net zero lunacy, we can go live to reform uk's south east conference and our political editor christopher hopeisitical editor christopher hope is there for us. and christopher, i believe you've got someone with you. and also, interestingly, it appears that nigel farage might have opened the door to a shamima begum return. what's all that about? >> patrick. hi. welcome to esher in surrey, where we've been here for the south east conference of the reform uk party. and with me is the chairman of the party, zaheer yusuf ziya. patrick was asking now on the channel, what's all this about? shireen obe begum, your leader thinks we should be opening the door to her coming back to the uk. >> well, when reform uk topped a national opinion poll for the first time to find out. now poll yesterday putting it at 25%, albeit joint up with labour. i said to nigel, okay, watch the attacks come in and right on cue. so if anyone actually cares about truth, then they should actually look at what nigel actually look at what nigel actually said, which was that what's happened in syria is that there's been regime change