chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record.e at the southbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. hello there, those of you who were hoping for a white christmas might be disappointed. a rather grey one for many. lots of cloud and breezy across england and wales for christmas eve. but some of these rain has been heavy, but it is easing in northern south. we have had gales on exposed coast. tonight rain into northern ireland, southern parts of scotland and into the lake district. to the south of that it is cloudy, dreary, but mild. 10 to 12 degrees. as we move out of christmas eve into christmas dashs things will change with the rain fall and this front will pep up through northern ireland and into the irish sea. ahead of it breezy with some rain. that rain will gather in intensity through christmas day. by the middle of afternoon some heavy rain pushing into south—west england and wales. a drizzly old afternoon. 10 to 12 degrees. some rain across the lake district and clearing out of northern ireland.

chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record. here at the southbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. hello. not quite in sync with the big day itself but our wether for boxing day the weather will feel more christmassy and, in the next few days, some of us will see some snow. the reason why, colder air is moving back in across the uk. 13 degrees celsius the top temperature for christmas day. most of us in single figures fora few days to come. an indication ofjust how cold it's getting will be the threat of ice on untreated surfaces as boxing day begins. more especially in scotland, parts of the pennines too. and we're getting some sleet and snow to begin the day in the southern uplands, northern pennines, to the relatively low levels in places, for a wintry start to boxing day, so be aware of that. there will be more wintry showers ciming into northern scotland. a few showers for northern ireland. a massive mixture of rain, sleet and snow for some across the pennines, northern england. and a few showe

chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record.outhbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. the weather has been far more cheerful today compared to the last few days at least across most of the uk. the weather is turning again across the south of the country. we are infor across the south of the country. we are in for rain, sleet and the possibility of snow as well, but not too much snow. don't get too excited. this is the weather front thatis excited. this is the weather front that is moving in. a wet end to the day across many southern areas of the uk. and, yes, snowfalling across the uk. and, yes, snowfalling across the welsh hills and the peak district possibly second—half of the night around the cotswolds and in towards the early hours of wednesday morning we could get wintry weather across eastern and south eastern parts of the country. we are talking about the downs and the chilterns, those sort of areas. further north clearer and colder. some areas as low as minus eight degrees celsius outside of

chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record.ns here at the southbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. hello. very mild out there and for the last couple of weeks or so, we have been forecasting a very mild christmas and indeed, the temperatures are well above the average for the time of year right across the country right now and it will remain like it throughout the big day itself. so staying very mild across the uk. the winds are streaming in from the south—west, carrying rain bearing clouds as well, so for some of, additionally, it's very soggy. but out towards the north—west of the atlantic here, the winds are changing direction and they are coming in from the arctic so there is a little bit of cold air tucking in behind this mild plume of air and that is a sign that as we head towards boxing day and the days after, things are going to turn that little bit colder. but for christmas day itself, it's very mild across england and wales. there is some rain on the way and temperatures will be double f

chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record. here at the southbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. hello there. some of us have already seen snow already this festive season. for a few more, we're starting wednesday on a wintry note. we have an area of low pressure. this swirl of cloud drifting northwards in the cold air. while the system is delivering rain, mixed in with that, sleet and snow drifting across southern and south—eastern areas to start the day. further north and west, especially, northern england, northern ireland, scotland, potential for icy stretches with clear skies through the night. through the day, scotland, northern ireland, western areas of england and wales, that will have the best of the sunshine. towards the south and east, struggling to improve through the day. skies improving for the likes of oxfordshire and berkshire. but the london area will stay pretty cloudy. across kent, up into east anglia, here, outbreaks of rain sleet and snow mixed in right through the afternoon,

chris steele—perkins on the ambiguity of photography as a historical record.ns here at the southbank centre. see the rest of the series at bbc.com/throughthelens. hello, so what you like about dreaming ofa hello, so what you like about dreaming of a white christmas, but at least is mild and quiet weather is not affecting anyone‘s travel, but things could change after christmas day as it turns cold and there's risk of some snow. this is there's risk of some snow. this is the mild airwe there's risk of some snow. this is the mild air we have, through christmas eve into christmas day, but later on christmas day, especially into boxing day, the colder air starting to move south across the uk, and boxing day and a few days after in the cold air where there is the risk of snow. this is there is the risk of snow. this is the christmas eve is the mild weather, around this area of high pressure, the flow of air coming from the atlantic, the most flow, plenty of cloud, and the weather front, even into christmas day, hanging around the same part of the uk. several hours

