he knows it's an eight e-20 issue. 80% of the country is with charlie kirk and avenue some.to side with the 80 and maybe kick the 20 when a lot of people in the middle of the country don't like the 20 that much. >> trace: all play one more sound between gavin newsom and charlie kirk. >> you guys have not build to the intellectual muscle over 30 years because you all agree with each other all the time. [simultaneous talking] >> i would push back a little bit. we have a robust discussion. >> it seems like congress is doing great oversight of trump right now. >> trace: they control congress. the republicans, that's what people voted for. >> that's what people voted for. conservatives are hard into little bit. we disagree with each other and we also take a lot of incoming fire and criticism are met we are able to kind of engage in this conversation in a way that democrats struggle with. >> i it's very interesting that at this moment where the democrats are kind of in the wilderness looking for their political leader, seems as if governor newsom wants to try to position him as th

his first guest, conservative activist and pro-trump media personality, charlie kirk. this one isn't 80 20 ish and your times poll, right? that's all i can it right us to do that. and like crushing what's not fair is just like a woman's. >> entire woman. sports, a great, you know. but agree some, though, adding he feels it is important. the transgender community is not marginalized. these poor people are more likely commit suicide of anxiety, depression and the weight that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue. >> that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand still for trans activist and leader bambi saucedo with the trans latin. now coalition newsom's message on trans athletes is not acceptable. my emotions really one of anger and one of this appointments i govern our. >> should be the one who is there to protect us rain, particularly in this political ties. and with his remarks really says that he is not standing in somebody's that it with one of the most marginalized populations. it's a sentiment echoed in this statement

he says, charlie kirk is a vile bigot.this is the assembly member, the state senator wiener, saying this and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. so, brian, should newsom be concerned about this backlash from from democrats? >> well, not if he's concerned about drawing in voters from around the united states, heather, because, again, you have a california reaction to these comments, but not across the united states. people in other states, more conservative states, states, first of all, would accept and agree with at least half of what governor newsom said, which was that it's there's unfairness in having male trans to women athletes competing against women. now, you know, governor newsom's got a long history in athletics. so he has an opinion on that. the part where he talks about these poor people, which i thought was a poor choice of words because everybody's got dignity. everybody is the same. at least they should be treated and otherwise. but i think what he was trying to say was we ought to have

his first guest, conservative activist and pro-trump media personality, charlie kirk.e isn't 80 20 ish and your times poll, right? that's all i can it right us to do that. and like rush and what's not fair is just like a woman's. >> entire woman sports, a great, you know. but agree newsom, though, adding he feels it is important. the transgender community is not marginalized. these poor people are more likely commit suicide of anxiety, depression have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand still for trans activist and leader bambi saucedo with the trans latin. now coalition newsom's message on trans athletes is not acceptable. my emotions really one of anger and one of this appointments i govern our. >> should be the one who is there to protect us rain, particularly in this political times. and with his remarks really says that he is not standing in somebody's that it with one of the most marginalized populations. it's a sentiment echoed in this statement by the california lgbtq legislative caucus. quote, sometimes gavin newsom goes for the prof

that was charlie kirk. you'll probably see steve bannon next. know. >> we've seen so many politicians try to -- where are my people going? i must lead them, and it doesn't work for them, right? the voters want authenticity. the problem for the democratic party is there's no consistency. the party has sob to be so weak, almost nonexistent. in the meantime though, i thought senator schiff's answer was bonkers when asked, you know, what should democrats be doing about tariffs? his answer was, messaging. no. you're in congress. your job is not to be on the news. vote. congress gave this power. >> jonathan: well, they are in the minority. >> say what you are going to do if you can take back the majority. repeal the president's power to have this much criminal over -- control over tariffs, but you don't hear democrats saying that. >> they're losing the working it's these words about the economy. >> they're losing the working class in the meantime. >> they're not. democrats -- democrats understand what the fight is all about. we're not sleepwalking. wh

and charlie kirk, of course, is brilliant.tions that demand common sense answers. this is over an 80-20 issue. when gavin newsom is breaking with his party, is he basically saying we need to try to go more to the center. but i would say, respectfully to governor newsom now do sanctuary city. now do anti-recidivism. now ridiculous ev mandate compliance in your state. that's a beautiful state with man made problems. if he and john fetterman want to bring along a few other democrats who just exercise common sense, great. i think right now, because of president trump's great success, that the democrats seem -- they seem cornered and check mated, brian, so if they are starting to show some little -- you need to align with the public. do you know what is different for president trump now? the public is aligned with his agenda. they trust him on migration and inflation. next month is 10 years since donald trump elevated into the national consciousness. 10 years. and illegal immigration border security and trade. now most americans, o

