we commuted to kansas city, where we set down with the mayor, also a hillary clinton superdelegate. have that conversation later. but first, stand clear of the closing doors, because the democratic race is running express. hillary clinton and bernie sanders now in a high-speed spat over who is qualified to be president of the united states. things kickoff tuesday when cnn reported that the clinton campaign has a new three-part strategy to beat sanders. one disqualify him, two, defeat him, and three unify the party later on. "linton went on "morning joe and was asked about sanders interview with the new york editorial board. >> do you believe that bernie sanders is qualified and ready to be president of the united states? sec. clinton: i think the interview raised a lot of serious questions. sec. sanders: let me just say in response to secretary clinton. i don't believe that she is qualified. i don't think that you are qualified if you get $15 million from wall street through your super pacs. [applause] think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in iraq. [applau

kennedy: bernie sanders is going after hillary clinton superdelegates and hillary clinton spokespeople are saying that he is trying to rig the system but how did she get the the superdelegates and the first-place? what did she promised to these people? >> pickup on it or because they got binder and she got ditched back in 2082 don't forget one barack obama started running away with it they turned pale and sided with barack obama. they -- he knows that they are fickle friends if you will end and if bernie sanders looks like he's getting momentum and winning contest after contest that would cause a problem for her but it's too late for a third-party candidate. george wallace in 68, even ross perot strong as he was in 92 he didn't get one single electron college vote that you need the money and quite frankly donald trump has shown a lack of willingness to spend money. i think that's why he has problems with his campaign in colorado. i think he will win the nomination but is counting on the republican party raising about half a billion dollars. kennedy: you raise two important points about

clinton's campaign. she might be outpacing bernie sanders? terms of the superdelegates she has amassed so far. she is doing far better in a number of states before this pattern of seven primaries. sanders won. it is cause for reason for the clinton campaign. it should put a lot of the republican candidates on edge. what this really suggests is that democrats have moved so far to the left that if supporting somebody like bernie sanders and that sanders would do better in general election matchups against these republican candidates. i think if i were a republican candidate, i would be paying attention to the pays that i would be able to shore up support among independents who would probably go to bernie sanders in a general election but could potentially go to a republican candidate if they are able to kraft their message in a way that will attract those voters. >> some believe the middle 10% is what it comes down to into a general election. >> francesca, talk about the new explosion of the infighting? i want to look ahead with you a week or so. how important is new york? if sanders loses here,

sanders has 38 committed superdelegates. clinton, her superdelegates about 486. if you believe the polls, clinton will add to her pledged earned delegate lead next week. she's up 13 points in new york. dominates sanders among black voters. columnist for "the washington post," also the author of why the right went wrong. history of the conservative movement in the country. thanks for being here. >> great to be with you. >> we'll talk about your book in a second. first, your reaction, clinton and bill de blasio did a skit at new york inner circle dinner. take a look. >> i just have to say, thanks for the endorsement, bill. took you long enough. >> sorry, hillary. i was running on cp time. i don't like jokes like that. >> caution politician time. i've been there. >> normally cp is a racist reference to colored people being late. i can't imagine what is going through the heads -- >> those skits are often written by us, tradition -- >> is that right? >> yeah, i'd love to know who wrote that. but, yeah, if you're a politician, parley running in a democratic primary in n

hillary clinton will be here for a fundraiser later this morning. this is the total delegate count. superdelegatesthe pledged delegates. 1756 to bernie sanders 1068 after the democratic caucus in wyoming each got seven delicate even though bernie sanders soundly defeated hillary clinton, he's won eight of the last nine contests against mrs. clinton. according to fox news, she is beating him in new york but we are still eight days out from the near primary and that's one of the reason she is going full-court press in places like newcastle. later this morning a conversation with hillary. this afternoon she will be in washington for a conversation on gun violence. also launching a new ad campaign. take a quick look. >> he says we should punish women who have an abortion. mexicans who come to america should ban muslims from coming here at all. >> donald trump says we can solve america's problems by turning against each other. it's wrong and it goes against everything new york and americans stand for. >> you hear that she is turning her attention to donald trump. bernie sanders launching another turns

