the catholic philosopher charles taylor. the canadian offer author of a sexual or age. he says. that taylor suggests that some version of what you're describing is an affable if we get the history of the last 500 years of right. it has been decoupled from the state. in the north atlantic help society. they are on a quest to find fullness and meaning that can only be understood in religious terms. taylor calls this kind of a nova effect. an explosion of religious options. he defends this pluralism against the charges. the individualistic or to quartet narcissistic and so on. and so. i think that dovetails with what some of what you meant sane. same. i want to take it though and link it to some we briefly mentioned. the social justice movement. and black lives matter's and the protest politics that are dominating discussion right now. one thing that has struck me. about those protests is that it seems like there is the nova effect and the desire for individualism. but also still a desire for a religious unity. it is striking to see in some of the corporate bullshit. we want to liv

he cites catholics philosopher charles taylor, the canadian author of a secular age, the largest book you can possibly buy and maybe possibly read. and he says taylor suggests some version of what you are describing is inevitable and get the last five years right because religion has been decoupled from the state and society it but humans are still on a quest to find fullness and meaning. which can only be understood in religious terms. taylor called it a nova effect. an explosion of religious options for it and he defends his pluralism against charges that it's too individualistic, or too narcissistic and so on. and i think that does dovetail some of what you have been saying. i want to take it and link it the social justice movements in the black lives matter in protest politics that are sort of dominating discussion right now. one thing that struck me about those protests is, it seems like there is there's the nova effect and the desire for individualism. there's also still a desire for religious unity. it is kind of striking to see, some of it is corporate will ship. but the sense

we sit here reading, and for every two weeks with our close partners, charles taylor, charles peterson, we are just talking about the book. there might be a little liquor flowing, but the point is we are trying to figure out how to maintain each other and how to be a a shoulder to so how are they going to be coming out on the opposite end of this the way we've tried to continue under these conditions what it will look like when we get on the other side of this might be even deeper if that makes sense. >> i hope so and that is a possibility in the project of making time for one another. .. >> and resolve that nothing would get in the way of the love we have for the people. whatever it takes. that whatever it takes and that's part of the great tradition that started the dialogue. [laughter] >> i been waiting my whole life to be in conversations like these and i am hopeful i was prepared thank you for the time you have given to us. black people who love black people and care for our souls and there is a question here how we raise our black children. how do we negotiate our own radicalized

we will start with a question, he cites a catholic philosopher charles taylor the canadian author of a secular age, the largest book you can possibly by and may be possibly read. and he says taylor suggests some version of what you are describing is inevitable the of the history of the last 500 years right. and religion has been decoupled from the state and north atlantic societies but humans are still on a quest to find fullness and meeting which can only be understood in religious terms. so taylor calls this a kind of nova effect. an explosion of religious options. and he defends his puller religion against charges that it's too individualistic or too narcissistic and so on. and so, i think that dovetails, that obviously doesn't dovetail with some of what you have been saying for it i want to take it though and link it to it we briefly mention the social justice movements. and black lives matter sort of protest politics that are sort of dominating discussion right now. one thing that struck me about those protests is it seems like there is the nova effect in sort of the desire for

he cites the catholic philosopher charles taylor, the canadian author of "a secular age," the largest book that you can possibly buy and maybe possibly read. and avi says that taylor suggests some version of what you're describing is inevitable if we get the history of the last 500 years right since religion has been decoupled from the state in north atlantic societies, but humans are still on a quest to find fullness and meaning which can only be understood in religious terms. an explosion of religious options. and he defends this pluralism against charges that it's too individualistic or too narcissistic and so on. and so that, that, i think that dovetails, avi's point dovetails with some of what you've been saying. i want to take it, though, and link it. we briefly mentioned some of the social justice movements, you know, black lives matters and the proit's politics -- protest politics that are sort of dominating conversation right now. one thing that struck me about those protests is it seems like there is, there is the nova effect and sort of the desire for individualism, but the

moderator's prerogative but we will start with a question from avi, he cites the catholics philosopher charles taylor, the canadian author of a secular age . the largest book you can possibly buy andmaybe possibly read . and obviously that taylor suggests that some version of what you're describing is inevitable if we get the history of the last 500 years right and religion have been decoupled from the state in north atlantic society and humans are still on the quest to find fullness and meaning which can only be understood in religious terms so taylor calls this kind of nova effect. an explosion of religious options and he defends this pluralism against charges that it's too individualistic or too narcissistic and so on . and so that, i think that dovetails with some of what you've been saying. i want to take it and link it to we briefly mentioned the social justice movements, black lives matter and this protest politics that are dominating thediscussion right now . one thing that struck me about those protests is it seems like there is, the nova effect and the desire for individualism but there's s