this is the same charlie kirk. so one thing to platform him, but i think this is all for clicks. >> we got to go. but i will just note that tonight he described newsom as inauthentic. essentially he said it was purely this was charlie kirk. he's describing his conversation with gavin newsom. he said it was purely transactional. so i'm not. >> sure that the governor gravel. >> there you go. governor. governor newsom, is anyone surprised? >> everyone is surprised. have you. >> seen gavin newsom? >> hey, that's my guy. don't talk about gavin. >> i love. >> my friends. everyone, thank you very much for joining us. news in just tonight, officials have revealed the cause of the mysterious deaths of gene hackman and his wife. we'll have much more on that ahead. >> it's the news. welcome back. but it's also kind of not the news. >> all the information on this show. so terrible. >> have i got news for you. new tomorrow on cnn. >> when you break down the cost, it's basically free. nine tablets for $7 for 100mg generic viagra

this is the same charlie kirk. so one thing to platform him, but i think this is all for clicks. >> we got to go. but i will just note that tonight he described newsom as inauthentic. essentially he said it was purely this was charlie kirk. he's describing his conversation with gavin newsom. he said it was purely transactional. so i'm not sure. >> that the governor. >> gravel. >> there you. >> go. the governor governor. >> is anyone surprised, though? >> anyone surprised? have you seen gavin newsom? >> hey, that's my guy. don't talk about gas. i love. >> my friends. everyone, thank you very much for joining us. news in just tonight, officials have revealed the cause of the mysterious deaths of gene hackman and his wife. we'll have much more on that ahead. >> like a. relentless weed. moderate to severe. >> ulcerative colitis. >> symptoms can keep coming. >> back. >> start to break. >> away from uc with. >> tremfya. >> with rapid relief. >> at four weeks. >> tremfya blocks. >> a key source of inflammation. >> at one

anyway, here with more turning point founder ceo charlie kirk. charlie, great to have you. so last night i knew you were on the show tonight. i tuned in and i was listening to the podcast and i didn't get through all of it. but first of all, you were very gracious. you were very nice. you could have gone at him really, really hard. you did it in a really nice way. and i'm. i know gavin too. well. i've interviewed gavin, i moderated, i think you brought it up. i moderated the debate with desantis, and i have tried to reason with this man, and he does not listen ever. maybe. is this the tipping point for him? did you get the feeling he really wants to change? >> i don't know, i think he wants to be president, sean, more than anything else on the planet. i think you can agree he has more political ambition than almost anybody in the democrat party. and i think he understands that the entire country is moving center right and is accelerating at a rapid pace. in fact, we are course correcting after four failed years under joe biden and all of the woke stuff and the anti common s

charlie kirk. and this is generated passionate reactions locally and across the country today, san francisco supervisor matt dorsey posted saying he disagrees with the governor's remarks and called on lgbtq+ leaders and allies to stand behind their commitment to inclusion for the trans community. other democrats, though, think newsom is correct to try to lead the democratic party to his position on the issue. and joining us now for more on this is kron 4 political analyst michael yaki. good afternoon, michael, good to see you. good to see you. grant. did it surprise you that newsom went public with us? >> it didn't surprise me so much as how you did it. certain leading off his new podcast having charlie kirk of turning point usa, one of the most conservative nonprofit, although terry political organizations in the country as his first guest. and, you know, i mean, i'm i've been around politics for a lo-g time. this was quick visit. sort of gavin doing is version of bill clinton's sister soldier mom

. >> his comments to charlie kirk that have his own party pretty mad. >>> then, a novato man drove for three days straight into a war zone. why he is already planning his trip back to ukraine. and. >>> is san francisco's effort to crack down on crime making a difference or does pushing the problem around? >>> then it's the weirdest ballpark knack we have heard of and you know it's bad when the video of it is hard to watch. >> from kpix5, this is the late news with sara donchey on cbs news bay area. >> i'm sara donchey. two decades ago, gavin newsom ushered in same sex marriages as mayor of san francisco. putting him at the forefront of lgbtq rights. now people are shocked as he suggested that transgender girls should not participate in women's sports but political analysts say we should be reading in between the lines. this is not necessarily talk you would expect from liberal current governor gavin newsom. >> would you do something like that? say no men in female sports? >> it is an issue of fairness. >> reporter: in the debut of his podcast, he sat opposite conservative activist char

