we want to bring in quittin feel he is from the think tank chatham house he is currently in south wales at the moment when it's good to have you back on the show with so many senior members of the cabinet in quarantine how effective can the running of government be right now at such a crucial time. well it's obviously a problem i don't think it's a fundamental problem johnson insists that even though he's isolated he's still in charge dominic cummings his chief advisor he's the latest to go down he's clearly at home but he's somehow in contact and we've seen today we've had the foreign secretary dominic he's the deputy prime minister he's been out there sort of taking . the wood so there is a big team there but nonetheless it's embarrassing that so many people at the heart of this operation have actually become infected because it rather suggests that they've not been doing practicing what they preached that's to say they've in fact in each other the government's chief scientific adviser says the u.k. is what he described as tracking alongside france as far as these infections are conce

i don't do is an associate fellow in a global health program at chatham house she says the focus for african nations is on containment. south africa and probably uganda has the most doctors per population and that's just one doctor or a 1000 people and that's a lot that is already overwhelming just for the health care workforce and then when you think of intensive care units we think of hospital beds we also have a critical shortage across the continent as well so really the efforts right now need to be focused on insane meant really identifying those important cases looking at the context of those cases and making sure that they're all quien teenagers you know some warning quarantine or if there is an isolation you know i think having them as soon as possible and really trying to contain this as much as possible well french citizens are are just going to drastic changes in their lives due to the pandemic the doctor about it takes a look at how the restrictions are affecting them. instantly recognizable from the sky a closer look reveals that paris is a changed city 3 calls are scarc

or ondo is an associate fellow at the global health program at chatham house in london she says the focus for the african countries is on containing. south africa and probably canada has and most doctors her population and that's just one doctor or a 1000 people and that's a lot that is already overwhelmed just by the health care workforce and then when you think of intensive care units needing a hospital beds we also have a critical shortage across the continent as well so really the efforts right now need to be focused on really identifying the important cases looking at the context of those people making sure that they're all quine 1000 years you also warning quarantine or if there is an isolation you know i think. as soon as possible and really trying to contain this as much as possible well confirmed infections in the u.s. of now risen above 19000 and that's led to some unprecedented restrictions mike hanna has that story from washington. the trumpet ministration continues to wreck a top preventative measures in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic the latest action aimed at cutting

coming up, a conversation with leslie vinjamuri from chatham house about fiscal stimulus and what it for the trump administration. this is bloomberg. ♪ taylor: i am taylor riggs in new york with francine lacqua in london. the head of the u.s. senate cleared the second page or bill responding to the pandemic. he said the body would stay in session to work on the $1.3 trillion plan. learning us now is leslie vinjamuri. are you surprised by the amount and rate at which congress is able to get this done for the beginning of the stimulus package? leslie: i think right now, there is very little surprise left amongst those of us watching because the global pandemic is so extraordinary so extraordinary measures are what we would expect, even with the government that has been so partisan and divided, and not the government we would expect to be talking about cash -- cash payments to the tune of $5 billion. it is all a little surprising but given the global context it seems almost inevitable. taylor: as you look at the details of the stimulus package, what is most effective? bailout of airline

i'm joined by amy pope from international think tank chatham house and former adviser under presidentma. good morning. >> good morning. >> what does joe biden's route in south carolina signify to you? >> look, he needed to win the primary for a number of reasons. right. his showing in the three states before were disappointing to the campaign. and he needed to show people that he was still in the race. that he could still command a significant majority. that he had the support of democrats and most importantly african-american democrats who have been a crucial vote where the other candidates have really struggled to win the support. >> right. so, biden came in number one but as we just heard, bernie sanders a little disappointed that he was that far back. did that surprise you? >> not really. this demonstrates when you're looking at particular communities within the democratic party, there are some where bernie just has not performed that well and where biden has sort of the traditional strength and traditional relationships and he really needs to bank on those if he's going to be suc

