jim cavanaugh, stand by for a second. i like to bring in former fbi assistant director, frank faglusi. frank, you just heard the information that just came in from us from odessa police. can fbi get there? are they already there. they're probably moving quite quickly at the moment to get resources to odessa and resources to mid land. >> this is an all hands on deck. there's no doubt they're being deployed and racing. getting direction from the highway patrol and local police as to which exits might need to be blocked, what entrance ramps might need to be blocked. the fact that a u.s. postal service truck may be involved and/or hijacked certainly brings the possibility of federal charges into this. no one is worried which statute applies. if you have a badge and a gun, you are getting deployed and trying to bring some order to what is a fairly likely chaotic scenario. >> part of the chaotic scenario, they're talking about an active shooter at a home depot. local atf there, there is an active shooter situation on a freeway

both families, the taylor family and the cavanaugh family.have started very successful businesses in the city of st louis andjim himself businesses in the city of st louis and jim himself was actually a professional soccer player. he is a good resource for soccer knowledge. i think you probably know, we are a majority female — led ownership group, seven out of the nine individual owners are paid —— group, seven out of the nine individual owners are paid —- part of the taylor— kendall families and we're just to have an opportunity to show really women can do whatever they want to do as long as they set their mind to it and they continue to work hard and achieve success. what short and long—term target have you got? getting the stadium built. it's taking up quite a bit of time right now but it's fun. we are going to do the design and making sure that it's very unique to st louis but also represents st louis as well. we have to put together a team and work with our corporate sponsorships and we just have to find a way to keep our fans excited an

and the presence of the liberals on alito's side and cavanaugh complicates the picture. there is no easy way to paint alito or gorsuch as taking the liberal side and tennessee wine and spirits. the libertarian conservatives cheered the outcome, while the two most obviously libertarian justice, gorsuch and thomas, dissented in the case. if the term just concluded, it is a harbinger of things to come. gorsuch is the man to watch in the contemporary supreme court. thank you. [applause] >> thank you for those remarks. i would like to open it up for questions from the audience, but before we do that, i was wondering if, obviously, we heard matt's thoughts on justice gorsuch. i wondered if others would like to share their thoughts on our two newest justices and how they may be shaping the roberts court. >> i will pick that up. i think it is much too early to tell about brett kavanaugh. i think just the dynamic of how we got there, and all of the controversy that came with it indicated he would probably stay his hand quite a bit the first year, and i think the granting of this

i don't care about cavanaugh. they use cavanaugh to bludgeon trump.y don't go after the governor of virginia. it is because he is something interesting. you said media standards in the same sentence which i had a chuckle because they don't actually have standards. shawn, the idea of a standard is that a standard that applies to both of you don't go in a boxing range but this guy gets to go in there boxing. the media doesn't have a standard. they don't call out the rhetoric on the left and the blame game here that the media has been engaging as a born beard is being done for a reason. we should never forget. the reason they do this is because they want to engage in a type of heckler's veto. if they can respectively blame conservatives, not just donald trump, he's a target outcome of that conservatives in general for these horrible verandas deeds, they can effectively gain a veto over their speech and get them to shut up you that's what they really want to do and that's the danger and the reason you and i refuse to play in the same game against the left

lance cavanaugh swore up and down that google's algorithms and block this stuff. further proof of their deception and indifference. it hasn't been blocked. the videos were blatantly obvious with titles stating raw video and or w dv j murder. it wasn't as if they were buried in some obscure way, they were rightthere in plain sight . since that meeting, there have been, there have been nothing but silence until the morning of my senate judiciary committee testimony . walden reached out to us. a person francoise responded and i quote, my plans as reach the point where he does not believe is productive to continue this conversation when google has not only failed to take meaningful steps in addressing his concern but also failed to timely respond to communications from georgetown. in short, until and unless google tells us the concrete steps it intends to take to make certain that the videos are automatically taken down in the matter of videos that violate the rights of copyright holders, my client does not see the point of continuing a conversation that is now lasted

