and so that's how i got -- and once i got to the catholic school then i became catholic. tavis: you didn't grow up catholic but you became catholic when you went to this school? >> a very devout catholic. >> tavis: my question still works. what i really wanted to ask was -- and this is not -- when we tend to think to have movement and king and we tend to think of blacknologist the south in baptist churches, we don't tend to think of catholics in the movement. you know where i'm going with this. was that ever an issue for you? how was that for a catholic girl in the movement when all of these black baptists, etc.? >> i fit in. there were a lot of, you know, songs that i didn't know and some of the culture was different for me. and they used to tease me. tavis: sure. >> they would say things like the reverend likes to tease me and said yeah, diane would get excited about the sermon and she would shout too but she would say hail mary's. so they had a lot of jokes. [laughter] tavis: it occurred to me checking out this freedom ride, it is a wonderful piece, american express ha

most national holidays come from the catholic church calendar, and once a year catholics from all overflood the streets of paris as they leave on a three-day, 75-mile pilgrimage to the cathedral of chartres. >> but people don't like it. they don't like it, even catholics. the pilgrimage to chartres? those are fundamentalists, traditionalists. our culture erases religion. we're here but we don't show ourselves. >> olivier bobineau teaches the sociology of religion and lives himself. he's a catholic who wears a small cross on a chain that he keeps hidden most of the time. but one night, at a meeting with high government officials so you leaned forward, you could see it, and somebody said -- >> careful. >> put that away. >> yeah. today it's unimaginable to go against the state, against the public space, and to show a cross, a skullcap, a veil. it's impossible. it's wanting to destroy the state. that's what the french feel. the majority of french people do not think it's possible to be french and muslim. most french people think you can't be a citizen and believe in god. we are the most at

[bonoli speaking italian] [translator] yes, i think that catholic couples and even young italian catholics have for some time now made a distinction between their religious conscience and what might be considered as a dictate from the church. therefore, they don't feel bound within their conscience to take notice of the rules which they probably don't agree with, but this doesn't mean that they feel any less catholic. [speaking italian] [translator] i believe, and i'm a catholic, et cetera, but life has to be practical. you have to try and act according to your various needs, according to your personal problems, the type of family, and the type of work you do. don mario picchi lives in rome and has been a catholic priest for the last 36 years. [picchi speaking italian] [translator] undoubtedly, religious faith has weakened. i think it is probably partly due to the fact that it has been a very superficial faith. we probably have less worshippers today, but i would say that the ones who remain are a little more convinced. years ago, faith was often something you wore like a sunday outfit, yo

roman catholics. so, thomas mast, the german protestant immigrant came over, one the great political cartoonists of the day in the 1850s and 1860s. he gave us santa claus, the democratic donkey and the republican elephant, and here he has a cartoon. many people couldn't read in those days, but they could, in fact, understand cartoons, and here's a cartoon which shows -- you may think these are crocodiles coming to shore, but they are the roman catholic church coming to tank our children. in the background, there's not the white house, but it is st. peter's cathedral, and although you can't see it on this, up here it says taminy hall. [laughter] that hall, of course, is the democratic party organization of new york, and thomas mast was a republican. well, the republican party was the first major evangelical party in america founded in 1854 bringing together the anti-catholic wing of the party with the anti-slavery wing, and here the anti-catholic wing of the party. the american patriot. it was a party

exterminating roman catholics. so, thomas nath, the german protestant immigrant came over and he was one of the great political cartoonists of the day in the 1850s, 1860s. he gave a santa claus. he gave us the democratic donkey and the republican elephant and here he has a cartoon. of course many people couldn't read in those days but they could in fact understand cartoons. here he has a cartoon which shows, you may think these are crocodiles coming ashore but actually they are -- of the roman catholic church and they're coming to take her children. in the background is not the white house but st. peter's cathedral. although you can't see it, appear it says timothy hall and tammany hall is the democratic party organization of new york, and thomas nast was a republican. republican party was the first major evangelical party in america. it was founded in 1854 and it rocked together the anti-catholic wing of the party with the anti-slavery wing. and here is the anti-catholic wing of the party. the american patriots. i

