>> i think campbell brown has it right. so sick of this rhetoric about women having a seat at the table and being there and you can do it. president obama saying you are smarter than we are. if you have to say it it sounds like you don't think it. as far as a seat at the table why do we own the buildings that table is in. this is just wrong. we are americans. what women want is jobs and a strong economy and a strong country. we don't want to be talked to like we are second class citizens. it's not right and that's where he has gone. campbell brown hit the nail on the head big time. shannon: campbell brown makes reference to this life of julia character that talks about how the government impacts a woman's life from childcare through her life. do you think that was a good strategy? campbell brown calls it silly and embarrassing. >> i think what they are speaking to are concerns everyone has when politicians are speaking. i'm always reticent when it's campaign season. we are seeing democrats and republicans campaigning hard f

i'm sure that helped campbell brown a lot.. >> we had a brief discussion around the issue of women's empowerment. where we agreed that both when it comes to economic development and when it comes to peace and security issues, empowering women to have a seat at the table and get more engaged and more involved in these processes can be extraordinarily fruitful. >> all right. >> like that cartoon he thought was insulting saying they're smarter than men. >> the most important about that julia campaign is sort of the belief that women need to be on the government dole to have a good life. i mean, she felt that was maybe the most condescending part about it. but obviously this issue is not going away. i mean, the president there had just met with angela merkel that runs the country of germany, by the way, he's coming out speaking about women again. this is going to be a very hot topic as we move forward. >> she told us to call her angela. >> i'm glad both of you know women so well. first time i've heard a man say that. >> that's my

i want to flag another one in "the times" this sunday by campbell brown, friend of the show.ding to women. i think it's interesting, agree with some of it but not all of it. the promise of obama's campaign four years ago has given way to something else. a failure to connect with tens of millions of americans, many of them women who feel economic opportunity is gone and are losing hope. in an effort to win them back, mr. obama is trying too hard. he is employing a tone that can come across as grading, even condescending. he really ought to drop it. most women don't want to be patted on the head or treated as wards of the state. they simply want to be given a chance to succeed based on their talent and skills. to borrow a phrase from our president's favorite president, abe happen lincoln, they want, "an open field and a fair chance." in the second decade of the 21st sentry, that isn't asking too much. >> she must be referencing that ad. the life of pat. >> i think as we work to, you know, promote women and give them a step in, a seat at the table, sometimes the phraseology can

i thought it's interesting campbell brown former network anchor wrote a piece saying we don't want all this government help. do women feel like they need legislation and government help every step of the way? >> have you met a woman lately? no. women are doing. >> not often. >> outside. we are going we are not looking for people to come rescue us. that's actually con descending in a way. >> he is that the word i hear most often. >> we are multi-tasker. women are more than 50% now the bread winners, the primary income. >> 50%. >> more than 50%. >> i have got 37%. >> no. no more than 50%. >> be nice to the lady. >> exactly. >> amelia antoinettey, always night to see you -- nice to see you here: be nice lady. >> family feud hat fields of mccoys being brought back to life by kevin costner the oscar winner and bill packs to be, they join us on the curvey couch to talk about this historic gym. >> fleet week is underway. anna kooiman is -- we will check in with her. we'll be right back. it's time to live wider awake. only the beautyrest recharge sleep system combines the comfort of aircool me

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brown. that would have been a factor, too. >> what can you say, mr. campbell, on the pass-through of parliament what became the communication act of 2003. that's obviously a complicated piece of legislation, but it passed the parliament at a time when you were still in post, as it were, before your retirement -- >> yeah. but i don't recall being involved to a huge extent in the detail of policy discussion. and i do remember tessa jou, who i think was secretary of state at the time, when she took the job, she wanted it to be very, very clear she was going to be in charge of that process, and i do also remember her wanting to be absolutely clear that she wasn't, as it were, inheriting any kind of implied or unimplied deals with anybody in the media empires. i'm sure tess will speak for herself, but i do remember that. >> so to be clear about that, she was concerned that as part of the inheritance, there might have been some sort of deal, as you say. she wanted to be sure that there wasn't such a deal. did she have conversations with you about it or conversations

brown, no doubt. sneests by the end of your time in downing street, mr. campbell, prurp somewhat jaded it may be fair to say mr. blair points out, page 3z 01-302 of his book. alastair was getting exhausted and ratty and getting set upon by the media whom he was coming to loath. he was therefore not handling quite right. well, i understood the bit about the handling quite right but you were coming to loath them? >> not all of them. i was coming to loath -- well i had come to loath the culture that i've set out in my statements. there were some individuals that i had come to loath. i had come to loath their self-obsession, their obsession with me, the negative activity, the trivialization, i had come to loath all that, yeah. let me just say on the other hand as i said in my first statement, some of them were and are fantastic first rate journalists who i think was as worried about the culture as i was but didn't feel in power to do anything about it, but i was certainly ready to reach the exit door. >> lord mandelson, one of his concluding observations, it's an inte

brown. no doubt. >> by the end of your time in downing street, mr. campbell, you were somewhat jaded, it may be fair to say, mr. blair points out, pages 301, 32 -- 302, pardon me, of his book. al astare was getting exhausted and ratty and he was getting set upon by the media, whom he was coming to loathe. he was therefore not handling quite right. well, i'm not interested in the bit about handling quite right. but you were coming to loathe them, presumably. >> not all of them. i was coming to loathe -- well, i had come to loathe the culture that i've set out in my statements. there were some individuals that i had come to loathe. i'd come to loathe their self-obsession, their obsession with me, the negativity, the trivialization. i had come to loathe all that. yeah. but let me just say on the other hand, as i said in my first statement, some of them were and are fantastic first-rate journalists who i think were as worried about the culture as i was. but couldn't actually -- didn't feel empowered to do anything about it. but i was certainly ready to reach the

