john eastman once served as a supreme court clerk for clarence thomas. and virginia thomas is known to have stayed close -- in close contact -- with the former thomas clerks. federal judge carter ordered john eastman to release documents that the january six committee, even though eastman claimed attorney client privilege protect those documents. the judge ordered them release because, he says, that although he was acting as donald trump's lawyer when he was advising donald trump, that vice president mike pence could simply disregard electoral votes on january 6th, during congress's official count of the electoral votes, judge carter said that because the attorney client privilege does not cover possible planning to commit crimes, the documents that the committee obtained from eastman could not be protected by the attorney client privilege. clarence thomas is the only supreme court justice who voted to block documents from trump white house chief of staff mark meadows being delivered from to the january six committee at the time that clarence thomas try t

the book clarence thomas in his own words is out today, also made a film about clarence thomas. carlson today we spoke with him about what clarence thomas life's been like. here's part of a fascinating conversation. watch. >> he was born in this little shack, shanty, with no electricity, this one light bulb, you know, an out house, just abject poverty but it was kind of rural poverty as justice thomas likes to say and it had a community where, you know, they supported each other. obviously in tough times down in the south, but it was a community. when he is sworn in at the supreme court, there's a guy there named gary kemp who was, i think the grandson of lulu kemp and has clarence thomas's birth records he gives them to him. >> tucker: no way. >> yes, he goes i have your birth records and at this point he was pummeled all over the place and he was like who is this. it was gary kemp the grandson of lulu kemp who delivered clarence thomas in this little house in pinpoint georgia. >> tucker: where famously english was not the only language spoken. >> gulligicci. i think it's gulla

the 14th amendment to make interracial marriage a constitutional right, 20 years after that, clarence thomas use that constitution right, in the state of nebraska, where interracial marriage was illegal, until 1963. interracial marriage was still a novel concept for virginia thomas's white relatives in nebraska, in the midwest, even after she married clarence thomas. in 1991, when clarence thomas's nomination to the supreme court was announced, virginia thomas's aunt and uncle spoke to the washington post, saying, i can guarantee you i was surprised when i found out she was going with a black man, ginni thomas's uncle said from his farm in iowa. it was unusual for us. but he was so nice. we forgot he was black. her aunt, opal, added, and he treated her so well, all of his other qualities made up for his being black. made up for his being black. they said that in 1991! in a country where most people thought it took other qualities to make up for being black, the supreme court found in the 14th amendment, the liberty for clarence thomas to marry the woman he loved, and today, clarence thomas c

perhaps clarence thomas could.herever he is to maybe do an interview. what did you mean? can you expand on that? everybody here is going crazy. >> jesse: where would be a good place for him to do that? >> dana: there's a show called "america's newsroom." you can play one of my sound bites when i interview him. the other thing is, it's too early to tell how this will turn out. many states had trigger laws. they're moving forward. now there's challenges. people just realizing, the states decide? okay. nothing changes in new york and california. they may be outranged from a couple days and move on or maybe the summer of rage continues. we'll see. i do believe that people like aoc and elizabeth warren are overreacting to the extend that it will boomerang on them and not a good look. final thing. the democrats are mad at the biden administration and the white house for being slow to act. not being aggressive enough. what were they doing when they had the leaked opinion out there and so unorganized, not unified. you have

taking us backwards, this extreme court is taking us backwards. >> and you said it was telling clarence thomasafter the cases that he did, but he left out the case that legalized interracial marriage. thomas, of course, is married to ginni thomas, who is white. >> right. to me it's a clear indication that if it's a case that impacts him directly, it's safe. but if it's a case that protection other people, other people who are unlike him, then we're not very safe. and, again, this is just such an overstep by the government, by the court, to say the government has the right to step into that room where a woman is having a conversation with her physician or with her loved ones, overstepping the right to privacy. we stand to lose the ability to have intimate relations in the privacy of our home and not have them be criminalized. this decision is just appalling and clarence thomas, you say that there were errors in judgment made in those cases. i really suggest, clarence thomas, that you look in the mirror because that is the error in judgment. you are taking away rights. you are threatening rights

