for more, chris painter, the cybersecurity coordinator for the u.s.ent and a fellow at stanford center of international security and cooperation. the lawyer for this woman says there is no evidence she was spying but when someone has that much advanced equipment on them, what do you think? chris: obviously, we have to see where this goes. we want to see were the evidence leads. why was she there with a bag full of cell phones and usb drives? the other thing i saw was from the affidavit. the secret service agents said they not only saw malware, malicious computer code, but when you plug it into his laptop -- why he did that, god only knows -- it downloaded code on his laptop. i doubt she was there to go swimming. i doubt she was there to install 5g may be at mar-a-lago. i think she was clearly there for some surreptitious purposes. emily: she says she was there to use the pool, but then authorities checked her statement and whatever she said she was therefore did not exist. in theory, how vulnerable is mar-a-lago? chris: you expect them to bring a swim

i am joined by christopher painter and frank is the former assistant director for the county intelligence at the fbi. chrisking ahead now. what stops the russians from doing what they did? >> absolutely nothing. we are doing good things, but that report is systematic and significant and sweeping effor s s by the russians and they are doing it again. they are out there. that report is not raft. that's what we are living now and in 2020 and we haven't done enough to prevent it and imposed real cost on putin to change behavior. >> frank, what do you make of this? you must think of this in bed at night. we got a report that they were messing with a florida county election system and not changing results. we need another florida disaster like 2000 to kill all hope for a clean election. >> if there is one inarguable section that even the attorney general could not avoid it's that russia absolutely interfered with our election. people need to understand, chris. this is a nonpartisan issue. it doesn't matter what party you are a part of. you need to understand that we have enemies in this world and russia wants ve

painter who gives candy to michelle obama. so that's how d.c. works. but that's not how it should work, based on what norm was saying because there has to be a penalty, chrisre has to be some sort of social punishment so that there is good behavior moving forward. and some people left in the trump administration might say you know what? i'm not going to compromise my ethics and my values. i might do what sally yates did, or i'll do with chuck rosenburg did and i'll resist and fail up with dignity. >> thanks for joining us. that is "all in" for this evening. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. >>> tonight the attorney general of the united states echoes a talking point from the president and those around him, telling congress spying did occur on the trump campaign. it's a loaded word and a weighty charge, and democrats exploded in response. >>> on the mueller front, william barr said he hopes to put the report out next week, while the president describes it as an attempted coup that he defeated. >>> and the "wall street journal" reports trump insiders keith schiller and hope hicks have both spoken to the feds about hush-money payments. the perso

painter who gives candy to michelle obama. so that's how d.c. works. but that's not how it should work, based on what norm was saying because there has to be a penalty, chrisrt of social punishment so that there is good behavior moving forward. and some people left in the trump administration might say you know what? i'm not going to compromise my ethics and my values. i might do what sally yates did, or i'll do with chuck rosenburg did and i'll resist and fail up with dignity. >> thanks for joining us. that is "all in" for this evening. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> good evening. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. a big show tonight. there is a lot going on. this is one of those nights when the news has -- it's definitely simmering in a roiling way, can we say that? it hasn't quite reached its full boiling point. but give it a minute. you can tell the kettle is about to sing. tonight, for example we have brand-new news from the fight in congress to get the president's tax returns. this deadline was supposed to be midnight tonight. that's when house ways and means chairman richard neal told the irs that he