he may walk away from wyoming with less delegates than hillary clinton, superdelegates, party bosses particular state are siding with hillary clinton. so he wins by about a dozen points in wyoming and walks away with less delegates. that is why new york is so critical. yes, bernie sanders has money to stick around. yes, he has momentum but hillary clinton has the math. she has delegates, pledged delegates, state by state. a lead of few hundred, and superdelegates, party bosses. he has to not just win new york a week from tomorrow, he has to win it big. democrats share delegates. it is not winner-take-all. say bernie sanders wins the state, he doesn't take all 247 delegates at stake in new york. if he blitz shempp, 55-45. hillary clinton walks a way with lot of delegates. based on the poll hillary clinton is in the lead. bernie sanders has to have a big enough margin to make a difference with the delegates, david. david: interesting. you don't hear him complain quite as much as trump trillion on republican side. reporter: not yet anyway. david: ed henry, thank you very much. melissa. m

superdelegates. of those 44 nearly all support hillary clinton and that's something the santos campaign says they are working on. >> these superdelegates who supported hillary clinton can come over to us. reporter: stuart applebaum is one of them. he was a bill clinton delegate and 92 and 96 and now he's supporting hillary clinton. >> i received calls from people who i don't know who have asked me to consider changing my vote from hillary to bernie. i have not heard a compelling reason yet. she has two or 3 million votes more than bernie does so if that's the case why should i be thinking of switching from secretary clinton to bernie sanders? superdelegates should tip the scales for a certain candidate they are helping hillary clinton close in on the 280 -- delegates needed to clinch the nomination. >> i don't believe the nomination should be directed by the superdelegates. the person who receives the majority of pledged delegates should be the nominee to party. >> it despite the super name i'm told they don't have superpowers. >> i was hoping i would get a cape. repurpose superdelegates make up 15%

even if hillary clinton wins all the superdelegates in colorado, it would mean sanders might eke out a victory. they knew this for five week, didn't sell bernie sanders. they told hillary clinton's camp. when the post was about to break it, oh, bernie, we made a mistake. that suggests that the powerful, the entrenched inside the democratic party like maybe on the republican side, have an inside deal. even if they don't, they are giving out this impression with these deals. >> got another one for you, juan. guess what else you can promise these delegates. you can promise them a position in the upcoming administration, now, you can't say they're going to be secretary of this or that, but you can say hey, you're going to be part of the administration going forward if you vote for me. >> oh, for sure. in fact, i think there's some history here where there was an offer to the head of the pennsylvania delegation, hey, i want to make you my vice president. that's how far you can go. so, it didn't work in that case. that was reagan back in '76 when he was battling if it, but that's possible.

single one of these delegates if they're going to ultimately take on hillary clinton. >> that, to me, is where the superdelegaten begins. hillary clinton has been at the superdelegate part of this, 700 or so democratic party operatives that get to have a vote regardless of what voters say. she cleaned up early on in that group and that's a problem for the sanders campaign. >> very early on, they have been aggressively courting the superdelegates. they had about a third locked up in just months of the race. that's something that infuriates the sanders campaign, but it's how the game is played right now, and the clinton campaign has been aggressively playing the game. if you look at the superdelegate lead, the lead is huge. if you look at pledged delegates, it's still firm. the clinton campaign will argue she's going to be able to lock it up with pledged delegates alone. that's what makes a street like new york so important because there are so many delegates here. sanders saying we might not win new york, but we want to win delegates to have a little bit of momentum heading into the latest states. >> what's craz

sanders considers his ace in the hole to win over clinton's superdelegates. polls show him beating republicans by wider margins. >>> looks like a congressman wants to you've into virginia's executive mansion. the "washington post" reporting that robert wittman is un nomination for governor. creating the virginia first fund pac means that he can start to raise cash to run statewide in 2017 while seeking re-election to congress. so far we've learned that ed gillespie is running along with ken cuccinelli. >>> for the first time since the 1980s, d.c. leader are drafting a constitution for statehood. mayor muriel bowser announced her plan to a special commission last night. the "washington post" reports it has unanimous support. right how washington's 670,000 citizens lack voting rights in congress. voters could see d.c.'s initiative for statehood as soon as november. >>> now to a crime cutting right into the heart of virginia. sheriff's deputies in york town say a man stole a donation jar full of cash from a 7-eleven intended for the family of fallen virginia sta

we commuted to kansas city, where we sat down with the mayor, also a hillary clinton superdelegate.