a close friend of clarence thomas is a new book called created equal clarence thomas in his own words and a film we just interviewed the other dayng joins us again tonight . mark, thanks so much for coming on . so it does seem like you had six supreme court justicesco vote to overturn roe v. wade. ga again, youca could be for legal abortion and still recognize roe v. wade was an absurd supreme court decision that degraded the institution of the court and be against it.b but why,ut thomas, why are they going after one out ofnese six ? because the left is racist. tucker , they expect clarence thomas to think the way a black man should be in based on the color of his skin. and clarence thomas for 30 years, 40 years has refused to do that and they want to destroy him and that's what they've been doing. ngand coming after him.sn and the bottom line is clarence thomas doesn't care at all what they think. is just so it's just so funny, though. i mean, f if you compare of the average black guy in america to the average white liberal in america on abortion, d the black guy is way more opposed

[laughs] did you hear there's a movie about clarence thomas? i don't think so. and it's not gonna be on c-span, we're fortunate. on a serious note, it's truly an honor to be among i personal heroes, who inspire, influencing the including justice thomas, and of course our keynote speaker. i can't mention everybody, the who's who of all stars [inaudible] [laughs] but i do want to mention c. boyden gray, in fact severely animal we called it at the dinner table, i still called it [inaudible] blatant was the one that was well in that office of justice thomas's ascension to the supreme court that was 30 years ago. i think you can already feel old enough, i was a first year law student, i do not need reading glasses today. [laughs] under the constitution the president has the power to nominate an entire -- judges. that power is contingent upon the senate offering the advice of the ascent, all president certainly take the advice seriously. but is really is the consent of their interest. our keynote speaker, has had more than a front row seat and the advice of the -- cons

but i think that ginni thomas has gotten herself into it, and i think it is clear what clarence thomascourt not to say that trump had to turn over his records. it shows that he thinks exactly like johnny thomas, or he is -- but it is impossible to really believe that they do not talk about these issues. when you get into it, there are some people involved with their testimony. i think she will testify. i think she is like a model flight. she likes being in the arena. and this is close as she gets to the arena. is to testify. and that is good that she will testify. she did contact meadows and contacted eastman, and the legislature, and clarence thomas should refuse himself of everything to do with these cases, there is no question about it. but he is not done anything in the area of ethical conduct, and the supreme court justices are to themselves, they do what they want. they roll in their own houses. so we propose some changes, but the supreme court can take them up or not and i won't necessarily reprimand it. he knows everybody in the building, and says hello, will fine, make him the

justice clarence thomas is an island unto himself right now. but what we know is that today's concurrence for today's descent even can become tomorrow's majority. it's a real question as to whether or not that particular view is able to garner enough support. that's not happening right now. but i absolutely think there will be challenges. jessica levinson, law professor joining us to >> dissects this complicated legal issue. thank you for your time. we greatly appreciate it. for more facts, insight and analysis on supreme court's ruling today. you can head to kron 4 dot com. just scan the qr code you see on your screen, it will take you straight to our website. >> and coming up, why today's supreme court decision is seen as a huge red flag to the lgbtq community and the bay area dealing with a number of wildfires happening at the same time. we'll have the >> rowe recognize the fundamental right to privacy. that is served as a basis for so many more rights that have come to take. we've come to take for granted. but are ingrained in the fabric of

the 14th amendment to make interracial marriage a constitutional right, 20 years after that, clarence thomas use that constitution right, in the state of nebraska, where interracial marriage was illegal, until 1963. interracial marriage was still a novel concept for virginia thomas's white relatives in nebraska, in the midwest, even after she married clarence thomas. in 1991, when clarence thomas's nomination to the supreme court was announced, virginia thomas's aunt and uncle spoke to the washington post, saying, i can guarantee you i was surprised when i found out she was going with a black man, ginni thomas's uncle said from his farm in iowa. it was unusual for us. but he was so nice. we forgot he was black. her aunt, opal, added, and he treated her so well, all of his other qualities made up for his being black. >> made up for his being black. they said that in 1991! in a country where most people thought it took other qualities to make up for being black, the supreme court found in the 14th amendment, the liberty for clarence thomas to marry the woman he loved, and today, clarence thoma

