's never returned to the town. is still by his own aside every step of the way. i live in you mean yes and something else to put it in any case you when you 1000000 you build it. they will go without a fig leaf we can move on is that if. you get a. man. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race. dramatic to follow only. i don't see how that strategy will be successful. that's true. seeing huge day for a wiki leaks founder julian assange british judge rules against extraditing him to the u.s. because of concerns about the current editor in chief. with when. journalists.

bush. he's born to a millionaire. his father has a brief electoral career in elected politics, but an extended career -- george w. bush still sees him that way. did any of the other memoirs you read tell that same story up ordinary people in extraordinary circumstances? >> richard nixon did. he definitely stressed how he was an ordinary person. dr. kastor: jacob, were you -- >> i agree with thomas, but to an extent, i think there was an arrogance with his riding, some line like people don't really care about that, so i feel like it was almost he was part of the greater being and he was ready for this role because he was above everybody else. i don't know if that comes off as -- i don't think he might have not thought of himself as ordinary. >> his policies or successes, i'm not sure about early life kind of thing. dr. kastor: sure, but doesn't this also confirm how david gergen described nixon? do you remember? really smart, socially inept, full of himself. it radiates from the memoir. nixo

george bush is from texas.e has less ties to new england than he does to any prep school. >> to iowa. >> he has less ties to iowa that any prep school in new england. so he beat reagan. that night, tom petty of nbc goes on national television and says we have just witnessed the political funeral of ronald reagan. ronald is out. that's it. five weeks later, he scores an enormous comeback in new hampshire primary. we all remember the debate. famous national debate. i am paying for this microphone, mr. green, even though that wasn't his name. that starts the beginning of his come back against bush. but he goes to detroit, the party is still divided, and so he needs to pick bush to unify the country's -- party, nixon picks add new in order to unify the party. it was a splitting that both parties practiced perfection in the forties, fifties, sixties, into the seventies. it unifies the party. but it goes through 30 primaries in the state convention. the nomination is not just rains for the asking. he has got to fight

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bush. frankly, at first glance, there's not much struggle for george w. bush. we should all be so lucky as to be born to the. -- be born into the privileges of george w. bush. >> he uses that struggle to transition into faith and how he understood how important faith was in his life. dr. kastor: how did he overcome alcoholism? >> through faith and in a generic way, he becomes religious. one of the major claims they make in the book they wrote is there is this trial, this challenge, their childhood or their early adulthood, is what is going to forge them to become president and make them better people. but they do it in a way that's very similar to the first ladies. they don't say, it's not george washington, commanding the continental army. is something very personal, very individual, and something that any other american might face, so the question i would ask you -- this is the big one and i will admit, it's one of those questions where i have a very specific answer in mind, but is crucial to what we're are doing this semester. i want to understand not just t

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commissioner bush a through d. do you have any specific aside from your very thoughtful and lengthy comments which provides feedback but did you have any time comments on what you want to see coming back to us on the 12th? >> close look at the proposals which are different from mine but intriguing and worthwhile frothter marks. i don't know if you are aware of ms. esther marks. she was a treasure of a number of campaigns for candidates and ballot measures. she is well versed in ethics and in the reality of government work and political work. she offers insights that are something we should welcome hearing. >> we need to ask for public comment. >> will be brief, thank you. i would concur with the priority of preserving the enforcement and audit function and the importance of maintaining momentum in 700 filings. that would be in line with your remarking earlier. i would be interested to have more information at the next meeting about the hiring freeze of the four positions. in the corporate world the first thing lead

bush issued a statement. after this, i want to go to andy carr josh letterman, hang on please this is from a statement of the 43rd president i am appalled by this and the lack of respect shown today for our institutions and traditions and law enforcement. he said in a statement andy carr was the chief of staff for george w. bush he's live with us on the phone andy, i am glad to hear from former president bush. your thoughts on the day and the moment >> i have been crying today because of what's happening. it is so sad and it is motivated by the president of the united states, he inspired people to do things they knew they should not be doing this is clearly irresponsible. we do not want our constitution violated the way it is violated. we are proud of our democracy. we recognize the responsibility to be able to change leaders because the people have spoken and the constitution says what the consequences to the action, the votes counted. i am troubled by what's happening. i am troubled that the capitol police

bush. prior to, that she was chief of staff to second lady lynne cheney, and before that social secretary to vice president cheney. when asked how she landed those jobs, i believe she will tell you she was in the right place at the right time. having known of her for many years, i can tell you that she was most assuredly qualified for all of those roles. as she tells, it she has been an event planner her entire adult life, including as a wife, full-time mom to two now adult daughters, and a couple of dogs. she hosts a daily blog called america's table, which i now have secretly book marked on my own computer up at my desk. it offers up hints about travel, home life, cooking, and food, glorious food, and tips on entertaining and etiquette, which she says is not just about knowing which fork to use, but about treating each other with kindness, even and especially, in the anonymous abyss of the internet. our second guest today originally hails from san antonio, texas, but now is a fellow south