another 2-2 pitch from capuano.count. >> tom: what's the comeback with the fastball or change-ups in the 8-2 games? i think he pulls a string. >> harold: i was going to say the 90 miles an hour is the heater. fastball away. heater away. >> joe: is this the last pitch of the night? no. >> tom: i don't know. i got this feeling he wants throw that change-up. >> joe: he struck out the lead-off hitter, iannetta after falling behind 2-0. cron flied to center and now it's carlos perez with a full count. >> tom: a nice battle here. there it is, the change-up. >> joe: will he trick him? >> capuano's got that look that's the best ball i've got, 90. i'm maxing out here, guys. tried away tried in didn't get the call. tried up right there. >> he's tired of throwing that. now the change. >> joe: on 3-2 off the end of the bat. >> serving up some souvenirs, it's okay. >> joe: a smile on the face of carlos perez. >> harold: pitch number 13 coming up. >> tom: he's done now, he's lost his edge. >> turning in his wings. >> joe: good ba

capuano: mr. hart, have you taken a look at the accident whether the seat belts would have helped or not? mr. hart yes, we are looking at : that. mr. capuano: so that will be part of the final report when you have one? mr. hart yes. :mr. capuano: because i just road the train up to philadelphia. there are no seat belts on the train. yet i flew down here today from boston. i had a seat belt on the entire time. and it would strike me that -- i don't know. i have no idea and i'm looking the forward to your report, that seat belts would be something that should be considered both to prevent death and injury. mr. hart we will be looking at : that. as part of the survivability aspect. mr. capuano: if they recommend seat belts in passenger trains is that something you would pursue? ms. feinberg it would certainly : be something we would look at. there are different opinions about the requirements of seat belts on trains. mr. capuano: different opinions? ms. feinberg yeah, well i : recognize that seat bel

capuano is recognized by bennett's. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank the board, the panel for the testimony event. is very thoughtful every difficult decisions on how to make prioritization. mr. hart, has been just be taking a look i'm not sure you have have you taken a look at the decisions on prioritization of the ptc or is that beyond the scope of your normal activities? >> we would look at these specific events. investigating to determine what needs to be done to prevent that from happening again. >> you wouldn't be in the business of determining whether a by organization made by amtrak or others, atc let's assume everybody get ptc tomorrow. they can't be admitted to market every rail in the country would have to determine what do we do second, third, fourth, fifth? that were not in the normal purview of? >> that would be correct exactly how we would lead it to the implementers. >> fair enough. that's what i expected. ms. feinberg, i'm curious do you agree with mr. boardman's assessment, comments that amtrak will reach the december

capuano. >> we know where we are today. tell me how to get to where we want to be as quickly as we can. that is what america and i want. if you think you need federal assistance be clear. we have our opinions on if we should put funds up or not and if you think we should i would say so. i yield back and look forward to the testimony. >> full committee chairman mr. sires. >> the number one priority of this committee is safety. rail safety has been going in the right direction but the terrible amtrak incident showed us we should remain focused on the efforts to improve rail safety. as chairman denham said this is one of the most costly enhancements the railroads have taken. we knew it would be challenging but seven years into the future we know that will not be the case. with a few exceptions most railroads will not meet the deadline. technology has been more difficult to create spectrum has been hard to acquire particularly for commuter railroads that serve populated areas. and finally the federal communication commission ap

capuano for yielding to the rest of the committee. first of all it went to command natural link, the second-largest by size in the country for the outstanding work they have done in meeting our ptc deadline. i like it that you are close with railroad partners, the mss union pacific amtrak to make sure technologies are interoperable and work hard on the funds in the implementation of your system. i want to point out 85% of the funds used to fund the rollout were from the state of california and local sources only 15% were federal. ptc is clearly a top priority for me and it really is for the american people. when american people hear we can prevent train accidents and deaths of people by the implementation of ptc they are also very frustrated that any railroad are not going to be meeting our deadline. i will say it like to go on record and agree to disagree with chairman denham that i don't think we should take money from california high speed rail to pay for ptc california high speed rail within their budget to make sure there's ptc o

capuano and gracious to together in the same sentence. [laughter] seriously, i would defer to your judgment, mr. chairman. ms. feinberg, you heard what csx raised about the potential conflict with the hard deadline and whether or not their continued carriage of inhalable and other hazards and passenger, can you resolve that what we had to statutorily resolve the? >> the congress is going to have to act. i cannot make a legal decision for csx based on their liability. >> and you can't give relief because of the hard deadline that was the? >> i cannot extend the deadline. >> you talked about in force and penalties. of which is like to get a little insight into the. we are looking forward up and there's a lot of history here, a lot of questions about how we got to this point and now some people are much closer to meeting the deadline than others et cetera. are you looking at penalties that exact funds from the railroad? wouldn't it be better if you mandate everybody put together a schedule that you would approve or not approve in terms of ho

