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the same state that ron desantis is from, so i think it's a meaningful endorsement coming from byron donaldsand again, i think donald trump is putting pressure. it's smart to put pressure on the desantis donors to say listen. there's going to be one guy that's going to win the primary, show your loyalty today, get on board with donald trump, get on the trump train, because the desantis train is losing. now, again, the donors who are going to ron desantis, they want an alternative to trump. they don't think trump can win and so i don't think the pitch is going to really work to those folks. they want an alternative. but again, donald trump is going to push them. that's smart politics, ashley. it's a good thing to do to call them out and encourage them to come back home to his campaign. ashley: the big question i'm going to ask you, sean, very quickly. does desantis officially announce? >> sean: i would have said before the indictment and arraignment yes. i think after the indictment and arraignment to navigate that through the republican primary waters is going to be a little more challenging

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representative jamal bowman and byron donald's debate on cnn. primetime live next.et ready to say goodbye to those red envelopes. netflix has announced it will stop its dvd by mail service in september's united senior data reporter. harry antin joins us now, but frankly , the headline to me is that that service still existed was a little surprised that still exists to you know, it's existed over the last 25 years, they're sold or they sent out 5.2 plus billion this to different people , but i haven't used to be the way netflix and that's all what netflix was, was all netflix was right when it first began. i do have a question for you, though. two questions in and one number one. do you happen to know the first they sent out and the second question is. do you know what the most popular disk they sent that one? no. we have some clues for you. if you'd like to take a guess for some pictures, i can respond to pictures. okay can you see either of juice? that's that's correct. that was the first one involving football . yes the bright side. oh close the blinds blindside,

we hope to have byron donalds on also. congressman, i want to start with you.this past week that got some attention. you are saying that in five years, governor desantis did not reach out to you one time. is that true? >> yes, sir. it is a little bit even worse than that in my opinion. there has been multiple students opportunities where i've talked to him and given him my cell phone number and asked him to reach out to me. things in my district where i was told i could not be part of the press conference and not allowed to participate in that in my district. you can't win friends and influence people that way especially in the political real pal. many things that i've reached out to him and asked to talk to him. not even a person from his staff called me back. >> bill: he had such quick action after hurricane ian. he moved quickly. i'm surprised that actions like that would not convince you otherwise. >> look, i stand for america first agenda. there is no other candidate for the republican nominee that could go in day one and do what we need to have done in ou

liz: well, look whose back with us from house financial services , he's congressman byron donalds.haven't seen you in a while. it's good to have you back on. so what was your reaction when you heard biden's epa for the first time is going to crackdown on emissions from new and vesting power plants? we're already hearing warnings that of texas and california about climate mandates trigger ing rolling blackouts. >> i think it's stupid, frankly this is dumb policy, worrying about emissions at a time when we're already struggling to keep enough electricity on the grid. it makes no sense at all. as opposed to harassing power plants we need to be finding ways to add more power plants to our bid, add more base load power, not harassing people who basically keep the lights on. i think this is dumb policy, being put forward by joe biden, surprise surprise, but also, by the radicals who frankly inhabit too much of his administration. liz: you know, congressman, let's please get your reaction to what's going on with the epa 's expected power plant crackdown. let's get your reaction to this. >

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stuart: i think byron donald won that one. thanks.ack to the markets, look who is here, friday morning. kenny polcari is with us. you say i gave you a hard time about the market during your last appearance. i have no memory, what did i say? >> it wasn't wrong, just to debate, us me what i thought. i said i thought the market would go lower, you said it would go higher. i think it's going to go higher but it's going lower first and you gave me a hard time, told me i was wishy-washy. stuart: well i'm very sorry. didn't mean to say that. the truth is at this moment, i've been saying the market wants to go up but the professionals on the street say a big drop is coming. it's almost universal bearish feeling. >> that could be are contraindicated because there's so much bearishness you could see the market move higher but i am still in that camp, just one week into earnings, we will start to get more into the meat and potatoes through the next couple weeks and that will give a sense of what the economy is doing, you 'll see some difficult n

