chaffetz: mr. speaker, i move that the house suspend the rules and pass h.r. 4053 as amended. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: union calendar number 509, h.r. 4053, a bill to intensify efforts to identify, prevent, and recover payment error, waste, fraud, and abuse within federal spending. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from utah, mr. chaffetz, and the gentleman from new york, mr. towns, each will control 20 men's. the chair recognizes the gentleman from utah. mr. chaffetz: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. chaffetz: i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous materials on the bill under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. chaffetz: thank you, mr. speaker. federal agencies made an estimated $108 billion in improper paymen

congressman chaffetz, is it plan b, plan c? what is it going to be? in august we did pass a bill that is sitting this over in the senate that i think we all like. you look at what this modified version is, there is no increase -- >> we don't have that. this morning there was news maybe we would give them a two-year increase. there is no increase in the debt limit, which is what i think we need to do. we also need to make sure that 14 days from now, every single american is going to get a tax increase and if i can protect 99% of the people in this country from getting that tax increase, i want to do that. i think that's a responsible thing to do. >> gohmert, would you support that? >> when jay carney says he moved halfway on this thing, what you got to go back and see is the president demanded an extra $800 billion in tax increases. john boehner starts out and says okay, we'll do that. and what do they do? they move to 1.6 trillion in tax increases. >> wait a minute. >> the president doesn't want to deal. >> congressman gohmert, would you support what

chaffetz: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. chaffetz: i ask that all members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous materials on the bill under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: weather. mr. chaffetz: we're about to come up on a very important date regarding world war i this bill sponsored by the gentleman from texas, mr. poe, h.r. 6364 is a very worthy undertaking that the congress i believe should enact. so in the spirit of that, i'd like to actually recognize and yield time, such time as he may consume to the gentleman from texas, mr. poe. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. poe: appreciate the gentleman from utah yielding time. madam speaker, frank buckles was the epitome of an american hero and a man who would do anything for this great united states of america. this is a photograph of him recently taken after he joined the united states army. frank buckles wanted to be in the united states ar

chaffetz: thank you, madam speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. chaffetz: i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on the bill under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. chaffetz: thank you, madam speaker. at this time i'd like to yield such time as he may consume to the original sponsor of this bill, the gentleman from texas, mr. poe. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. poe: i thank the gentleman from utah for yielding. and his support on this legislation. and also the gentlewoman from district of columbia. madam speaker, they said that world war i would be the war to end all wars, but it wasn't. it was a world war, it encompassed the entire globe and most of the countries in the world. the war started in 1914, the united states entered in april of 1917. the united states entered the war for t

jason khaeu chaffetz. republican.ld not have voted for plan b, would you? >> no, yes i wanted to avert as many tax increases as possible. i told the speaker i would support it. i don't liken creasing taxes on anybody. my conscious is clear. we passed a bill in august that extended every single one of the tax rates and would have averted this. it's the united states senate that hasn't acted. but we are where we are. bill: congressman royce would you have voted in favor of plan b? >> yes i'll tell you why. we face a situation on january 1 where every single american taxpayer will see their taxes go up especially when you consider the amt, 33 million americans are going to owe the amt as a result of not taking action. and on top of that we are going to lose more and more leverage as time goes on, because the president wants as much as he can get in tax increases on the public, and wants to do as little as possible in terms of spending cuts. so, frankly, in these negotiations we've got to strengthen our hand, and so what

and my round table will join me, representative jason chaffetz, harold ford, jr., andrea mitchell andodd. back in a moment. >>> nobody gets a hundred percent of what they want. everybody's got to give a little bit in a sensible way. we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. >> that was the president of course. we're back with our roundtable. joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford, jr., chuck todd and nbc correspondent andrea mitchell. welcome to all of you. all right, chuck. we'll talk about guns in a minute. let's talk about the fiscal cliff. are we going to get a deal here? >> we're going to get a small deal. it's a shame. you wonder is the only thing that could change things, the holidays, does it change boehner's mind? does it change the president's mind? i think the president is making a mistake to make a small deal. he should try one more time for the big deal. you had nearly 200 hous