the lone black man on the court, clarence thomas. joining me now is cooper. 990:and justice thomas' confirmation hearing. when he made it clear that he believed they did not like anyone like him because he refused to remain on their plantation. he did not agree with them in a double worldview so he did not count as a human being and all these years later, what he said completely is still other sleep true. >> horace: that is the reason why project 21 was created. we wanted to make sure that americans understood that black americans have conservative views moderate views get liberal views. there's not a one-size-fits-all. that may come from all walks of life. and that someone amazing and as talented as clarence thomas is in fact authentically black. the challenge from my perspective as i see it has been the american people embrace this idea. i don't have a lot of pushback with america. i have a lot of pushback with the progressives they act just like democrats did during jim crow. head coach blackoak.tech stay in your lane. stay in gio -- your space. ironically,

illuminating the path before you the courage and the fidelity of justice clarence, thomas here so may this happy occasion and this prestigious new award inspire other patriots to follow suit for decades to come. congratulations to judge silverman. on this inaugural honor justice thomas. congratulations on 30 years and thank you. and on behalf of all assembled at the risk of sounding greedy. we'd like 30 more years. now justice thomas, there are no lights on the podium and now is the time for your rebuttal. oh, thank you. well, thank you senator mcconnell. the leaders too close to sort of central or eastern europe type thing but this has been this is truly an honor. i'm not gonna go on long. you all have have had a long day and you know i convinced i tell my clerks often. i'm tired of talking about me so they should talk about me and and i think they have been talking about me. so oh my goodness this it is. so embarrassing. i just the i i but i have to thank you all. i thank you for being here this evening. i know you have other things to do. i thank jen mascot whose idea this was and

now mark paletta knows clarence thomas very well. he's one ofe his closest friends. d with thomas during his supreme court confirmation hearings in nineteenkeg ninety one , he watched joe biden in action. taylor is the coauthor ofin the new book created equalre clarence thomas in his own words. that book is out today. he's also made w a film about clarence thomas for better represents tucker carlson said we spoke with paletta about what clarence thomas life isay like and has in life. >> here's part of a fascinating conversation and he was born in this little shack chantyel with no electricity, just with no electricity, just just abject poverty. but it was a rural povertyes as justice thomas likes to say and had a community where they supported each other obviously in tough times down in the south. but it was a community when he is sworn in at the supreme court, there's a guy therey named gary kemp who was a i think the grandson of lulu kemp and he has clarence thomas, his birth records. he gives them tolulu him at at clearway. yes. yes. t he comes up he said, hey, g i

, h decision. 50 one of the judges, clarence thomas, who's - decision. 50 one of the judges, clarence of the judges, i clarence thomas, who's been on decision. 50 one of the judges, - clarence thomas, who's been on court for the long time, said because of the way they decided roe had been decided badly, they should look again. this inequality. the problem, i think, i'm fairly optimistic... i think this is going to blow back on them. there is going to be a massive public anger about this that the midterms are going to have a big mccright win and all those estates that were going to bring in some abortion laws are going to find that in the years to come, their states are going to change —— democrat win. and women's rights and gay rights and rights for everybody. but to be honest, the fact that the supreme court thinks it needs to start looking to get on with this, that's all well and good, but has there ever been a situation in history where people have had a right for generations, and then they've been absolutely fine with it taking away? because i can think about it. if you're born in

ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas says that she is willing to meet with the house select committee investigating the capitol attack. the request for her interview comes after the committee says they have emails between ginni thomas and former trump attorney john eastman. eastman, of course, the architect of the delusional, unconstitutional theory that vice president pence could single handlely have overturned the election. while the contents of the emails between the two have not been revealed, eastman in emails to a different trump lawyer, according to "the new york times," seemed to have insight and knowledge that supreme court justices were in a, quote, heated fight over a possible 2020 election case. so how would he have known that? and how is ginni thomas tied up in all of this? thomas suggested to the daily caller that this is all just a misunderstanding and she cannot wait to clear it all up. meantime, there is another problem facing the committee. sources are telling cnn the panel is striking out in their efforts to get two witnesses to testify in

