we're we but thanks to activists like you we saw sopa and pipa they were shot down but since then cispa came out people were calling that a soap at two point zero we're seeing things like feisty and other alleged pieces of legislation that aim in one way or another to cracking down on internet freedoms do you think that we're going to continue to see legislation like this oh yeah i mean you know the forces against freedom are powerful like you said there are many of them it's not just hollywood but everybody has an interest in restricting freedom in some particular area or another so we've seen you know with cispa certain groups have an interest in invading people's privacy because they're so people's personal data you know and that's that's just the way it goes right there are all sorts of private forces who are interested in a particular private interest but what they're up against is the public and the public interest they're up against a whole swath of people with this notion of collective good and collective identity and the sort of private mercurial aims that these private corpora

under both cispa and the secure i.t. act, companies can start giving the federal government your private information well before the government actually has privacy rules in place for how to handle that information. under the secure i.t. act, the government has total immunity from lawsuits arising out of its cybersecurity operations, total immunity for the government. the secure i.t. act also lacks any regular independent oversight of the federal government's actions under these new authorities. the cybersecurity act of 2012 now has all three of these protections. under this bill, privacy rules have to be in place on the first day the companies start giving the government information. people can sue the government when it abuses its authority, and there will be recurrent independent oversight by both the privacy and the civil liberties oversight board and inspectors general. these are just four main categories of changes that the sponsors of the cybersecurity act have adopted. there are other changes, too, that i won't g

there to his threat to filibuster sopa before became before it became extremely unpopular his calling cispa a false choice between privacy and security his pointing out of the t p p could contain unpopular internet regulations but now let's move on to someone else shall we just yesterday house homeland security committee member ted poe introduced a bill that would force drone operators to obtain a warrant before conducting surveillance here's what he had to say. yes mr speaker the drones are coming who will operate these drones and what will be their mission congress has the legal obligation to ensure that the fourth amendment rights of private citizens are protected in this new drone world. and i couldn't agree more it's not a technology we shouldn't be used but with the f.a.a. forced to outline rules for domestic drone use by twenty fifteen we really need some safeguards but tens of thousands of drones expected to watch us from above in just a few years i think it's a pretty solid idea also a thought shared by some of those colleagues as we told you a few weeks ago senator rand paul and c

specifically it is interesting though because they of course are against you know vocal opponents of cispa and so on and we saw the rand paul pretty vocal about that but at the same time. these bills are being backed massively by the corporate industry defense corporations with this same manifesto they are saying do we really want the government to be regulating the internet if we're going to have anyone overseeing what happens on the internet it should be the corporations but then you have comcast you know throttling user data which is starting all of the major a lot of people don't realize this but the major i s p's internet service providers in the united states starting some of them already started the by july twelfth they will be implementing a policy where if they think you've done something bad on the internet they will slow your internet they will do that larry think that you're sharing copyright material they will throttle your service they could eventually terminate your service they said that they're not going to but they haven't ruled it out and you know these things have been

well from sopa to cispa to fight several bills have surfaced in congress lately that aim to regulate the internet and telecommunications now this has alarmed internet activists that say government spying can lead to abuse but at least one senator is leading the way to protect internet freedoms senator ron wyden has been very vocal on the issue and he spoke out against vice it today at the cato institute here's what he told our. plus certain certainly the government stated that there has been a violation of the fourth amendment. protections of individuals privacy and you start down that road on the my side of the confidence in my heart and our government and i'm just not going to accept that as a standard way of doing business well if i so was passed back in two thousand and eight and allows the government to wiretap and monitor answer national phone calls it's set to expire soon but there is an africa in congress now to renu they controversial legislation for more on this government spying program aaron swartz founder of demand progress joined me earlier to give his take. well as i t

cybersecurity legislation that are out there and call for he just said congress needs to act there's cispa which already passed the house hasn't done in the senate yet the senate is working on a couple of versions of its own all of them saying if arius in their own ways i mean what's what's your take on these and i've talked to staff from both sides of this and frankly d.o.d. is asking for things it doesn't need i think that's part of the problem up front has all the guidance requirements capabilities to do what's necessary to protect the government and our infrastructure now they just choose not to do that they're looking for additional verbiage in the thought. which they really frankly don't need but they want us out there it is over you know over private companies and they want to say you have to now share all this data with us absolutely and again i believe if there's potential for abuse there will be abuse and listen look at the record of not only this administration but the bush white house as well neither administration was good in any aspect of giving congress the right full in for