california governor gavin newsom doing a podcast interview with charlie kirk. you know, a big supporter of of trump. and so i think there's this moment where democrats are trying to figure out who their leader is and what their message is, but they're just really struggling to do so. >> wait, so tyler, you mentioned this. sit down with gavin newsom and this conservative activist, maga loyalist, charlie kirk. they had a chat this week for his podcast, and newsom did make some headlines because he broke with the democratic party on the issue of transgender athletes in sports. we can play that clip. >> that would you say no men in. >> female sports? >> well. >> i think. >> it's an issue of fairness. >> i completely agree with you on that. >> it is an. >> issue of fairness. >> there's also a humility and grace that you know, that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand. >> s

charlie kirk and the governor's comments of generated passionate reactions today. san frantisco supervisor matt dorsey posted saying he disagrees with the governor's remarks and called on lgbtq+ leaders and allies. >> to stand with the trans community. many others, though, including democrats think this is just a stepping stone issue for newsom in his presidential bid. >> it it was it was politics and its politics team 2020. and i think anyone we should be too surprised about that. but except for maybe the fact that he did charlie kirk. >> newsom's term as california's governor is set to and next year. kamala harris could soon enter the race for california governor, according to a new report from politico, the former vice president is seriously considering a run for the 2026. gubernatorial election. when newsom terms out the report went on to say harris has given herself until the end of the summer to make a decision. you may recall a poll from emerson college in inside california politics last month found that fires just entered the race. she would usually clear t

charlie kirk, give us advice. >> get better ideas. >> jesse: gavin newsom asking charlie kirk for mediat's a problem with the democrats. they think it's all messaging and media strategy. they just have bad ideas. if they have any ideas at all. obviously newsom is running for president in 28 so he has to flip-flop on trans. >> you right now should come out and be like you know what, the young man whose about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports, that should not happen. you as a governor should step up and say no. >> i appreciate that. >> would you do something like that, would you say no men in female sports? >> i think it's an issue of fairness, i agree. >> would you speak out against his young man who right now is going to win the state championship in the long jump? i can see wrestling with it. >> i'm not wrestling with it, the fairness issue, i agree. i completely agree. that's easy to call out. >> jesse: easy to call out? if it's so easy why hasn't he done it? california has let boys play and boy sports for ten years. avenue and has been lieutenant and gov

newsom was asked by conservative activist charlie kirk about trans athletes. >> did you say no men and female sports? >> well, i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also a humility and grace that, you know, that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand. >> the comments sparked a strong response from the california legislative lgbtq caucus. >> harmful, hurtful and divisive language that just feeds into a narrative out there. that is something that is the trump and the republican party are obsessed with. >> gabriella antolovic, with the south bay's billy defrank lgbtq plus community center, said the comments were especially surprising because newsom has been an ally in the community. >> he was our big hero when he was in san francisco with the marrying the first same sex couple and very pro the lgbtq plus c

charlie kirk today, san francisco supervisor matt dorsey chiming in on act saying he disagrees with the governor's remarks and called on lgbtq+ leaders and allies to stand with the trans community. many don't think this is just a stepping stone issue for newsom's bid for the presidency. it it was it was politics and its. >> politics team 2020 and i think anyone we should be too surprised about that. but except for maybe the fact that he did charlie kirk. >> while newsom's term as california's governor is set to end again next year. >> so news at 6, we now know the cause of death for actor gene hackman and his wife as well as their dog will get into that. plus, prices are still rising. and as the bird flu continues to be problematic with lawmakers are doing to try to bring down the prices of and when to change your clocks this weekend. and it is time to be done with it is time to be done with that practice i guess what i'm looking for from you is, i mean, i know how the fire affected me, and there's always a constant fear that who's to say something like that won't happen again? that's f

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. >> his comments to charlie kirk that have his own party pretty mad. >>> then, a novato man drove fore days straight into a war zone. why he is already planning his trip back to ukraine. and. >>> is san francisco's effort to crack down on crime making a difference or does pushing the problem around? >>> then it's the weirdest ballpark knack we have heard of and you know it's bad when the video of it is hard to watch. >> from kpix5, this is the late news with sara donchey on cbs news bay area. >> i'm sara donchey. two decades ago, gavin newsom ushered in same sex marriages as mayor of san francisco. putting him at the forefront of lgbtq rights. now people are shocked as he suggested that transgender girls should not participate in women's sports but political analysts say we should be reading in between the lines. this is not necessarily talk you would expect from liberal current governor gavin newsom. >> would you do something like that? say no men in female sports? >> it is an issue of fairness. >> reporter: in the debut of his podcast, he sat opposite conservative activist charlie k

