the catholic pastor only makes an appearance about once a month there are not many catholics in ash in felde germany's two major churches are losing members and intricate fashionable churches offer both a solution. to what is the way of the future so i do times of straight and finances and shrinking congregations it's also an economic issue that protestants and catholics share a church building those are economic advantages from. the relatively large number of interest in fashion all churches in northeastern varia is unique in sixteen fifty two the catholic ruler counts christiane. decreed that all churches in his territory were to be used by both catholics and protestants. marcos is a catholic theologian and local historian he explains what motivated the count one could. you could say christiane i'll go start i have a dream of his dream was that the christian confessions which were at loggerheads and which had fought and killed each other in a thirty year war would come together again and he realized that it wouldn't happen from one day to the next he knew it had to be practiced on a

the nearby catholic church is being renovated and the protestants are currently hosting the catholics. the temporary sharing of a church building doesn't of course automatically make it into a confessional. the tabernacle and its light are also just visitors. in their cathedral near cologne the enthusiasm for enter confessional churches is rather more muted in this region most catholics are conservative traditional lists the rhineland was a bastion of the counter-reformation so it's not surprising that the two pastors an out and back aren't even able to agree whether their shared building is an intricate fashionable church or simply a catholic church used for intercon fashion or purposes. it's a catholic church used to fall into confessional purposes as is and is a more time of course it's an intercom factional church. the catholic church or a parish especially my catholic counterpart has a different view of the legal status but that's how it is. all the cathedral building belongs to the state of north rhine-westphalia both the catholic and lutheran communities use it as their parish

now i get the news letter from the catholic woman and i know something about catholic women i didn't before. you are donating your services to many of these people. >> sometimes, yes. >> you are also an organized and i think ambitious professional. it's a very interesting combination of things. let me ask you this, where would you see yourself being in ten years? would you be a teacher, academic, evangelist? >> i have no idea. wherever god can use my talents i would love to work with people in real life and real ministry. i love relational boots on the ground type of work that happens usually on a parish level. i think you really work with the people and work with children, teens, young adults, and see them progress and grow in the faith. but i also just love the writing part of it. i love media communications. i think that's really how connections are being formed nowadays. in my life, there are so many friends i have made through instagram, so many jobs i got through instagram. it's insane to think about. >> for old buddies like me, would you reassure us that the kids are not wasti

i am semi-right and into social media for catholics. and you have links to a various network of artists writers and so on and as i click through i'm discovering a world that isn't known to well to me which is young catholic professionals who are on the internet doing what they do in the service of the catholic faith. >> yes. >> you seem to be involved with all of them. >> yes. it's very interesting to be able to use my catholic faith to work with all these different companies and some of the want to wireless on my site are the living person one secret mission the catholic woman. i've also worked with other campaigns and net ministries. there is all of these different groups of catholics that i have been able to work with through the internet. because of the gifts that i have. >> and i have seen your published poems and i'm sure that there's a lot nonviolent material because you make a living as a professional writer and you're paying your rent intuition. it sounds like you are very active in speaking. and i think that in a typical day y

let's talk about catholic. -- catholics. julie, you wrote a piece about a firing of a former chaplain in georgetown. father pat conroy started the retreat program in georgetown. nobody gets to serve us chaplain forever. this seemed particularly badly handled. people made it worse by what they said. privately and publicly. this seems to be the evangelical moment for good or ill. there are not a lot of leaders advising the president or the party. what was your sense as somebody who covers all these communities, of where the catholic community fits in this moment in the republican party? >> you brought up one thing that is very striking. every president for the past many years has had advisors. -- faith advisors. president trump created a somewhat new office. until this point, what has been different about president trump is that he has had johnny's evangelical counsel. there is not been any formal or informal advisers from any other faith, which is very different and unusual. cardinal world has been open about saying that he -

than most catholics. what is the role in the catholic church within your party, within our country at this point, when so much of the focus is elsewhere? and then i'm going to ask people to begin to move towards the microphones. i would also say you can join and our conversation with the gustpubliclife. #lifeinpolitics. michael, tell us about the role of the catholic church in politics and in this party. >> i have argued in the past that the great advantage of catholic social teaching build a need for evangelicals is the if -then nature of catholic teaching. so if you are pro-life, you cannot dehumanize migrants. if you oppose euthanasia, then you have to support health care for all people, in whatever way that is possible. and catholics do not always obey that, clearly, in public life. but they have it. often, afraid that evangelicals have approached a lot of these questions from the perspective of the perceived aggressions of modernity. abortion, religious liberty, other things, rather than looking at f