can the senator's the momentum persuade clinton's superdelegates to join his team instead?> this is a campaign on the move. this is a political revolution sweeping america. from coast-to-coast, this is a movement getting the establishment very very nervous. [cheers and applause] trish: larry david in my head when i hear him every time. back with their thoughts on all of this, given your position in the democratic party in new york i will start with you. is bernie going to drop out at some point soon? >> i don't know. he is raising $45 million a month, has amazing crowds at these rallies. it is not just about his calculus but it is about how do you take -- tell your supporters you need to give them a soft landing to and tell them okay, i didn't win, you now have to go and support our eventual nominee, hillary clinton. trish: a process when you'd drop out you do this gradual moment in? >> you have to plan for it. it is a process and the truth is a lot of folks are concerned about whether his supporters will go out and support the nominee in the general election and he will pl

superdelegates. of those 44, nearly all support hillary clinton. that's something the sanders campaign says they're working on. >> we think some of the superdelegates who have supported hillary clinton can come over to us. >> reporter: this is one of them. >> i am a superdelegate. >> he was a bill clinton and now he's supporting hillary clinton. >> i've received calls from people who i don't know who have asked me to consider changing my vote from hillary to bernie. i have not heard a compelling reason yet. she has 2.3 million votes more than bernie does. if that's the case, why should i be thinking of switching from secretary clinton to bernie sanders? >> reporter: he doesn't think superdelegates should tip the scales for a candidate. but they are helping hillary clinton rapidly close in on the magic 2383 total delegates needed to clinch the nomination. >> i don't believe that the nomination should be determined by the superdelegates. the person who receives the majority of the pledge delegates should be the nominee of the party. >> reporter: despi

actually got fewer delegates, 14 delegates are split down the middle 7 and 7 and clinton got wyoming four superdelegates, however, continues confidence. >> we cut clinton's lead by one-third. we have won eight out of nine contests, national polling in the last two polls two of them have us ahead. we are running stronger against donald trump and other republicans. we have the momentum. nicole: 247 democratic delegates. lauren: president obama making first appearance in fox news as for talking about the investigation investigation into hillary clinton's private e-mail server as well as strategy against isis. >> i do not talk to the attorney general about pending investigations, i do not talk to fbi directors about pending investigations, we have a strict line and always have maintained it. i guaranty that there's no political influence in any investigation conducted by the justice department or the dpi. i continue to believe that she has not jeopardized america's national security. i have also said and she has acknowledged that there's -- there's a a carelessness in terms of managing emails. my number one

hillary clinton securing 31, including superdelegates. inton has 1,143 delegates to sanders 1,046. blake berman is live in wisconsin with more on this, good morning to you, blake. blake: hi, there, maria. this was a large loss for donald trump in the badger state as ted cruz beat him soundly by 15 points here. afterwards the trump campaign sent out a statement in which they said there was onslaught of the establishment. the kasich team sent out a memo, basically at this point they feel a strongly as ever that there will be contested convention come july in cleveland. as for ted cruz, no doubt about it, this was a major win here in wisconsin last night, maria, he said in his victory speech just down the road in milwaukee that he feels the political terrain shifted somewhat nationally over the last two weeks. he feels it's been happening here in the race and victory speech last night, he set his sights not necessarily on donald trump, rather on hillary clinton. >> tonight is a turning point, it is a rallying cry to the people of america. we

we wanted to know if hillary clinton could plausibly beat bernie sanders without the help of any superdelegatesy, clinton is up by 244. if clinton wins big tonight, it could bring her count as high as 1437, which is about 950 delegates short. even then, we have no real plausible way that clinton can secure the nomination based on purely pledged delegates. she would need 65% of the remaining to pull that off. given the proportional representation rules, that is pretty unlikely. assuming a new york win for clinton, if her campaign maintains its currently and splits all the remaining delegates with bernie sanders 50-50 she would need the help of , 211 superdelegates to push her over the threshold. so basically, sanders can potentially convert more than 500 of the 713 superdelegates and still lose the nomination. remember clinton already has 469 , superdelegates backing her. how many does sanders have? just 31. that is daunting math. if you are in the sanders campaign and looking at all of that, what are clinton's biggest vulnerabilities? mark: the biggest problem the sanders campaign created for i