capuano has been very gracious. he has skipped his time so that others may go first. >> i don't think you and cap wana certainly do in the same sense. ms. fineberg, you heard what about the potential conflict and whether or not if they continue their courage of other passengers. can you resolve that? >> the congress is going to have to act. i cannot make a little delitigation. and i did leave because of the heart -- deadline. >> i cannot expand the deadline. >> you talked inforce. i would like to get a little insight on that. >> there's a lot of history here that -- a lot of questions about how we got to this point and how much people are closer to meeting the deadline everett. so these are penaltys that exact funds from the railroads. wouldn't it be better if you main date everybody puts together a schedule that you would approve or not approve in terms of how they can be nut benchmarks. and that would be extending the deadline that would be the argument. the deadline is the deadline and if we communicate to railro

capuano. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome to the members of the board. i'm looking forward to your testimony. we want answers and more than anything else, they need to be right and not just speculation. i also want to comment that i know many people along the northeast corridor and particularly those in philadelphia, my friend congressman brady and my friend are watching this closely and they want answers, as well and they'll be keeping a close eye on this. i guess i'm looking forward to the specific lessons we learned and also the lessons that congress has learned and what should our priorities be. we talk a good game, are we going to fund this or are we not going to fund this? ptc is not new and not limited just to amtrak. positive train control issued across the country of every rail line in this country. are we going to require it or are we not? everybody here knows we don't want to talk about it and there are proposals floating around congress to delay it even further and we all understand the realities of the costs involved and those are questions

capuano: are these normal procedures? mr. hart: we look at cell phones all the time because we're seeing it so frequently. mr. capuano: like everyone else i'm frustrated the cell phone thing is not celtsed yet but i presume you have some general information about what has happened and you've been reluctant to say it because you're dotting your i's and crossing your t's which is exactly what i want you to do. it would be nice if you could do that now. i hope it's soon. i assume it will be. nonetheless, i guess i'm willing to wait. on seat belts ms. feinberg, you're not as old as i am. when i was a kid, we didn't have seat belts in the car. we had them -- i'm not even sure we had them. i take it back. i used to be thrown in the back of a station wagon and we could play all day long and run around the back of the station wagon until my mother and father turned around the made the threat, sit down and shut up or i'll stop this car. every kid my able heard that but yet we put seat belts in cars. you restricted my freedom, now i ca

chairman danham and subcommittee member capuano, and members of the committee. promoting the safety of life and property through use of wiring, radio communication is the top fcc priority. the fcc helps coordinate spectrum and manage the historic presserivation in environmental reviews of the polls and antennas used to support positive train control of ptc systems. because the fcc was given no mandate to set aside spectrum for ptc we have been working with the railroad since 2008 to identify spectrum on the secondary market. the fcc has acted swiftly to approve transactions including the freight railroad spectrum nationwide and amtrak in the northeastern corridor and enabling and better testing ptc employment. the commission plays no role in designing or assessing the roll of ptc technology. the railroads are responsible for ptc design and deployment. the country's freight lead the way for securing ptc. they have acquired nationwide spectrum in the 220-222 mega hertz band. they focused on this once the ptc was established and they drove other railroads, includin

. >> congressman mike capuano of massachusetts is agreeing with trey gowdy saying there should be anent umpire like a judge to look at hillary clinton's server. >> i think there is a fair question when you use the bulk of your time on a private e-mail server, to have some neutral observer some individual judge everybody trusts to make a determination as to what is and what is not appropriately subject to public scrutiny. >> capuano says he thinks it would be a political witch-hunt for congress to go through the server. a democrat saying a judge should look at this not on the clinton talking points. >> ed henry, thanks much. >>> time to check in with harris faulkner in for shep today. >> yet another embarrassment for the irs. a rm toer worker at the tax agency just confessed to stealing taxpayers' identity to pocket hundreds of thousands of dollars. already the irs warned people a group of sophisticated thieves stole taxpayers' personal information. now we know it's more than the professional criminal. we need to be worried about when fee file our taxes. any way to be sure our 0 ident

capuano. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome to the members of the board. i'm looking forward to your testimony testimony. we want answers and more than anything else, they need to be right and not just speculation. i also want to comment that i know many people along the northeast corridor and particularly those in philadelphia, my friend congressman brady and my friend are watching this closely and they want answers as well and they'll be keeping a close eye on this. i guess i'm looking forward to the specific lessons we learned and also the lessons that congress has learned and what should our priorities be. we talk a good game, are we going to fund this or are we not going to fund this? ptc is not new and not limited just to amtrak. positive train control issued across the country of every rail line in this country. are we going to require it or are we not? everybody here knows we don't want to talk about it and there are proposals floating around congress to delay it even further and we all understand the realities of the costs involved and those are q