we have justice cavanaugh. we have justice gorsuch.hey feel very strongly about the second amendment. the nra made a great decision in supporting me. nobody else would have won. i have a very good relationship. i have a great relationship with the nra. i have a lot of respect for the people at the nra. i have already spoken to them on numerous occasions. numerous occasions. frankly, we need intelligent background checks. this is not a question of nra, republican or democrat. i spoke to mitch mcconnell yesterday. he is totally on board. he set up and waiting for your call. he is totally on board. i spoke to senators, friends of mine, pretty hardline senators. when i say that i say that in a positive way. hardliners for the second amendment. they understand that we don't want insane people, mentally a people, bad people, dangerous people, we don't want guns in the hands of those people. i think the republicans are going to be great and lead the charge, along with the democrats. i spoke to nancy pelosi. we had a great talk. i spoke to chu

jim cavanaugh still with us right now. getting the information about what might not be happening there. what is the considerations so early on, multiple people shot, again, very little information. the police there in midland, texas, i was looking at a tweet they put out earlier. it says, update, we believe there are two shooters in two separate vehicles, one suspect is believed to be at the synergy in midland, and the other is believed to be driving on route 250 in midland. this is, again, according to the midland police department and what they tweeted about 30, 45 minutes, 2:29 local time in midland odessa, texas, time. the two vehicles from the midland police department, they're saying the two vehicles in question are gold, white, small toyota truck, and a u.s. ps postal van. stay away from these areas and stay indoors. so you can see as we highlighted on the map, midland and odessa, very close to each other. cavan phone with us at the moment. that is the information we have so far from the midland police department. t

i want to bring in now, again, for us, he's been helping us with our coverage today, jim cavanaugh. jim, how many people are we talking about here, as far as law enforcement, that will now descend on el paso to help with this investigation? >> phillip, literally you have hundreds of detectives, uniformed officers, s.w.a.t., federal law enforcement, state troopers, texas rangers, prosecutors, u.s. attorneys, assistant u.s. attorneys. i mean, you've got a phalanx of law enforcement there to sort all this out, to keep the community and sean henry mentiod frank earlier, they've got to get into those computers and sweep it, because even though there's one person here, who's behind the one person? is there somebody egging him on for some reason? you know, could be a myriad of reasons. hate, terrorism, power. or is it a person who is so mentally disturbed, they did this on their own, they're angry, trying to seek revenge on the city, the community, someone? so they've got to sort that out, because, you know, if it is just this one person, then they've got to build that prosecutable case, a

thank you, tom winter and jim cavanaugh. neighborhood where neighbors all know each other. >>> coming up, double standard. recent gaps by joe biden have democrats worried. the president of the united states can't get through a speech without making multiple false statements. how about a double standard with the president? he is getting off easy for what he says. are these gaffes or lies? that's next on "hardball." ♪ limu emu & doug look limu. a civilian buying a new car. let's go. limu's right. liberty mutual can save you money by customizing your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. oh... yeah, i've been a customer for years. huh... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ mothat a handle is just a is jushandle.ir. or -- that you can't be both inside and outside. most people haven't driven a lincoln. discover the lincoln approach to craftsmanship at the lincoln summer invitation. right now, get 0% apr on all 2019 lincoln vehicles plus no payments for up to 90 days. only at your lincol

that's from our former atf agent jim cavanaugh. just an interesting take there on all of this.g, of course, though to the first shooting that took place there in el paso. >> we're also getting an update on the dayton shooting as well. mayor whaley of dayton, ohio, will be holding a press conference at 7:00 a.m. eastern at the dayton convention center to update us on the situation there. what we know in dayton is that nine people have been killed, at least 16 injured. the gunman was also killed by multiple police officers there on scene. they were already patrolling the area there. the oregon district with bars and restaurants when they had to respond. dayton police say it was a short timeline of violence because they were there on the scene. police also telling us in a briefing morning, they've been training many, many years for this type of unfortunately, ready for it. we've also been in touch with the hospital as well. a spokeswoman there tell us that they do not yet have an update on injuries right now. but we do know the gunman in dayton, ohio, has been killed by multiple o