: fox news is america's election headquarters with an in-depth look at the superdelegates now pledged to support hillary clinton. she holds a nearly insurmountable lead over bernie sanders because of those superdelegates who are leading members of the democratic establishment. so why aren't democrats getting the same as republicans over there delegate selection process? more on that from washington. hi, peter. >> a big part of the platform is making sure everyone gets their fair share but voters are worried that party primary system isn't so fair to all candidates. since that party is made into superdelegates sort of like the delegates that voters sent to the convention in their states convention since those superdelegates are allowed to back whoever they want, even if it's not consistent with the will of voters. this is something that may or may not make a big difference in the end. >> the superdelegates have never mattered. in the end, if somebody is getting the nomination by winning states and winning the delegates in those states and the superdelegates vote the same way the pledged delegates have voted whic

seven contests narrowing the delegate gap with clinton and yet clinton still has an almost insurmountable lead with the so-called superdelegates who overwhelmingly favor her. can he overcome that? in eau claire, wisconsin, saturday, hillary clinton tried to make the case that bernie sanders just isn't democrat enough. >> that's kind of important if we're selecting somebody to be the democratic nominee. >> reporter: and yet sanders, the democratic socialist, is having none of it. >> it is just too late for the same old, same old establishment politics. >> reporter: he's been convincing voters of that beating clinton by huge margins in state after state, and that's helped him to close the gap among pledge delegates, the delegates earned by victories in primaries and caucuses. but the fix is in for clinton when you count the so-called superdelegates, the party insiders who have overwhelmingly pledged support for her. >> the superdelegates are going to have to make a very difficult decision. >> reporter: democrats came up with superdelegates after 1980 when ted kennedy challenged the incumbent president jimmy carter and hurt him a

this is really interesting. 15%, 1-5, 15% of the entire convention delegate pool is superdelegates. hillary clintons going to get 90 to 95% of those superdelegates. right away, sanders is behind massi massively. there's almost no way to catch up. in pledged delegates, probably hillary clinton will bin but she's not going to win by that much nationally. she'll have an edge but a one. it's superdelegates that will make it look like she has a large majority. >> she's the favorite. what about the fact these superdelegates, they can change their mind, right? >> they can, but they're very very unlikely to. these are elected members of the senate, party elite. house members. bill clinton is a new york superdelegate. i think we know how he's going to vote. >> what about the fact you have all these people who are now swi swinging. some people are swinging. what does it take to swing a delegate? what do you do? offer them a drink or bottle of wine? is that corruption? >> there's a debate about what you can really offer a delegate. having dinner with a candidate, that's not a problem. flying them to bermuda f

superdelegates? >> i have to tell you this, throughout 2008, both candidate obama as well as candidate hillary clinton hoarded superdelegates. >> how does that work, for viewers who don't follow this closely. >> it's a phone call. >> phone call, dinner. out to a play, go see "hamilton"? >> anderson, we have fine taste, but guess what, we're democrats. >> okay. >> there's no question that candidate obama went across america in 2006 and campaigned for just about everybody running for office. house, senate, democrats, et cetera. governors. bernie sanders has not done it. that's the case that hillary clinton made the other day. she said i've been a lifelong democrat, i've been helping raise money for the party, i've been helping to recruit candidates. she was back in 2003, she was pushing then-state senator barack obama. so she has a history in courting the kind of people who are so-called, you know, unpledged delegates to the convention. we're only 14% of the total 14.9%, so i better be precise. but senator sanders' people are courting after the fact, not before. >> we're just getting exit polls in that

if you take superdelegates out of the equation it is a tighter race between hillary clinton and senator sanders. fox news reporter dan springer is with me. dan, sanders team critical of the superdelegates because it puts them at a disadvantage but that is the system, right? >> that is the system. it is not going anywhere because democratic superdelegate system is being called poisonous, undemocrattic, even corrupt. that is by democrats. 470 superdelegates are supporting hillary clinton. compare that to 40 for bernie sanders. so far despite a big winning streak for sanders, not a single clinton supporter has jumped ship. sanders won seven of last eight nominating contests over the last month. over that pan he won 2/3 of pledged delegates. but in those same states he is down 25 to 1 in superdelegates. washington state for example, sanders trounced clinton getting 73% of the vote, but all nine pledged superdelegates, governor jay inchesly and both u.s. senators are backing hillary clinton. sanders supporters say it is simply wrong. >> it doesn't reflect the will of the people. it doesn't r