i believe at that part, charlie kirk was saying they weren't weaponizing it.they were just highlighting it. what did you make of what governor newsom had to say? >> well, i think i made of it what most people will make of it, which is he read the. i mean, he pretty much said it. he. he was impressed by how they weaponized the issue. if i were here's my advice. if i were giving the governor advice, i'd say, you know, don't don't be so overt that people can see the wheels turning the the obvious question would be, well, you've been governor of a of california for six years. you were a lieutenant governor for many years before that. when did you have this epiphany? you know, and and it and the answer is when he found that the republicans could weaponize the issue. >> you know, the. thing that bothered me about. the whole. incident was it was such an obvious gimmick, right? he needed some headlines to say, you know, newsom breaks with. >> the. >> left right. and so and what does he do? he picks the. of all the people that you could. >> pick to. >> try to say, hey,

but again, why are you sitting with charlie kirk taking pot shots at the vp?n, you've been the governor of the state, the lieutenant governor, the mayor. why don't you talk about yourself, talk about your own accomplishments rather than sitting there playing political strategist? >> well, i think you answered your own question earlier. i think that he did it for purposes of staking out that territory on that issue. and let's be honest, this isn't a new tactic. we all remember sort of the word triangulation from the from the 90s. >> did you come up with. >> that one? no, i was not, i was not i did. not i did. >> not but but so, you know, it's clear what he was doing. >> he just didn't do it very artfully. but yes, caitlin the issue i agree with both of you that it was an issue that took on outsized importance. and she and i agree with you that she never responded to it. and they spent the trump campaign, spent about a quarter of its resources on that, on a series of ads on that one issue, using her and her own words. and it was very, very. >> well, and i just a

charlie kirk, founder, turning point usa: would you say no men in female sports? gov.(d-ca): well, i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. it is an issue of fairness. it's deeply unfair. geoff: so this is coming amid a debate among democrats about, how much did cultural factors play a role in their huge defeat in november and how do they address it? how does this strike, jonathan? jonathan: well, look, governor newsom is somebody whose credentials in lgbtq rights were cemented 21 years ago, when he, against the advice of every democrat in the country, issued marriage licenses to same-sex couples. so this is not a question of whether he has thrown the community under the bus after two decades. but what this shows is, and what i wished he had done, because i actually listened to the podcast and this entire section. and he kept talking about fairness, which i get, but he didn't talk more fully about, what exactly do you mean? in the conversation with charlie kirk, i mean, the way he says no men in female sports, just the way he talks about

his first guest conservative activist and pro-trump media personality, charlie kirk. this one isn't 80 20 ish and your times poll, right? that's all i can it right us to do that. and like crushing what's not fair is just like a woman's. >> entire woman. sports, a great, you know. but agree some, though, adding he feels it is important. the transgender community is not marginalized. these poor people are more likely commit suicide of anxiety, depression and the weight that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue. >> that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand still for trans activist and leader bambi saucedo with the trans latin. now coalition newsom's message on trans athletes is not acceptable. my emotions really are one of anger and one of this appointments i govern our. >> should be the one who is there to protect us particularly in this political times. and with his remarks really says that he is not standing in somebody's that it with one of the most marginalized populations. it's a sentiment echoed in this statement

charlie kirk eytan wallace reports. >> would you say no female sport white? it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. governor gavin newsom making clear where he stands on transgender athletes, specifically those who transitioned from male to female competing in girls and women's sports is an issue for so steeply the governor making those comments on the first episode of his new podcast. this is gavin newsom. his first guest, conservative activist and pro-trump media personality, charlie kirk. this one isn't 80 20 ish and your times poll, right? that's all i can it right us to do that and like russia. what's not fair is just like a woman's. >> entire woman sports, a great, you know. but agree newsom, though, adding he feels it is important. the transgender community is not marginalized. these poor people are more likely to commit suicide of anxiety, depression and the weight that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand still for trans activist and l

he did go into a hostile environment to take questions from charlie kirk, a noted conservative. but we all know that if he were running for governor of california again or mayor of san francisco, that would not have happened, because in those places, this is not an 80 over 20 issue. maybe it is, but it's reversed. the reason he's doing this is because he's trying to appeal to that national audience, where even democrats say having a large male who identifies as a female destroying my child in a sport is unacceptable. this is just a partizan play. and he's trying trying to trying to curry favor with us. >> yeah, it's true. it's like where he's from. it's 2080 and then he has to reverse it. so he's just playing that. he's just flip flopping. >> if he wasn't running this would not have happened. >> that is so true. well that was a very yeah it was an okay point. why why why lie why tell you it was a great point. you kind of were like to be honest, i kind of zoned out towards the end. coming up, hollywood flushes die. >> there are some. >> things that. >> were better together. >> li