last year erica donalds, the waif of florida congressman byron donalds, launched the first ever virtualchools offer accredited, classical education and are tuition-free. joining us now is the ceo of the foundation, erica donalds. erica, so great to the see you. met you percent first time a few months ago, you told me about what you're doing k and it's phenomenal. if you would, share what your up foundation does for kids. >> sure. well, i started the optima pound case after serving on the -- foundation after serving on school board here in collier county, florida, and i found parents like me really didn't have school choice options. we started several brick and mortar charter schools in the classical tradition. but during covid, you know, we started a virtual program, of course, like everyone else and found a there was a huge command for a classical option mt. virtual realm, distance learning where parents have more controlover what their students are learning. so we took that a step further by adding the is virtual reality component. so we are teaching class call education, accredited s

florida republican congressman byron donalds. mary miller from illinois tweeted joe biden has had to evacuate four embassies in four years. adults are back in charge. world has been on fire since their disaster in afghanistan. pray for our country and the 16,000 americans biden left in sudan. echos of afghanistan here. the embassy in khartoum is closed and still thousands of people who might want to get out. >> first of all, my colleague is absolutely correct. she called it right down the middle, like we have seen. four embassies, not even in three years of a presidency and seems every time a story is the same, some stupid form letter goes out from the state department telling americans abroad hey, just like hunker down, shelter-in-place. meanwhile, we are evacuating state department personnel as opposed to having our military secure our embassy so americans can find safe haven to get out of the hot spots. last time i checked, we don't leave people behind but joe biden has now become an expert of doing this with antony blinken in

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in the studio republican congressman byron donald's of florida and democratic congressman jamal bowman of new york. they are here to debate gun violence, the economy 2024 more that's coming up live. but first, a wrong doorbell. wrong driveway a wrong car. three honest mistakes, but anyone of us could make turned deadly or in your fatal for several young americans, all within the last week and texas two cheerleaders shot for opening the door of a car they thought was there's it happened in a supermarket parking lot. heather ross says she was trying to apologize to the man in the car when he allegedly threw up his hands and pulled out a gun. the 25 year old man is behind bars tonight, roth was struck by a bullet, but it's doing fine. a second cheerleader 18 year old peyton washington, was seriously injured, but is said to be doing well and in new york 20 year old kaylin this she did not survive after she turned into the wrong driveway. the homeowner who allegedly killed her denied bail charged with second degree murder. caitlin's understandably emotional while addressing reporters. after

this works and also, by the way, it's not just mass shootings at suicides, but there is still byron donald's congressman, donald's still very opposed to byron's my congressman in florida. i live in florida. and then and props to jared when he was the leader in the legislature, getting that red flag law through in florida, my sheriff and lee county supports these red flag loss. and people don't understand america. maybe they don't do understand, but most gun deaths in america 54% of gun deaths in america are are from suicide, right right suicide for the majority of gun deaths. are from suicide. and these red flag laws do a great great service and producing those. so i agree with jared and this and that should be should be much more widely adopted. news people are having their gun still stole in the middle of the night do process they get a big hearing. it's not a matter of lacking solutions. we know the things that we need to do in the country to prevent these mass shootings and the increased number and suicides. it's a lack of political will and it's not. it's the fear of being booed at the

this started when trump picked up an endorsement from a florida representative named byron donalds. lds announced is backing donald trump instead of ronald desantis even though ronald knows the donalds and when donalds chose donald over ronald, donald was so happy and went straight to mcdonald's. [laughter] basically this is a pr disaster for ron desantis. on the bright side whenever there's a disaster, we do get to see him in cute white little boots. jury selection has begun in dominion voting systems versus fox news. suing for $1.6 billion, and it looks like they might get it. the judge yesterday ruled that fox was guilty of what they called discovery misconduct for accidentally forgetting to turn over audio recordings in which rudy giuliani and trump campaign official basically admit they had no evidence of the voter fraud they kept screaming about. one of the tapes, the trump campaign official says there were no physical issues they found with the dominion voting machines and on another rudy giuliani says, he told -- tells a reporter he can actually prove the claims he has made a