paul ryan is catholic himself. hard to believe that he would have anti-catholic bias. he said that there were issues afterastoral services father conroy spoke up and argued against his dismissal. was reinstated. he is the house chaplain again. he might not get much more of an answer than that. it has raised questions about how members of the house view theserancis catholic days. one congressman said i think the next chaplain should be a man with a family who can talk about what it is like to raise children, which would rule out catholic priest, which struck a lot of people the wrong way. [laughter] it would not rule out every catholic used. whether popeof francis is viewed as a political figure, whether that means catholics more broadly argued as liberal is an interesting one, even though the chaplain is back and we might not hear about it for a while. on an been working interface basis, building bridges. what is your take on relationships between evangelical, catholic community, the place of different groups in the republican party? you built these alliances. i am not

you know more about catholic social functions than most catholics. what is the role in the catholic church within your party, within our country at this point, when so much of the focus is elsewhere? i will ask people to start moving towards the microphones. i would also say you can join our conversation with the #life in politics. reflect on your work with the catholic community. with the role of the catholic church in politics and in this party. >> i have argued in the past that the great advantage of catholic social teaching, that fills a need for evangelicals is the if then teaching. if you are pro-life, you cannot dehumanize. if you oppose euthanasia, then you have to support health care for all people, in whatever way that is possible. catholics do not always obey this in public life. evangelicals have approached a lot of these questions from the perspective of the perceived aggressions. abortion, religious liberty, other things, rather than looking at first principles and coming to issues. there is some overlap, but they are not identical to o

you know more about catholic social teaching the most catholics. what is the role of the catholic church within your party, within our country at this point, when so much of the focus is elsewhere? and going to ask people to begin to move towards the microphones and i would also say you can join our conversation at public life and hashtag faith and politics. michael, reflect on your work with the catholic community, with catholic social teaching of the role of the catholic church in politics and then this party. >> well, , i've argued in the pt that the great advantage of catholic social teaching that fills a need for evangelicals actually is that if then nature of catholic teaching. if you are pro-life, then you can't dehumanize migrants. if you oppose euthanasia, then you have to support healthcare for all people, in whatever way that's possible. catholics don't always obey that, clearly in public life, but they have it. i'm afraid that often evangelicals have approached a lot of these questions from the perspective of the perceived aggressions o

this was a decidedly catholic college and i am decidedly and unapologetically catholic. [applause] >> it is this faith that has been a guiding beacon during some difficult and seemingly hopeless times. even when i turned my heart against and turned my back on it, i have no doubt that this faith will do the same for each of you if you let it and even if you don't. it is not a tether but rather it is a guide, the way, the truth and the life. my first encounter with a catholic institution was in september 1955 when i entered second-grade at st. benedict's grammar school, my hometown of savannah, georgia. we lined up in schoolyard by grade and after reciting the pledge of allegiance in unison we filed into our respective classrooms 2 x 2. the first subject was always religion. using the baltimore catechism. i still remember sister delarosa asking us as a class why did god create you. the innocent voices of 7-year-olds we responded god created us to know, love, and serve him in this life and to be happy with him in the next. a lifetime has passed since those days of innocence

this is a decidedly catholic college and i am decidedly an unapologetically catholic. [applause] it is this faith that has been a guiding beacon during some difficult and seemingly hopeless hours. even when i turned my heart against it and turned my back on it. and i have no doubt that this faith will do the same for each of you if you let it. and perhaps even if you don't. it is not a tether, but rather it is a way for the truth and the life. my first encounter with a catholic institution was in september of 1955 when i entered second grade at saint benedict school and my hometown of savanna, georgia. in those days we lined up in the schoolyard by grade and after reciting the pledge of allegiance in unison, we filed it -- we filed into our respective classrooms, two by two. the first subject was always religion, using the baltimore catechism. i can still a member sister mary sister mary taylor rosa ask enough of a class, why did god create you in unison and the innocent voices at seven euros olds responded, god created us to know, love and serve it in this life and to