was that his first guest, charlie kirk? charlie: yes. but he started it in order to do all of this. i hope we -- you know, we -- i hope he doesn't get a pass on it just because he decided to say the right words now. brian: you said it's pretty bold though. do you give him a shred of credit? arkansas a rah: i think it's bold to have someone like charlie kirk on there who very clearly has completely opposing ideas. that is a little refreshing. but to me, it feels a little like we trying to make that turn and make us forget what has already happened and pose yourself as somewhat more of a moderate when we know you're not? we'll see what happens. brian: i think it was an art aful dodge by him. i think he swerved right around -- lara: yeah. the weave that president trump talks about. brian: a less appealing weave. larry rah -- lara: exactly. charlie: also headlines exist, so we're going to read the headlines to you now. white house special envoy steve witkoff will be traveling to qatar this week to try to to broker a new hostage a release and ceasefire deal between israel and hamas. the

having charlie kirk on, having the conversation back to your question, leadership is able to say i waswas wrong? did he give a reason? no. >> harold: you're leading the witness let me finish my answer. real leadership says i was wrong about something and here's why. and they get the answer. what i was try to say about education is any issue, if something is working and you didn't agree with it -- >> jeanine: i would talk about education or gavin newsom? >> harold: when he talked about transgender athletes he said he would not which is switching positions for him. if are able to say after think about it after looking at the evidence after watching it practically happen i changed my mind, i think that's what people want more in politics. we have a president who is your friend and i consider a friend who has changed his mind over the last 20 years -- he believes in the borders of the country believes he's a better person and politician for it. if gavin newsom comes around an issue i agree with you know what i say? welcome to the crowd. >> jeanine: your friend dana perino has said there is

charlie kirk is a vile big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. state republicans in the meantime say they're on board with the governor's remarks, but they don't trust that he's going to turn those words and action. this just in to our newsroom. south bay commuters will have to make alternative plans next week. union representing more than 1500 vta workers handed a notice of intention to strike at tonight's vta meeting as a result bus and light rail service may not run starting monday morning and some routes may be interrupted the union and vta have been at odds over. wage increases. of course. we'll have more on that coming up at 11 o'clock. >> still ahead here, though, at 10 o'clock in an successful launch, the aftermath of space-x's latest test flight caught on cam. plus, a federal layoffs are hurting local veterans. we're hearing from a group right here in the bay group right here in the bay area that's pushing back. ah mornings! cough? congestion? i'm feeling better. all in one and done... with mucinex kickstart. aaaaaaaaaaaaa. - headache? -

governor gavin newsom spoke with charly kirk where he sounded almost normal discussing the trans athletean who was about to win the state championship in long jump in female sports that should not happen. he was the governor should step up and say no. but like what to do something like that? would you say no minute bmo sports? >> i think it is an issue in fairness i completely agree with you on that. an issue of fairness. it is an issue of fairness. i think democrats. >> greg: i have not seen a flip-flop that huge missions i went to the beach with tyrus. the best thing about that joke it is clean it. >> greg: remember it was last year newsom signed the bill into law letting bills -- kids change their pronouns behind their parents back and it has been decades since 2013 when a california law went into effect allowing boys and girls sports. where was he then a? just in that interview he tried to have it both ways much like tom. saying on the podcast... >> there is also humility and grace these people are more likely to commit suicide and anxiety and depression. the way people talk down to

makingwing common sense on men playinkingg in women's sports we chatting with charlie kirk on his sptse out and be like you know what, thenh young man who's about to win the state championship in long jump in female sports, that should not happen. yohau as thepp governor should p up and say no.d >> isa appreciate that. >> would you do something like that? >> i think it's an issue of>> fairness, i agree.yo that's easy to call out, the unfairness of that. >> judge jeanine: okay jesse, ss t is behind gavin newsom' suddenbe shift on his opinion s regarding men in women's spor? >> jesse: it has nothing to do with running for president, i'm sure of it. i went to a school with his kid it was a huge unlv fan, nwora had every day, remember running rebels? 1991runnin, undefeated. state championship game. larry johnson. and duke beats them.ke next day that kate comes with a duke hat. i itn was so blatantly obvious t kid is upfront runner and you get a little whiff of that from newsom. he's obviously trying to whiff o here but he doesn't have to be this blatant. i have to say something. >> judge j