we have a national security crisis at our hands and information i've seen and nancy mace and byron donaldked about it, we've seen bank records and bank statements and it is concerning. there is no explanation for why this family continues to take in significant amounts of money and the way they did it and created llc's to hide the source of the money and deceive the irs. another thing joe biden says that drives me crazy, he talks about tax cheats. the first family that pops in my mind is the biden family. we're going to continue to dig and continue to get more bank records. the more we learn, we find more bank violations, we find more llc's created to launder money back into the family and we find more bidens involved in this influence pedalling scheme. i hope the main-stream media that i cans this more seriously, this is crisis with corruption in the white house. >> ashley: yesterday i had to do a double take when cbs was covering it on friday. hopefully the more you dig in and release, they will have to address it as well as the white house. >> james: they'll have to. >> todd: congressm

president biden and speaker mccarthy come to an agreement on lifting the debt cell phone something byron donald"america reports." >> harris: tiktok will now remove videos with climate change misinformation and promote videos that support sustainability. this video shares life hacks for users to try out, the company announcing it friday. on april 21, we will have new climate change misinformation policy, which removes climate change misinformation that undermines consensus such as content denying climate change or factors that contribute to it. they don't want us to discuss, lisa, what is going on in the world. yet, will they have scientists go through what is true or not? or bunch of people in a back room stamping like they did at twitter years ago? >> lisa: isn't that your point, they don't want us to discussing what is going on. the point is to push a narrative without opposition. they did this with covid, it is not about misinformation, it is about selling a narrative and not get the truth to light and like with covid, they use climate change to crack down on our liberties and freedom and gr

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here with me in studio florida republican congressman house oversight committee byron donalds in the in times square, who do you trust more, joe biden or the guy selling the rolexes. >> at least the guy on the corner knows it is fake, you also know it is fake. i know i'm walking into this, rolex in the jewelry store not the corner. jimmy: you can stunt a little bit, but with biden, he took that position, that was brazen. never talk to him, never knew him. let's assume he is telling the truth. they went to white house 80 times, who would they be talking to. >> jimmy stop, i can't even play. if my son gets in trouble in school, teachers i'm sorry, they send me an e-mail, i know, i talk to my son, what did you do. i don't know. teacher tell you to stop talking, yeah, d it did you stop, no. are you kidding me, his son was showing up in white house 80 times no one said hunter how is business where is that money coming from. i thought you were on drugs. that never came up? jimmy: never once. beginning pain ter. is now -- painter getting 500 thousand a painting. you should meet the painter.

in studio with more reaction, florida congressman he's a rising star in the republican party, byron donalds is with us. [cheers and applause] >> sean: i want all of you to know this, you have been under attack because you are white, your wife happens to be white, you have come under fire, even called a prop by congressman cori bush. you have been sent a copy of uncle tom's cabin. it's clear he has no problem being used was written about y you. at the congressional black caucus and he wanted to join that caucus. >> i did when i first got in the congress. >> sean: what happened? >> what happened was there was never an opportunity for me to join. >> sean: they wouldn't let you win? there was never an answer and i stopped asking. >> sean: is at the liberal black caucus or is it the congressional black caucus? >> right now is the liberal congressional black caucus. here's the bigger thing. should hakeem jeffries apologize? obviously for what he wrote in that essay, 100% not just to me but to burgess owens, the john james, the tim scott but also to me and love, alan west and all the black republi

byron donalds is one of desantis' great friends and biggest allies when donalds decided to go with trumps big news. in the future could be more challenging than originally thought. currently polling shows that desantis has an edge over trump head to head with biden in a general election, which is good news for the florida governor. while at the same time desantis support within the g.o.p. dipping just a little bit from just a few months ago as you see. the new g.o.p. battleground is florida. it's the home state of two frontrunners for the nomination. what will happen in florida will reverberate around the country no doubt. and another up and coming florida star francis suarez making some noise. he might be set to launch his own presidential bid. i spoke to him a few hours ago and he is no fan of his governor. >> he seems to struggle with relationships generally. i look people in the eye when i shake their hands. he has had a real struggle with the florida congressional delegation, most of which are supporting the former president. he wasn't even calling people personally at his fundraise

