if you look at the two opinions, mcconnell and citizens united, i think you can see why citizens united was not an o'connor kind of opinion. first of all, it overturned a decision just from seven years earlier, you know, what happened to star decisis. and the opinion had given great deference to the legislative judgment about whether spending money in campaigns at certain times could be harmful, could raise the specter of corruption or at least the appearance of corruption. in mcconnell they had accepted that argument. in citizens united, the court said that isn't true. there won't be corruption. we don't have to worry about that. and that, again, was, first of all, no deference to the legislature and saying something was different than being in another opinion without any reason for it. and the other thing i think you would see that would trouble her about citizens united, we heard talk about how justice o'connor tried to deal with the four corners of the case presented to her, not make any sweeping comments and citizens united, of course, the opinion went far beyond initially the ques

. >> it happens that i was with her when she learned of citizens united decision and she herself and said anything that was critical of the current court, but she commented that they don't understand and this will not work out well. if you look at the two opinions, i think you can see why citizens united was not an o'connor opinion. first of all, it overturned the decision from seven years ago. it also that the mcconnell opinion that had given great deference to the registered deference whether spending money in campaigns or certain times could be harmful to raise the appearance of corruption and in mcconnell, they had accepted that argument. the thing that would trouble her about citizens united is justice o'connor really try to deal with the four corners of the case presented to her and not make any sleeping comments in citizens united far beyond the question presented to the court, so i think if you compare the two, it is pretty clear why she thought it was a bad opinion. >> kathleen, you were in her first crop of law clerks and if there's one thing i learned from evan thomas's bo

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i have one question regarding the idea of hamiltonianism versus the citizens united ruling and the quasi plutocracy that was going on in the congress right now. how do you think he would have approached that situation? >> so, the question is how would -- yes, yes, i'm trying to -- and also to make sure that i'm answering the right question, too. >> right. insofar as hamilton said the first duty of society is justice. >> right. >> in light of the citizens united ruling and what's going on in the congress right now. >> so, what would hamilton think about the citizens united ruling, which is a scotus ruling from, what -- >> five years ago, yeah. >> five years ago? that said, in short, that corporations are people. yes. hamilton made very clear that corporations are corporations. they're not people. if they were people, we wouldn't need to form corporations. what a corporation is, is simply a type of business entity that has certain qualities, the most important of which is perpetual succession, which does not mean that a corporation lives forever. he helped to establish corporations, as i n

he did not write the majority opinion in citizens united by hereof very strong concurring opinionnd certainly he's pretty much identified with that as well. did you ask him if he has any regrets. >> i can't tell you exactly how he characterizes certain things, so much of our conversations were off the record and we were constantly negotiating what will go on the record. but i can tell you from everything he has written and what i observed is that he feels the court itself is right to leave it to elected officials that the court should not be in the business of policing some of the voting violations in the locality should be in charge of that and in terms of the feet, citizens united he believes more money and more speech, speech has money, the better. he does not see the practical consequences the way many people do and when you talk about dividing my situation, after the shelby county ruling in 2013, almost immediately in texas and north carolina the state legislature passed restrictions, the implemented voter id laws, they redistrict in a way that were immediately challenged as

it's clear, there born in the united states, they are a citizen. the fact that their mother th they have committed a crime of some kind is irrelevant read the mother can make a bank robber, that would mean a child can't be a citizen but the 14th amendment goes beyond that. first of all it's the longest minute ever added to the constitution. it's got all source of convoluted provisions and some of them of no particular relevance today like the confederate debt can't be paid they put in, we talk about reparations today read they put in the 14th amendment there's never going to be any payment to the owners because they were demanding reparations or the loss of their property but no, no one is going to get paid for the loss of their property in slaves . in other provisions you know about but the first section is the key of course which first creates this birthright citizenship and then says that states cannot deny, cannot deprive any citizen of the privileges or immunities of citizens whatever those are. it doesn't tell you and then at no person, that'

