joining me now, lecture and media at lancaster university and author of running the family firm, laura clancy the royal report podcast, jack royston. laura, i think when you talk about an estate worth $28 billion, that is eye-popping, you have writ a whole book about the monarchy and how it makes its money and how it uses its money and how it conceals its money, i'm hoping you can give us a primer on it quickly. >> a primer on it, quite a bit, and looking at the official activities of the royal family, it comes from the estate, paying to the monarchy, and there is also the london property and the duke and duchess of cornwall, and the duke of wales. and personal wealth included. >> sow said it's basically a smoke screen to hide inequality. how does that work? >> so i think it is really interesting in the report, you will see, in the annual finance documents, they talk about the brand, and they will say, you know, this amount of money is what we have, this is what we bought, and this amount to, i think it was one pound 29 per person in the u.k. last year, and that doesn't account for security c