to discuss that i'm now joined by the shallow laue research fellow at the weather had center for international affairs at harvard dr always good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you i'm very pleased to be here it's great to be with you now it's been 10 years since the arab spring and since then i mean had there a lot of commentators making fun and qualms about the seasonality all of that movement you know at the arab spring turning into an islamist fall or are a dictatorial winter and i understand that it's very easy to get disheartened by what happened since 2011 but i wonder if you see anything lastingly positive to come out there was a bad well i think we must look at these you know of these arab uprisings you know calling it the arab spring or uprisings or evolutions as a matter of debate but i think we should look upon them with the idea that this is a process it's a long process it's not an event for people that knew the region very well people suspected that these would not materialize in democracies very fast i think really the respective of everything else putting to the

worlds apart that doesn't actually sound cloud mean research fellow at the weather has center for international affairs at harvard the july we before the break we were talking about what it takes to build a functioning democracy and i remember you saying in one of the ancient years that the arab spring was a deep that was powered by a deep sense of. self-determination and your need for south of the terminations and self-determination obviously requires a lot of south knowledge which is probably one of the hardest things in life both from an individual level and on a collective level do you think to this day kate full of hopes and disappointments people in the arab world this themselves well enough to be both sober and enthusiastic about what has to be done for their friends for themselves and for their own countries. look this is this is not coming from a vacuum before the arab spring there were other historical phases which were which were which had a lot of you know which had a lot of potential people have understood in our region very well what self-determination means before it was about. nationali

to discuss that i'm now joined by shallow law a research fellow at the weatherhead center for international * affairs at harvard dr always good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you i'm very pleased to be here it's great to be with you now it's been 10 years since the arab spring and since then we've had a lot of commentators making fun and han's about the seasonality all of that movement you know at the arab spring turning into an islamist full or dictatorial winter and i understand that it's very easy yes. disheartened by what happened since 2011 but i wonder if you see anything lastingly positive to come out of there was a bad well i think we must look at these you know ideas arab uprisings.

to discuss that i'm now joined by shallow louay research fellow at the weatherhead center for international * affairs at harvard. jelly's good to talk to thank you very much for your time thank you i'm very pleased to be here it's great to be with you now it's been 10 years since the arab spring and since then i mean had there a lot of commentators making fun and qualms about the seasonality all of that movement you know at the arab spring turning into an islamist fall or a dictatorial winter and i understand that it's very easy to get disheartened by what happened since 2011 but i wonder if you see anything lastingly positive to come out there was a bad well i think we must look at these you know of these arab uprisings you know calling it the arab spring or uprisings or revolutions as a matter of debate but i think we should look upon them with the idea that this is a process it's a long process it's not an event for people that knew the region very well people suspected that these would not materialize in democracies very fast i think really irrespective of everything else putting to the side the

to discuss that i'm now joined by shallow law a research fellow at the weatherhead center for international * affairs at harvard dr always good to talk to you thank you very much for your time thank you i'm very pleased to be here it's great to be with you now it's been 10 years since the arab spring and since then i mean it's had a lot of commentators making fun and.