susan: did her support for cavanaugh hurt her at all? steven: that remains to be seen. the bigger challenges the challenge joe manchin faced in west virginia and susan collins faces. we live in a much more polarized political environment. simply being known as an icon in your state, it doesn't get you 80% approval ratings. you're going to be in the 50's and 60's on a good day because people are generally polarized and they look at what you're wearing and that's all they want to know. even though, i think susan collins has a good, strong image. i think that brett kavanaugh confirmation definitely energize , but whether that result in anything more than a lot of money for her opponent remains to be seen. susan: could you describe the states where there are these competitive races, colorado, north carolina, arizona, maine, kentucky, all republican-held seats right now. what is the chance the senate flips and you don't hold it in democrats take over a majority? >> i think we have a good opportunity to hold the senate. it is going to be a fight. the democrats either shot to

i want to turn to dayton, bring in jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agent in charge. er neg.nd sam. i was struck, as you were, watching the police cleave in dayton walk through what he characterized as a prez taksent. it was that. played a 911 tape, played several videos of what happened during the course of that scene. what's your takeaway from the way law enforcement handled that shooting in dayton, ohio, earl earlier this morning? >> couldn't have handled it better. the most important things were the killer had a 100-round drum. so if he had got inside the ned peppers, he really would have slaughtered a lot of people there. the most effective thing were the police were there already but had a tactical patrol rifle and a shotgun. the sergeant had a shotgun. those were equalizers to the long gun that the killer had. i'm sure they played a key role because the tactical patrol rifle could penetrate the body armor of the killer, the shotgun could knock him down and knock him back. the shotgun was the weapon i always reached for as a uniformed officer. so those made the things m

cavanaugh let's begin with you. welcome. >> thank you mr. chairman. i am sean sean cavanaugh.we partner with independent physicians in 24 states in diabetes payment models. mr. chairman you mention dr. james testimony where he talks about the enormous amount of waste in our health care system. i think we all make the fundamental decision of how we will get rid of that weighs in at boils down to a choice of two approaches. one is competition in the other speculation. i personally have a background in regulation. i'm what you might say they'll commit regular. i published regulations all year long essentially ministering prices. a previous grant awards at the maryland hospital where he sat all care hospital race in maryland and i'm here to tell you whenever possible you should rely on competition, not regulation. this approach can be taken to ensure competition works wherever possible. we believe maintaining a robust independent physicians sectors essential to supporting competition and high-value care. unfortunately this approach is at risk as hospitals have aggressively than pu

gorsuch and cavanaugh are against reproductive freedom. he has emboldened legislators across the country to overturn roe v. wade because he doesn't want women to get access to health care they need. as president i will codify roe v. wade into law so it is the law of the land, i will only appoint justices that believe roe v. wade is the law of the land, i will repeat the hyde amendment, which makes it impossible for low income women to get access, and i will make sure that no matter what state you live in, you can have access to reproductive services, hopefully through medicare for all, where anyone can buy in at a price they can afford, it would be a percentage of income matched by your employer. it will create competition overnight with for-profit insurance. and for-profit insurance is trying to have shareholder value. they have to have quarterly profits, they pay ceos millions of dollars. what you think that money goes? not for your health care. they deny you a day in the hospital because they want to make more money. when they say you c

>> yes we did support cavanaugh. we didn't take position in that one. we did support roberts. >> thank you mr. chairman i have some additional questions. for mr. canterbury. in 2017, there was a message to flp members. you urge them to speak out in support of then attorney jeff that the federal forfeiture program would be expanded. as i recall while having virtues, and equitable sharing program, the equitable sharing program here refers to something i have long opposed, something i had a post at this time in years before that. in refers to the mechanism by which some state and local law enforcement agencies in many cases otherwise hindered by more aggressive and restrictive laws governing civil asset forfeiture. >> will turn to law enforcement officials ask for their help getting the federal law enforcement offices involved in seizing simile assets and then in return for this cooperation they will both get a share of the proceeds of this. sometimes this is used to fund law enforcement operations and for reasons that i think are apparent to anyone who ex