eastman's attorney declined to comment. >> my wife is totally my best friend. >> according to clarence thomasd in omaha, nebraska. her father reportedly was an engineer, and her mother was an outspoken republican activists who played a prominent part in her daughter's life. according to the new york times, she joined her high school republican club in 1974. later at creighton university in omaha, she learned a lot of green move to washington to work as an aide for than congressman -- a conservative from the basket. she reportedly met clarence thomas in 1986, at a conference on affirmative action. they married in 1987. >> it was on my desk, don't make fun of your wife's choices, you are one of them. >> i clarence thomas -- >> in 1991, in the washington post, of friend described the couple as intellectual soulmates. the new york times reported clarence thomas described her as a gift from god. randi kaye, cnn, palm beach, county florida. we >> are learning more about what authorities say was an assassination -- and about the kind of weapons and equipment that the suspect was carrying. what's new

we know he was a clerk for clarence thomas.entially to the case the committee is trying to build but also what's going on in terms of how much, i guess, is getting out there on private discussions held among supreme court justices? >> yes. here is where a conversation with ginni thomas could be essential. it's different -- the committee's mission is different from a criminal prosecution. here where the goal is to identify all the facts that happened and put them out there in the interest of transparency and documenting history, there's a suggestion from what you just read that there's a leak at the supreme court. one possibility of how john eastman got information about what was going on at the supreme court is linked by ginni thomas, a person we know they are talking to. or is it that eastman is talking to his former boss himself? these are legitimate questions. the reason we need to know is to determine whether clarence thomas is fit to serve and decide these cases. we know he declined to recuse himself in a decision involvin

hold onto somebody. [ roar ] >> all rights to toonie thomas the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomasthe washington post found ginni thomas sent identical emails to 29 republican state lawmakers in arizona urging them to set aside joe biden's popular vote victory, and choose their own presidential electors. that number represents more than half of the republican members of the arizona state legislature at the time. you should know that nbc news has not independently verified this report. back with me is my saturday night panel, eddie, i will take it to first. clarence and ginni thomas are lucky this report came out during the january six hearings, because what we know, learning -- what we keep learning basically about chinese actions, how can one in their right mind say that genie thomas did not have a conflict of interest with clarence thomas in the 2020 election cases. he was basically ruling on decisions that had to do with the 2020 election, and his wife was now, as we have learned, actively advocating to overthrow. >> you can't. i mean, it is clear, it is obvious. there is a conf

that will be clarence thomas. >> this is delegitimizing the supreme court. who is clarence thomas?i arabian father saying what i can and cannot do with my body and my life? that is what this coming down to. these people have misconception about who was going to listen to that. >> tucker: as people complain about a vaccination mandate wondering what people can do with her body. semi l jackson with a racial attack, how is uncle clarence feeling about loving versus virginia? supreme court that overturn precedent held bans on interracial marriage. these are just racial attacks why? of all the six members who voted to overturn it she is an attorney and close friend of clarence. in the film who interviewed them the other day marketing so much for coming on. it does seem like you at six supreme court justices vote to overturn roe v. wade again you can be for legal abortions and still recognize that it was absurd supreme court decision that the greater the institution to be against it, but why thomas? why going after one? >> because the left is racist tucker expect clarence thomas has refu

still ahead, justice clarence thomas laid out the game plan today saying the supreme court should nottop abortion. >> the other current freedoms >> rowe recognize the fundamental right to privacy. that is served as the basis for so many more rights that have come to take. we've come to take for granted. but are ingrained in the fabric of this country. >> president biden warning the country of what he calls a dangerous path. now that the supreme court has overruled roe v wade, the president pointing out that other rights to things like birth control are now under attack. one of the court's conservative justices made it clear in a separate opinion today that he thinks the right to same marriage should be the next to go kron four's. kerman reports. >> to kick off pride weekend, caitlin and monica decided to tie the knot at san francisco city hall friday. we want to those people that kids come to and know that. this one was for all of them to after a long fought battle, same marriage became the law of the land in 2015. >> but that may be the supreme court's next precedent to over turn ver

bundle. >> martha: george washington university is not caving to the demands to fire supreme court clarence thomasofessorship there. george washington university says "like all faculty members at our school, thomas has academic freedom and freedom of expression. it's not the role of the university to shield individuals for ideas that are disagreeable or offensive. not everybody has the same reaction. >> when you pull clarence thomas out of the supreme court -- >> he's so extreme. he's talking about banning rights that i didn't realize could be banned. >> you better hope they don't come for you, clarence and say you shouldn't be married to your wife who happens to be whites. >> i went to law school with him. he's been a person of grievance for as long as i've known him. resentment, grievance, anger. >> martha: that's from hillary clinton. let's bring in dr. ben carson, former housing and urban secretary under president trump. dr. carson, thanks for joining us today. what is your reaction to the sort of cultural response to clarence thomas that you just heard there? >> well, certainly nothing partic