this is a decidedly catholic college. i am decidedly, and unapologetically catholic. [applause] justice thomas: it is this faith that has been the guiding the can during some difficult and seemingly hopeless times. even when i had turned my heart against it, and turned back on it. i have no doubt that this faith will do the same for each of you, if you let it. perhaps, even if you don't. it is not a tether, but rather is a guide. the way, the truth, and the light. my first encounter with a inholic institution was september 1955 when i entered second-grade at saint benedict remmert -- saint benedict grammar school. in those days we lined up in the schoolyard by great. after reciting the pledge of allegiance in unison, we dialed respective into our classrooms to buy two. the first subject was always religion. using the ultimate -- using the baltimore cataclysm. i can still remember the sister asking us as a class why did god create you? innocent, in the voices of seven-year-olds, we d created us to know, love, and serve him in this life and to be happy with him in the n

one thing we have not mentioned is the role of the catholic church., but the role in the campaign running up to may the 25th and it seems the church has taken a back seat and a background role and i wonder if that is because frankly the catholic church in ireland today is deeply tainted and its voice and credibility have been undermined by a series of scandals. many concerning sexuality, paedophile priests, and the treatment of young girls who became pregnant and was shunted off into institutions which treated them abysmally and often left their babies in unmarked graves. as all of that undermined the church's ability to be part of the campaign? i think the problems you are describing aren't solely confined to ireland, we have the same thing with clergy and america and england and other places. i can't answer that the catholic church but in the churches around ireland preachers are speaking about the referendum and explain to people what the consequences of removal of the amendment would be. so you are happy to be associated, you're part of the campai

a new government and a new future not roman catholic cardinal is to stand trial in australia for sexual abuse decades ago cardinal george pell pleaded not guilty to dozens of witnesses gave evidence in a months long committal hearing the former archbishop of melbourne in the one nine hundred ninety s. rose to become vatican treasurer and aide to pope francis thomas reports. cardinal pell arrived at a melbourne course hoping this would be his final appearance. it would be george pell was until recently the catholic church's treasurer arguably the third most important person of the vatican inside here a magistrate told him he will face a criminal trial accused of historic sexual offenses police formed a barrier to help clear his path out a large crowd of media and people who say they were abused by priests in the catholic church was writing. the magistrates had barely finished.

catholic imagination. rihanna showed up wearing a sparkly outfits, many other celebrities accessorized using crosses and rosary beads but when people complain about cultural appropriation some wonder if turning catholicism into a costume was appropriate. was the lack of outrage a double standard? surprised people are not calling out the met gala for being are offensive to catholics but if it was another religion everyone would be up in arms. and other twitter users is imagine using my religion to do your fashion show, disgusting and lastly, it is low-key, disrespectful to the catholic religion and that is where people are falling. kim jung un let's talk about joe piscopo. >> a former saturday night live cast member called out the chauffeur casting stormy daniels to criticize donald trump.

catholic charities, again, about another quarter. and health rights 360 having a smaller number of units. in the one treasure island plan, as those member agencies construct their new buildings, these households in good standing will be tran f -- transferred into units. there will be an option provided for rental transition units, down payment assistance, or in-lieu payment if they're leaving the island. tida is responsible for constructing these transition units within the sites that will be developing with one treasure island or other housing develope developers, and when they turn over eventually, they would become affordable units. so our current snapshot of the villages at treasure island, they currently have 387 occupied units, slightly more than half are pre-dda households. again, those pre-dda households, if they're eligible for, they can elect a new affordable transition unit. they can relocate to a new market rate transition unit, or they can elect the in-lieu payment or pursue assistance to purchase a unit. so, again, the

why in because the catholic charity holds catholic beliefs about same sex marriage and has a policy of placing every foster child with a mom and a dad. philadelphia mayor jim kenny says, quote: we cannot use taxpayer dollars to fund organizations that discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation or because of their same sex marriage status. it's just not right. so, while the city fights identity politics, tonight hundreds of kids remain in group homes instead of foster homes. sharon fulton has been a philadelphia foster parent, taking in 40 children. her home has been empty since april. she says, quote: i'm used to children laughing and running up and down the stairs. when the children aren't here, i feel lost. advocates for religious liberty have now filed a federal lawsuit against philadelphia but catholic charities have also been forced out of welfare systems in california, massachusetts, illinois, and the district of columbia. and the aclu is trying to overturn laws in texas and michigan. lawyers who specialize in lbgt law in some rural areas religiously affiliat

