the mainstream media begin to pay the movement any attention famous faces like michael moore and chris hedges also stopped by to pledge their support and now activists and cities across the u.s. are also joining in starting small movements where they are how much longer do you think is going to continue and what's the view like from the place of the protest earlier i caught up with fancy either host of the majority report out majority f.n. and co-host of ring of fire and he was there today in the crowded park but first i asked him to tell us what the scene was like how many people and was allude is like after all the arrest that happened this weekend. yeah it's pretty amazing actually there were hundreds of hundreds of people there who were part of approaches and hundreds more who were just checking out the protest in the mood is actually really great people are very excited when i was down there susan sarandon stopped by last night is you know well you know i'm michael moore was was in the park and there's a real sense that they're actually getting better at what they're doing they're they'r

i don't know how. >> chris hedges. >> bill: they have a new editor over there. i don't know how they live with this. i'm thinking about the fox news channel. if you came on the show and you said, you know, bill, america is a terrorist nation. you know, we're as bad as al qaeda. >> right. >> bill: we're shameful. we're disgusting. all of this. we wouldn't use you here. it's not that you don't have the right to say it it's just that we have the right to bring to our viewers some honesty. honesty, that's the key word. honesty. but i guess they don't feel the same way. >> well, i think it's important to try to understand how this comes about. these pieces by krugman and hedges may have been published in the last 24 hours or so, but they were written in the 1960's because that's when this reflective liberal position kicked in that if something goes wrong it's america's fault and america is a shameful country as a result. before that, forever before that, liberals as well as conservatives thought america was a great country. but starting in the 1960's with vietnam, wh

today instead we track deep from that very dark a lick sort of nationalism journalist an offer chris hedges says america's terror unleashed throughout the middle east has opened a pandora's box of evil estimates are over a million iraqi dead since the invasion. you know hundreds and hundreds of civilians killed in pakistan thousands killed in afghanistan not to mention millions of people displaced in a refugee camp some in the terror that we have unleashed will not go on paid it is and it will strike us eventually however in a post nine eleven america citizens have been forced to compromise their. freedom in the name of security the past decade has paved the way for new state practices such as warrantless wiretapping intrusive airport screening and greater authority for law enforcement what some call a police state in the making and as this national security state grows and as it becomes easier for the government to. ignite us in all aspects of our lives i think of americans are. worried about is the issue. is larger than just the specific isolated or there is even a danger that is all arou