charlie miller said that he has little sympathy. >> i told crisis letter back in october.hey've had close to nine months to think about it and figure out the best way to fix it. >> okay, you can uncover your eyes now. it's safe to look at the screen once again. afcus says the recall applyies to vehicles with eight-inch top screens. you have one of those. dodge vipers, durangos, chargers and challengers. it took place in a jeep cherokee not a grand cherokee. >> how scary is that! >> i know! and it raises all sorts of questions about what else can the hackers control. we have seen a couple of weeks ago that someone took control of an aircraft. >> oh my oh my. good to see you. good weekend to you. >>> a few years ago a driver and his son were pulled over for speeding in new mexico. the eventual cost, $17,000 in cash they had on them. and it was all legal. as lisa fletcher reports the citizens of new mexico said enough. >> in september of 2010 stephen skinner and his son were driving from chicago to las vegas nevada. there skinner was going to help a family member remodel her

is worth $50 >>> joining me now is the director of vehicle security research at io active and charlie miller, an engineer in platform services. >> we saw you standing by your handiwork a few moments ago. let's start at the beginning. for people who are trying to get clear on where their vulnerabilities are, if you are in possession of a machine that can talk to a machine, are you open. investigation. are you vulnerable. really anything that looks at data can be vulnerable. that applies to cars, pcs or anything else. >> so is it as simple as just thinking about security earlier in the process? >> i think security should be thought about from the beginning. it's not just code, it's the way you design things, the way you architect things, and it doesn't change overnight. it's not a problem to solve over the weekend. it takes a lot of maturity and experience. it's growing pains that every industry goes through and hopefully they get better overtime. priffeders. >> is the knowledge of how to do what you and chris did to that vehicle widely distributed or places. >> it's not widely distributed. th

he and his partner charlie miller, have hacked into a fee at chrysler jeep using a mobile phone -- fiathrysler jeep using a mobile phone. suddenly the car radio starts blaring at top of volume and a picture of the two hackers pops up on the dashboard screen. chris and charlie have taken over. >> we are killing the engine right now. the excel or will not work. >> -- accelerator won't work. reporter: he has completely lost control. >> you hack into my computer and still my photos, it's a bummer. if you can attack my car and make the brakes not work, it's a whole other ball game. reporter: bmw's german customers can already control their cars with a smartphone. i.t. specialists can use the technology to trigger a car's horn and lights and unlock its doors. but this isn't his car. he has hacked bmw's smartphone apt to highlight the security risk. >> the automobile industry is venturing into the i.t. realm. here it is hackers who for the past 20 or 30 years have been focused on infiltrating i.t. systems. car manufacturers should be aware of this when a network cars and smartphones. -- they n

he and his partner charlie miller, have hacked into a fee at chrysler jeep using a mobile phone -- fiathrysler jeep using a mobile phone. suddenly the car radio starts blaring at top of volume and a picture of the two hackers pops up on the dashboard screen. chris and charlie have taken over. >> we are killing the engine right now. the excel or will not work. >> -- accelerator won't work. reporter: he has completely lost control. >> you hack into my computer and still my photos, it's a bummer. if you can attack my car and make the brakes not work, it's a whole other ball game. reporter: bmw's german customers can already control their cars with a smartphone. i.t. specialists can use the technology to trigger a car's horn and lights and unlock its doors. but this isn't his car. he has hacked bmw's smartphone apt to highlight the security risk. >> the automobile industry is venturing into the i.t. realm. here it is hackers who for the past 20 or 30 years have been focused on infiltrating i.t. systems. car manufacturers should be aware of this when a network cars and smartphones. -- they n

charlie miller is a security researcher for twitter. >> we wanted to show cars are vulnerable connected to the internet and that makes them as vulnerable as your phone or your laptop. >> they got through the entertainment system. they have control of everything from the engine to the entertainment system and even the brakes. sending the car into the ditch. on capitol hill, senators ed marky and richard bloomenthal bloomenthal, fiat chrysler says the hacking is a crime is issuing a patch to help. >> i told them about this in october, they had nine months to figure out the best way to fix it. >> reporter: you see all modern cars have the internet in them, don't they? it's very, very shocking. fcus says that this applies to vehicles with top stream on board. wired's demonstration took place in the jeep cherokee. but i think going forward this is something we're going to hear a lot more about i suspect. >> thank you john. the u.s. government is investigating airlines for alleged price gouging following deadly amtrak derailment in may. before and after the may 12th derailment in philadelphia