he isn'tjust the most senior catholic in australia but one of the most senior in the whole roman catholicrch. returned from rome to australia a year ago saying he would come to clear his name —— he returned. it's taken this long for the courts to decide whether or not he should stand trial. the magistrate listen to four weeks of evidence, some of it very harrowing, very detailed and

are you a catholic? are you a catholic? i am a catholic.ts it was time to check out how they subtletiy inspired modern-- what in the "westworld" is this? this is really creepy. resume motor function. when you eventually rise up, remember, i was on your side. weird. now, who designed this? >> valentino. >> stephen: what is it about that has resonance with religious dress? >> it's inspired by the grand cape worn by cardinals-- it looks so comfortable. so forgiving like i just went to old country buffet. >> stephen: which character from "the lion king" is this? is this zazu? what is this for? >> so this is-- a vestment that was designed by saint laurent-- >> stephen: could i touch this? >> no. >> stephen: are you sure i can't try anything on? >> no. >> speak to the maestro. >> stephen: well, peace be with you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, stephen. >> stephen: peace be with you. >> stephen: it's been my pleasure. >> stephen: after my exclusive behind the scenes tour i encourage everyone to go see it. >> no! but don't touch it. >> steph

the catholics are not. and the bishops are very upset about the immigration policy, the policies towards poor people, and the morality of trump has infected his support. he was helped by a lot of working class people. he's going to get a much smaller percentage of the catholic vote in 2018 and 2020 as a result of, i think, the bishop's disgust with this kind of behavior. >> clarence? >> well, you know, i covered chicago politics for a lot of years. i am fascinated by the complexities of the corruption. but also by how much, how many chicago citizens, especially mayor daley, supported the mayor as long as he got the garbage cans picked up and the snow cleared from the streets. this is how trump supporters are judging him now. they are looking at the positive tuf impact on their lives.

needs in the mission were from the catholic church and we know that you know certainly the church has been very reluctant. clergy and lay people who are alleged to be users to account and hopefully we will see this unchanged from the secrecy see this sort of thing that we've seen. and many of the abuse allegations in this case go back decades so how does your organization help adult survivors of child abuse. look it really can be very very difficult for people to come forward and speak about you know the core of their trauma what happened to them years ago and people take on a very often to take on a very inappropriate cents a share and so frayed and feel very guilty and we've had a system and a society in which to blame victims and we've seen that very much in past generations it's very very hard for people to so the rule commissions change that in australia we've seen lots of survivors come forward been heard by people in a position of authority been believed and been validated and that's very very important and we need to see the blame where it belongs with the traders kathy you ta

i was raised in a catholic family. very catholic family. at the age of 15, 16, i actually considered maybe becoming a priest, but then the age of 18, 19, along came rock 'n' roll and pinball machines and movies, and i -- came back after huge detour when i was 50 years old and came back to my belief. realized i'd never really left it. i have always been a believer and a friendly god that sees us, but i did convert. i became a protestant, and today i'm a, i'm an ecumenical christian if ever there was one and that's one of the messages of this pope. all people of goodwill in the end do believe in something and we need some sort of more revolution today. to get us back together and act and -- and this planet is in bad shape and this whole idea of brotherhood in the 21st century went down the drain in a big way. >> well, you know, you have told us simple, basic but very, very intense stories in your movies, whether it's "paris, texas," "wings of desire", whether it was the buena vista social club" on whole different level. and i just want to go

a judge in australia has ordered the country's highest ranking catholic cardinal george pell to stand trial on multiple charges of sexual abuse hell is the most senior member of the catholic church to be tried on such charges details about the allegations haven't yet been made public but police say they are store full sexual assault charges dating back several decades bell has pleaded not guilty a date for the trial has yet to be set. well with me in the studio now is over her own religious affairs correspondent martin martin good to see you the vatican's treasurer to face trial how damaging is this for the catholic church well it is clearly you know it's a stain on the vatican at least in terms of sort of public appearance but at the very same time i mean it's sort of the fact that was released to the australian authorities are released to defend his name in the court of louis no straight shows about any sexually willing to put very very high ranking people. in front of national authorities how unprecedented is this put this into context it is absolutely unprecedented for somebody of