meet mark and dean. >> i'm protestant. >> and i'm a catholic. >> reporter: new to the sport of basketballthey had to put aside their differences to learn how to play. >> when we're on the court practicing together, the religion is just out the window. >> i just know that they are my teammates. and i'll always stick with them. >> reporter: now they're not only practicing together, they hang out off the court too. >> well, the friendships i've made through full court peace have just been amazing. >> like anytime they come knock on my door, i bring them in, give them a bed to sleep because just they're really, really nice guys. >> reporter: after weekly practices alternating between the catholic and protestant schools, the season culminates with a trip to the united states. >> i think it's important for them to come to america because america is a melting pot and protestants and catholics specifically get along very well in the states. there's no conflict. >> reporter: once they make it stateside, the boys stay with host families. >> i had a family called the coons, like robert, judy, and th

anyhow, when i got there, the church was one of the largest catholic churches in the city. over 3500 families. it was a going operation and had been almost since its beginning back in 1916 or so, and i knew right away that it wasn't going to be just a normal assignment because the neighborhood was beginning to change. the coming of the black population as you know if you lived anywhere on the south side, you know there was a slow deliberate migration from the ghetto just south of the loop beginning in the 50s and moving, moving steadily, block by block, neighborhood by neighborhood, and in 1964, the first black families had just moved into the neighborhood so the people were in a considerable state of alarm because they had seen what had happened in so many of the other neighborhoods, but there was a difference at the church, and that was the pastor, your grandmother would have known him well, senior john mcmahon decided we're not just going to pick up and run because the blacks are moving in. we'll turn this into the first integrated neighborhood into chicago, and he put a

what do catholics care about? catholics care about the strength of our nation, our families, and especially our children and their education. as i've already said, they're pro-life, pro-marriage, and they're pro-america. they're social conservatives who believe in the exceptional nature and history and destiny of our nation. but they also understand that a bad economy hurts the family and that a bad economy has to be attended to, but not without standing up for life, marriage, and the family. that's not purity. as i said, that's principle. and that's prudence. one thing that republicans need to understand about catholics, you don't go to catholics the way you go to evangelicals. you don't use the same tone. you don't use the same approach. catholic goes to any parish on sundays, and you'll find catholics don't like to be preached to like this. you don't see that. coming from the priest in the pulpit. i used to be a baptist. i'm a convert. so i know both sides. catholics like to be spoken to in a different way. the

i'm a catholic.unning for high office. >> well, i think that you have to understand that we are not a religious democracy. that you know, we -- religion to me is a personal thing. and so you know, i have to make certain decisions. my decisions are going to be based -- made based on what i think is best for all the people of new jersey. now, my catholicism informs part of who i am. but it does not rule who i am. and so i -- >> i'll ask you what i asked him. and he refused to answer. >> okay. >> is homosexuality a sin? >> well, my religion says it's a sin. i mean, i think -- but for me i don't -- i've always believed that people are born with the predisposition to be homosexual. and so i think if someone is born that way it's very difficult to say then that that's a sin. but i understand that my church says that. but for me personally i don't look upon someone who's homosexual as a sinner. >> you support civil union partnerships -- >> i do. >> -- but you don't support gay marriage. can you see a situat

, exterm mating roman catholics. so thomas mass, the german protestant immigrant, came over, and he was one of the great political cartoonists of the day in the 1860s, he gave us santa claus, he gave us the democratic donkey and the republican elephant, and here he has a cartoon. and, of course, many people couldn't read in those days, but they could, in fact, understand cartoons. and here he has a cartoon which shows, you may think these are crocodiles coming ashore, but actually they're pillars of the roman catholic church, and they're coming to take our children. and in the background is not the white house, but it is st. peter's cathedral. and although you can't see it on this, up here it says tamny hall. [laughter] and tamny hall, of course, is the democratic party organization of new york. and thomas was a republican. well, the republican party was the first major evangelical party in america, and it brought together the anti-catholic wing of the party with the anti-slavery wing. and here is the anti-catholic w