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congressman jason chaffetz thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you, judge. >>> comingmore on the so-called resignation of four from the state department with former state department insider. and later, russian president vladimir putin makes it illegal, that's what i said, illegal for americans to adopt russian orphans. >> four individuals in the state department high level were going to lose their jobs if the secretary had accepted a resignation of eric boswell for example one of the heads of the security when the truth is he resigned in that position but he has his portfolio includes other positions within the state department. he hasn't been punished at all for the security lapses in benghazi. and the other three are on administrative leave basically a paid vacation over the christmas holiday and they will be back in another capacity the state department. they promised heads would roll nothing has rolled. >> what about the state department people that were head accountable today. joe lleyton said they are still on the payroll. with knee is fox news mill tear reap ana

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joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford, jr., chuck todd and nbc correspondent andrea mitchell. let's talk about the fiscal cliff. are wire going e going to get a? >> we're going to get a small deal. it's a shame. you wonder is the only thing that could change things, the holidays, does it change boehner's mind? i think the president is making a mistake to make pa small deal. he should try one more time for the big deal. you had nearly 200 house republicans about to vote to raise taxes on millionaires. that means could you get it up from 400 to 750? a deal is within reach. he's got to figure out -- i think go one more time. they seem to have had it and they don't want to try boehner one more time but i think they're making a big mace take. -- making a big mistake. >> congressman, if he puts down a bill that requires democrats to get it pass, there will be a revolt. >> my frustration is with the democrats because the house republicans, our conscience is clear. in august we passed a bill to extend all of the tax rates. we did

chaffetz: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from texas. i rise in support of senate bill 2170, the hatch act modernization act of 2012. i'd also like to thank and commend ranking member cummings and his work with chairman issa for bringing this bill to the floor on a bipartisan and bicameral basis. i want to commend senator mike lee for his concern, particularly what happened in utah, and his good work with senator akaka. the bill wouldn't be here without their good work and i commend them both on working on, again, in a bipartisan way. i'm also a proud co-sponsor of h.r. 4152, sponsored by ranking member cummings. i'm glad to come together with him, which is the house compan wrong to senate 2170. senate bill 2170 makes long overdue reforms to the hatch act which became law nearly 75 years ago. while numerous reforms of this legislation includes -- are all important, i haddy like to highlight the reform made by section 2 of this bill. in may of this year the oversight and government reform subcommittee with jurisdiction on the federal work

. >> jason chaffetz, thank you.ou on "meet the press" on sunday with david gregory, and president obama expecting to make his announcement nominating john kerry for secretary of state at any moment in the roosevelt room at the white house, and we'll bring it to you live. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] citi turns 200 this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ >>> thank you very much. this is a week after the horror in connecticut. we're still burying the dead, those children. the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morn

joining me congress jason chaffetz of utah, former democratic congressman of tennessee, harold ford,dd and nbc correspondent andrea mitchell. let's talk about the fiscal cliff. are wire going e going to get a? >> we're going to get a small deal. it's a shame. you wonder is the only thing that could change things, the holidays, does it change boehner's mind? i think the president is making a mistake to make pa small deal. he should try one more time for the big deal. you had nearly 200 house republicans about to vote to raise taxes on millionaires. that means could you get it up from 400 to 750? a deal is within reach. he's got to figure out -- i think go one more time. they seem to have had it and they don't want to try boehner one more time but i think they're making a big mace take. -- making a big mistake. >> congressman, if he puts down a bill that requires democrats to get it pass, there will be a revolt. >> my frustration is with the democrats because the house republicans, our conscience is clear. in august we passed a bill to extend all of the tax rates. we did deal with the

our roundtable by george will, donna brazile, joe klein of "time" magazine and congressman jason chaffetzan donna edwards. into friday and saturday, there is a depressing sameness to the conversation coming out of each tragedy. >> yes, and our response is always to think is there some defect in the social system or some prompting in the social atmosphere that causes this and, therefore, we assume we can tailor a law to correct the defect. the problem is, the law can do three things. it can deter with severe punishments. of course, we already have lots of deterrents against murder and impede the accesses to public spaces or to weapons or, third, the law can monitor and in some cases confine people who meet the profile of these people. the problem with this is these people are determined, psychotic and often suicidal. it's very difficult to deter someone like that or impede, and then when you come to the question of monitoring confining, you look at the profile. these are often men, young men, young unmarried men, young men who are socially awkward and sometimes young unmarried socially awk