>> well, this was all actually the work of charlie charlie miller and chris valasek, the two researchersave been trying to do this for years to gain access to a wireless access remote vehicle. this is the first time they've done that and they named the automaker, detailed some of how they they did it and they'll talk about it at a conference, and show how it is done so researchers can test it out. all of it is meant to send a message to pressure the car industry to solve these problems, to take security vulnerability seriously. >> sreenivasan: how easy or difficult is it? should we be concerned there's 400,000 cars with this software inside it? >> everybody who has this one computer u connect in their dashboard needs to download the patch quietly released last week. gut it from their computer, put it on a usb drive and protect themselves. but it's a question whether someone could create a new hacking technique. it's possible but not easy. both are brilliant hackers. one a former n.s.a. analyst. i wouldn't expect a kid in a basement to come up with a new techtechnique but with a target ou

. >> charlie miller is a security researcher with twitter, working for years finding vulnerabilitiesthe computer networks and joins us from st. louis. this is a thing. it's good to have you with us. the description of what you did would be hilarious if it weren't so serious. you took over the airconditioning, put your picture on the digital display. what was your objective in doing this? >> a couple of things we wanted to show that cars were vulnerable. and people - when i grew up. cars didn't have computers. they do, it's expected to the internet. we wanted to draw attention to that. we wanted to make sure that auto manufacturers are doing their best to make cars secure. i don't want to drive down the highway and worry about something happening to me. >> that is the frightening thing. you are able to take control of the car without being near it. >> that's right. >> how many cars could be vulnerable. >> the number of cars that this effects is - we estimate around 300-400. this is what we figure out. could we have chosen any vulnerable car? >> we know for sure that the crisis - that

this video grabbed the attention of the automotive world and congress, cyber security experts charlie miller and chris show, they can remotely hack this jeep driven by a reporter from wired, who produced this video and posted it on their website tuesday. >> able to access the jeep cherokee over its 3g connection. >> the pair who work asset call hackers were miles away using the internet to get inside the jeep's system controlling the radio and nav system. >> oh, my god. there is a picture of charlie and chris in track suits, up here on the dashboard. >> wired video shows the hackers disabling the genes black leaving to slide in a ditch. it is made by chrysler, estimate 471,000 of the company's vehicles could be vulnerable through the automakers you connect systems. how concerned are you that haak ers may go after our cars? >> unfortunately i think we have to anticipate that they will. >> new legislation require cyber security, privacy protection, be applied to cars. >> we have to begin to build the protections in now, give the warnings now to american families. >> we have to turn the fan on

. >> reporter: charlie miller and chris valasek are ethical hackers who spent three years looking for vulnerabilities. >> if you steal my computer, that's a bummer. but if you can attack my car and make the brakes not work, that's a whole other ballgame. that's really scary. >> reporter: the pair hacked jeep manufacturer fiat chrysler's u- connect computer system found in an estimated 471,000 cars and trucks. they were even able to cut off the brakes, sending the jeep sliding into a ditch. >> hold on. he's not getting out of that. >> reporter: the automaker has released a software update to offer improved electronic security. how concerned are you that hackers may go after our cars? >> unfortunately, i think we have to anticipate that they will. >> reporter: massachusetts senator ed markey just introduced legislation requiring a vehicle cyber security and privacy protection. >> we should put the safety measures in place before we have catastrophic vehicle accidents that force us to put the safety measures in place. >> reporter: the hackers got in through what's known as the head unit,

charlie miller thank you so much for joining us.watched the video it seemed like a pretty painful prank you were playing on your friend there and you braked the car so he could no longer travel. >> it was fun. thanks. >> you never know, it could make you a better driver. >> it's impossible. >> it's impossible to make her a better driver. coming up the ancient practice this modern day warrior said save his life. now he's working to save the lives of others. >> i know with 100% certainty i'm exactly where i'm suppose to be doing exactly what i'm suppose to be doing. it took getting blown up in iraq to do that. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. i brought in some protein to get us moving. i'm new ensure active high protein. i help you recharge with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vit