>> first of all, i actually think that gordon brown and be charlie whelan were masters of spin more than alistair campbell and be tony blair in terms of -- i don't think it's often reported that it was tony blair and alistair campbell. but i think the whole of new labour engaged in a new way, a more intense way with the media when they came to power. >> the question was, what steps f any, did you take to counteract that? >> well, i don't think any journalist takes a story from a politician or a line from the politician and repeats it verbatim in their newspaper without checking it or analyzing it. i mean, a role of a journalist is not to just gather information, it's also to analyze and prove that information. >> but you weren't disinterested in this, mrs. brooks, were you on mr. blair's side? you just made that clear in the answer you gave a minute ago, wouldn't you agree? >> i think when you back a political pear in the way that -- party in the way that "the sun" did in 1997, i wasn't on "the sun" then, but, you know, i was a close observer. i don't think you back them whole-heartedly. in fact, i think

brown. no doubt. >> by the end of your time in downing street, mr. campbell, you were somewhat jaded, it may be fair to say, mr. blair points out, pages 301, 32 -- 302, pardon me, of his book. al astare was getting exhausted and ratty and he was getting set upon by the media, whom he was coming to loathe. he was therefore not handling quite right. well, i'm not interested in the bit about handling quite right. but you were coming to loathe them, presumably. >> not all of them. i was coming to loathe -- well, i had come to loathe the culture that i've set out in my statements. there were some individuals that i had come to loathe. i'd come to loathe their self-obsession, their obsession with me, the negativity, the trivialization. i had come to loathe all that. yeah. but let me just say on the other hand, as i said in my first statement, some of them were and are fantastic first-rate journalists who i think were as worried about the culture as i was. but couldn't actually -- didn't feel empowered to do anything about it. but i was certainly ready to reach the

campbell or charlie were telling you the truth. it was our job to judge and analyze it. >> was your relationship with mr. brown on the same level? >> i was actually friends with several brown =-- sarah brown. >> say you were more friendly with mr. blair that mr. brown? >> by the end, yes. not at the beginning. as mr. murdoch said in his testimony, he had a warmer relationship with mr. brown and i would see gordon brown quite regularly as well. >> we may come back to this but in relation to this huge -- fued, he took the side of mr. blair, not mr. brown? i think you have to state which part of the feud. for example, in the famous curry house coup, i think we did take mr. blair's side. the country was almost on ice because of the hostility. i felt an injustice on behalf of our readers because policy was not getting through. but not always. >> but most of the times? >> i am reluctant to agree because i am not quite sure it is true. but at the end, we were on the side of mr. blair. >> in the fair interests of your readers, he maintained impartiality between them? mr. brown and mr. blair? >> i did not quite understand the question. >

brown and charlie reeder were masters of spin. i think in terms that -- i don't think it's often reported that it was tony blair and alastair campbellbut i think the whole of new labour engaged in a new way, and more intensely with the media when they came to power. >> what steps if any did you take to counteract that click >> i don't think any journalist takes the story from politician or a line from a politician and repeats it without checking it or unlike name it. the role of a journalist is to not gather information. it's also to analyze and process information. >> were you on mr. blair's side, you just made that clear the answer you gave a minute ago, wouldn't you agree? >> i think when you add with a party in the way that was in 1997 i was a close observer. i don't think he backed him wholeheartedly. in fact, i think if you look at the pages from 1997 and so when tony blair left in 2007, you would at some point be quite confused that it is actually supporting that party, particularly on year. but there's other issues as well. >> is a level of personality in the class of pairwise between mr. blair and mr. brown which you speak

brown. no doubt. >> by the end of your time in downing street, mr. campbell, you were somewhat jaded, it may be fair to say, mr. blair points out, pages 301, 32 -- 302, pardon me, of his book. al astare was getting exhausted and ratty and he was getting set upon by the media, whom he was coming to loathe. he was therefore not handling quite right. well, i'm not interested in the bit about handling quite right. but you were coming to loathe them, presumably. >> not all of them. i was coming to loathe -- well, i had come to loathe the culture that i've set out in my statements. there were some individuals that i had come to loathe. i'd come to loathe their self-obsession, their obsession with me, thenegativity, the trivialization. i had come to loathe all that. yeah. but let me just say on the other hand, as i said in my first statement, some of them were and are fantastic first-rate journalists who i think were as worried about the culture as i was. but couldn't actually -- didn't feel empowered to do anything about it. but i was certainly ready to reach the e