does clarence thomas count, a question serious people argue and travel with. maybe funny is not the right word but what is funny about this is he reminds me in some ways very much of thehe men in y life as a child, i'm from a military family, conservative family, religious family, committed toit these black communities and there are things thomas says i've heard almost verbatim from my father or grandfather or whomever and yet my father who said to me the difference between now and then is -- not historically accurate but -- [laughter] the sentiment i appreciate, my father did not see, many conservative black americans versus black publicans don't see him as a fellow traveler so i'm curious to hear what you think. i'm curious what you think about thomases relationship not just with republicans, black republicans the black conservatives. >> let me take the first part of your question because it's an important one and thomas is well aware of this in the black community and has spoken about it and the sense of federal, personal pain he feels by the rejection of b

amy: explain where -- with the maximalist stance of clarence thomas is. >> justice thomas rights the second amendment is different from other rights in that the courts cannot look at the real world impact of gun violence when assessing the legality of gun restrictions. this is very different from every other right. when we look at free speech, the right against unreasonable searches, the court always balances interest. it asks whether the government has a compelling interest, whetr it has tailored its restriction further that interest, and it looks at how the government's actions have actually addressed the problem that it seeks to solve. in this decision, clarence thomas has all of that is off the table in second amement cases. judges are prohibited from considering any kind of empirical evidence about how gun restrictions or gun laws have an effect on the real world, including whether certain gun laws happen to protect our communities and individuals from gun violence. he says that is irrelevant to the constitution, it doesn't matter if these laws save lives or not stop all that ma

what do you make of -- of -- of clarence thomas expanding the prism on ha rights should fall under in> well, thank you for having me on this evening and i am very concerned about this decision. and the fact that justice thomas has put a target on the back of hundreds of -- >> oh, i can -- we can hear you. >> okay, i am sorry, i was interrupted by a producer. sorry about that. so i am just concerned that hundreds of thousands of marriages across this nation are at risk. and the ability of people across this nation to marry the person they love is at risk. and for justice thomas to completely omit loving versus virginia, in my mind, is quite telling. as you put it, that affects him personally but he doesn't care about the lgbtq+ community. he is opposed to our equality. he is opposed to our ability to actually be part of we, the people. so, this concurring opinion, to me, is just a roadmap for opponents of lgbtq+ equality, to come after those decisions and to make sure that we know they believe we are second-class citizens, not worthy of protection, not worthy of equality. >> it is defi

why did he think that about clarence thomas?virginia thomas. no one in the history of the supreme court, supreme court justice, and no specific supreme court justice has ever been suspected of anything as bad as what we already know, virginia thomas actually did. >> the fact that justice roberts will go to defcon one, and call in the marshals and declare an investigation, and say the courts been betrayed, because a document leaked. and then, do absolutely nothing on the set of facts, is another very, very unfortunate situation for the court. >> joining us now, nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. and dahlia lithwick, senior editor and legal correspondent for slate, and host of the podcast. she's also an msnbc law and politics analyst. and dahlia, let me just begin with you, because this would be the story, every night, for the last few weeks in a universe where we could, control how many giant stories we have going at once. and so, i didn't want to leave our coverage tonight, especially with ginni thomas linked to

and clarence thomas gets a call saying you got to read this book. he reads it is in the capitol of missouri and jefferson city is that right? he drives all the latest st. louis because thomas always the 1975 -- 76 to debate up-and-coming law professor by thego name of ruth gator ginsburg. he says thiss is his so as a whole influence on him. however you cannot homogenize black conservatives. their other black conservatives have much stronger individualistic streak in believingth colorblindness. i don't think you see this in thomas. sold he is a little bit more intention. :: to be the basis for a very aggressive politics. it isn't a guarantee. >> melet me say something about that because you reminded me of something i've been thinking about a lot. a very important book for me as a social theorist called the rhetoric of reaction and hirschman looks at three different ways the rhetoric works, one of which he calls futility and the futility argument the way they argue is to say in the face of a radical or reformist challenge that this is hopeless, this is

those protests to last for weeks or even months, especially in light of a passage from justice clarence thomas'sstablishing substance of due process -- specifically once that stop states from criminalizing same-sex intimacy, then in game areas and limiting access to contraceptives, should all be, quote, we considered. the white house was quick to respond, releasing a video featuring jim obergefell, the lead plaintiff in the landmark 2050 marriage equality case. obergefell versus hodges. >> he's supreme court decisions, they have lasting impacts. that impact can be positive like it was for marriage equality or it can be negative. this decision has the potential to wreak havoc in our