that declares everybody born or naturalized subject to jurisdictions is a citizen of the united states and of the state where he lives and that no state may abridge the privileges or immunities as citizens of the united states. they meant chiefly that slaves with all the rights. no state could interfere of the framing of the amendment of personal rights guaranteed and secured and the right guaranteed by the bill of rights and then the feds declared to have the power of enforcement. right quick snow. that the whole country anxiously awaited. in the 1873 slaughterhouse case ruling. and with that main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro but there is a big difference between those privileges conferred by state citizenship and national citizenship it includes only such things as the right to travel on the interstate waterways and not to be subject to rules of attainder. all dealing with life liberty and property attached to state citizenship and not national are not protected by the 14th amendment one of the three vehemently dissenting justices objected it was unequivocall

court demolished our rights as voters with citizens united in the mccutcheon cases billions of dollars have flowed to politicians through super pacs and the public has been forbidden from accessing the names of these doe donors with this new ruling those dark money rules well they're going to change providing at least a little bit of transparency in finally allowing us to see who is buying our politicians that's all for tonight find us on twitter at facebook on facebook dot com slash r t america's lawyer you can watch all our t. american programs on direct t.v. channel 321 also strain on live on you tube and be sure to check out our tease new portable app where you can actually watch any any program you want your favorite shows how might have been so on your own this is america's lawyer where every week we tell you the stories that corporate media is ordered not detail like the ones we're told are not they can't tell the stories because their advertisers are the political connections don't allow for the great no. if. i were him will. pick i'm. not going to. show. you look who you know

a larger percentage of its population than any country in the world, testing about 5% of all citizens. united states by comparison has .3%. half of those who tested positive and iceland have been completely asymptomatic. so given all of this, what is a wise response to this pandemic? historically, health officials have used quarantine to contain infectious diseases. until now, a quarantine consisted of doing everything possible to protect the especially vulnerable. in this case, that would include the elderly and immunosuppressed. we have a pretty good idea that targeted quarantines work right if they've been used for centuries around the world. but that's not what we did. instead, the united states and many other countries instituted mass quarantines in which government shut down entirely nations for long periods, this never happened before. mass quarantines makes sense if you are fairly certain it will it prevent mass infections, but are we certain of that? despite what you might hear on television, we are not certain of that still. there are some indications it hasn't been as effective as

since january 20 ninth, we have repatriated over 50,000 united states citizens back into their homes. more than 490 flight back to the united states from all across the world. this worldwide scale of our repatriation efforts is without parallel in our lifetime. we are coordinate with foreign governments, militaries, airport authorities, capitation, hotels, you name it, we are working with them. you can see a map of the flights that we have brought people back from all across the world. every day i get to hear a -- here examples. working with the peruvian military and police forces to send the remote of the river to get citizens that were stranded deep inside the amazon forest. our mission in the fall, make sure the woman running low on medication could get what she needed before boarding the flight back here. our embassy sprang into action. they said thank you for helping me get back onto my dad. pretty neat. we received similar messages from lots of people. they are proud to know that their country will not leave them stranded. one woman wrote i was in tears when i received the email

citizen soldier concept again. to reap the reward of your campaign. i rejoice with you our country is in tact and united and our government stronger than ever and that the necessity for our armed service no longer exists. seems to me he thinks the war is over. william wily certainly did. this notion of citizen soldiers, let me double back a little bit, this is why black military service was so important. what is the most important service that a white male can render to a nation in a democratic republic? military service in time of crisis. the black men who put on unif m uniforms thus staked exactly the same claim to citizenship as the white shouldiers stake bid doing the same thing. that's why lincoln and others said you need to give the vote at least to black veterans. can't ask them to risk their lives for the republican and then tell them they can't vote at the end of the war. 80% of the men in uniform may 1865 were home by that november. 80%. and one year after that there were 11,000 left of the more than 1 million citizen soldiers who had been under arms. it's a very fast demobilization and that t