in a new conversation with conservative influencer charlie kirk. newsom called transgender athletes playing in women's sports, quote, deeply unfair. ktvu tom vacar has more on the governor's decision to wade into this hot button topic. >> door is wide open now. >> for two decades. gavin newsom was and remains a supporter of same sex marriage and the lgbtq agenda as a businessman, supervisor, mayor and governor. a lightning rod element of that support changed thursday on the governor's own mrs. gavin newsom podcast with conservative guest charlie kirk, who asked this point blank question. >> would you say no men and female sports? >> well, i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. >> newsom also expressed sympathy for all the issues and emotional stress transgender people must go through, but does see transgender women in sports. a question of fairness to the biological females. when knowland is ceo of an insurance and risk management firm in new york and a transgender

newsom was asked by conservative activist charlie kirk about trans athletes. >> did you say no men and female sports? >> well, i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also a humility and grace that, you know, that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand. >> the comments sparked a strong response from the california legislative lgbtq caucus. >> harmful, hurtful and divisive language that just feeds into a narrative out there. that is something that is the trump and the republican party are obsessed with. >> gabriella antolovic, with the south bay's billy defrank lgbtq plus community center, said the comments were especially surprising because newsom has been an ally in the community. >> he was our big hero when he was in san francisco with the marrying the first same sex couple and very pro the lgbtq plus c

charlie kirk is a vile, big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. end quote. republicans say they agree with the governor's remarks but they don't trust that he'll turn those words into action. >> it's 10, 17, a bay area. congressman says that he was chased down at an airport over the way democrats reacted to president trump's speech on tuesday. not south bay. congressman ro khanna posted on actually said he was politely chased down by a flight attendant. chicago who told him, quote, sir, i am a democrat, but the way the party behave was embarrassing made us look heartless. i don't care who is up there. you stand for the boy with cancer. be more rational and get your act together. during the president's speech shares what happened? this 13 year-old boy had been diagnosed with a brain tumor. he was on rarely inducted into the u.s. secret service and real kind of said that a few of this is ride to the woman. he said a few of us did stand and clap and we must be the party that still believes in kindness, decency and trying to bring together. >> well, p

he talked about on his new podcast with turning point usa founder charlie kirk.ou say no men in female sports? >> it's an issue of fairness and i agree with you on that. it's easy to call oh, the unfairness in that. there is also humility and grace. that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide and have anxiety and depression and the way that people talk down to wonderful communities is the issue that i have a hard time with as well. both things i can hold in my hand. how can we address this issue with a kind of decency that i think is inherent in you but not always expressed? >> let's bring in steve hilton, host of the steve hilton show and a fox news contributor also a possible candidate for california governor next year. he would not be running against newsom who by the way is term limited. great to have you on. when you hear that back and forth, the first thing i think of is it's went essential gavin newsom. playing both sides. he will say yes, it's unfair but we just can't take them out of women sports because it's unfair and then you run the risk

charlie kirk. >> would you say no female sport white? i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also humility and grace. but, you know, these poor people are more likely commit suicide of anxiety, depression and the weight that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand. >> the california lgbtq legislative caucus responded with this statement. quote, sometimes gavin newsom goes for the profile in courage. sometimes not welcome. profoundly sicken and frustrated by these remarks in quote, senator scott wiener echoing a similar sentiment, quote, the governor has had many courageous moments over the decades supporting lgbtq people. this is not one of those moments. charlie kirk is a vile. they get and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. end quote. republicans meantime say they agree with the governor's remarks but do not trust he will turn his words into actions. time now 5.36 and

made those comments alongside his guest, which was conservative activists and the pe%sonality charlie kirk. >> would you say no female sport white? i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also humility and grace. you know, these poor people are more likely commit suicide of anxiety, depression and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand. >> the california lgbtq legislative caucus responded with this. quote, sometimes gavin newsom goes for the profile in courage. sometimes not. we woke up profoundly sickened and frustrated by these remarks. and senator scott wiener coated with a similar quote. the governor has had many great just moments over the decades supporting lgbtq people. this is not one of those moments. and then he goes on to say charlie kirk is a vile, big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. republicans meantime say they agree with the governor's remarks but the

in a new conversation with conservative influencer charlie kirk.ansgender athletes playing in women's sports, quote, deeply unfair. >> ktvu tom vacar has more on the governor's decision to wade into this hot button topic. >> doors wide open now. >> for two decades. gavin newsom was and remains a supporter of same sex marriage and the lgbtq agenda as a businessman, supervisor, mayor and governor. a lightning rod element of that support changed thursday on the governor's own. this is gavin newsom podcast with conservative guest charlie kirk, who asked this point blank question. >> would you say no men and female sports? >> well, i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. >> newsom also expressed sympathy for all the issues and emotional stress transgender people must go through, but does see transgender women in sports. a question of fairness to the biological females. when knowland is ceo of an insurance and risk management firm in new york and a transgender woman. >> he