plan to create the equivalent of a national archdiocese for anglo catholics. in the newsroom, i'm chris gordon, news 4. >>> the world's largest commercial aircraft has officially landed in our area. air france began running daily service from paris to dulles airport using an airbus a-308. julie carey was there for the inaugural flight. the moment it reaches the ground, that's when you fully a preesh why the a-380 is called a super jumbo jet. with it's football field length and two -- here's the surprise for the travellers from charles de gaulle airport in paris to dulles. it's quiet on the inside. >> it flies much, much better. you cannot feel anything, even the takeoff, landing and nothing. it is so massive, so huge and the -- it was different. >> inside the a-380 flight to and from dulles has four cabin class wes a luxury first class that offers full beds, even changing rooms. this man flew in business class. >> it was quite nice to have the aircraft taking off and you can see on the big screen, it's a 15-inch screen and you can see all the -- what the aircr

benedict xvi issued an invitation to become catholic. the move came in response to anglican requests. >> we need to stay true with what we're were raised with. i felt that we were going to stay with the episcopal church that we would not stay there. he says the bishop of the episcopal diocese of washington has supported the change. >> he understood that where we are theologically is more suited for the roman catholic church. >> father louis wants to be ordained as a catholic priest. they are expected to be celibate, but he is married and will remain so. >> this is part of the generosity of the offer to anglicans. >> at first, i was an little taken aback, but i am very positive that this point. >> parishioners say they feel as though there are coming home. >> the congregation will stay in its current location. last week, they signed a three- year lease with the of his will by seas of washington with the option to purchase. -- with the episcopal diocese of washington. >>> dealing with the usual delays on the beltway. the travel lanes are o

first of all let's talk about what the president of catholic university actually said. he said you know he was upset with the women on campus for failing to civilize men. last time i checked, no woman is paying college tuition to go and train men how to behave. they are going to get an education. i think there is a sexist statement that we need to hold that president accountable for. in terms of binge drinking and hooking up and the culture, less than 10% of dorms are single sex right now. and this study that we've heard about it was 5 different dorms that were single sex. do we really know that this causes people to drink less and to frankly, follow their hormones. it's not news that young people have hormones and trying to hook up in college. so i think that by encouraging single sex segregation whether it's in housing, whether it's in actually in the classroom, we are perspective pettiating the idea that men and women are different and they need to be separated. and think about after college. first place you go is the workplace. are we supposed to segregate there, to

for the first time there's a sizeable group of catholics who say i'm no longer catholic. always had a group of catholic who say, i'm kind of lax but -- >> these are people leaving. >> one of the things i think we've got to do, matt, i i had to use a modern word, but maybe some type of marketing to find out why. why are people leaving? i think some of them are leave because of scandal. i think some of them are leaves because of materialism and temptations to the life. i thinking some are leaving because they're on one side or the other that maybe the catholic church has modernized too much and others because it hasn't modernized too much. >> when you talk about scandal, one that comes to mind is the sexual can zal of children by a priest. >> you bet. >> you said something fascinating rae cefascinate ing recently. you said you don't want it to be over. it haunted the church and it's so painful you think it should continue to haunt the church. can you explain that? >> yeah. thanks for recalling the situation. it was so horrible, tragic, nauseating, we need to keep rememberin

and there is a huge french built catholic cathedral. beautiful cathedral. and i went to mass one morning. i'm not catholic, but i was curious to goes. nobody is cecil went. very, very sparse. i was not annoyed in march. latin masses. i was at one. and then catholicism. only 10 percent catholic. most of buddhist. this is a ploy to up proliferation. and then a lineage, family lineage and worshiping family lineage was an important part of the tradition. this is it. and the war, family altars. if you live after the war and you have a relative, maybe a son who had fought for the national liberation front, south vietnam, maybe even of vietnam, you could not honor the relative who had fought from the south. the south was defeated. they had to pretend that south had not been there. in the last ten years people love felt comfortable again about displaying photographs of son sen were lost, the losing side. one can propitiate the graves to remember them. so it is really a profound every day wave. a huge transformation that is all about working out. >> host: are there

the cult of early death is a mix of catholic faith with indigenous and pagan beliefs. critics say it's the preferred faith of drug traffickers and criminals. >> scenes of devotion at a shrine in central mexico city, and the object of adoration is a peculiar one. the court of the holy death embodied by this female skeleton has become increasingly popular mexico over the last few years, even among practicing catholics. in exchange for prayers and offerings, the holy death provides protection. >> she is a protector. she helps you when you have difficult problems. she takes care of you. >> some claim that the holy death has become the face of criminals, but others say it is a religious figure like any other. the woman who set up this shrine defends the faith. after all, she said, she can't control who comes here. >> if a person is a kidnapper or a three and a follower of the holy death, that's a personal thing. each of us knows what we are doing. we know it's wrong, but it's a personal thing. >> to some, the location of this shrine provides yet more evidence of its associa