what all of these stories really show is that when regular citizens united and fight for the democracy that they wan want, when they grab onto the mlk moral arc of justice, and pull it down hard, the structural barriers they don't stand under that kind of pressure. let me just leave you really quick with a story from alabama that really stays with me. it was a night in the 19 nineties in rural alabama that lost their voting rights forever that was the night it might sound familiar to a lot of high school friends and classmates car they go through a drive-through and someone passes around the joint and then there is a police car and white officers are wondering what the odor might be other cops would've looked the other way and a lot of other towns that night. they did. but this evening they gave them drug possession charges for everybody now they are felons instead of seniors and drug possession even minor, also was called the crime of moral turpitude and if you are guilty of that you forfeit your right to vote forever. she was 17 years old and had never voted and never would her most

or should i speak in terms of what any citizen in the united states should know about the war? and i wondered how in 40 minutes i could do justice to advising anyone about what should be considered a sort of baseline grasp. of a seismic event that has been examined so massively and has produced such a rapidly expanding literature. i don't know whether i solved the problem or not. we can chat about that later. i'm going to begin by saying that i think the degree of popular ignorance about the civil war and about united states history more generally is quite astonishing. and very upsetting to me. more than 30 years of teaching at universities at penn state, university of texas, and at uva for 20 years, reveal that far too many students even very bright students embark on their postsecondary education with really kind of hopeless muddle. about american history. they're especially bad on chronology. and don't really appreciate the things actually happen in a sequence. and often because one thing triggers the next one and then the next one, they're not just random things that fall i

>> citizens united. okay fine all special interest are in a closed room it is smoke-filled you are locked out what are they doing in that room that you dislike? making sure the voice of the people isn't heard so it seems like there is no bottom but it took me years later to write about the alienation that is a real complaint that you don't have the ability that you are reaching out in the image of the gym there's nothing to reach out and grab you are there standing alone and you think the problem there are super pacs spending too much money. >> now we go to questions to the audience. >> getting to the subtitle of the book why some places thrive and others collapse. i identify as a midwesterner from wisconsin when i was back there last summer the home of the republican party with a well-known small regard to some kind of college. the elementary school has been converted to small independent senior living because there are no kids and people who lived in the country with farms were moving to town to live c

out, requires a lot of work, but i think what all of these stories show is that when regular citizens unite and fight for the kind of democracy they want, when they grab on to that martin luther king's long moral arc of justice in the universe and they pull it down hard, these structural barriers, they don't stand under that kind of pressure. just leave you real quick with a story from alabama that really stays with me. there was a night in the 1990s? rural alabama that sherry lost her voting rights forever, and it was a night that might sound familiar to a lot of us. high school friends in a classmate's car and go through a drive-thru and someone passes around a joint and then there's the sound of a police car and a couple of white officers wondering what the owed door might be. a lot of cops might have looked the other way probably in a lot of other towns that night night clear's evening end its with drug possession charges for everybody. they were no longer senior eyes of the state. they were felons and in alabama drug possession, even a minor drug possession charge, also was called a cr

what else, citizens united. they are in a closed room, it's smoke-filled and you are logged out. what are they doing in that room that you dislike? and they said we are making sure the voice of the people isn't heard and it seems there is no bottom but it took years writing about the alienation like that is a real complaint is that you don't have the ability like you are reaching out the images. there's nothing to providetheree resistance or reach out and grab it's just sort of you are there standing there not able to shape the world around you and think that the problem is the they are spending too much money. >> why don't we start right up here up front. a i would like to get to the subtitle of the book why some places thrive and others collapse. and i identify as a midwesterner cause the veto from wisconsin and when i was back there there was a well-known small liberal arts were some kind of college and the elementary school in downtown had been converted to small independent senior living because there are no kids and people who lived in a country with farms, etc., were movin