chris steele perkins. and the ambiguity of photography as a historical record.e southbank centre, see the rest of the series at our website. hi, there. it has been cloudy for the past few days, very mild as well. more of the same to come over the next few days in the run—up to the big day itself. staying mild, turning a bit windier, and a bit of rain across the north—west the uk. for the time being we've got a lot of cloud and high pressure to the south of the uk. these westerly winds bringing cloud off the atlantic. the weather front approaching scotland, bringing outbreaks of rain and wet weather to start the day across the northern isles. for many of us it's a dry, a cloudy and mild start. misty and murky around western coasts and hills, but probably not as murky as it has been over the past few days on account of the stronger winds. the winds pick up on saturday in the northern half of the uk and they will encourage a few breaks in the cloud every now and then. not many breaks for most of england and wales. it stays pretty dull and cloudy for most of the day

chris steele—perkins is probably best known for his documentary pictures of life in britain. which captured the nation under the conservative prime minister margaret thatcher, pointing his camera at every section of society. photography is about history, demarcating a period and a time. the wolverhampton set of pictures was actually done for the sunday times magazine, and the whole idea was to go sort of back to wolverhampton, ten years after enoch powell had given his famous, as it was yet to be known, "rivers of blood" speech, and go and look at the asian and afro—caribbean community up in wolverhampton and see whether they were actually drinking each other‘s blood or not. there was a church club which seemed seemed to cater quite well for local kids, they could go down there and play their own music, hang out, there was a kind of rhythm to the whole thing, and you kind of tuned into that, and that's what you're after. the exact sort of compositional elements are more important in the overall composition, rather than the small details. the idea was about trying to photograp

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where does this ohr's guy's job description enable him to go meet with that chris steele guy during a campaign? talk about getting into an election. i think there are laws against that. trish: what do you think needs to happen now. when you say purge the fbi figure out where the biases are and what people did with these biases? >> i think for the people that did things like we're talking about here that go far beyond personal political beliefs, attorney general sessions and our congressional oversight committees need to subpoena some people, get them up there and run all this stuff to ground. don't like, don't let mccabe or rosenstein stonewall them. trish: you know, critic, got to get both sides in here, critics would say this is all being orchestrated by the trump administration. somehow they're trying to create this shiny object over here which is the big, bad, fbi, deep state, et cetera to detract what is really going on with the mueller investigation. how do you respond to those criticisms, congressman? >> first can you imagine a republican justice department and fbi working with

mara: the fbi did interview chris steele, the author of the dossier. howie: i'll ask you about "the washington post" story the other day quoting three sources saying the president's legal team plans to target mike flynn as a liar if he makes accusations against president trump. does this smell like a leak from the trump side? cathy: it's all about spin. we are not sure who is going to win with the spin game, the spin cycle. mara: do you think the "post" was used to concerned a message to flynn that this could get nasty if you start pointing financialers? cathy: this spinning and the media has to decide who is right and who is wrong. mollie: the story waited to the end to mention this is the most of basic legal strategy you would use. howie: you impeach their credibility if they are lying. let me ask you, molly. we do this every year. the media on the right and left have two different takes to say the least about 2017 for trump. paul krugman wrote donald trump has been every bit as horrible as expected. and he said the game is rigged because trump won t

democrats or the dossier that hillary clinton and the democratic national committee paid for by chris steele from a british spy. that is not the center of this investigation. the reason it is is because rob rosen stein, deputy attorney general in the trump justice department, decided that was the best way forward and appointed someone in bob mueller who is appointed by george w. bush. it is important to separate from the facts that we know about this investigation. he is doing it because in his mind it is all one big thing. if you pull it apart factually, it's just not. >> he also goes after paul manafort in this. he was charged with money laundering and obstruction of justice. i've always found paul manafort to be a very nice man. and i found him to be an honorable person. paul worked for me for only a few months. >> as campaign manager. >> he worked for john mccain, bob dole. you talk about what paul was many years ago before i ever heard of him. if we flipped it around and if hillary clinton's campaign manage with an ankle bracelet on, already pled guilty and was cooperating, i have a fee