charles: lord lord & taylor, america's oldest department store filing for bankruptcy. ti here with the breaking details. lauren? lauren: used to shop there all the time, charles. almost 200 years old. yes, lord and day who are filed for chapter 11 yesterday. it was sold $111 million to a french called la tote. they filed for bankruptcy. they upgrade website, even allowing for clothing rental returns in the store but lord & taylor had too many problems. they closed the new york city flagship last year. well, the coronavirus just sealed their fate. now la tote and lord & taylor will look for buyers of 38 remaining stores. 19 of those properties have liquidation sales. lord & taylor is not only one struggling. men's wearhouse, an taylor also filing bankruptcy, along with jcpenney, neiman marcus, brooks brothers, j. crew, the list goes on. the question how bad does it get for department stores and luxury shopping? commercial real estate firm, cbre, 16 luxury shopping districts in new york city alone saw rents drop under $700 a square foot for the first time since 9/11. trop

weeks we are getting one zoom for two hours with their close partners mark everson and paul taylor and charles peterson and charles kenny and we get talking about the book. then there might be a little liquor flowing but the point is it's time to figure out how to maintain each other's soul, how to be not a crutch but a shoulder. in the midst of this so how are we going to be on the opposite end of this the way which we are trying to continue over laysha's with each other under these conditions and what it will look like when we get on the other side of this. my guess it will be even deeper if that makes sense. >> i certainly hope so and i think that's a real possibility of project of making time for each other. >> coal train loves this resolution. absolving self. resolve ourselves. nothing will get in the way of our love for each other. and a child could have been born in virginia and got sold to houston texas. we never got about -- forgot about that and as soon as you get for you walk from virginia to texas and you are going to get there. nothing will get in the way of the love that we have

whether you are the family of briana taylor or david dorn, these are the ideals that will heal our nation's wounds. charlesou know, he brings up the question, and here's the thing, why is there no compassion across the board? what happened, tiana, to the notion you can feel pain for a black man who is shot in the back, and you know, by several police officers and then you know you can feel pain for the business owner who is entire life savings have gone up in flames by looters and rioters? i saw a video of a police officer being hit with a brick. why are we being made to pick a lane in this country? >> sew we've completely jumped to this very tribal reaction where you can't necessarily just say you support respect for general law enforcement and also support some reforms to rein in individual instances of police abuse of power. and so i mean we're seeing this right now with wisconsin. we still don't know all of the details about these horrific killings from last night. we have two dead, one in critical condition. we don't know who the aggressors were. but what we do know, tons of private property and innoc

charles. >>> another retail ice age story. lauren, lord & taylor. on the chopping block. tell me more.dest department store, now filing for bankruptcy and get this. it was sold just last year for $100 million to a french company and that company also filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy yesterday. the retail ice age, the bad news continues. taylor brands filed chapter 11 as well yesterday. it owns men's warehouse and jos as a. bank. corporate clothing is not selling. we are working from home. that's another reason why ann taylor's parent filed for chapter 11 last week. brooks brothers. all of these stores were struggling pre-pandemic and the virus accelerated their decline. stuart: you think we will -- lauren: the landscape for retail will look a lot different. stuart: you think you can see the demise of the suit for men? lauren: yes. i think casual friday has changed that, a few years ago. one of the reasons all of these companies were struggling. i think it's going to come back. it's just going to take, well, time. stuart: all right. thanks, lauren. show you the white house again. in a fe

. >> you and i don't have time to blink, and every two weeks, for two hours, paul taylor, charles peterson, might be a lick of slowing -- how to figure out to maintain, and and -- there's an opposite end of this, and who it is on the other side of it. >> in the project of making time for one another. >> in part 2 of the resolution. to resolve ourselves, nothing will get in the way of our love of each other. got sold to houston, texas, never forgot about that and as soon as you are free you get to continue - nothing will get in the way of the love we have for the people and whatever it takes, whatever it takes, that is part of the great tradition and the dialogue. >> you have tease out of us -- >> 30 years. >> i have been waiting to be in conversations like these, grateful for the time you have given to us. transitioning to this question how we raise our black children, i was raised by black people, and souls and intellect and the question how we raise our black children. how i feel raising black children, how do i negotiate radicalized trauma, not to get burned in white strips. >> a wonder

taylor, i am representing you right now. thank you all. a powerful speech there, mitch mcconnell is in a tough senate race in kentucky so charles becker fromm baltimore. good to talk to you. thanks to being with us. some up for us the importance of today‘s event in your mind. this is a monumental moment, coming 57 years after the first march 0n washington when we were fighting forjobs. my when we were fighting forjobs. my father was at that march and there was a sense from doctor king, john lewis, the other leaders assembled, that this was the moment we had to change the country. they were told then and charged with going back home and working in your own community. if you look at the landscape in 1963, the landscape looks familiar to where we are now. racial protests happening, police brutality and this is a moment to say it has not been settled yet, it has not been solved yet, it has not been solved yet, once and for all it must end. i am going to come back to you, we will go back to washington and here the latest speakers who have taken the stadium. it's time to invest in communities and it is time to invest in historically black couege