citizens of the united states how well the government is doing and in all fairness of course the federal government has all of course also the state governors have done a better and better job more supplies to where it's needed to the health care workers at the front lines and still. the president manages to and taken eyes of the press in a south criminal lawyer way and is combative with the press when asked about a government report his own government report of a health and human services inspector general which states that there is not enough protective gear piece so-called p p e at the front but in the hospitals other shortcomings and speaking of the states keeping us up to date on the latest from some of those hot spots like new york city where there is some cautious optimism that the. new infections is being flattened. there actually is new york has a 2nd day off a flattening curve that means there's no in the trajectory through the roof development anymore meaning not so many cass cases so fast so flattening there and that gives reason for some hope however the governor of new york

capacity for our health care system to reach out and do whatever it takes to take care of the citizens of the united states the field hospital in central park will be able to take nearly 70 khurana patients the u.s. open tennis complex will be home to another makeshift emergency clinic the white house is projecting as many as 240000 u.s. deaths officials say that without social distancing measures now in place that could have been more than 2000000. well ditto his washington correspondent all over solid was following president trump's latest briefing on the fight against a coronavirus i asked him why the country was so ill prepared despite seeing the pandemics catastrophic impact on asia and europe here's his assessment well part of the answer you could see in today's press briefing so was today 2 months after the 1st case of coronavirus was diagnosed in the united states and today president had his exports inform the public about flattening the curve a practice that's been in place or all the world for quite some time so the u.s. is lagging behind in responding to the virus they started very late w

but i come before you as a citizen of the united states and also a citizen of the cherokee nation, and i an eighth generation oklahoman because of the trail of tears. at the time of our forced removal, the cherokee's own owned farms and even plantations. as lindsay pointed out, the constitution adopted patterns out of the united states, and, as lindsay also stated, almost every family of the cherokee nation had at least one literate member, and it compared to the high illiteracy rate of the states surrounding the cherokee nation. so with publication, we begin in 1828 of our newspaper, "the cherokee phoenix, " the cherokees became well-informed of the issues of removal. by 1819, our people had ceded 90% of our original lands, so by the time of removal, the little dark area at the bottom is all that was left. so these remaining lands we sought to keep, while our white neighbors sought to have them removed. the supreme court in the 1832 decision, the case of worcester v georgia, recognized that the cherokee nation, yet even this did not save us from the treaties signed by a of charities,

but i come before you as citizen of the united states and also citizen of the cherokee nation.nd i'm an eighth generation oklahoman because of the trail of tears. at the time of our forced removal, the cherokees owned so with the publication began in 1828 of our newspaper, the cherokee phoenix, the cherokees became well-informed on the issues of removal. by 1819 our people preceded 19% of our original land so by the time of removal the dark area at the bottom is all that was left. so these remaining lands we sought to keep while our white neighbors sought to have them removes. -- removed. u.s. supreme court recognized the sovrnt of the cherokee nation and this did not save us from the treaty signed by a handful of cherokees. with major rich as one of the principle leaders. the signers had no authority to speak for the cherokee nation yet congress ratified this treaty on may 18, 1836 by only a single vote. and it was signed by president andrew jackson on may 23rd. and the cherokees were given two year from that date to remove. our principle chief and tribal council continue in t

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well, citizens united. then i'm like fine, all the special interests are in a closed room. it's a smoke filled. you are locked up because all these other laws. what are they doing in that room that you dislike? they said we are making sure the voice of the people is heard. to it seemed like there's no there, no bottom but it took me years later writing by the information to realize that's a real complaint that you don't have the ability, it's like you're reaching out, the image of the gym again. there's nothing to provide resistance, nothing to reach out and grab it it's just sort of you are there standing alone alienated not able to shape the world around you and you think the problem is that there are super pacs that are spending too much money. >> sure we could to questions? >> question from the obvious. we have microphone that will come over to you. are the microphones working? why don't we start right up here in front. red jacket. >> i'm going to get to the subtitle of the book, why some places thrive and others collapse. and identifies and midwesterner, actually from