charlie miller, also one of the hackers behind this he said to me that chrysler is very good and very responsive once they showed them this data. once they showed them that these cars could be hacked. but he said that these companies need to invest in better security especially as cars are more and more connected. and i think he said it best on twitter. he tweeted, "i wonder what's cheaper, designing secure cars or doing recalls." i can guarantee you, a lot of different automobile companies are looking at this as a telltale warning sign. back to you. >> that's kind of scary. you are watching "cnn newsroom." >>> two teachers are being credited with saving lives after a gunman opened fire in a u.s. theater. >> keep others alive. how can we help others get to safety? that's how can we help our kids get to safety in the classroom? that's what these ladies were trained to do and they did it in just a blink of an eye. >> amazing. teachers how they escaped death while helping others as this broadcast continues worldwide on cnn international and cnn usa. >>> welcome back to our viewers here i

reporter: this video grabbed at tension of the automotive world and congress, cyber security experts charlie miller and chris veilsack showed they can hack this jeep driven by a recorder from wires who produced this video and posted it on their web site tuesday. >> you were able to access the jeep cherokee over its 3g connection. >> reporter: pair, who worked asset california hackers were miles away using the internet to get inside the jeep's info system and controlling radio and nav system. >> picture of charlie and chris, in the track that appeared on the dashboard. >> reporter: video shows hackers disabling jeep's brakes leading to it slide in the ditch. jeep is had made by chrysler and hackers estimate 471,000 of the company's vehicles could be vulnerable through auto makers you connect system. how concerned are you that hackers may go after our cars. >> unfortunately i think we have to anticipate that they will. >> reporter: massachusetts senator ed marky is requiring cyber security and privacy protection be applied to cars. >> we have to begin to build the protections in now give the warnings

charlie miller is one of the hackers who took control of this jeep cherokee. >> once you are in you canr functions of the car. >> right. as i mentioned, inside your car there is like 30 computers and they all talk to each other. once you are on one of those you can start to send messages to other computers and tell them to do things. >> like control the brakes and send the car down a ditch. >> hold on tight. hold on. >> reporter: the experiment was only tested on a jeep but the hacker says it could impact hundreds of thousands of other fiat chrysler vehicles with the same system. in a statement, the automotive giant said the security and confidence of our customers is important and it issued a software update that customers can download or take to their dealer. miller says other carmakers could be hacked exposing drivers to a new danger on the road. >> one steals your bank account information, that's a bummer but no one is hurt. here if a hacker would get in your car they can crash. you an your children could be hurt. it is really important that we deal with this issue now instead of wa

this video grabbed the attention of the automotive world and congress, cyber security experts charlie millerhris valisec shows they can remotely -- posted it on their website tuesday. >> we were able to access the jeep cherokee over its 3g connection. >> reporter: the pair, who work as ethical hackers, were miles away using the internet to get inside the jeep's system controlling the radio and nav system. >> oh, my god. that was a fixture of charlie and chris in track suits that just appeared on the dashboard. >> reporter: the wired video shows the hackers disabling the jeep's brakes leaving it to slide into a ditch. jeep is made by fiat, chrysler and the hackers estimate some 471,000 of the company's vehicles could be vulnerable through the automaker's u connect systems. >> how concerned are you that hackers may go after our cars? >> unfortunately i think we have to anticipate they will. >> reporter: massachusetts senator ed markey is introducing new legislation to require cyber security and privacy protection be applied to cars. >> we have to again to -- begin to feel the protections now,