here, superdelegates, i can take this guy on. >> it's a message to primary voters. we think hillary clinton to take on donald trump. she's the one with the toughness and tenacity to do it. she's been calling him out since he launched his campaign. with respect to superdelegates. number one, solong as hillary clinton has a lead in pledged delegates, the superdelegates have never in history gone against the choice of the people, as reflected by who's leading in the pledged delegates. we would expect the superdelegates to do the same things they have done, which is ratify the selection of those who have the most pledged degates. secondly, in terms of electability, all those polls are meaningless now. the only person who has been tested and come out on the other end of republican attacks is hillary clinton. if bernie sanders went through a general election, those numbers would change in a heart beat. number three, the superdelegates are concerns about who is going to have a down ballot effect? this has the potengs to be a real wave election for democrats, especially if someone like ted cruz or

let's remember superdelegates have never overturned the will of the people. when clinton started in 2008 she had the majority of superdelegates. >> they switched to barack obama. >> couple of things. first of all, the fact that so many superdelegates have already come out in favor of hillary clinton has given her a big edge in this campaign. if it were even steven. >> let's put the numbers on the screen it looks overwhelming and lopsided. >> this has helped her. bernie is doing this awful thing about flipping. the very reason you said shouldn't make up their minds until the end that's why they are there. you know the republicans must just be -- >> they are wishing they had superdelegates. >> i'm impressed to be sitting at the same table. superdelegate. wow. superdelegate like batman. >> i need my cape. >> which campaigns are raising the rigging issue? clinton and trump. the front-runners. they want an endless discussion that no one will follow up with silly charges because they are scared of having a debate on tissues. i agree with ben. sanders needs to say all this stuff

and hillary clinton already has the support of four superdelegates. but today, both candidates are already looking ahead to bigger prizes further down the campaign trail. hillary clinton is getting a head start on maryland's april 26th primary, and its 95 available delegates with a rally at 2:30 today in baltimore. but she still has her eye on the next big contest in new york on april 19th. and bill clinton will be campaigning there for her at two events in new york city today. meanwhile, bernie sanders will wrap up his third straight day of campaigning in the empire state with a rally in coney island at 2:00 p.m. sanders is trailing hillary clinton by 18 points in a new primary poll released by emerson college. but those numbers are a big improvement for sanders who narrowed that margin from a 48-point gap in new york last month. now, the dems are duking it out for a whopping 247 delegates at stake in the new york primary. it's the second largest delegate payday on the primary calendar. which may explain why both candidates have been turning up the he

clinton is short of that. however, what the sanders campaign needs to do at that case, what they're up against is this. the superdelegate lead hillary clinton has right now doesn't mean everything. sanders needs to force their hand, needs to make them see something that's going to force them to go with him even if they want to go with her. what's generally agreed on, the first thing he has to do to make that happen, he has to win the pledged delegate, win the allocated delegates so he can save the superdelegates. the will of the people is being expressed here. in the primaries and caucuses, i've won more of these than hillary clinton. therefore, you have to go with me. and that's the problem right now. if you look at this category, if you look at this right now, i'll erase it so you can see him clearly. we have him down 246. this is after wisconsin. the good news for sanders is the state of washington, he won big there, it's not all allocated. when it's all allocated, that 246 is probably going to drop to 210. so he's down 210 in the allocated category. >> okay. >> keep that number in mind because we'll take a look here

this website, superdelegate list.com, they hope calls and letters will get delegates to switch sides from clintonback sanders. we spoke to one superdelegate that said he will stick with hillary no matter what. >> there is nothing bernie sanders can do would make me switch sides. i have an obligation as superdelegate, number one to reflect the will of the people in my congressional district. hillary clinton is doing very, very well there. reporter: this afternoon a superdelegate siding with sanders said the senator is late to the game in this effort to court the party's elites. now as to the question what difference the superdelegates are making, they are helping hillary clinton pad her lead right now. if you take them out of the equation completely, goes from almost 700 up on sanders to just 251 ahead but there are democratic strategists who think that is still enough of a lead to deliver her the nomination. >> the reality is that the superdelegates have never once voted opposite of what the pledge elected delegates out of the states were doing. so, it is, there have been plenty of candidates who