"that's why, and i've been raised in the catholic church. "i happen to have been born in a suburb here "where we're catholic, and my grandparents were before me." "why do you listen to creed?" "i don't know. that's what's on my radio station." "why do you wear-- "why do you wear thong underwear and low pants even though it's dreadfully uncomfortable?" "i don't know. britney does. so that's what i see; that's what i do." "older people, why do you vote republican? "or democrat? when there's clearly really no difference between the parties?" there really is no difference between the parties, you know? they pay lip service to some differences here and there, but when you vote vehemently democrat or republican, you are broadcasting-- to me, anyway-- that you're not doing your homework. do you know what i mean? like, you--when--like last night, when i did stand-up, and as soon as i mentioned george w. bush, some arms got folded. some heads lean-backed with the old, "okay, don't say-- this is bush country." what does that mean? what does that mean?

the violence was centered on an area where catholic and protestant areas meet.say shots were fired and petrol bombs, bricks and fireworks were front. there were reports of masked men attacking catholic homes, following attacks on protestant homes sunday. for now that's it for us here on "world one." >> thank you so much for watching us. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> ahead on this "american morning," they're coming home. troops in afghanistan about to find out when the president will make his big announcement tomorrow. a live report from the white house just ahead. >>> the casey anthony murder trial temporarily put on hold. yesterday there were no witnesses, and no jury. that didn't stop the fireworks from erupting inside the courtroom. >> ooh, it was something. >>> the republican field for president is about to grow larger as a man who once worked for president obama tries to unseat him. jon huntsman, the former utah governor is ready to take the plunge. >>> why a bank robber waited for the police to come and asked to go to jail, on this "american mo

known and useful spiritual tools i think in all religious traditions but very very well known in the catholic tradition. today we will look at retreats through the lens of valembrosa retreat center in men low park it is operated by the archdiocese of san francisco. we welcome dominican father george matanic. it is a beautiful place i don't say that because it is down the street from a foster freeze it is a beautiful place you are the executive director. we want to talk about retreats. can we spend just a few minutes, a little time on their purpose, their time, where they found their beginnings? >> retreats are times of going away for quiet,. >> sure. >> for reflection, for prayer, you are right when you say we have a beautiful facility the name comes from a retreat center. >> looking at some beautiful pictures now. >> there you go. yeah. from a bendecitne monastery called the shady glen it reflects the shady glen atmosphere. people walk on to the property and say we are in the middle of the city but you would never know it. peace and feel quiet we have some bunny rabbits on the property which

nobody can force the catholic church to marry divorced catholics.but the catholic church of course can't tell the city clerk not to issue a license, a marriage license from the government to that divorced catholic couple. so everybody agrees that this bill, like any bill, has to have a significant balance between non-discrimination on the one hand and religious freedom on the other. the good news here is that the governor, majority leader and others have been today saying that they actually believe the language looks good, that this ace question that can really be resolved. and i don't actually think that will prove to be a sticking point. >> it seems like they're debating stuff behind closed doors with nothing to do with same sex marriage. it seems like they are focusing on other issues in the state. >> well, i think in terms of the politics, the republicans are looking for ways to justify their vote for same-sex marriage. and at least a significant number of them are saying, look, i wasn't going to support this unless we protected the catholic chu

