i would, i would love to meet danny devito. >> so we can't make fun of casey anthony? you guys like her? come on. >> too soon. somebody just yelled too soon. >> what you mean. that doesn't really make sense. let me do my job, your job is to sit there. i think that is a first that the guest has scolded the audience. it was a bunch of hackles. obviously they're all from florida. it was a murder of hecklers. you just lost your wallet. >> i did but then i found it. [applause] that's the easiest applause i've ever gotten, how to keep track of your belongings that you should keep track of as a 30-year-old woman. >> i to share jo's fear of artificial. [inaudible] they can just show up anywhere and put stuff on it. i've honestly feel bad for joe. he would like to run for president, apparently there's a portion of the united states that wants to support him, but his own party hates him because he's white which, damn, i guess that's progress. first time in my lifetime i ever see a dude try to get off camera because he's white. when he does the interview he walked away from a cam

>> i was just going to say -- >> oh, so we can't make fun of casey anthony? you guys like her? come on. >> too soon. >> greg: somebody just yelled too soon. >> what do you mean too soon. it doesn't make sense in this instance. let me do my job. your job, is to sit there. thanks for that. >> [applause] >> greg: that is a first that a guest has scolded the audience >> kat: it was a heckler. greg: it wasn't. >> it was a bunch of heckles. obviously they're all from florida. >> she was innocent. >> yeah, i've had a day. i did just lose my wallet but then i found it. >> [applause] >> that's the easiest applause i've ever gotten, keeping track of the belongings i should keep track of as a 30-year-old woman. >> greg: lose your wallet more often. >> i was going to say i too share of joe's fear of artificial islands. they could just show up anywhere i mean, with stuff on it. and do you know what? i honestly feel bad for joe. he really, he would like to run for president, apparently there's a portion of the united states that wants to support him , but his own party hates him because he's

king assassinations, as well as in other high-profile cases including those of phil specter and casey anthonybt that this is not a healing wound. >> reporter: in a darkened courtroom, spitz showed photos and talked about that cut inside cory's mouth. curtis had told police his wife had fallen in the days before she died, his explanation for that injury. but this expert said he saw no signs the cut was an old one. >> there's no evidence of healing. so this looks like at the time it was incurred. >> reporter: the abrasion on the outside of the lip and the cut inside indicated to spitz that an object, like a pillow, had been placed on cory's face shortly before she died. >> this is not an accident, this is not a natural death, this is not a suicide, this is a homicide. >> reporter: then came testimony the first jury never got to hear, and it was explosive. for this trial, the judge allowed erika gomez, wife number two, to testify. remember when we interviewed her, she wanted to protect her identity. but now on the witness stand, she could no longer be shielded by a disguise. >> he violently atta

anthony kennedy. in 1992, in a case called casey v. pennsylvania, he worked this -- at the heart of liberty is the right to define one's own concept of existence, of meaning, of the universe, and of the mysteries of human life. --is the pelagianism vision liberty is the right to choose your own meaning, define your own values, emancipate yourself from god by creating your own self. this notion of freedom says you can emancipate yourself not just from god, but also from society, from family, from tradition. the view says the individual is most free when he or she is most alone, able to choose his or her own way without interference. family and tradition, neighbors and church, these things get in the way of uninhibited free choice. and as i dim of freedom is one of our cultural leaders have embraced for decades now. here's the paradox -- for all the big talk about individual freedom, this philosophy has made american society more hierarchical and made it more elitist. this is no accident. pelagius was most popular with the old senatorial

casey verses planned parenthood that i know you talked about. this is undue burden. my prediction in part before justice anthonyedy retired, we'll see a death by a thousand paper cuts approach to roe v. wade. states would keep passing laws where well we'll restrict abortion in this way and a little bit more to the point where it is just a holly protection. this is different. this is a full assault on roe v. wade. that's what we are increasingly seeing from states. >> let's talk about the states that do have the so-called heartbeat law. we got them in missouri and kentucky and mississippi and ohio and in georgia. there are other lawsuits that are being planned. if this is a death by a thousand paper cuts on roe v. wade, are these lawsuits effective way to push back against that? >> well, i think absolutely. what we have seen is that these particular laws have been passed largely since justice brett kavanaugh joins the supreme court that none of them have gone into effect. litigation has been enormously effective at protecting a women's right to choose. other heartbeat laws and even more restricted laws that came