made those remarks about transgender athletes during a conversation with conservative activist charlie kirk. the comments have left many people wondering if governor newsom is turning away from the lgbtq community. ktvu tom vacar joins us now here in the studio with more on what the governor had to say earlier today and the fallout from those comments. >> yeah, it's really quite an amazing thing when you think about it. you know, it's still 1942 days to the 2028 presidential race, but california's governor may have just thrown his hat into the ring. >> door's wide open now. >> for two decades. gavin newsom was and remains a supporter of same sex marriage and the lgbtq agenda. as a businessman, supervisor, mayor and governor, a lightning rod element of that support changed thursday on the governor's own. this is gavin newsom podcast with conservative guest charlie kirk, who asked this point blank question. >> would you say no men and female sports? >> well, i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. >> newsom als

charlie kirk is a vile, big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. that's part of the senators, quote, republicans say they agree with the governor's remarks but do not trust. he will turn his words into action. all right. tom waltz will have reaction from a prominent leader in the transgender rights community. that's coming up during kron. 4 news at 3. still ahead here at 2 o'clock this afternoon, the broadway show hamilton. >> canceling an upcoming performance and the producers say it has to do with president trump. also, will he or won't president trump thinking about dismantling the department of education? >> but could that even really happen if he wants speak with a constitutional law expert? after the break, 80,000 va employees could soon be out of work and now veterans pushing back. >> veterans are speaking out as the federal government fires them by the thousands and plans new layoffs at the department of veteran affairs. the trump administration says they're only cutting waste, fraud and abuse. but critics see these efforts as of trail. 2 p

charlie kirk is a vile big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. end quote. republicans meantime, say that they agree with governor newsom's remarks, but they don't trust that he will turn his words into action. well, meanwhile, >> president trump says he would consider extending the deadline for a ban on tiktok for a second time. if a deal still isn't reached, he stated that there is a lot of interest in the video sharing platform under the timeline set by trump's executive order. tiktok parent company was given 75 days beyond the january deadline to divest from the popular platform amid national security concerns. the president also noted on thursday that deadline is still a month away. so and extension is still not needed at the moment. >> 6.20, right now president trump pushed elon musk in cabinet secretaries to be more careful as they move to cut the federal workforce. yeah. so he directed them to use a quote, scalpel, not a hatchet. we have our washington correspondent in a civilized standing by in dc to exert land not mean a chainsaw. yeah,

the first guest on his new podcast conservative activist charlie kirk. >> please. >> what do you do,e. >> get better ideas, governor. >> newsom promises more conservative voices on the podcast and he admits republicans are, quote, flooding the zone with content, policy and messaging. sit back and play dead. but what got newsom in trouble with his base was this exchange where he says letting transgender athletes play women's sports is deeply unfair. >> you as the governor should step up and say no. >> i appreciate. >> would you do something like that? would you say no men in female sports. >> i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. >> newsom also got blasted from the right for saying one thing and doing another. as governor, he opposes parents' right to know if their child goes by a different gender identity at school. now, in this podcast, he also made fun of people who introduced themselves with pronouns and praised the trump campaign ad for exposing harris' position on trans care for inmates. >> every transgender inmate would have access. >> kamala's

charlie kirk, let's listen. >> would you say no female sport white? i think it's an issue of fairness. i completely agree with you on that. so that's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also humility and grace. but, you know, these poor people are more likely commit suicide of anxiety, depression and the weight that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my hand. >> the california lgbtq legislative caucus responded with this, quote, sometimes gavin newsom goes for the profile in courage. sometimes not. we woke up profe rally, sickened and frustrated by these remarks and scattered senator scott wiener echoed that saying, quote, the governor has had many courageous moments over the decades supporting lgbtq people. this is not one of those moments. charlie kirk is a vile big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing. end quote. republicans meantime say they agree with the governor's remarks, but as for them, they don't trust that the gove

charlie kirk is a vile big it and standing with him on this issue is profoundly disturbing.now republicans say they actually agree with the governor's remarks but they don't trust that he will actually turn those words into action. salesforce has joined a growing list of companies now rolling back their dei policies, at least public aiding them publicizing them. the francisco company removed language about diversity and inclusion being in its core values from its annual was filed yesterday. sales for says that while it's not specifically, it's not specifying representation goals. it is still committed to its core value of equality. the move follows a series of executive orders from president trump to eliminate dei programs within the federal government. other bay area tech companies like google and meta have also rolled back their dei initiatives. >> president trump has signed an executive order to create a government reserve of bitcoin along with what his administration calls a digital asset stockpile. according to the order, the u.s. government use the bitcoin already seiz