. >>> we ask you if you are catholic and you are going to receive holy communion to please follow the directions of the ushers. if you are not catholic, and you would like to have a blessing, we would like to ask you to come up to the altar and the priest will be happy to give you a blessing. >>> lord, you have come to the seashore, knight searching for the rich nor the wise. desiring only that i should follow. oh, lord, with your eyes upon me, gently smiling, you have spoken my name. all i longed for i have found by the water. at your side, i will seek -- -- >> lord,, see my my goods, my positions, in my boat you find no power, no wealth. will you accept then my net an labor. oh, lord with your eyes upon me, gently smiling you have spoken my name. all i long for i have found by the water. at your side, i will seek other shores. lord, take my hand and direct them. help me spend myself in seeking the lost. returning love for the love you gave me. oh, lord, with your eyes upon me, gently smiling, you have spoken my name. all, i long for, i have found by the water. at your side, i will s

when jewish prisoners sang the requiem to their nazi captors, that catholic mass, says terezin survivora schiff, gave prisoners a way to defy the nazis. >> the text of the latin prayers suggests that we all will be judged by the almighty, and this would include the germans. that was a promise. that the day will come when we will all be facing the final judge, and that gave us a great deal of satisfaction and hope. >> it was cathartic, therapeutic and important for them to remain dignified. they responded to the worst of mankind with the best of mankind. this is our way of fighting back. >> in the cold, filth and misery of a camp like this, a romanian-born conductor, rafael schaechter, gathered 150 fellow prisoners, and in a dank basement with just one score and a broken piano taught them by rote verdi's sublime work. choir member edgar krasa says schaechter was extraordinary. >> socially, he was a wonderful person, but once he sat behind the piano, he was a real tyrant. >> the survivors who sang in this chorus said to me that when he started work on the requiem, and this is a quote, "he

in the meantime russia's former world number one tennis player and two time grand slam champion catholic off has now been crowned russia's golf champion the national championship in the moscow region comes in but out of reports on the story of one man who triumphed in two different sports. the twentieth national tournament may go down in history as one of the most interesting so far in the woodlands there was a first ever hole in one by murray you cannot count on the second day but there was no surprise in the overall can petition where matter either channel is still the biggest name in russia the twenty five year old dominated on the greens from the very beginning showing solidly however the first russian to achieve full time membership on the leader's european tour did give her opponents if you chances on

in the program director for catholic charities. i am here today in support of the plan. i have worked on the island for 11 years. i sit on the tihdi board and the good neighbors board as well. we support this plan. i have brought a client of our program here to speak to you briefly about her experience living on the island. thank you very much. >> i have lived on treasure island for nine years, and before that, i was homeless for 13 years on the streets of san francisco, doing drugs, and i got clean and sober, and once i was clean, i needed housing. housing on treasure island save my life, me and my young son. to cut any funding for any housing for any homeless program should not be done. thank you. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i am with the laborers' union, and i would like to express our overwhelming enthusiasm for this project moving forward. i would also like to thank supervisors chu for being there from the beginning, but in particular, we want to recognize supervisor kim for being there where it counted, and the very opportunity to increase the amount of housing

often felt the same respect and awe that he experienced when entering the fragrant solitude of the catholic church, fleeing went the irish seeking refuge from the advancing harlems, the dark skin of the people making unrecognizable the prejudices they had endured when they arrived in america. the defect of memory driving them forward to separate themselves from the shadows that follow all immigrants. fleeing went the puerto ricans, escaping the same blackness, but impeled by the fear of blood, both physical and hereditary, fearing with greater horror the prospect of losing themselves in the anonymity that america forces on all of its people, both groups fought the country's wish for that homogenaity. they both retained both their irishness and puerto ricaness. both sides spoke of the ancestral home as if it was the land of milk and honey.

some of the people in the catholic and lutheran churches played up to hitler. there was a movement in which they tried to make hiterer's germany into -- hitler's germany into a christian anti-semitic force. the vast majority was just sort of silent. what can you do in the middle of all that? but he got committed very early and hung out with the whole underground of people. i think the other thing that i would say is turning point is a new today we call it the ecumenical movement n. the 1930s it was being born, and they wanted to form what became the world council of churches. it was postponed until after the war because of the war. but he was an early agent of it, and that's one of the things that served his cause. he got to conferences in the switzerland, sweden, england. the archbishop who was over anthony eden was his contact person. and what you had there, some of you have seen the movie valkyrie, but that's the circle he was with. and they are, again, aristocratic military people who wanted the allies to drop the idea of unconditional surrender. because th