including supreme court justice judge cavanaugh. that case was interesting part of the different senate factors. they had been a big debate on a licensed plate. you can make what you want of that, but the community objective, and in the time the government south carolina like to leave a trail neb noted. because he saw the information implode locations of what it was about. he said, you grew up in 96 south carolina. you wouldn't think anything at all would you if you went to the gas station about noon or lunch and a couple your friends are going kuhn hunting? two eagle raccoon heading at nighttime. most of the time you get possums. at the trial here in dc, the state attorney said to me, do you think republicans are racist? >> i told them i didn't have to think that some of us are required of as an expert. i said i prefer to say some are not very accepted of racial issues. i pointed another sponsor had emailed out a cartoon that looked like it was from about 1880. running away in a horrible book that they would make because obama was

cavanaugh earlier about the differences within regions, the variations in rural markets. benchmark payment rates based on average negotiated rates for region in my view appears to be most simple, most predictable framework. but do you believe that a benchmark rate based on negotiated rates within the region adequately account for those variations that we see within the world markets? and can you speak more broadly to the impact of such a model where you have few providers and few insurers? >> yeah. as you know we do not support that sort of approach, and would you believe that and addressed mr. senator collins and senator cassidy with you here. if you set a national rate it will not acknowledge local conditions do not acknowledge a place like alaska. we fear the heart of what the most, and senator collins mentioned this, is to rural america where prices are higher, margins are small and the danger of something going wrong here is far greater than it is elsewhere. there are some untested ideas being discussed here, and we need to make sure whatever we do does the harm to r

they are still going after cavanaugh. kavanaugh. so will the white house now shut this down? president trump here says, don't produce the documents. he's got a good ally on this and that's george washington. this is a principle that our country has lived under for under 200 years. the house wanted to get from george washington documents about a treaty and george washington said no because the house is not involved in ratifying treaties. the house is not involved with supreme court house. you have no right because you have no constitutional function so if i was president trump i would say no on the documents and i would say my good friend george washington is a president that shows i'm right. >> laura: a fantastic review of three important legal issues. we really appreciate it. we will be right back. >> thanks, laura >> laura: how about that, we end with some great news. over 170 volunteers took to the streets today to help local residents clean up and some of the horrible conditions in baltimore. this is the before shot. it here you see people from all different backgrounds.

held that supreme court sea open, trump was able to appoint a republican to fill it and the whole cavanaugh drama last year. how has that changed how democrats are approaching this? >> i think you're exactly right to take this moment and go all the way back to 2016, steve, because what i hear from democrats is that merrick garland seat that got held before the election woke democrats up from the democrats to say oh my gosh, we've been losing on focusing on the judicial branch of government, how we can reshape government. and then the kavanaugh fight activated them. and then you have the 2020 presidential candidates come in and say why don't we have an open conversation about something that hasn't been done in centuries? it's really a reflection of how democrats have not been focusing on the court for so long and are now at risk of being out of power, the balance of power at the supreme court for years, maybe even a generation depending on retirements in the trump era that they're having this conversation of like, wait a second, we might lose it all right now. let's throw in this one radical

gorsuch and cavanaugh are against reproductive freedom. he has emboldened legislators across the country to overturn roe v. wade because he doesn't want women to get access to health care they need. as president i will codify roe v. wade into law so it is the law of the land, i will only up point justices that believe roe v. wade is the law of the land, i will repeat the hyde amendment , which makes it impossible for low income women to get access, and i will make sure that no matter what state you live the end, you can have access to reproductive services, hopefully through medicare for all, where anyone can buy in at a price they can afford, it would be a percentage of income matched by your employer. it will create competition overnight with for-profit insurance. and for-profit insurance is trying to have shareholder value. they have to have quarterly profits, they pay ceos millions of dollars. what you think that money goes? not for your health care. they deny you a day in the hospital because they want to make more money. when they sa

cavanaugh we are going to assume he is pro-life. he delivered on those promises. i think the evangelical care. they continue to be very happy with the man. these are some strange times we are living in. you never thought would happen but it is happening. >> carrie sheffield: i want to talk about your view with donald trump and how you report that president trump well at the time, then potential candidate reached out to you for lunch and he said that he pushed back softly and gently. i thought could never be in the same sentence with trump. humility and graciousness. 3.5 months before he had declared. after he declared and he was very nice and the man was very nice and human humility and kindness and all the scene see jeremy. what you think in your opinion, is the president embrace of persona seems to be so different from the person that you seen privately. do you think this person with the female and minority voters who may be whose persona isn't there, teeth rid. >> brent bozell: great question. i'm not alone many people have said the same thing that in private h