capuano, working with you and helping to understand how we can resolve the problems in the future. thank you. i yield back. >> thank you mr. chairman. i want to thank the board, the panel for the testimony you've had. it's very thoughtful and very difficult decision to make. i would like to ask you, is the ntsb taking a look at the decisions on prioritization of the ptc, or is that beyond the scope of your normal activities? >> we would look at the specific event and determine what needs to be done to prevent that from happening again? >> but you wouldn't be in the business of determining whether the prioritization made by amtrak or others, ptc, let's assume everybody did ptc tomorrow, there can't be implemented tomorrow. every rail company in the country would have to determine what do we do second, third fourth, fifth? that would not be in the normal per view? that would be correct. exactly how we would lead that to the implement. >> that's fair enough. that's what i expected. miss feinberg, do you agree with mr. boardman's comments that amtrak will reach the december 2015 deadli

capuano. >> thank you mr. chairman. welcome back mr. secretary. mr. secretary, i know we've mentioned the fha. i want to be clear, if i'm correct, as i understand it not a single penny of general fund taxpayer dollars has been spent to help the fha. is that correct? >> that is right. >> and as i understand it by the way, happy birthday at 50 years old and all that. in those 50 years as i read it there have been five republican presidents serving 28 of those 50 years. if any of those five presidents, mr. nixon, mr. ford mr. reagan and mr. bush did any of them shut down hud? >> no. >> did any of them admit defeat in hud's mission? >> no. >> but today yet we hear that it's a failed mission and we should shut it down. i guess that would come as a surprise to mr. reagan and others. prior to hud, were there any programs anywhere to help seniors find decent affordable housing? >> no, with the advent of hud, that really led to the assistance of the elderly -- >> so without hud, there would be no, not less but none, there would be no senior housing programings

capuano. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome back, mr. secretary. mr.retary, i know we've mentioned the fha. i want to be clear, if i'm correct, as i understand it, not a single penny of general fund taxpayer dollars has been spent to help the fha. is that correct? >> that's right. >> okay. and as i understand it, again, by the way, happy birthday, 50 years old and all that. in those 50 years as i read it, there have been five republican presidents serving 28 of those 50 years. did any of those five republican presidents, mr. nixon, mr. ford mr. reagan, mr. bush, and mr. bush, did any of them shut down hud? >> no of course not. >> did any of them admit defeat in hud's mission? >> no. >> but today we're hearing that hud is a failed agency and we should probably close it down. i guess that would come as a surprise to mr. reagan and others. prior to hud were there any programs anywhere to help seniors find decent, affordable housing? >> no. with the advent of hud that really led to the assistance -- >> without hud there who be no not less but none, there w

capuano with respect to the national debt. national debt is not in the f-stock report or identified that the national debt is a good story to tell and number two it isn't a threat to our economy and i think you answered both affirming. do you agree? >> i believe in having a fiscal policy that last for the long long term. if you look at what we inherited the stability we have is a world of improvement and there is work to do. >> the question is the debt itself and president obama referred to it as a $10 trillion national debt is thought moral. today the clock above us at the hearing is $18 trillion 159 billion -- it is going up a million dollars a minute. is that a good story? >> it is. the deficit came down as the percentage of gdp factors. >> new administration and speaker that took off in january of 2011 and because of the fiscal restraint of federal spending and growth of the economy the annual operating deficit is coming down but the national debt is continuing to rise. >> i don't think it would be for the good economy to

capuano. >> thank you, mr. chairman. welcome back mr. secretary. to be clear and correct.s i understand it not a single penny a general fund taxpayer dollars has been spent to help the fha. is that correct? >> that is right. >> as i understand it, by the way, happy birthday, 50 years old and all of that. and that's 50 years there's been five republican president serving 28 of those 50 years. in any of those five presidents mr. nixon mr. ford, mr. bush and mr. bush, did any of them shut down hud? >> now come up horse not. >> did any of them admit defeat? >> no. >> today we hear how we hear hud is a failed agency and we should close it down. .com is a surprise to mr. reagan and others. prior to hud was there any programs anywhere to help seniors find decent affordable housing? >> with the advent of hud that led to the assistants -- >> without hud there'd be no not less, but no senior housing programs in this country whatsoever. >> that is right. if not hud, then no one. >> so i guess i've heard a lot of criticism. i believe in giving elected officials what they want whenever