, supreme court justice, clarence thomas, now the committee wants to talk to her. she tells conservative media that she's looking forward to talking to the committee. and when you look at all of this, my question is what do you think lawmakers really hope to get when it comes to talking to ginni thomas but also learning more about john eastman? carol: you know, yamiche, so smart for you to focus on this because this is a mess. i want to say get a broom. this is a mess. the committee is conflicted about -- and has been conflicted about questioning ginni up until this moment. ginni thomas, clarence thomas' wife. she's a g.o.p. activist. has been for decades. however, in this instance, she appears to be somebody that was trying to aid and abet donald trump's push for a conspiratorial coup and was pushing the white house chief of staff to use every lever he could to keep temperature -- trump in power despite election results and emails she was talking with eastman to come speak to her group, that she was associated with, a conservative group that also was seeking to ke

clarence thomas didn't write the opinion. that was samuel alito. and it's not just protesters. more than 300,000 people have petitioned to impeach tom s. dr. ben carson has an idea why. >> for the left, the only thing worse than satan is a black conservative. he is black and he supposed to think a certain way. >> jesse: south carolina senator, tim scott. that was a strong statement by consent. the only thing worse than satan is a black conservative. do you share that opinion? >> absolutely, the greatest threat to the liberal to rule are black conservatives. we represent the fact that the african american community is not a monolithic community. if you can break the stronghold that the democrats have on the african american community, the entire collection falls apart. president biden's approval ratings have never been lower in the african american community in the hispanic community. the last thing people want to see are people like clarence thomas and myself standing up and making common sense popular everyone in the nation, by the way, we happen

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she, of course, is the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. the paper says the panel now has emails between ginni thomas herself and lawyer john eastman, who once clerked for clarence thomas and who played a very big part in trump's plot to stay in power. the committee is also intensifying its focus on republican congressman barry loudermilk. let's say his name again barry loudermilk -- do not forget it. this guy gave a tour of the covid closed capitol complex today before the insurrection. today, the committee sent the georgia lawmaker another letter, asking him to come answer some questions about that tour. the panel also released security footage that appears to show loudermilk, again, himself hosting the tour, as people are taking pictures of stairwell, security checkpoints, and even the capital capitol tunnel system -- not what you would call a usual tourist attraction. the committee says one man seen taking pictures is the very same guy heard making threats from behind the camera on january 6th. >> here's our fearless leader. >> hey [inau

clarence thomas speaks very plain language about this, right? >> right. and what's interesting, john, this opinion is 5-4 but we're seeing a three way split here how this roe opinion could affect other rights like many in this country take for granted like the right to conception and the right to same sex marriage established in this court. what we saw from justice alito wroting, to ensure our decision is not misunderstood or mischaracterized we emphasize it concerns the constitutional right to abortion and no other right. nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt in precedents that do not concern abortion. and justice brett kavanaugh also reiterated in his concurrence. however you noted justice clarence thomas was quite blunt what he wants. and here's the quote for him. in future cases we should consider all of this court's substantive due process precedents including griswold, lawrence and oobobergefell. we're seeing this conflict, justice thomas maybe wanting to go much further than some of the others. >> if i wanted to challenge same

