carl rove, crosby stills and nash, and surfing dogs. dumb is next. >> bill: back of the book segment tonight, dumbest things of the week, ms. arthel is off this evening. so it's just me and gutfeld, fill in your own dumb joke here. all right. gutfeld. i'm going to begin with carl rove. now, earlier this week nancy pelosi said she could have had mr. rove arrested, she, nancy pelosi, in the u.s. attorney's case. you may remember that 8 attorneys were fired by the bush administration. some people thought mr. rove was behind it here is what carl rove said about that. >> it's nice to know the speaker pelosi wanted to have me arrested. it's nice to know that she thinks she had the power to. you know, she sounds a little bit like inspector clueso and mad queen but speaker pelosi was dead wrong in her assertion. >> bill: up top, i don't know whether you were paying attention because you know your attention span. but we mocked nancy pelosi for saying hey, this isn't about attorney general holder and suppressing documents and fast and furious. th

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carl rove and bob beckel will tell us what they are.er, high school students are now smoking pot more than they are smoking cigarettes. we told you this would happen. those reports after these messages. >> bill: right now there are problems in both the obama and romney campaigns. that's not unusual running for presidents is a very complicated thing. today the president was in new york city at ground zero. and then he had a little dinner at sara jessica parker's house raising money. this has not been a good stretch for mr. obama who remains 4 points against mitt romney. carl rove joins us now. i want you to tell us about the romney campaign. we are switching it up. we want you to say what the problems are in the romney deal and beckel who is like shaking now. he has to criticize the obama campaign. so, what would you say is the major problem right now for the romney people? >> well, it is responding to the obama narrative that he is a vampire capitalist and untrustworthy of being in the oval office. the obama campaign has sort of attacke

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that is the carl rove playbook. the other is go after the weakness.ir brilliant innovation was to go after the politicians' strength. if you can do that, he will collapse like a house of cards. >> even if it is lying about someone military service like john kerry? >> right. if obama loses, it will be because of the economy and carl rove's money that he is getting from the billionaires, not because they have been able to take him down on national security. >> david, they want to take this all the way back to ken starr and special counsel with unlimited deadline who can dog this right the way through and beyond the next election. >> all of the things they complained about when patrick fitzgerald was doing the scooter libby leak. they know "the hill" leaks as much about the white house when it comes to security matters. as they said earlier, they were not at all concerned about the leaks in the bush years let alone the valerie plame leak. this is a partisan attack. i understand leaks can be a problem, but they are not always a problem. they are always fo

when you were at that aspen conference, you wowed a room of republicans, i'll never forget even carl rove even applauding for you. you said at the end, harve, let's go out, we went to boogies in aspen. and we ate hamburgers and french flies. >> when i had all these stents put in. i wanted to see if i could live to be a grandfather. so i just went all the way. now i try to eat some salmon once a week. but i don't miss any of that. getting rid of the dairy was great, getting rid of the meat was great, i just don't miss it. not everybody is as vulnerable to this as i am. all of us produce a certain amount of enzymes that destroy the plaque. i feel great, lost a bunch of weight. >> you look great. >> but the main thing is we can't let these kids grow up to have a shorter life expeck tansi of their parent. >> first of all, if you look at the american health care system, spending almost 10% of income on health care, that's a big reason people don't get pay raises, small businesses want to give their employees pay raises, they have to spend it on health care instead, it's killing us. of the tril

if there is a snapshot we are curious about the moment where joe biden turns around to our friend carl roveid there do you. >> i was sitting next to carl there on the left. >> there is biden turning to carl. >> everybody was sitting down. and i could not hear him and i actually don't think carl heard him either. but i do think it was friendly. >> talking about food or something. >> i took carl as my date. basically we went in solidarity. as we were going to go through the receiving line i said carl, wait, should we go to this? we were walking in and president obama had a great line he said oh, carl rove, the guy who is trying to get my portrait up here early? >> that is a good line. >> it was sweet. then president and mrs. obama had a reception for all the people and friends and family that had gathered for president bush in the east room. i'm sure they are probably thinking when are these people leaving because they were dragging us out. it was fun to see some of those staff at the white house that we hadn't seen in three years. >> if only that tone. lasted about five minutes whatever. >>