well that is code a is the editor of the national catholic reporter and joins me now from kansas city missouri thanks very much for joining us on al-jazeera do you think the fact that such a senior member of the catholic church is now having to face this trial is almost a turning point for those campaigning against the sexual abuse allegations within the catholic church you know i wouldn't call it a turning point but it's certainly a important marker to show that even up to that level that the reform of the church that has been in process for thirty five years is finally able to reach into those highest highest levels how do you think the trial is being perceived by members of the catholic church and the catholic communities around the world well i think they're they're pretty anxious to see what the outcome is going to be there you know this be going on quite a long time. left the ballot a year ago almost already and there were hearings before that and so there are a lot of anxiety to see where this is going to come come out i mean all eyes are on pope francis for his reaction i supp

it just kicking the can down the road also coming up here's the third most senior figure in the catholic church now a judge in australia has ordered cardinal george pell to stand trial on charges of sex abuse he denies the allegations. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu presents evidence he says proves tehran is lying about its nuclear program critics say it's old news and question his timing. and in football byron munich face an uphill battle against real madrid in the champions league tonight they have just ninety minutes to turn the semifinal tie around or risk their troubled dreams ending in tatters. i'm sumi so much gonda good to have you with us the european union says there is no justification for a controversial u.s. tariffs on steel and aluminum and that it wants a permanent exemption the e.u. was responding to president donald trump's decision to delay the imposition of such tariffs just hours before a deadline was due to expire the e.u. says it has noted the move by trumpet that the postponement is prolonging uncertainty for businesses. a sigh of relief for the steel i

congratligses for 50 years a of leadership and character development at catholic high. semper fi. mr. speaker, i rise to recognize the children's vocacy alliance in conway, arkansas, and local first responders for their dedication to serving and protecting the children of central arkansas. children's advocacy alliance was founded in 2000 as court arkansas, and local appointed special advocates for the 20th judicial district of arkansas. currently it serves faulkner, conway, and van buren counties in my district. earlier this mon local law enforcement and other first responders came out to support the annual hero for hope race. in its seventh year, the race incorporates a central theme of being a superhero for each child in need. every child needs a hero, but the abused child needs a superhero. this year 160 participants ran in support of the race. thank you to all the dedicated workers at the children's advocacy alliance and dedicated law enforcement this year 160 participants peop being those superheroes for kids in need. thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i rise today to recog

something and that these women have indeed catholic and conservative countries in europe. i would still describe as a catholic country and i know that for many irish people being a member of the catholic church is still important to them and for example communion for children is still a rite of passage but people i think want to retain the compassionate elements of the jobs and not so much as what many perceive as the strong grip that has had on the country the judge had to battle with a lot of scandals child abuse scandals horrific stories came to light so the reputation of the church has definitely selfhood and i think this is also one explanation was why this vote seems to have been so decisive ok ok great talking to both get their reporting from dublin. now there's been a surprise meeting between south korean president. and his no north korean counterpart kim jong un as diplomatic efforts to rescue kim summit with u.s. president almost trump continue the two leaders met inside the demilitarized zone that divides the two koreas south korean officials say they had a cand

she was catholic.as from a very prestigious family and she would be a good wife in the white house. >> when you watch the footage from their wedding, it looks like you're watching a film. it doesn't seem real. you have jfk. he's so good looking. he moves with ease. he's trim. even in black and white, he seems like he's made of gold. and then you have jackie, and she just looks like a star of stage and screen. everything seems perfect. everyone seems at ease. and yet, we learn later that jackie was pretty unhappy with the wedding. >> joe wants the wedding to be a place to invite people who will be able to benefit his son as he eventually runs for president of the united states. jackie has this naive idea that a wedding is a place where you invite your friends and family and celebrate because you're in love. joe wins. >> she's thrust into the limelight. she's almost crushed by photographers. she has thousands of people literally at her reception she doesn't know because they've been invited by her father

is it just kicking the can down the road also coming up he's the third most senior figure in the catholic church now cardinal george howell has been ordered to stand trial on charges of sex abuse she denies the allegations. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu presents evidence he says proves tehran is lying about its nuclear program critics say it's old news and question his timing. i'm sumi so much got to thank you for joining us the european union says there is no justification for a controversial u.s. tariffs on steel and aluminum and that it wants a permanent exemption they you was responding to president donald trump's decision to delay the imposition of such tariffs just hours before a deadline was due to expire the e.u. says it has noted the move by trumpet that the postponement is prolonging uncertainty for businesses. a sigh of relief for the steel industry at least for the moment for the next four weeks the e.u. can sell steel and aluminum to the u.s. without additional terrorist. then negotiations will come to an end with says washington no more extensions in march trump