. >> charlie miller is oneol of the jeep.in you can access other functions of the car? >> right. as i mentioned, inside your car there's 30 computers. they talk to each other. once you are on one of those computers, you can send messages to the other computers and tell them to do things. >> reporter: do things like control the brakes and send the car down a ditch. >> hold on tight. hold on. >> reporter: the experiment was tested on a jeep. but the hackers say it could impact hundreds of thousands of other vehicles with the same system. in a statement the automotive giant says the security and confidence of our cusstomers is important. it issued a software update. other carmakers have similar systems that could be hacked exposing drivers to a new danger on the road. >> someone steals your bank account, that's a bummer. no one is hurt. here if a hacker would get into your car, they could crash it. you and your children could get hurt. it's important we deal with this issue now instead of waiting until this is a reality that the

>> well, as i said i didn't know what these two hackers, charlie miller and chris valosic were goingive on to the highway. i trusted that it wouldn't be too dangerous. in retrospect, they didn't know, for instance, that there wouldn't be a shoulder on the highway. so i think all of us would have chosen to do this on a closed course if we'd known how dangerous it might have turned out to be. nobody got hurt. what it does show is just how risky this vulnerability is. this is something chrysler really needs to fix or people will have the same experience as i did, which was not pleasant. >> scary. you know we reached out to chrysler's parent company about the story, and they said quote, under no circumstances does fca condone or believe it's appropriate to disclose how-to information that would potentially encourage or help enable hackers to gain unauthorized and unlawful access to vehicle systems. similar to a smartphone or tablet vehicle software can require updates for improved security. what's your response to that? >> i think what they're saying when they say we don't want anybody t

charlie miller and myself to investigate, examine and then remotely compromise the vehicle so this isn'tekend or at night when you're bored. >> okay. so you did your homework but bottom line you did pull it off and what you did from my layman's understanding is you essentially hacked into the internet into the car which allowed you to go deeper into the radio and windshield wipers et cetera and there's cars on the road equipped with this technology that would increase the vulnerability. >> yeah. cars are becoming more connected and more technologically advanced and that's inevitable and i like it. we want technology and convenience in our vehicles. we just wanted to show that when adding this technology you have to think about security as well because if you have someone, you know with our skill sets and our determination, i think they can go about you know compromising these things and potentially physically controlling them. >> so the driver can't override the hack? >> no. yeah. there's certain things that the driver can override and there's certain things that the driver can't overrid

charlie miller at the mercy of chris in pittsburgh. >> i'm not driving 0 miles an hour. >> reporter:t to scare people but to warn what could happen as cars get more connected via wi-fi and cell. >> people want them in the car. the manufacturers will put them there. >> we have no idea how good cars are as far as security. >> reporter: they have been sharing research with chrysler which released a patch last week saying in a statement it regularly tests information systems to get rid of vulnerabilities. they point out it takes time and expertise to hack a car. >> it's so hard. at the same time i don't think cars should be vulnerable. >> reporter: congress is looking at a bill requiring connected cars include protection to stop a hack in its tracks. so drivers watching risks on the road can avoid potential danger from the dash. for "today," hallie jackson, nbc news, los angeles. >> al said as soon as they come out with a patch or a fix for that, then the hackers try to break into it and figure that out. >> that's the price of technology which we love but it's scary. let's get a check of

charlie: that opens the question. if they do that, what might russia do? >> alex miller was in athens talking about the financing of pipeline, and clearly -- russia is not exactly flush with cash at the moment but you can imagine greece right now, this government is scraping every barrel. the reports of sequestering money from the local authorities, they are looking for credit from other foreign countries. everything to try and stave off the hard default. i think just to go back to russia, there is some potential for them to get involved. they were very involved in the cyprus economy. they have money in the cyprus economy. you can imagine. their involvement is nowhere near the scale of the involvement of the western europeans. joe: there was a lot of talk when cyprus had its problems will russia save them? cyprus is so small and russia has so many assets that they could have done it. there is no way that russia is going to come in with any significant needle moving amount of money. the geopolitical aspect is one angle that makes it important for european leaders not to l