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i will say this but clarence thomas, at least he is honest. the majority of the senate leaders claim that abortions could be cordoned off small other kinds of due process, these rights have been found in part under the 14th amendment. that is a dishonest aim, and both the dissenters and clarence thomas agree. you know, i think it is including in the separate opinion by kavanaugh and roberts, there's a lot of dishonesty here, completely because they say it. just abortion is not just abortion. [inaudible] that reporter stuff that i'll read live, most the fact that her life will be changed forever, because of some political, ideological posturing. so i do want to stop and say that these are peoples lives which are at stake here, which will be changed, irrevocably, no matter where they decide. so i think that there is something clarifying about the honesty of clarence thomas. although in his confirmation hearing, he said he did not read roe v. wade, did not discuss roe v. wade, did not have an opinion. he went around to find another case to say th

sammium jackson taking a race-based shot at clarence thomas, i found to be gross. clarence, reference to slavery, for a black man, celebrities to be drawing down a judge who is african american, rather than be proud to have an african american on the bench, to bring him down. these concerts are dumbifiying our youth, our youth are going to concerts and listening to the messages and why do you think schools are the way they are, they are being raised by liberals and celebrities, i dloent blame people. >> armstrong says he will move to the uk, they have more prohib tit abortion laws, you have to have consent from two doctors, and in france you can't get an abortion after 14 weeks, not like there is some reproductive utopia on the other side of the sea. >> julie: don't let the door hit you on the way out. >> emily: more bad news for democrats and midterm, stunning new report showing gop gaining one million voters as democrats lead support, that is next. the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can c

and joining alito were justices clarence thomas, neil gorsuch, brett kavanaugh, and amy coney barrett, three of them trump appointees. republican senator susan collins was critical to putting kavanaugh and gorsuch on the bench, saying this about kavanaugh at the time. >> he noted that roe had been reaffirmed 19 years later by planned parenthood vs. casey and that it was precedent on precedent. he said it should be extremely rare that it be overturned. >> reporter: now she says she was misled. in notes obtained by "the new york times," kavanaugh apparently gave collins private assurances, claiming he understood the real-world consequences and stating, i am a don't-rock-the-boat kind of judge. but with roe overturned, the impact was felt within minutes. abortion now illegal for 31 million americans in at least eight states, including louisiana, where reproductive rights advocates say they are worried. >> people will have to carry a child to term when they're already living in substandard housing, when their children are not getting the best education, when they can barely feed their fam

and it's ginni thomas and clarence thomas. jeanne thomas wanted donald trump badly for these types of issues that clarence thomas wrote in his concurrence taking out the right to contraception, taking out same marriage, restoring the sodomy laws that persecuted so many people in this in this country. this is that's what she was pushing for in her sort of religious zealotry. when you heard when read those e-mails and the fact that president biden has a supreme court appointment. that at stake in this. and in this year leading understand that had been donald trump's, there would be a solid 5 votes and in unshakable 5 votes to impose justice thomas talked about in his concurrence. >> hey, real quick, michael. we are out of time. but do you think there are any republican women who might change their votes on this one issue. >> there should be they should be. it should be a democrat or republican issue. it should be a question principle for everyone in this country. if you believe in a that women have a right to control what goes on

back in march, i wrote about it too, noting that unlike others on the court, clarence thomas has nevere because of ginni thomas or her work. and given that thomas is probably not going to recuse himself going forward and definitely won't resign, impeachment seems to be the only remedy. if, that is, democrats in congress are determined enough. back with me now is a democrat in congress, ilhan omar, democrat from minnesota who is also called for thomas's impeachment. congresswoman, it has been almost three months since we've learned about ginni thomas's techs to mark meadows. what is it like when you see some of these texts? they are endorsing some of the craziest, far-right conspiracy theories from the wife of a supreme court justice? watermarks on ballot papers proving corruption, having the bidens tried by a military tribunal in gitmo. this is insane stuff. >> yeah, mehdi. it's not only insane but dangerous. and i one to talk a little bit about the author of the cool memo, stir mr. eastman, he isn't just the author of that memo. he clerked with justice thompson. so, we know the connec

the latest revelations about communications between ginni thomas, the wife of clarence thomas, and johnyou say was at the lead of encouraging vice president pence not to certify the election and to give donald trump a second term. now, ginny i thomas has said sh and her husband don't talk about work, they are in separate legal lanes, as she put it, but they were on parallel tracks at the same time, just as ginni thomas was involved with trump's legal team, her husband, clarence thomas, was standing out among the nine justices for someone who wanted to emphasize some of the trump-backed theories about election fraud, about problems with mail-in ballots. he alone dissented in a particular -- he wrote by himself in this one pennsylvania case in february of 2021 emphasizing the problems with election fraud. you know, some flames that have really been rejected by experts as baseless, but he highlights the erosion of public confidence in the polls just kind of echoing where the trump team was at. he was also, as you probably remember, victor, the only justice who publicly dissented earlier th