we have justice cavanaugh. we have justice gorsuch.sident trump speaking moments ago at the white house. he said that things are going "very well with china," but the u.s. is not ready to make a deal. he says we will see if the september meeting will take place. we are not quite sure if the said temper talks will take place. -- if the september talks will take place. he also made mention of other countries, and said that relative to other countries, the u.s. is "doing very well." the president talked about the federal reserve once again, calling for a full point rate cut. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ vonnie: live from new york, i'm vonnie quinn. guy: from london, i'm guy johnson. this is "bloomberg markets." time now for a bloomberg business flash, a look at some of the biggest business stories in the news right now. the historic slump in chinese auto sales isn't over yet. the market resumed its downward trend last month after a brief uptick in june. retail car sales fell 5.3% from a year ago, the 13th decline in 14 months. global growth is

only if it's cavanaugh and they can bludgeon trump eight so it's not the issue is that they care about the political weaponization that they care about. >> that's right. dead young black families and the inner city is not news as far as the left is concerned viewed on cnn a couple years ago, there was a reality-based series called chicagoland where they followed around a principal of an urban high school in chicago on the south side called finger high. she and her staff were literally mapping out routes to and from school and they would test out to those students to advise them the most safe routes to pass through going to and from school so they don't get killed by gangs. now, i don't think they are worried about net white nationalist or supremacist. they are worried about young black boys killing other black boys for that's what the problem here is going on in this country and you can blame it on the walls, you much tougher laws on guns and they arty have heard you can't blame it on politicians i can. there's now a black man, the head of the police department as a black eye great can

joining me now, jim cavanaugh, he's an msnbc terrorism analyst and retired special agent in charge for bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. jim, the fact that there are so many guns available and i'm just talking about this weekend, there were also last weekend, we saw the garlic festival in california mass shootings. in brownsville, brooklyn, where i come from, i just talked to community leader a.t. mitchell. we've had a mass shooting there. i mean, the availability of guns goes all the way across this country. different geographic lines. different types of communities. why are we not doing something about it? >> well, cowards in the congress, we're awash in guns, totally awash in guns, without any viable laws that can help us reduce the violence. and look at the gun magazine in this case, 100-round drum. if the shooter in dayton had gotten inside, it would be absolute carnage. it already was carnage. it would have been ten times worse. the shooter in aurora, colorado, had a 100-round magazine as well. why is that allowed to be sold anywhere, a 100-round magazine? for the convenie

he just starts ripping names at fox like justice cavanaugh.times, if the devil called me and said he wanted to set up a meeting to give me opposition research on the opponent, i would be on the first train to hell to get it. and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar. >> i don't know why everyone is yelling. first trolley to hell. that should be the name of her show. after every interview, she be like do-do. coming up, next stop, voter fraud. the country is -- that's not really -- yeah, it is my larry king voice. i have one voice. that's all i can do. the country's best known name sake might not like it when fox news releases a poll, but the president hasn't forgotten all the network did for him and his also. where else would rudy giuliani have been able to defuse the stormy daniels hush money scandal. >> it's not campaign money. no campaign finance violation. >> they funneled it through a law firm. >> funneled through a law firm and the president repaid it. >> oh. >> i did not -- he did. there's no campaign finance law. >> zero. >> zero. a

. >> reporter: nbc law enforcement expert jim cavanaugh says federal surveillance of internet forumss restricted. >> federal agents cannot go and monitor those boards because there is hate speech. >> reporter: in his plans, the suspected shooter expressed his support for the shooter in new zealand at a massacre earlier this year. that shooter targeting muslims and killing over 50 people in christchurch, posted his own diatribe on the anonymous forum with a link to the live slaying on facebook. a month later a copycat posted his own speech on a similar site before shooting up san diego synagogue. at a senate hearing last month, the director of the fbi saying the agency had made some 100 arrests related to domestic terrorism since october. >> a majority of the domestic terrorism cases that we've investigated are motivated by some version of what you might call white supremacist violence. >> reporter: domestic terrorism is different from what the fbi called homegrown violent extremism in the u.s., inspired by global jihadists. >> they all think that the race war is coming and they're a