and australia and called tools that a roman catholic cardinal must stand trial on sex abuse charges. and the u.s. says it can't accept asylum seekers at its border with mexico because it has no place to put them. into the news the u.s. says it supports israeli accusations that iran and lied to international observers when denying it had nuclear weapons prior to twenty fifteen at a press conference in tel aviv benyamin netanyahu displayed what he called conclusive proof that the weapons program existed he says it showed the twenty fifteen iran nuclear deal was based on lies iran has rejected the accusations the country's foreign minister called them a rehash of old claims netanyahu made the allegations less than twenty four hours after a visit by the new secretary of state mike pompei or and in a statement the white house initially said the documents provide new and compelling details that iran has a nuclear weapons program a corrected statement was later issued saying the dock. humans show iran had a nuclear weapons program particle hain has the latest. it was an inauspicious start a

i am not catholic myself and i do not know enough about the catholic church in ireland to really commentnk brian is surely right that the recent scandals about the covering up of paedophilia is a factor. brian is right to point out that the gay marriage legislation passed with the same kind of majority, but the ability of two people to come together in union is a joyful occasion in which people can celebrate. there is no victory in abortion, and it is a sadness for those concerned. i think the tenor has got the tone of that a bit wrong. it is natural for people in a binary referendum to get involved in a clash about their sides but actually, it is not good that people will have abortions. any more than it will be good that people have to come to uk to get them. the reality is they could get one if they came to the uk, so i think it is difficult... in other words if they have the money and ability to travel. it is not over yet, because the proposals that the legislation were there during the campaign, they were bitterly fought over, and, of course, that legislation has to now go through t

>> caller: number one, i'm roman catholic but that's not why i have the deep knowledge of it. i used to do radio shows for religion, politics and i used had a thought of anything i research it and do a show on it and that's how i happen to do the shows on the subjects i'm mentioning right now but i should mention jeff -- >> host: thank you, sir. >> guest: to answer your question history is compensated. there's rarely one reason for it. i think a very important topic is the issue of literacy. in the middle ages literacy was low and people access to the bible was in many cases visual. you think of stained-glass and it was communal in theet sense that you go to the cathedral for example and it's something that neople do together. it's not often reading bibles on their own. when the printing press comes along it up new channels for literacy in coming centuries that will revolutionize society. that is a topic that is important in the question to ask. >> host: another presidential quote you have here in the museum and this is woodrow wilson, note study is more important to the child

ireland is a catholic-majority country. but the moral authority of catholic clergy who oppose abortion has been damaged by sexual abuse scandals and cruel treatment of unmarried, pregnant women. on monday, bishop kevin doran, chairman of the irish bishops conference committee for bioethics, said during an interview on rte radio one with sean o'rourke, that voting "yes" was a sin. knowing andted yes, intending that abortion would be the outcome, then you should consider coming to confession where you would be received with compassion. bishopdoran,ying , the people who voted yes knowing it could be leading to abortion, could not be leading trading desk to anything else, it would be an abortion? >> yes, i believe so. amy: but other church leaders interviewed on rte radio one, ireland's public radio, had a different response to friday's vote. this is father brian d'arcy, one of ireland's best-known priests, speaking monday. >> i would not like to attribute sin in this matter at all. think it is the wrong language for this becau

there is a theory in the catholic church in which she was grounded. in which all of life is part of one seamless garment. but she was a political pragmatist. and although she threw those decisions she tried valiantly and unsuccessfully when the democratic party became supporters to get teddy to stay on board. the original position was an opposition to abortion. after 73 he and the democratic party changed places. one of the great things about looking at woman like this she lived through some of the most incredible times. it was a liberal decision. the black panther party denounced abortion as a genocide. in their view it was a wait for the white power structure the opposition came from her deep catholicism. whether it was a stronger democrat. she never hit it. she accepted an award. it was the conviction. it was not one to be overturned. i do a lot with her. i don't happen to share. she was sympathetic to people in those positions and kennedy told me during a very difficult conversation about abortion about this issue. she was in physical pain every d