when the news broke yesterday about bruce ohr, and the conversations he had with fusion gps and chris steele the way supposedly were done without knowledge of his -- those in authority over here aim though he was very high ranking fourth in line authority at the department of justice, we then find out that not only meeting with fusion gps and christopher steele who wrote the fake dossier, but that, i mean, you cannot make this stuff up. that bruce ohr's wife was working at the same time for fusion gps and was their expert on russia. so, we said when we saw this yesterday with my colleagues we discussed the issue and decided that the best course of action here in our view as lawyers was that a special counsel be appointed as by the way chuck grassley has stated as has lindsey graham has stated to look into all of this. as i said in my statement, the conflicts of interest, within inside the fbi and department of justice as to this fusion gps matter is breathtaking in scope. now, nbc gout that. i was clear as you saw three times in email a text exchange with the main reporter on this and nbc sa

mccain institute senior director and former director met with the dossier's author, chris fer steelen london last year and returned to the u.s. with a copy of the dossier that he gave to senator mccain who handed it over to the fbi. joining me now to talk about it, judicial watch president, tom fitton. the fbi already had it. they had it six months earlier. this guy went over there in november and came back with the dossier and gave it to mccain, gave it to the fbi and the fbi had it since july of 2016. in fact it formed the basis for launching the trump-russia investigation. >> yeah. the obama fbi had been working with the clinton campaign for months already on the dossier. let's be clear here. cramer went over and met with someone who had been on the payroll of the clinton campaign at the dnc who had hired this gentleman through their law firm. they basically used a cutout law firm to hide from the american people the fact that they were paying this gentleman, and then he allege allegedly went to rusr communicated with russian to get dirt on donald trump, placed there by the russia

david: we want to know exactly who introduced kramer to chris steele. was it somebody in the fbi?as it andy mccabe? was it bruce ohr, whose wife was working for fusion? was it peter strzok who talked about it in his messages? any indication who introduced this mccain associate to christopher steele, the british spy? >> only most, the only fact we know for sure that kramer was sent at the behest of senator john mccain. who offer tipped this off and set up this meeting most likely in contact already with the senator. david: evan, there is a question whether the fbi spent any money on this largely-discredited dossier. if they were actually paying for some of this stuff, and then circulating after they pay for it, there has to be some law that was broken somewhere. >> god, i hope they didn't pay for it that would be a waste of taxpayer money. what they should do if responsible law enforcement organization should confirm or deny. if they found the dossier is bunk and say it is bunk and here is why. the reason we get to the bottom of lot of things going on there a allegations, including

when you go back to the feud between mccain and trump, he sent david kramer over to meet with chris over steelfter the election, mid-to-late november and then proceeded to pass the dossier over to james comey, so that in and of itself is pretty interesting. he would do this after trump was elected. >> brian: we are about to find out with the inspector general, preventing all of this from coming over in and saying, the world at the dossier plate and the unmasking of some level with president trump, overall investigation, the fbi perhaps is about to be extremely embarrassed at the high level with this investigation, maybe we are about to find that out ay had for the exits including andrew mccabe in 2015. >> what is really important is for the fbi and the department of justice to answer congress' questions about the dossier and its use in securing a wiretap against their trump campaign affiliate. they have been really, really not forthright about their role. and that it's causing a lot of problems for investigators, devin nunes, the chairman of the house oversight committee sent a letter to rod r