but the past year a number of cases where conservatives including president trump's picks, that cavanaughmocrats are considering if the supreme court takes up this case involving now defunct new york city gun laws, it could prevent other cities from passing similar gun control legislation so they want the court to just leave it alone. shannon. >> shannon: we will see if they do, trace gallagher things. the democrats think they can lose the key gun rights case and the supreme court. is it fair to issue a threat to the justices? fox contributor richard fowler and chairman of house judiciary committee bob, good to have you tonight. let me read a little bit more from the breed. the democratic senators say supreme court is not wealth. the people know it. but the court can heal itself before the public demands it be restructured in order to reduce the influence of politics, particularly the urgent issue of gun control in the the nations need it to hill. mr. chairman, what does that say to you? >> several things, first of all it is brazen and secondly, banana republic politics. they want the cou

has, i have to say this been an effect of the cavanaugh hearings. students are completely worried that anything they say from middle school on will be used against them in their confirmation hearings. themselves are a product of this environment and culture we are living in now. themselves ares a lot responsible for this anti-free-speech attitude on campus. along with the faculty and administrators. >> i want to thank you both, this has been a fantastic discussion. i noticed in the discussion there is a tendency to refer to the universities as though they are a monolithic block. i wonder if you could address of private versus public universities. what different rules should apply to the issues we are discussing, and among private universities, distinguish between those who take government funding like stanford , who takes a tremendous amount, and hillsdale that takes no averment funding? steve: i have been many times, how do you get to hillsdale, turn left out of detroit and go 200 years to brigadoon. it is a wonderful place way off in the middle of

we have justice cavanaugh, we have justice gorsuch and they feel very strongly about the second amendmentmade a great decision in supporting me and nobody else would have won aside from everything else. i have a very good relationship. i'll change it. i have a great relationship with the nra. i have a lot of respect for the people at the nra and i have already spoken to them on numerous occasions and, frankly, we need intelligent background checks. this isn't a question of nra, republican or democrat. i will tell you i spoke to mitch mcconnell yesterday. he's totally on board. he said i've been waiting for your call. he is totally on board. i spoke to senators that in some cases, friends of mine, but pretty hard-lined senators. and when i say that, i say that in a positive way. hard-lined on the second amendment. and they understand. we don't want insane people, mentally ill people, bad people, dangerous people, we don't want guns in the hands of the wrong people. i think that the republicans are going to be great and lead the charge, along with the democrats. i spoke yesterday to nancy p

i want tog to jim cavanaugh formerly of the atf. you and i have covered instances that may not be domestic terrorism, that might just be shooting. but there's a flavor to some of these things. we have a gun violence problem in this country. that's well established. and every instance of gun violence is not domestic terrorism or born of white nationalism, but we're starting to see closer interactions between these two things. if you happen to be a white nationalist and intent on terrorism in this country, it's relatively easy to do because of your access to high-powered weaponry that can inflict a lot of damage. >> historically, this is true. i go back 40 years working on these neo-nazi and klansmen and they were saying the same stuff. my death is going to start the revolution that's going to make an all-white homeland. if you read these screeds back in the '70s, right in the post-60s civil rights era, it's the same stuff. i mean, we were immersed and they wanted guns and bombs and machine guns. and that's why aff and fbi and the pol

it could get really ugly but i'm not sure the country has recovered from what we went through the cavanaughtle but he is ready for it. >> brian: are you still prepared to host your shoulder? you have enough energy? >> you and i am but with angela, i wonder if we should set up a set of contest between andrew luck and ruth bader ginsburg. >> brian: i would not put those two together, different mindsets. away, she shannon bream good i look forward to seeing her in the hall could she will be in york for one more day. meanwhile, my 9 minutes from the bottom of the era, former acting out at the i director andrew mccabe could soon face charges for lying to federal agents. prosecutors now are partly on the brink of reaching the decision about whether to prosecute mccabe. this is going to be tight. she is host of justice with janine, i hit show on the weekends on saturday night. you will see her on the news channel but the bigger news this week with the judges the release of her new book radicals relit resistance and revisions, the left squad to remake america. jeanine pirro, great to see you. >> go