republican congressman byron donalds. >> should hakeem jeffries apologize for what he wrote? 100%.thing. i'm over the phony apologies. let's have a real debate about black conservatism and black liberalism and an honest conversation about whose policies are going to unleash not just black america but all of america? >> harris: excerpt reads this way. it is clear hakeem jeffries is no anti-seamite as his close elations with josh communities. people grow and change. his years of denial about his involvement are dishonest. you said this is a long, long time ago but you also said that he wants to be a leader in the country. so everything is now -- >> i would be more concerned about this if he said it in congress or the new york state assembly or some position of responsibility. kids say stupid things in college. one of the big problems we have in our society is that kids can't make mistakes anymore on social media, can't say stupid ideas or try ideas and figure out they are dumb and move on. the problem is the double standard. if brett kavanaugh had said these things or if kevin mccart

byron donalds with this. >> i want to see where democrats go with this.he media, where is cnn and msnbc. will they ask him day after day after day and let him give out his comment through his staff, by the way, and then let them move on to the next subject? if this was kevin mccarthy it would be never ending saga why is that person leading parties in america? >> harris: tammy bruce, fox news contributor host of get tammy bruce on fox nation. hakeem jeffries, is this a problem? >> i don't think so. he is in his position because of the democrat party's need to pander to the far left. so look, we all change, right? this is from college but he has not changed. this really does resonate with the kind of rhetoric we've been hearing throughout the democratic party. they pretend and hide it but the fact is that even if the other media doesn't cover it, the american people don't like this. we don't like the extremes on either end. we know there will be disagreements but this is part and parcel of -- especially the messaging to black americans or any group of ameri

but i think what got the attention of the governor's team is that when congressman byron donalds didsident, most people at least him they enjoy a close relationship. i do think they were surprised unlike for example matt gamatt gaetz was probably always would endorse trump. i think that governor had a couple of bad week in regard to conversations in ukraine. 6 week aboard ban controversy that happening in florida right now. and the fact he has not been punching back against former president trump in some of the attacks he had. jackie: let's dig to numbers, there is a politico pole found after president trump's indictment and his arraignment that he is first choice from 41% of those who responded in south carolina, he was the ahead of nikki haley in her own state. desantis has yet to declare, you know, we think it is pending or it will come. he came in second behind trump. nikki haley, third, 18%. there are some folks who say det desantis has a tough choice to take, he can sit this out or wait for next race. he may lose his momentum he has gained from his work in florida and been prai

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republican congressman byron donalds is now asking where is the media outrage? >> i want to see where democrats go with this. where is the media? where is cnn, msnbc? are they going to ask hakeem jeffries day after day after day? are they going to let him give out his comment through his staff, by the way, and let them move onto the next subject? if this was kevin mccarthy, paul ryan, jon weiner, it would be never ending saga about why it's such a person leading one of the prominent parties in america? >> emily, i fashioned in my head, not that it actually happens, but maybe hakeem gets calls of we got you from the media. >> yeah, the most disarming thing is this is an elected official in office who proudly represents the eighth district in new york. he wrote that there or those that may feel the black conservative may well have the interest of the black masses at heart. the supporters feel that advocating a right-wing agenda and embracing the republican party is more effective than imposing a system. this notion he wrote is simply unacceptable. how are the peop

the last record high was in 2006, plus, republican senator ted cruz and representative byron donald are working to eliminate the consumer financial protection bureau which currently serves as a financial watchdog. it adds unnecessary regulation, stifles business and is a "an utter and complete waste of government spending." their legislation first obtained by fox digital would repeal the bill that created the agency. trace? >> trace: good credit bad, bad credit good. it gets a little confusing. lauren blanchard live for us in d.c. thank you. the biden administration is now getting ready for the expected surge of illegal immigrants when title 42 ends. that's the covid policy along the u.s./mexico border. nate is in brownsville, texas. >> reporter: today, the biden administration revealed how it plans to deal with the end of title 42. >> it's an approach focused on making migration more safe, orderly, humane and unadvancing the interests of the american people. >> reporter: the u.s. will open migrant processing centers in latin america and deport inlet injure able migrants from title 8 ba