chaffetz: i have no further speakers and reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from the district of columbia. ms. norton: i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from utah. mr. chaffetz: i would like to thank representative poe for introducing this legislation. the intill bipartisan in its approach, it creates a means for properly commemorating the centennial of the great war and honoring those who fwallantly fought. i urge my colleagues to vote in concurrence with the senate amendment to h.r. 6364 and remind people that no taxpayer dollars will be used to carry out this act. i encourage my colleagues to vote in favor of this an yield back the balance of our time. the speaker pro tempore: the question is will the house suspend the rules and concur in the senate amendment to h.r. 6364? those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. ms. norton: i object to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present -- the speaker pro tempore: in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 being in the affirmative

representative jason chaffetz who is helping lead this investigation in the house, wants to talk to a lot of people who were survivors of this attack. it is not just that ambassador stevens and three others were killed, several others were injured and they have information. he can not get in contact with them. there is lot of conflict between republicans on the hill and the administration that has not been resolved. bill: that is an interesting point. all the people have a story. the question is whether or not we hear is publicly. byron york, thank you. >> thank you, bill. bill: alisyn. alisyn: ambassador rice is expected to meet with the president privately today. the president has been vocal for her and blasting republican critics for what he calls unfair and misleading attacks on rice. bill: more americans want to see senator john kerry nominated as the next secretary of state more than ambassador rice even before she took her name out of public contention. the latest fox polling showing 23% supporting senator kerry, 19% went for ambassador rice. 37% said they want to see someone e

jason chaffetz republican from utah, said on cable news show it was a priority to fund security theremay be systemic failure and maybe not an individual to blame which would have made some people happy. martha: alan, everybody agrees with you, you have to accept hillary clinton's condition with the concussion on face of it and fact sheep is not available this week to testify. however what we do know all the way leading up to that issue, that health issue she has not wanted to testify. so you know completely remove that from the discussion and you can say that she refused to go on any sunday shows to talk about this. she, you know, there is with a lot of discussion whether or not she would testify to it at all. but we remember, this is what her immediate reaction when she was talking about it here's what she did say. >> let me state very clearly and i hope it is obvious, that the united states government had absolutely nothing to do with this video. we absolutely reject its content and message. america's commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of other nation.

chaffetz says coincidence? i don't think so. the state department owes us a report.nouncement today. you're starting to see the department squirm a little. they're saying maybe we'll give you a summary. secretary clinton may not come up. i think the report, if done accurately, will be a very difficult thing for the white house, the state department, the department of defense and the c.i.a. to explain. >> gretchen: there is a lot of moving parts that were happening yesterday afternoon. first of all, it started coming out that hillary clinton may be wouldn't testify on december 20 as planned. moments later, susan rice takes herself out of the running. one of the main reasons potentially that this report is coming out, remember, susan rice extended the olive grant and met with senator lindsey graham and john mccain, her two fiercest critics. she then met with senator susan collin a moderate. she also came out of the meeting saying, i actually have more questions now than i did before. so if you couldn't get the moderate republican to vote for you for secretary of state,

. >> gretchen: we heard jason chaffetz talk about church and the responsibility there. my church in connecticut, first presbyterian church, packed, packed. people probably coming there for hope. i want to show think picture because it was probably one of the most important church services that i've ever had the opportunity to attend. you can see all the poinsettias for christmas. but then you see the lights up there at the front of the church. those are 27 candles that were all lit as each name of each victim, including the shooter, was named by one of our ministers. earlier before the children left the sanctuary, there was a children's sermon in which they talked about how important the light of a candle can be in the life of a child if you have the opportunity to believe in christianity. then the children left the service. i was wondering would the minister talk a lot about the shooting. he had an amazing sermon where he said that as a man of god after all of these years, that he was intellectually empty and vacant as to how he could respond to what happened in newtow

chafe et cetera -- he is not -- chaffetz, he is not seeking time. mr. speaker, as we close for the christmas season, i just want to make a few comments about what has transpired today, and i think it is noteworthy that those members who are departing have talked about what it means to serve in the u.s. house of representatives and how grateful we are they have chosen that service. and we each have made a commitment to make certain that we are committed to pushing, pushing the federal government to get its fiscal house in order. indeed, mr. hensarling many times has said that that is our primary goal as conservatives because we know that the greatest threat to our nation's security is our nation's debt. many of us talk about admiral cullen's comments when he said the greatest threat to our nation's security is our nation's debt. and this week as we have looked at the so-called fiscal cliff and looked at the expiration of the tax cuts. as we have worked through the growing and just rolling debt that is sweeping over this government, as we have watched thi