jason, this focus on clarence thomas' remarks after the roe v. thinking he was thinking apply the same thinking to some of these other decisions. what have you discovered? >> well, what he said in his concurrence isn't news. it's a debate that is ongoing about the application of the due process clause of the 14th amendment of the constitution. he's reiterated in that concurrence what he said many times before and other writings while he's been on the court. that was really news. what i found striking, neil, about the clip you just played is that here's hillary clinton, a yale-trained lawyer asked to remark on his concurrence. she doesn't respond with a legal argument. she responds with a personal insult. talking about him being an angry man and resentful. it's an attack. it's not a logical response to his arguments in the concurrence. i think this is typical of what you get from the left, particularly when it comes to black conservatives. justice alito is simply wrong. but clarence thomas is not wrong. he's evil. he's a sell-out. he's an uncle to

is in possession of emails between eastman and ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. the details of the emails are unclear, but thomas and eastman have both been accused of trying to overturn the 2020 election. also, new questions surrounding republican congressman barry loudermilk's actions on january 5th. the select committee releasing this video showing loudermilk 46 giving constituents a tour of the capitol complex. the video goes on to claim one of the participants of the tour marched to the capitol the next day and made detailed threats against members of congress. >> loudermilk denied any wrongdoing. >> no one showed that type of aggression that day. >> reporter: former vice president pence will give a speech. many of his top advisers will be participating in the hearing. mona. >> abc's news live coverage begins at 1:00 p.m. eastern. >>> new details about the man accused of killing two police officers near los angeles. the suspect in tuesday's shooting in el monte was on probation for gun possession. the d.a. says the probation stemmed from an arrest in 2020.

he's coming after you next. >> the governor was eluding to justice clarence thomas who wrote the could should reexamine other rulings including contraception, same sex relations, and same sex marriage. today governor newsom signed a law reaffirming california's commitment to women who travel to the state for reproductive health care and abortion services. he also called on the state legislature to draft an amendment legalizing abortion. >>> just hours after the supreme court, the decision was announced, political leaders from santa clara county came together with a message similar to the one the governor delivered. the bay area's largest county will continue to be a safe haven for anyone seeking legal abortions. here's more from san jose. >> reporter: a few demonstrators began arriving at the san jose city hall plaza. they're here and will be here for the next couple of hours denouncing the supreme court ruling. the county says it's doubling down on its pledge to protect women today the south bay leaders came together to say women can come from any state to california, specifically san

the -- almost inspectors pursuing donald trump, also a loyal republican and when it comes to clarence thomas and ginni thomas she's not so interested in that. >> i'm curious to think, to know who you think john bell john is in this. and i would love for you to sing the entire score of "les mis" in this. i'm curious how you think the committee has matched its answers to the questions that they have been posing. in other words, does the evidence they presented to the american people, does it match up with the questions they have been raising? >> well, i think that they have done a very effective job so far. and they have only had two hearings, but the opening sequence in which they basically went through the whole thing and then specifically when they focused on what, you know, what has been called the big lie, the argument that in fact donald trump knew that he had lost the election, and continued to pursue this argument that it was a stolen election, a rigged election. i think they have done a good job of that, but, you know, i was skeptical from the start, and said so before the first heari

randi kaye has more. >> clarence thomas, you're the best man walking the face of the earth. >> reporterplaining to do, like, what about those emails she exchanged with conservative attorney john eastman, who the house january 6th committee says helped devise a scheme. it's unclear what ginni thomas said to eastman in the emails or if she will appear before the committee to try to explain any of it. the committee is also investigating more than two dozen text messages ginni thomas sent just days after biden's victory to mark meadows, who was donald trump's chief of staff. >> the second reagan revolution is growing. >> in one text from november of 2020, ginni thomas wrote to meadows, help this great president stand firm, mark. the majority knows biden and the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. in another, she seemed to embrace a long-held false qanon conspiracy theory that trump had water marked mail-in ballots so he could track potential fraud. she wrote to meadows, water marked ballots in over 12 state versus been part of a huge trump and military white hat sting oper