he called standing with charlie kirk disturbing.u spoke with the ceo of an insurance and risk management firm. a transgender woman who says she understands where the governor is coming from. >> i can't really indict what governor newsom is saying. i think he's echoing the opinions of a lot of people. and, you know, it'll be interesting to see how that that all plays out. it's just i again, i just think that there's legitimate points on both sides of this particular trans argument. >> like that. would you say. >> governor newsom and kirk largely focused on politics, including how republicans are gaining the support of young voters much faster than democrats? the governor also criticized what he said was former vice president kamala harris's lack of a response to the trump campaign during the election cycle. political analysts say that newsom is likely strategically positioning himself for a possible run for the white house in 2028. meanwhile, former vice president harris has reportedly said she'll make a decision by the end of the su

in the governor's newest podcast, he hosted charlie kirk. opularity rather gained popularity by debating college students on current political topics. part of that conversation touched on transgender athletes in women's sports. kirk often referred to democrats shooting down a house bill earlier this week that he says keeps men out of women's sports. the governor said he agreed there's an issue of fairness with transgender athletes competing against women, but also pointed out flaws in the conservative approach to address the issue. >> it's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also a humility and grace that you know that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with. >> yeah. >> local leaders and agencies did not like the governor's answer. the california legislative lgbtq caucus said, quote, it is profoundly sickened by his remarks, state senator scott wiener said in a statement. while the g

in the debut episode, the governor sat down with conservative activist charlie kirk . kirk raised the issue of trans athletes as a political weak spot for democrats , saying it was an issue where they were out of touch with most americans and newsom agreed. >> you asked a good faith question. how do we democrats get out of the wilderness. this one is an 8020 issue. a new york times poll. >> crushed. it turns out in 2014 before i was governor, there was a law established that established the legal principles that allow trans athletes in women's sports. but the issue of fairness is completely legit. so i completely align with you. and we have got to own that. we've got to acknowledge it. >> governor newsom did also say republicans have tried to advertise the issue of trans athletes and called for more compassion. >> there is also humility and grace that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide of anxiety and depression. and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with as well. so both things i can hold in my

in the debut episode, the governor sat down with charlie kirk who leads the conservative organization, turning point usa, which helped bolster trump support among young voters. kirk raised the issue of trans athletes as a political week spot for democrats, saying it was an issue they were out of touch with most americans and newsom agreed. >> you asked a good faith question like how do we democrats get out of the wilderness. this is an 80/20 issue. >> i agree. we're getting crushed on it. in 2014, years before i was governor, there was a law established that established the legal principles that allow trans athletes in women sports, but the issue of fairness is completely legit. so i completely align with you and we've got to own that and acknowledge it. >> that obviously shocked a lot of people. governor newsom did also say, though, republicans have tried to weaponize the issue of trans athletes and called for more compassion. >> there's also a humility and a grace that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety, depression and the way people talk down to vulne

a longtime ally of newsom, saying. >> this is this. >> is deeply disappointing. >> to be with charlie kirkand to to be saying the same things as kirk. so it's that and then the other disappointing. >> thing that. >> many are saying. here is that, uh. >> you know, newsom has. after the election, he. said democrats should be going on shows like. joe rogan's podcast and places. >> where. >> uh, you know, democrats were to meet republican voters where they are. and newsom's been very good at that. he goes on conservative media, and he and he and he and he does things there that the viewers there are very unfamiliar with, which is like recite facts. >> um. >> and so he is not so but in this case, this podcast, which he claimed he would be stress testing, in his words, you know, republican talking points and beliefs. it was there was very little stress testing at all. i mean, he. >> it was. >> very it was very. >> um. >> friendly interview of kirk and he didn't push back on him hardly. >> at all. yeah. >> and i think a lot of democrats. >> are, are. >> sort of baffled about this is not the newso

he hosted charlie kirk. he's a right wing influencer who gained popularity over the years debating college students on current political topics. part of their conversation on the episode touched on transgender athletes in women's sports. kirk often referred to democrats shooting down a house bill that he says keeps men out of women's sports. the governor said he agreed there's an issue of fairness with transgender athletes competing against women, but he also pointed out flaws in the conservative approach to address the issue. >> it's easy to call out the unfairness of that. there's also a humility and grace that you know that that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression, and the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that i have a hard time with. >> local leaders and agencies did not like the governor's comments. the california legislative lgbtq caucus said it's, quote, profoundly sickened by his remarks, state senator scott wiener said in a