lauren: byron donalds, matt9 gaits and john rutherford, just some of of them.in reportedly deciding he will stick with ron desantis, he donated $50 million plus to republicans in the past midterms. stuart: this is fascinating. lauren: you've got to follow the money sometimes but when you have seven republicans who love what desantis is doing in florida backing trump -- stuart: the writing is on the wall. the former governor of arkansas, asa hutchinson, he's going after trump. watch this. >> why does the party need to move on if from donald trump? >> because donald trump has taken us back to bitterness, he's taken us back to, you know, what's a personal venn debt a that. whenever you look -- vendetta, whenever you look at what he wants to do as president, it's more about getting even with his political enemies, and that concerns me. stuart: sean, are you in the camp that says trump's policy is good, but his style is bad? >> so i'm in the camp of, yes, his policies have been remarkable for the american economy. our foreign policy was way better under trump. i don

trump picked up the backing of congressman byron donalds who had been a desantis ally previously joiningcongress member of course and thankfully an nbc news contributor now. >> thanks, andrea. >> your reaction, you know what it's like to run the state house. he's had a busy day there with an abortion ban on the floor going through and protesters, but what about reaching out to these congressional members and trying to nail down their loyalty versus trump >> andrea, i think it's two things one is i'm not sure how long -- how well he got along with his colleagues when he was in the house. some people have said that he was pretty silent, you know, didn't engage them very much that stuff can come back to haunt you. i don't think it's deadly, but it's, you know, it's sort of a problem. but the second reason is is that he's got one leg, one foot in running for president, and the other one not. and i mean, one of the issues is you got to jump in at some point. how do you go to somebody in florida who's a member of congress who lives in fear of donald trump, and then you say i'm not going to be

former president trump thursday picked up an endorsement from florida representative byron donald's while the santis now has kentucky representative thomas massie, behind his possible presidential run thursday, two sentences in michigan. our bottom line is we do not surrender to the woke mob . florida's where woke goes to die. other potential candidates are also testing the waters. republican senator tim scott just announced stops in new hampshire and iowa and california democratic governor gavin newsom. um, went to florida. for democrats to have already announced, including robert f. kennedy jr. who will formally launched his campaign later this month. other party heavyweights are still waiting to see if president biden will seek reelection when asked to name someone who they would like to see as an alternative to biden. americans have a hard time articulating that democrats in particular, not joe biden, then who news poll shows president biden is struggling with his job approval numbers. and most americans are very concerned about the economy in washington. lauren blanchard, fox news, t

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then you have folks like byron donalds and greg steube and others defect to the trump camp?essage for republican grassroots folks across the country. elizabeth: the washington examiner made the point the republican nominee in 2024 could be the guy who wants to make america great again, to who agrees with california golf newsome that florida is bad under desantis the, or it could be the guy who made florida good, and has desantis. so it's an interesting thing that's happening right now between these two really powerful republican contenders. >> oh, it absolutely is, liz. and, look, i think that this is republican primary politics. we do know that florida is the beacon of free come when it comes to -- freedom when it comes to changing america back. and donald trump lives in florida. i will say though when you look at the message that was sent to ron desantis, it was very simple, the majority of house members basically said leave 2024 to trump and focus on governing florida. elizabeth: what did you think of biden's announcement on a youtube video today, his 2024 the bid? it was

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yeah, yeah, that's not a big surprise, but you know, someone like byron donald's who you know, was introduced ron desantis at his victory party back when he won re election in november. coming out in support of donald trump. it's not just the easy ones he's getting. he's getting some of the hard ones too. and this, i think is quite surprising. if you understand the history of donald trump that he's actually able to bring in some members of congress for his campaign, right, so how does this or does this contrast with what you saw before for trump? yes. so you know, go back to his 2016 campaign. i think it was until 2016. he didn't get any endorsements back in 2015 from members of congress and total up all the endorsements he had from members of congress. and governors. what you saw was it doesn't come anywhere close to the number of endorsements he has right now from members of congress and governors. he has over 60 of them at this particular point. back in 2016 through the entire primary season. it was 15. it was 15. so he's already four times the number he got during the entire primaries is,