some of you may not know, when tribal citizens got united states citizenship universally by act of congress, and it may surprise you, 1924. 1924. and there were some states that didn't grant state citizenship to tribal citizens until the 1960s. >> i would just add on the nonlegal side of citizenship that the earlier period that i was describing, the 1780s, 1790s, the image you saw in the washington piece medal, essentially native americans adopting all of the practices, everything but the legal conception of citizenship, and sort of adopting agriculture, western agriculture and practicing those, but that was all over the place. people had that sort of sense that that would happen and that they would essentially acclimate and become transformed in that way. but also, as henry knox said, within 50 years there won't be all that many left anyway. so, there's a weird sort of sense of will native peoples acclimate? and again, they used the term civilization all the time. or will they disappear or will they move west? all of those things are sort of overlapping and people have a sense that all of

no state may average the privileges or the immunities of citizens of the united states. what did the drafter drafters mp language? they meant slaves were american citizens with all the rights of citizens. and no state could interfere with those including the senator and the framing of the amendment the personal rights guaranteed in a secured by the first eight amendments of the constitution. as a typical commentator wrote, the rights if guaranteed which have been construed to apply only to the national government are imposed on the states and of the amendment's chief had the power to enforce them. not once the supreme court got a hold of it. the courts firs court's first pt on the amendment which the whole country anxiously awaited came into the ruling in the opinion. true the amendments main purpose was to establish the citizenship. however, there's a big difference between the privileges and immunities conferred by state citizenship and national citizenship not be subject to the build and having to do with right, liberty and property attached a state or national indoor

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some of you may not know when tribal citizens got united states citizenship universally, by an act of congress, and it may surprise you -- 1924. 1924. and there were some states that did not great state citizenship to tribal citizens until the 1960's. >> i would just add on the nonlegal side of citizenship, the 1780's, 1790's, what you saw in the washington piece metal, essentially native americans adopting all the practices, everything but the legal citizenship, adopting agriculture, western agriculture, that was all over the place. people had the sense that that would happen, and they would, essentially, acclimate and become transformed in that way, but also, they said, "in 50 years, there will not be all that many left anyway." so it was a real sense of -- will native americans acclimate? and again, they use the term "civilized, " but not of it happens at the same time, and it was an interesting period in that world, what will happen? >> two things, really. one, the titles that were supposedly given to the american indians, did they include mineral rights at that time? and also, wo

or comment is this, that this may sound crazy what i am about to say, but i feel like as citizens of the united states, we have been bamboozled with propaganda. when aids came to the united states, there was no social-distancing. when ebola came to the united states, there was no social-distancing. pandemic of a flulike symptoms that 300 some odd thousand people may have heard some people have recovered and some people have died. so, i am confused about how are you going to throw this in the equation to stop being around each other, when those epidemics , were really, really, really big? host: let's get to the rules that the governors are putting in place. some guidelines, but some rules as well on social-distancing. we have had governor saying now, if you go to a grocery store in our state, you need to wear a mask, you need to stay six feet apart. validese constitutionally policies that they are making? could one argue coercion, and that is illegal -- and if that is a legal buzzword? guest: it is a great question, and the answer is it is a legal buzzword, but courts are unlikely to accept thos

item number one on the agenda for dodd is to say the essay has to stop attacking american citizens, but the united states government thinks it's outside of their purview to try to protect the citizens of another nation. of course, they know that jews are being persecuted, and that there are attacks on jews. the political opponents are being rounded up and sent to the first concentration camp, that is well reported and the american press. the u.s. government does not speak out against that during this early period. one of the ways we wanted to get at the question of what was on all americans minds, are one of the reasons was to use public opinion polling throughout the exhibition. gallup and other organizations are actively pulling americans by the mid 19 thirties, and we use polls like this throughout the exhibition to show americans concerns at home. later on, you will see many polls that ask americans opinions about whether we should be letting in refugees. by the end of the exhibition, gallup is polling in 1942, 1943, 1944, weather if they believe the stories coming out of nazi germany. so, wha