tom: leslie vinjamuri of chatham house is considering's super tuesday.o ask you interesting global relationship of treasury, of a chance with the exchequer, secretary mnuchin to proceeding central-bank independence. is that was these going on today? everybody isnk concerned and people have been concerned for a little while. but remember, at the moment we are in a very uncertain environment, not only with super tuesday, which is important for this election, but americans are beginning to be very uncertainty -- very uncertain and scared about coronavirus, where it is going. so it is not surprising that they are looking to the government and to the markets and trying to understand what the economic impact will be at a time of deep uncertainty. both, jeremynk you stretch and lay-ins -- jeremy stretch and leslie vinjamuri. through bloomberg reporting, a replacing bill winters. it is unbelievable. in the last two to three weeks we have had ousting's and replacements at the top banks in the world. as the coronavirus disrupts global travel, we will speak to the

britain it was the foreign office research department in the foreign office which came out of chatham house's foreign research and press service at oxford. the british, i have looked at many of these documents with regard to postwar planning for austria and they are very complete and i think in the british case you can see that churchill took more of the suggestions of his planners than in the american case. in the united states, the council on foreign relations in new york again postwar planning even before the country was in the war. and when the u.s. finally joined the war in 1941, the planning effort from the council on foreign relations was brought into the state department. many of the council experts were part of it. much of the planning was done in 1942, 1943. very often the suggestions made by the experts were not picked up by roosevelt and carried out. in other words there were huge planning efforts going on in the anglo american world but also france once it had a government again and also in the soviet union there was planning going on. so think about the planning during world war

pleased to have dr goes it on there with us now an associate fellow in the global health program at chatham house on skype from dubai today hello dr nice to have you with us. general do you agree with the head of the w.h.o. there saying that africa needs to wake up about coronavirus i would say that from my perspective africa has already well enough we've seen in the past week that there has been a lot of different interventions and wanted to slow down the import of cases in many african countries countries are closing their their land borders they're stepping in lives from infected countries that are already have community transmission and have also really been increasing the communications around distantly and as well as hand washing as well ok i wonder if actually passed lessons have been learnt in boulder was obviously such a huge issue for parts of africa what is it now 56 years ago 7 years ago and maybe that that was. a good place to start in primal urge. i think he really did have a legacy as far as prepared news for african countries so one we have the evil infrastructure that we can stil

tom: amy pope with chatham house, thank you for joining us.n golub with credit suisse will continue to look at the markets, futures down 54. e.m. with mass currency depreciation. us in the 8:00 hour. ♪ francine: this is bloomberg "surveillance," breaking news out of italy after we had the finance minister and prime minister together updating everyone. this comes from the economic 25e, italy will spend billion euros in measures against the coronavirus. we do not know the details. it will be interesting whether they suspend mortgage payments for a while or run through more the banks. it is interesting to see all the leaders together with central banks trying to prepare some response to the economic adversity because of the virus. tom: it really goes to live hard -- lagarde tomorrow. there is all of this jockeying for the ecb. francine: we had a cut from the fed, a comprehensive package from the ecb -- bank of england is targeting businesses and individuals that would be hit by the virus, and that is also treasuries. we have not heard from christ

we want to go now to westminster, where anna edwards is speaking with jim o'neill, chatham house chairmanmer treasury of the u.k. -- former secretary of the u.k. treasury. anna: we were waiting for this big fiscal news, and then we got this coordinated stimulus. using discounts is a big deal? the whole package? jim: i think the second part, which is less glamorous in the details about making the couple of rules for the banks a little bit less tough and encouraging them by supporting them helps more businesses, perhaps even individuals, with more and more people challenged by this coronavirus, i think all of that is really important. cutting rates is a complete waste of time. anna: you think so? it reduces the borrowing cost at the margins, doesn't it? jim: in 2008, it was smart. but for many of the past two years, each time the banks cut --es, it was more importantly, i think the past decade came to an end, all this issue about actual and , we ared inequality constantly reacting to financial conditions, which means propping up more than equity prices. unless the transmission mechanism get