now, thaart fear was likely heightened earlier this weeknal when congressman byron donalds, who's been very closhee to desantis, announced he's supporting trump. now, in doing so, he became fro the fourth rep frothm the floria delegation to line up behindnd e the former president to. desantis is zero. so far , sso theo stanch the blt . the team is calling up the rest of the florida delegation to lobby for their support while desantis himself will travel to the capitol capitol hill next weekti for a congressional meet and joining me now to discuss all this, lee zeldin, former new york congressman, gubernatorial candidate, mollie hemingway, editor in chief of, the federalist fox news,fo contributor. and tom bevan, co-founder and president of real clear politics. now, i'm reading this piece in the new york times tonight, which kind of builds out on this report that desantis supporters are calling aroundoui to the florida delegatiodankeepy and saying, hold your keep your powder dry, don't jumoup yt . for trump, it's too early.at a what aboutbout the timing, lee? i think that if you're a re

joining us now is republican congressman byron donald of florida. who should we should note serves on the house oversight and reform committees . good morning, congressman. thank you for being here. obviously, we've been talking about this indictment. for trump. today we're going to see him in the building behind me. and just a matter of hours from now, do you think the indictment helps or hurts him politically? well look, it absolutely is going to help him in the republican primary. as we speak . republican voters are rallying around president trump simply because what they view is an indictment that makes no sense at all and indictment that is pure politics of political persecution of a political enemy , something that the american people frankly despised in our country, simply not for. and what about the general election ? or you're arguing it helps him in the republican primary. we've seen how the potential 2024 rivals for trump for the gop nomination of responded. but what about general general election? because cnn polling has shown that there

i mean, you heard congressman byron donald's their house republicans are trying to get his testimony. he's so forest rebuffed those requests, but only i think what's also important here is the broader perspective that this may be the first indictment against trump. it may not be the last mean there are a lot of other investigations that are much more worrisome to trump's legal team, including our reporting from katelyn polantz yesterday about when it comes to documents investigation. the special counsel. there is nailing down evidence i was told secret service members are going to testify before the grand jury there. how much are are you watching that so important to keep that in mind while we are here today we are very much rightly focused on this. i think this is the least of the legal troubles in terms of the severity of conduct and we're seeing the special counsel m m m real strides in that investigation. i mean, subpoenaing and getting testimony potentially from secret service agents is a major step and by the way there is precedent for that bill clinton's secret service agents w

byron? ultimately the democrats they don't care if it is helping trump, it is a win-win, makes him look bad because of indictment. they believe that donaldrump is the candidate they want, joe biden or someone else in their party can beat him. what do you say? >> right. they think it helps him win the republican nomination. then he goes on to lose the democratic election. that is the scenario. bill barr said for many months does not want to see donald trump to be president again. doesn't want him to see trump win the republican nomination. as far as this new york indictment is concerned, barr said he thinks clear prosecutorial abuse, he thinks it's bad idea. on the other hand barr thinks the justice department may have a strong, solid case against the former president in the classified documents matter. one of the things that i think informs what barr is saying is his belief it is not, come election time, it is not going to be just the manhattan case so many people think is really, really weak. it could be the classified documents matter. it could be a january 6 matter, it could be a 2020 election matter. ashley: yeah. byron, i want to ge

byron york, so, desantis has said he wants to wait until after the florida legislative session is over. meantime, fighting to forestall more endorsements among the florida congressional delegation for donaldtrump, so far four have gone for trump. the longer he waits, the harder it's going to be. >> i think this plan of waiting 'til may, maybe even june did not take into account how much trump would be attacking desantis, and whether desantis would respond with a full bore of his own or ignore it. in politics you cannot quite ignore. the problem is the hardest job in politics is running against donald trump in a republican primary. here is the big thing. you are trying to appeal to republican voters. you have to tell them that you really support and respect what trump did in office. he did a great job in office. and then you have to say but it's time to move on and trump is saying wait a minute, here i am, i'll do it again. >> john: desantis has tried to fly above the fray when it comes to responding to attacks on him from former president trump, but pacs are out there full. watch the new ad. >> we are not going to mess with social security as republicans. >> what did trump say? >> entitle