he could have emphasized citizens of the united states have the liberty to pursue a lawful and necessary occupation, and that liberty is realized in communities governed by state regulations for the common good. he could have concluded that that louisiana law, that exclusive grant was at odds with the government's duty to act for the common good. now, if lochner revisionists were right, if they were right that police power -- the police powers framework was continuous across the 19th century, that is what we should have seen from bradley. in framing that alternative, i have utilized what we know from novak's work. the right to pursue an occupation is the right of natural citizenship, yes. not changing that. bradley is still for the butchers. in my alternative framing, the right to pursue an occupation would still be conceived in relational terms. liberty would still be seen as depending on governance for the common good, the legislature would still be conceived as having a duty to act for the general welfare, and the role of the judiciary would still be enabling the rights of the communi

the battle against the virus, we will beat it, do you think this this language is helpful in uniting citizensle to reorder priorities and understand sacrifices? it is interesting this lexicon is used notjust by leaders, citizens use it, health workers use it. early on we heard of doctors and nurses on at the front line. when i walked by st mary's hospital, we are walking past a front line which is usually in syria or afghanistan and i know the danger and is it dangerous to be close to this front line. in a time like this everyone can use whatever language it is they feel they need to convey the urgency of it. it is an urgent situation which requires action by everyone but it is getting to the point where all the language of war is being used, the battle, the soldiers, the front line but the terrible thing is you do see some things, field hospitals, soldiers who gained experience in putting up field hospitals quickly and at speed building the nightingale hospital in london and even more terribly it sends a shiver, are the mass graves. mass graves at this time, there is no dignity in death even

citizens of the united states how well the government is doing and in all fairness of course the federal government as all of course also the state governors have done a better and better job more supplies to where it's needed to the health care workers at the front lines and still. the president manages to and taken eyes of the press program a lawyer way and is combative with the press when asked about a government report his own government report of a health and human services inspector general which states that there is not enough protective gear piece so-called p p at the front but in the hospitals other shortcomings and speaking of the states keeping us up to date on the latest from some of those hot spots like new york city where there is some cautious optimism that the. new infections is being flattened. they actually is new york has a 2nd day off a flattening curve that means there's no in the trajectory through the roof development anymore meaning not so many casts cases so fast so a flattening there and that gives reason for some hope however the governor of new york pointed ou

aren't states part of the united states and people citizens of the united states? >> the whole point of having a stockpile, don. the whole point of having a stockpile is for the federal government to use it for -- for the states. i mean, no matter what it says in the -- on the website. no matter how it's changed to, you know, match what jared kushner said last night, that's what it's for. full stop. >> yeah. that's the issue with, you know, having your kids as your advisor. all the best people. thank you. i appreciate it. >>> the cdc now recommending americans wear nonmedical grade masks. my next guest, a top doctor and former vice president cheney's cardiologist has some thoughts on that that you really need to hear. that's next. but when allergies and congestion strike, take allegra-d... a non-drowsy antihistamine plus a powerful decongestant. so you can always say "yes" to putting your true colors on display. say "yes" to allegra-d. - [announcer] at custom ink, we believe community is about having a common bond wherever you are. to putting your true colors on di

understand what issues are important to them and then coming to a compromise as people as citizens of the united states to you know really create a vision to move really creative vision that i think makes sense for both sides right now ted i think you have a different take on some of this both on on you know the issues that you know if you look at black voters in america that they can be highly informed they can understand why but they have chosen not to participate and i'm interested in you breaking that down for us. so it's like both very simple and complicated the 1st thing is the story of black people in the united states is a story of voter disenfranchisement whether being unable to vote while enslaved and then after the 13th 14th 15th amendments are passed black men at least are given the right to vote and within a decade of the compromise they can 77 in a bunch of historical events remove black people from the voter rolls and then terror is essentially used to ensure that even though the right to vote exists but i'm out here just for a 2nd to add can you remind people of the history that