. >> when the state came up in the chief justice granted the state, just as cavanaugh filed dissent. >> he filed a dear susan collins note because susan collins is the one who said i'm sure he's going to respect precedent on abortion and justice kavanaugh dissented from that but wanted to explain why he did. >> i think the interesting question is what's going to happen with all the states passing laws that are really overtly designed to test the whatity of roe v. wade and many of the cases challenging those laws will get to the court. i have some degree of skepticism they are going to but i think it will to fit -- depend on the way the litigation plays out in the lower courts. gethe question is, do you two judges on the court of appeals who want to say ict leaves. -- i see tea leaves. there is no way to say it will uphold a fetal heartbeat. >> so how do they -- >> that's the question. if you're a circuit judge or takes it seriously, you have to hold those unconstitutional. if the screen courts going to overturn roe, it's up to the supreme court. the question is when we find two judge

oversaw strategy and communications for the white house in a successful effort for smple justice cavanaugh supreme court and he briefed the press and handled policy rollouts and took a leading role in preparing the president and preparations. he served as white house community executive director. he served in roles at the r.n.c., a political actualitying form and served at attended cornell university. with that we'll begin the panel. obviously a very esteemed and heavy hitting panel. am going to turn it over to martha kumar, who's going to i'm turning it over to martha kumar who will talk about some of the data she's collected and president-reporter interactions. >> good afternoon. item a pleasure to be here and to be with this particular group of people. we have very god officials here who have all done very good jobs at the white house. well, when i think of the trump relationship, of the president with the press, i think of how often we see him with the press. that we seem to see him a lot more by marine one than we have other presidents in the oval office and in the roosevelt room. if

clerk for judge cavanaugh, clerk for judge kennedy. and justice kennedy, and this is unquestionably the most outstanding nomination i've ever recommended in the course of my career in the senate president to serve on the bench in kentucky so with a particular pleasure to be here today on his behalf. not to mention the clerkships that he had, the highestlevel of the judiciary , during his supreme court's internship, forbes magazine recognized justin as part of its 30 under 30 list for law and public policy. since the return on the kentucky and began teaching at the university of louisville brandeis law school, the justice worked hard to earn the trust of his colleagues and the respect of his students. this committee has received over a dozen letters signed by more than 200 kentuckians known justin as ateacher, a colleague and a friend . these letters share a common theme. justin has a thoroughly impressive nominee with all the necessary qualifications to succeed on the federal bench. his fellow professors including the dean of the law s

articulated with some prominent dissent in the courts thenpeal, including by judge now justice brett cavanaughthe way this would work is 1-wood evaluate the ity solely in reference to text, history. i think and tradition. -- and tradition. i think text, history, and tradition are very important to interpreting any constitutional question. we always begin with the text and history and tradition should always matter. but the problem is that text, history, and tradition alone are unlikely to give satisfactory cases -- answers in hard cases. and they may open the door to a lot of unarticulated judicial power and judicial discretion. i should also say that the text -- the test of text, history, and tradition, would not do silly and forced rights any more powerfully than the typical forms of heightened scrutiny we applied to other constitutional rights. -- a justicegh emphasize this in his opinion. in the founding and before the founding in england in the 1500s through blackstone on the colonial era,. in the cloning will. we had here in the northeast laws that effectively banned people from having l

judge cavanaugh says this, by nling. there's nothing -- analogy. there's nothing wrong with that. to analogize is find relevant similarities between two things. that puts a lot of weight on what judges see as relevant similarities. maybe their views look like yours but maybe they don't. maybe their intuitions are the same as yours, maybe they're not. maybe they are protective of gun rights, maybe they're not. but i think there's a reason to be skeptical of a test that says it's based on text, history and tradition but i think will probably boil down to a test of judicial intuition or judicial analogy. >> lawyers on sides ofs debate both the issue tonight at 8:00 p.m. here on c-span. ♪ ♪ brian lamb: manal al-sharif, you have a book called, "daring to drive." why did you write this? manal al-sharif: why? tough ti