. >> bill: joining us from washington is fox news analyst carl rove. here is how good my staff is mary katharine ham reference add sound bite that president obama said that seems to contradict his stance now on illegal immigration. we already got it pulled. let's roll the tape. >> we are doing everything we can administratively but the fact of the matter is there are laws on the book that i have to enforce. i think that there a great disservice done to the cause of getting the dream act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow by myself i can go and do these things. it's just not true. >> bill: wow. that's pretty stunning your staff watches megyn kelly who introduced that slice of tape a couple of days ago. you are right president obama a year ago said i don't have the right to could this and that authority still does not exist for hill to say we will selectively apply the laws of the united states. not case individual case by case by case but by class. we will exempt a class of people from the statute

he made a statement -- carl rove said mitt romney shrink the money gap. put this into perspective because in 2008, barack obama opted out of federal mentioned funds in the general election. both parties are opting out of the federal matching funds that they typically get at the convention, meaning this is a campaign that could raise $750,000 in equal that for the republicans in the romney campaign. -- antti call for them -- antti = for the republicans in the the romney campaign. guest: there are a lot of democrats who say the president has ushered in this era of the unlamented money in federal campaigns by for going public funds in his 2008 race. that gave him an $800 million advantage over his opponent, but the obama campaign is facing the possibility of not being able to match or exceed that number from the last time around. i think you are searing -- hearing a lot about the influence of outside money because they are seeing themselves being outmatched for the first time. democrat or democrat, this is a scary process. and it could mean president obama m

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he made a statement -- carl rove said mitt romney shrink the money gap. put this into perspective because in 2008, barack obama opted out of federal mentioned funds in the general election. both parties are opting out of the federal matching funds that they typically get at the convention, meaning this is a campaign that could raise $750,000 in equal that for the republicans in the romney campaign. -- antti call for them -- antti = for the republicans in the the romney campaign. guest: there are a lot of democrats who say the president has ushered in this era of the unlamented money in federal campaigns by for going public funds in his 2008 race. that gave him an $800 million advantage over his opponent, but the obama campaign is facing the possibility of not being able to match or exceed that number from the last time around. i think you are searing -- hearing a lot about the influence of outside money because they are seeing themselves being outmatched for the first time. democrat or democrat, this is a scary process. and it could mean president obama m

i'm watching that movement that broke the back of carl rove's strangle hold on our congress who electedican president. i'm watching that movement that inspired the world, that shocked the world, that stunned the world, in the moment of maximum peril now, sit down. there are people in this country who are drowning on dry land. they are drowning economically on dry land. they need a movement that is willing to stand with them. yet, and yet, there is this reluctance. we saw in wisconsin what happened when we put our min mum against -- minimum against our opponents' maximum. the people in wisconsin fought beautifully and bravely, but help was not on the way. they had to fight against 13 billionaires, not just the koch brothers, but like the koch basketball team, a whole squadron of billionaires, only one of whom lived in wisconsin. our opponents did their maximum. most of us did our minimum, and we saw what happened. there's a question now that falls upon this conference. are we going to let the tea party govern america? is that the movement we are? can we not find some lessons from 2008 an

