carol maloney. look at that. i mean look at that race. carolyn maloney had a race, it was a disaster. ballots are missing and fraught. these are small races. look at what happened in virginia. look at what happened in various other parts of the country. and these aren't 80 million or 50 million or 20 million votes, these are small congressional elections where in theory it is easy. so what will happen on november 3rd when somebody is leading and they said, well, we haven't counted the ballots, we have millions of ballots to count. it is a disaster. everyone knows it is a disaster and i don't expect people here to say, although some people will say it, everyone knows you don't have to know politics to

adam schiff, who led us in this discussion, chairman jerry nadler of the judiciary committee, carol maloney of the oversight and reform committee, chairman john harmon of the budget committee, chair love kin who will be with us virtually, chairman elliott engle from foreign affairs and chairman richie neil, chair of the ways and means committee. our founders, in their wisdom, put guardrails into the constitution of the united states because they knew that someone might overplay his or her hand. they probably could not envision a president who would kick over the guardrails and that the senate of the united states would be complicit in that undermining of the constitution of the united states, ignoring, dishonoring the oath of office that we all take to protect and defend the constitution of the united states and everything that the constitution stands for. during this once in a generation moment, the congress has a sacred obligation for the people to defend the rule of law and restore accountability and basic ethics to the government, and that is exactly what we are doing with protect our d

carol maloney. look at that. i mean look at that race. carolyn maloney had a race, it was a disaster. ballots are missing and fraught. these are small races. look at what happened in virginia. look at what happened in various other parts of the country. and these aren't 80 million or 50 million or 20 million votes, these are small congressional elections where in theory it is easy. so what will happen on november 3rd when somebody is leading and they said, well, we haven't counted the ballots, we have millions of ballots to count. it is a disaster. everyone knows it is a disaster and i don't expect people here to say, although some people will say it, everyone knows you don't have to know politics to know, and that has nothing to do with post office by the way, where are these ballots going, who is sending them, who is signing them. you have in nevada, you have a governor that signed something where he doesn't even want verification of the signature. so he doesn't want verification of the signature. so i think it is going to be a terrible

this is what carol maloney said in her statement. she said if these allegations are true mr.ace criminal exposure for his actions in north carolina and for lying to a committee indoath. i believe the board of governors must take emergency action to immediately suspend mr. dejoy who they never should have selected in the first place. she's referring to that testimony in which he denied reimbursing contributions to the president's campaign so we'll see how that goes and plays out going forward but dejoy for his part issued his own statement from the u.s. postal service saying during his leadership of new breed logistics, a north carolina-based company, mr. dejoy sought and received legal advice on elections law including the law of political contributions to ensure that he new breed logistics and any person affiliated with new breed fully complied with any and all laws. pllt dejoy believes that all campaign fund-raising laws and regulations should be complied with in all respects and, john, of course, hovering over all of this, the reason why this is so critical on the hishlg t

the "post" writes this -- carol maloney said she is opening an investigation on the matter and is calling for dejoy's immediate suspension. it was reported mr. dejoy was never notified by the new breed employees referenced by the "washington post" of any pressure they might have felt to make a political contribution, and he regrets if any employee felt uncomfortable for any reason. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny secevallos. it doesn't seem like there's any denial there. it's interesting to say the least. what part, first, of campaign finance law here is alleged to have been violated, and how would it need to be proven in a court of law? >> first, that denial, that's a classic one. if you're accused of one, call it outrageous and move on without actually denying it. i think that's what you're saying. >> no, no, no. in his testimony -- let me just clarify. in his test he actually said, yeah, that's outrageous, but from this spokesman for dejoy -- i'll just read it again. mr. dejoy was never notified by the new breed's reference by any pressure they may have felt and he regrets if

. >> your colleague, congressman carol maloney says these allegations mean he may have, in fact, liedthe oversight committee last month. what was he asked about then and is it possible that he perjured himself? will your committee hear more from him? >> it is. i remember him being asked specifically, defer reimburse anyone for making a contribution, and he said no. in fact, he was outraged that congressman krishnamurthi was even bringing that up. he has a more fundamental problem of the anyone who is close to politics knows that the cardinal sin is you cannot reimburse someone for making a political contribution. there are plenty of people who are sitting in jail for that. so, regardless of whether he was overseeing the post office or whether he was in any part of government, he should not be there, given the seriousness of these charges. >> so, if it is proven, if these allegations are proven to be true, might he be facing jail time? >> yes. there are a lot of other people who have faced jail time for exactly this crime. you cannot say that -- have someone contribute to a candidate a

the carol maloney election took weeks to solve, but there were no allegations of fraud.e are some jurisdictions who have not done enough to be certain that they're ready for this onslaught of ballots. but seeing the problems that occurred during the primaries, a number of jurisdictions have taken steps to be able to make that better. there's funding from private sources that republicans are also trying to stop from getting in to improve certain big cities like philadelphia. >> you worry that the president is chilling his own vote, that because he's telling people not to do there are people with legitimate concerns about coronavirus that now won't vote by absentee if they were going to vote for him because he's telling them it doesn't work? >> it's a mystifying strategy. in many elections in which i've worked republicans have had incredible absentee ballot programs. the president saying don't go out and vote can be a huge mistake because there are people as you point out may not go out to vote. he, in fact, is suppressing his own vote. there's bad weather on election day

with the healthcare facilities and as carol maloney said the 23000 lives of covid-19 and in my district and i can tell you from first-hand experience it will be felt for generations. this is why it's all the more enraging to learn that the president and his administration to mislead the public by willfully spreading misinformation of covid-19 as far back as early february. this is cost tens of thousandsof of lives and disrupted millions of families with the job losses but the covid-19 pandemic risks being a drag on the economic recovery with the hardest hit communities. and new york is no exception. and with those tax revenues new york state faces over $30 billion deficit and new york city and 9 billion-dollar deficit. this is made worse from the trump tax cuts the federal government doesn't past i report to the nation's government cities and states across the nation which will local economyhe and then to close the gap public transit healthcare and education social programs and sanitation fire, policing and those a that impact americans but those who had already bornene the brunt in par