charlie. you know, it's pretty funny because donald trump i guess maybe his lawyer sent the letter to mac millerinds out that this song has 100 million hits on youtube, he's, like, yeah, it's about me, baby, and being rich. >> yeah. donald trump is one that will never pass up free publicity, so he loves the song all of a sudden. but in reality i think you and i agree. rap music can be one way that republicans where or conservatives or people who believe in capitalism to explain that lower taxes and individual is a way tart prosperity, and that's what young people want. you know, if we boil it down, whether it be mac miller or little wayne, that's what these rappers, and they're rallying the idea of better life and this luxury lifestyle. >> right. >> and i think it's something that republicans and conservatives are totally missing out on. >> you know, michael, i talked to a lot of young kids, this year i had the honor of going to three high schools right before graduation. they want it. they really do want it. if someone in authority of power, particularly a president said it's okay to be rich, i

charlie. >> we're covering guacamole and peas. >> hard news, my friend. >> hey, good morning nick and andrea. we'll talk with john miller about terror warnings and increased security for the fourth of july celebrations, plus, dr. holly phillips on the newest diet drug. also, the cutting edge technology. and, incredible story of two sisters raised a world apart. who found each ore and are now shaking up the wine industry. all of that and more. the news is back in the morning, see you at 7:00. >> and we know kandahar lee will continue tracking guacamole. >> are you going to weigh in, charlie? will you try the peas? >> no. >> i will not put peas in guacamole. i can't imagine that. >> all right, appreciate it. allyson rae back with us, just checked the calendar. it says thursday, but let's be real. >> it's not? >> this is friday workweek for a lot of people. so, let's start talking about the weekend. >> what was your question? >> grilling going to be safe throughout the weekend? >> today and tomorrow is going to be wet out there. friday, for the fourth of july, i think it's going to be dryer, not ruling out chances for rain

miller, cbs news, new york. >> rose: a story so fitting for a great hymn. and that is the "cbs evening news" for tonight. for scott pelley, i'm charlie rose in new york.g tomorrow on "cbs this morning." good night. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> good evening. i'm lesli foster. >> and i'm derek mcginty. has metro done enough to keep its passengers safe on the trains? >> that was the question on lawmakers' minds just a short time ago as they questioned transit executives in a followup hearing, one of several congress has held about that smoke incident outside l'enfant plaza in january that left one person dead and more than 80 others injured. >> the house oversight committee just wrapped up a hearing a few minutes ago. members expected to hear from the driver of the train that was stuck in that smoke filled tunnel, but according to metro that driver curly james declined to testify, but despite that the questions and the statements came quickly and they got right to the heart of things. >> i think the

miller cbs news, new york. >> rose: a story so fitting for a great hymn. and that is the "cbs evening"c news" for tonight. for scott pelley, i'm charlie rose in new york.ow on "cbs this morning." good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >>> only on 5 keeping trains full of coal out of oakland, protesters are worried about their health and what it could do to bay area land. >> new at 6:00 stealing from a blind pastor, his church ransacked, what the thieves took and why it's especially valuable to the congregation right now. >> and the bay area jolted by an earthquake. new at 6:00 what you can do in your home right now to help scientists predict the next one. good evening. i'm veronica de la cruz. >> i'm ken bastida. >>> a crowd is protesting in oakland this evening protesting a plan to bring millions of tons of coal into the bay area. christin ayers has been on top of this story at every turn and you have the latest twist tonight. >> reporter: yeah. tonight a handful of those protesters still hanging out here at city hall ahead of tonight's city council meeting. the bottom line here is that u.s. coa

charlie rosies here with the preview. good morning. >> good morning. just ahead we will talk to the nypd a's john millerbout terror warnings and increased security for fourth of july celebrations. >>> plus doctor holy phillips on the new diet drug and can use it. and this the cutting edge technology where computers could replace co pilots in planes. incredible story of two sisters raised a world apart who found each other and now shaking up the wine industry. all that and more, the news is back in the morning and we will see new about ten minutes. >> you got it, see you then. >> thanks, charlie. >>> man known as britain's oscar shindler has passed away. >> nicholas winton was 106 years old. winton is credited with saving the lives of more than 600 children during the holocaust. ever humble he kept his work secret for half century. in 2003 queen elizabeth knighted win ton for his services to humanity. >>> our time 6:50. breaking news tops today's headlines. authorities say at least one train car carrying a flammable toxic gas has derailed and caught fire in easton tennessee and forced evacuation within a