>> call carl rove on that and have him dissect. >> let's do that and get him in the genie pants.d old archive tape of him doing the mc hammer. >> i think i did 2 legit to quit. >> this is what do you at your house on a normal weekend. >> glory days. >> i have headlines. chaos has erupted inside one of toronto's busiest malls after a gunman opened fire at a crowded food cart. >> everyone, exit the mall you can see police there rushing people out of the center. on the moment he is still on the loose. a 25-year-old man was killed. at least seven others. said to be in critical condition at this hour. >> >> when he pulled a gun he started firing up in the air and started yelling. it was hard to hear exactly what he was saying because a bunch of people were screaming. everyone panicked. >> you saw people like faces. we all ran into a little room in h and m. we just kept quiet there until safety came. >> police say the man who died may have been targeted. >> you are about to look at new video of leon panetta as he makes history. he arrived overnight in vietnam. >> the reason i came here

jon: karl rove, carl, thank you. >> you bet. [explosions] jenna: right now new amateur video out of syria showing the city of homs once again under attack. rockets ripping through buildings there. rebels are still clinging to the city while activists say week of shelling on another city forced the opposition out. syria is accusing our country, the united states, of interfering after washington expressed concern that the assad regime is planning yet another massacre of civilians. if that hasn't already happened. connor powell live in jerusalem with more. conor? >> reporter: jenna, both sides appear to be gaining new equipment in the fight in syria. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton accusing russia of sending attack helicopters to the assad regime to use on syrian civilians and the rebel groups in syria. now the assad regime and russia deny they're using these type of tactics, targeting civilians and things like that in syria but syria is basically saying to the united states to stay out of the internal affairs of syria and

and happened 40 years after family patriarch carl gave his life to the wire and the rove of the crowd>> this is the first terrifying visual op obstacle. >> reporter: with that name long tainted by tragedy, nik knew a fall would just make it worse. with months of training he didn't know what this moment would feel like. >> 700,000 gallons percent second cascading. >> reporter: holding his balance at times through a blinding mist and a shaking wire. even then he sounded like a man on a nature walk. >> oh, my god, an unbelievable view, i am so blessed to be in the position i am to be the first person in the world right here. >> reporter: for the first time in his career, wallenda reluctantly agreed to wear a safety harness but in the end didn't need it. with' steady pace crossed four football fields in 20 minutes. the steady cloud seemed visible in those final moments. >> i'm strained, i'm drained. this is so physical. >> reporter: that's a consummate showman showing drama before the victory sprint. >> the 26th minute of the walk. nik wallenda. >> reporter: and once he cleared canadian c

in the bush administration tim griffin, a protege of karl rove was implicated in a vote purging scandal, or scheme from the 2004 election. carle of the biggest funders to the super pacs and why are we surprised here again it is the same thing? why don't we, and your point is well taken, but we need an ongoing national strategy, and how did some of the voter i.d. laws get passed in the first place? why weren'ter were fighting them back harder when they were proposed? why weren't we fighting harder in florida and in a lot of groups doing a lot of great work, but it feels like the piecemeal and then we get to the point where it is may or june, and we realize now that we are worried, oh, my god, people can't vote and same-day registration, and where with are the machines going to be, and have it happen as it happens and rather than the forethought to get ahead of it. >> i like the idea of people power and we can push back against this, and i also think that the whole reason that the sorts of laws work is that it is the folks with the fewest resources in a variety of human and financial resources who are the most easily discourage

fox news contributor karl rove is a former senior adviser and deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. he joins us live. carl, good to see you. look, it's obviously a very tight race, but i want to put up a map of the united states, and we've highlighted 12 key swing states. there they are. and the president leads governor romney 50-42% in those key swing states what do you make of that? >> well, you touched on it, that looks like a good lead. let's put it, however, in context. in 2008 in those same 12 states, president obama beat senator mccain by a 55-45 margin, a 10-point lead. today he is at 50-42, so there's been a diminution of his strength in these states. it probably shows the advantage of the $68 million that president obama and his allies will have put on tv between the 7th of may and the 2nd of july. and you also mentioned independents. these are the people who are, obviously, going to settle the election. in 2008 president obama had an eight-point margin among this group. today he has in "the wall street journal"/nbc poll a four-point margin. so we're a long way from november, but there's good ne