. >> catholics in san freabs -- san francisco witnessed history, the ordination of married man.what happened for father jeff henry. he had previously served as a lutheran minister. >> i learned so much from my lutheran background that i realize i was catholic. >> alan: the church faces a shortage of men being ordain to the priesthood and that has toward inthe debate whether it should allow ordination of married women and men. >> b.a.r.t. is replacing cars but what riders refuse to give up. and record-breaking naval the -- rainfall in the bay area. >> mike: a's and red sox took 14 innings to decide their fate, and cody ross did all he could today ton th >> alan: a survey shows that b.a.r.t. passengers are willing to squeeze into smaller seats so they can have more room to stand and walk aboard trains. there's new cars being designed to replace the current fleet. some existing cars date back to when b.a.r.t. openin' 1973. early feedback indicates passengers like seats two inches narrower than the current ones, 22 inches. that would allow for slightly wider aisles. >> building a ne

this is a long-standing flash point between mainly protestant and catholic communities.a sort of another worrying development where a press photographer was shot in the leg. he is now in a stable condition. he's from the press association here in the uk. that followed two other shootings on monday, again two men shot in the leg as well. the police have been very candid about who they say was responsible initially for this violence. they're blaming it firmly with the loyalist paramilitary groups, the volunteer force in belfast which they say several hundred men, some of them masked were on the street. then sort of proceeded to attack homes of residents and they were shooting at both sides after that. they say six shots on monday from one side and five from the other side. with perhaps up to 700 people on the streets. not quite clear what sparked the violence last night or if it was just retaliatory. it's terrible images for northern ireland as rory mcelroy, the golfer is coming back and people are celebrating in other parts of the city in east belfast, a very different sc

i m executive director of catholic cheerios -- catholic charities cio. support 200 formerly homeless families on the island as well, and i would like to speak on behalf and in support of these projects, and how important they are in the community. i would also like to speak in support of an advocate for the 160 families who today are on the waiting list for shelter in our community. we also run one of three family shelters in the community, and there are only a bit in and families currently supported in the shelter system. another 167 on the waiting list. when we consider that this project will add to the number of permanent homes available for formerly homeless families, it is an incredible opportunity for us to make a difference in our community, and we urge that you support this project. thank you. >> good afternoon. i am a client at walden house on treasure island. unfortunately, it to present to get me sober, but walden house taught me to -- had showed me how to cope with life and show up for life on life's terms. i become an independent woman. i ha

i went to catholic price school in dorchester, a section of boston. -- i went to catholic high schooln dorchester, a section of boston. because of my parents, my brothers and i were all blessed to go to harvard university. that is where i went to school. it was intense. i stayed there for law school and have a master's in public policy from there. those are subjects i decided to study because i was interested in public service and public policy issues and government. >> you grew up in the boston area. what made you want to make the transition and moved to san francisco? what motivated you to get involved in politics question marks before i ran for office, and worked in san francisco as a criminal prosecutor and civil rights attorney. i got to understand how much of a be in san francisco is to the rest of the world for social justice. i spent a number of years helping to grow a small business. i got to understand the innovative spirit in san francisco. at night, i volunteered as a neighborhood leader and as feature of an affordable housing organization. i learned so much about the chal

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the catholic diocese announced that it's suing arlington county. in march, the county bord of supervisors denied a proposal to add lights to the field of bishop o'connell high in arlington. the board members point out the football field is not as close to residential areas as some public schools, but the diocese claims the school is getting unfair treatment because it's a religious institution. >>> another down day on wall street s. it a sign the recovery is slowing or stopping? we're going to take a closer look at the state of the economy next. >>> a out out man in trouble for paying a medical bill with 2500 pennies. the man went to the clinic to dispute a $25 bill. he didn't get his way and asked the staff if he accepted cash. they said yes. he demanded the staff count and each and everyone. he was cited for disorderly conduct. the penalty is up to a $140 fine or 14,000 pennies.  . >> happy no matter what the news, right? lingerring concerns about the economy pushed the stocks lower. the dow dropped 61 points to 1209.0, the nasdaq lost 30