apparently he had undisclosed contact with the firm that did the dossier that fusion gps along with chris steele as well. ainsley: why did devon nunes have to subpoena him to give information. the doj riffs to hand over any information about what happened. pete: that's right. 10 months ago we learned that the former british spy christopher steele had taken that hillary clinton campaign funded dossier to the fbi. what we are learning now is that congressional investigators, sort of even more consequential discovery like you said that the knowledge of that dossier project goes all the way to the top levels of doj. including this career doj guy bruce orr who works right underneath sally yates. steve: right. pete: a name you might know. all the dots are starting to connect. ainsley: this orr guy had multiple connections that led to that dirty dossier. he had contacts with christopher steele who was that agent that spy in the u.k. who was hired to pay russia to get information for that dirty dossier. steve: right and the simpson the guy who runs fusion gps. it looks so cozy. if you were watching the

was demoted this week after house investigators discovered he met with the dossiers author, chris of her steelhrough the 2016 campaign. he also met with the election with them to confirm that hired steele to compile the dossier. ohr did not to close the meetings to doj officials. this is raising new questions about what the two justice department knew about the dossier and if it was used to obtain a warrant to surveilled members of the trump campaign. that's why it's so serious, lawrence. it doesn't matter it may be tiny parts of the dossier are true. so much of it is unverified, and so much of it has been false and salacious. if that was a document that was used to justify spying on americans warrantless elite is pretty egregious. >> lawrence: welcome republicans to the party. welcome. libertarians have been talking about the deep state and the fbi for a while. it was just back the blue. i do back the blue, but make sure the blue is following the law. a lot of these people are corrupting this apartment. i have entrusted the fbi since they left my hometown of garland, texas. there is an fbi ag

about it, if they ask bruce ohr a question about what he did regarding the dossier, meeting with chris steelet answer it's like what do you have to hide? maybe you shouldn't stillable at the fbi, buddy. ainsley: why is he still? he was just demoted. brian: text messages refer to andy. steve: peter strzok and lisa page. >> august 5th, 2016. they talk about what happens essentially to paraphrase if trump wins. insurance policy like you have an insurance policy die before 40. they refer to andy. i believe it's him. let's see if he answers that question. ainsley: the house wants to know does he have a connection with this guy, this strzok guy. and did he know that he was -- that ohr was inclusion. had these meetings with fusion gps. what did he know? what did andrew mccabe know? brian: will we ever know? ainsley: probably not. steve: also yesterday, eric holder, he tweeted this out, absolute red line. the firing of bob mueller or crippling the special counsel's office if removed or tampered with there must be mass, popular peaceful support of both. the american people must be seen and heard. they

i think we'll continue to have republican majorities next year. >> woodruff: michael steele, chris buskirku rothenberg, thank you all. >> thanks, judy. >> thanks. >> woodruff: the man who oversees special counsel robert mueller's russia probe was grilled today on capitol hill. as hari sreenivasan reports, deputy attorney general rod rosenstein defended himself against republican charges the investigation was a partisan "witch hunt" against the president. >> sreenivasan: the chair of the house judiciary committee kicked off the hearing with a litany of what he called "insider bias" against president trump. >> mr. deputy attorney general, the d.o.j.'s reputation as an impartial arbiter of justice has been called into question. >> sreenivasan: he pointed to text messages that were turned over to congress by the justice department yesterday. peter strzok, a top f.b.i. official, texted an agency lawyer that the prospect of candidate trump becoming president was "terrifying" and that hillary clinton just "has to win." strzok had investigated clinton's use of a private email server, and after tru

that they paid fusion gps and they hired chris to -- christopher steele. russians to lie about donald trump all to infiltrate the election and there is a possibility as i came up in the hearing with jim jordan that that phony russian propaganda lying dossier was used as the basis to get a fisa warrant against either candidate and/ord president-elect trump and his team. if that is the case, which it appears it may be a possibility after the hearings today, what does that mean? >> what it means is that the obama administration did everything that it could to block trump from winning and second, to undermine and weaken and cripple trump as he took power. and this is ultimately going to go all the way to the entire administration. it is the national security advisor. it is the ambassador to the united nations. it is a whole range of people. it is the attorney general. and i think that people need to recognize this. it is an extraordinarily wide-ranging pattern of corruption. i mean corruption, not in the sense of money swapping hands, but in the old fashion se

