let me bring in former senator, byron dorgan of north dakota. senator, good to have you with us tonight. >> hey, ed. you're on a roll tonight, aren't you? >> well, we have to be on a roll, senator. i mean, i think this -- we are doing americans wrong by just kicking these folks to the side of the road like road kill. >> yeah. >> and how important is it, in your judgment, that this extension for unemployment americans be made? >> well, it's unbelievably important. it's important for the economy, generally, because it will lift the economy. but, you know, for those that are chronically unemployed, they're not unemployed because they volunteered and said, you know, i'd like to wake up in the mornings out of a job. that's not what their situation is. and i find it really interesting. you talk about the house of representatives and eric cantor and john boehner. i find it really interesting that in just recent years when the biggest enterprises in america got in trouble. and by the way, some of them on wall street that helped cause the near collapse o

joining me now, karen finney, host of "disrupt" on the weekends and also former senator byron dorganu with us. karen, what do you make of these numbers? how can she not run? it's almost a calling with these numbers. >> when she decides i think she's not going to pay attention necessarily to these numbers because she knows the day she announces it's a totally new game. right? now i want's people like the idea but they don't have to deal with the reality of what her candidacy would actually be. then you start to have to talk about issues, and that's -- plus we also know that they're going to throw everything in the book at her. i think for a lot of voters they've already made up their minds on that. but how she builds a campaign to deal with all that, it's still going to be a campaign. >> senator dorgan, in your career, you also polled very well. it was always an uphill battle to try to defeat you for your house seat and many years in the senate. you know what it's like to run a campaign with a big lead well into the double digits ahead of your opponent. i may say swrl 25 percentage po

let me bring in former democratic senator from north dakota byron dorgan, and former republican congressmandorgan, is there any scenario at all where you see now that they can pull it off? >> i think so. november is a long way away, but it is not surprising in january, when the calendar turns to january of an election year, you begin to see more announcements that people aren't running. i think, however, there's a different circumstance for people serving in the congress. when they ask the question how am i doing? there self-satisfaction here? less and less satisfaction i think for those who serve because they can't get things done. there's almost total gridlock. i'm not surprised we're seeing some more resignations they deals, because this congress doesn't worked, and people nourished by accomplishment are starving up there. >> congressman lazio, we know what gerrymandering has done to competitiveness. so except for the reddest and the bluest of districts, however, when you don't have an incumbency when somebody steps down, as we're seeing and frankly an electorate that's generally disgust

abramson will take another , byron partner with ncai dorgan, unity, and every one of these young folks. young native leaders today, right now. [applause] >> thank you, ernie. >> hello and good day. i agree with everything you have nation your state of the . youth are really important for education but i'm in the work with the health issues of our people. i would really like to congress to work on a bill that works and becomes law that indian health service be fully funded. on a terrible to be put lower level than federal penitentiary inmates in this country. serve at the highest rate -- people who served in the u.s. armed forces. ai to work onnc the indian tax board, congress with a bill that would fully fund the indian health service so that our children are healthy enough to attend the school, and that our elders will not have to suffer. you.ank we have time for one more question. >> mike williams. i just applaud your comments on the issue of violence against women. we have the highest rates of suicide and domestic violence in alaska. i have seen the numbers in north dakota as well.