steele before a british spy. it's a lot to digest. all of this comes as chris wray was grilled by congress this afternoon.e a look at part of that. >> i ask you again, surely you've examined the definition and the distinction between extreme carelessness and gross negligence. are you really going to tell us that you don't have an opinion on that distinction? >> gross negligence is the language and the statute, but i believe also been anybody who grabs a thesaurus would say gross negligence and extreme the careless are pretty close to each other. >> tucker: congressman steve king joins us. before i ask you about your hearing today, this news that aaron sibley who was working with former director mueller. once was the personal lawyer of hillary clinton's i.t. guy. why would he hire an obvious partisan for a job like this? >> if this whole thing screams conflict of interest along the way. the whole thing was asked of director wray. he has a tight rope he needs to walk. the question was essentially, did you have a criteria in order to be part of the team or did director mueller have one or was it happenstance

steele many times. rob rosen stein pulled his ticket. >> i think there is a lot of speculation. jim jordan raised the theory and tried to force chris wray to contradict him for various reasons. it is so political, so tribal. it wasn't that long ago during the 2016 presidential race the democrats were accused of favoring trump in the new york field office. now the tables are turned. it is strictly political with the republicans all raising these types of questions. it wasn't that long ago when the shoe was on the other foot. >> last question to you, ruth. i had a column in your paper, "washington post", my paper as well. saying second special counsel. it drew 3,000 comments. most unhappy with it. >> yea! no, i mean, they can be happy or unhappy. as long as they're commenting, bring it on. i think we have a process in place that is the inspector general who was already looking at this. they don't -- they can make recommendations. we need to figure out before we start. i thought conservatives weren't into the notion of special counsels. before we start leaping into those extreme things, we need to think about whether we have an instit

steele in the opposition research firm fusion gps. there is evidence here. >> that's not evidence. chrishe said that republicans and many conservatives including the media are trying to undermine robert mueller's investigation as it gets close to donald trump, as it gets close to the trump family. this column proves chris's point. man bites dogs. congress is supposed to get out of the way of a justice department investigation or get out of the way of a special counsel investigation. it doesn't work the other way. we know that congress, republicans in congress are trying to avoid and slow walk any investigation of donald trump and russia. so much so that the chair of the house intelligence committee had to recuse himself because he was so biased towards the president. so this is a ridiculous joke, another example of a conservative media outlet trying to undermine mueller whose integrity has not come into question in this probe. >> i think their integrity has been called into point. >> mueller's integrity. >> no, his team. democrats want to say trump is working with the russians and republ

chris, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt. there are perfectly legitimate questions for andrew mccabe about that dossier compiled by the foreign british intelligence operative for steelet this guy? is he accurate? he provided crucial information in their investigation of the international soccer corruption. he got his information from a network of sources that he had in russia as a known to the u.s.-british intelligence operative known to the cia. i think at the end of the day, the question on this dossier is can robert mueller really prove any of it in court? it doesn't matter where they got their tips. what matters is what can they prove and where does the investigation go from here, chris. >> the fbi issued a statement obviously responding from the criticism they've heard from the president and some republicans. it says, attacks on our character and demeaning comments about the fbi will not deter agents from continuing to do what we have always done, dedicate our lives to protecting the american people. when is the last time you saw a statement like this come out, and what are you hearing as reaction on the ground from your former colleagues? >> so my former collea

chris. yanks he said if you're supported. now they're going by gary with what remains of the still mills on the right. lights sparkling flickering flames, kerry was known as magic city with the u.s. steel arrived to build the mills on the south side of lake michigan. now the population of 78000 is less than half for intent of the people who still live there are poverty. curious a perfect specimen of what it looks like what janesville striving not to become. chris drives on. almost 1:30 a.m. and the grantee drives through and enters illinois, the skyway in the express rain gets clogged. dan ryan it's easy to cruise because there later than usual and most of the city christened it. the downtown skyline comes into view. just north of chicago a red car passes with four guys inside. thomas driving looks like o'leary .. matt dozes off joining paul in his slumber. chris doesn't like the silence. good thing matt is awake when a little after 2:00 a.m. the text arrives on his phone from another car for the janesville gypsies up ahead. while marker 28 cup and the median. 9 miles later, no lake tickets, can afford to. the longtime mac i pulled over he told the officer the truth, he worked in fort