that means clinton still has a massive lead in both pledge and superdelegates. t's bring in msnbc's kasie hunt who is at the bernie sanders rally in albany. also with me, alex seitz-wald covering the clinton campaign. is there some belief in the clinton campaign that some superdelegates could switch over to the sanders campaign at the convention? >> reporter: this is all predicated on the idea that sanders would get more pledged delegates. the spokesperson tweeted that there is a 0% chance that clinton doesn't clinch the nomination by june. even if that doesn't happen, there is not much precedent for movement for superdelegates. in 2008 as barack obama was gaining momentum, only about 30 superdelegates switched from hillary clinton to his side, and most were african-american, they wanted to support the first potential black president. when you think about who these superdelegates are, party leaders, elected officials, these are exactly the type of partisan democrat that the sanders campaign was fighting against. he openly talks about how he's taking on the establ

joe johns, new york. >>> joining me is senior political xhin tcommentator, a y clinton supporter and superdelegate. thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> bernie sanders was at a massive rally in philadelphia wednesday night and really went after clinton. i want to listen for a moment and get your reaction to what he had to say. >> she has been saying lately that she thinks i am, quote/unquote, not qualified to be president. let me just say in response to secretary clinton, i don't believe that she is qualified if she is -- if she is through her super pac taking tens of millions of dollars in special interest loans. >> and he went on to say that voting for the war in iraq and supporting trade deals also disqualify her. clinton not qualified to be president, according to sanders. your reaction to that and what impact will this likely have going into the new york primary. >> i think it's really unfortunate that bernie uttered those words, rosemary. first, let's be very clear, hillary clinton has never said she doesn't believe bernie sanders is qualified to be president. what she ha

hillaryd to know if clinton could possibly beat bernie sanders without the help of any superdelegates44.p if clinton wins big tonight, it could bring her count as high as 1437, which is about 950 delegates short. even then, we have no real can based on she purely pledged delegates. she would need 65% of the remaining to pull that off. given the representation rules, that is pretty unlikely. assuming a new york win for clinton splits the remaining , she would need the help of 211 superdelegates to push her over the threshold. thanrs can convert more 500 of the 713 superdelegates and still lose the nomination. 469 backingady has her. has 31.only that is daunting math. if you are in the sanders campaign and looking at all of that, what are clinton's biggest vulnerabilities? mark: the biggest problem the had is arguing they will win with the support of superdelegates -- they have legitimized that notion. even if he pursue arms exceptionally well, she can win with superdelegates and they will be hard-pressed to complain that the superdelegates because -- her only vulnerability is there has

u now according to an associate press count clinton superdelegates total 1,930 for sanders 1,939 and need to win 30% to get nominations. so looks look a pipe -- >> one of the biggest union is supporting hillary clinton american federation of teachers and well moan to new yorkers going back many years. welcome with back to "good day new york." >> it is great to be -- and it's great to be with the two of you so thank you. >> we used to cover you all of the tile when you were president of the new teachers. americans were really toilings in hillary's corner. we went out to a bernie sanders event the other night, and a lot of teachers there. here in new york that were supporting bernie so seemed to be decent in ranks. >> they were p politically active so we had basically around the country it is about a three to four one split in terms of our membership. who is supporting hillary and bernie but at the end of the day, they will all come together because the stake ises are so high right now, an you can see between, i think you see in that it's really a fundamentally different direction for t

clinton. not counting the superdelegates.ates don't even vote until the convention day, tamron. so it's important for your viewers to know they can change their mind at any moment. 245 is the number that separates senator sanders from secretary clinton. and we are going all the way to the convention, tamron. we're going to do this thing. >> how convinced are you he can get some of these superdelegates who are party loyalists, who have had a relationship with the clintons, who had a relationship with the obama administration, and see her as a continuation of the obama administration, far more than senator sanders? how does he get the superdelegates who are essentially lined up on paper to be loyal for hillary clinton? >> well, all of the superdelegates are not pledged. there's still quite a few left out there, as you know. it would be my hope in the states he has won that the superdelegates will go along with the will of their people. and tamron, we keep talking about party. party affiliation is good. but what is most importan

a spokesman says the campaign plans to spend the summer trying to persuade clinton's superdelegates toip and join them. and new fox news polls just out showing the candidates locked in tight races in indiana and california. among indiana democrats clinton leading 46% to sanders 42%. but notice, that's within the poll's margin of error. it's very close and even closer in california. in fact, mrs. clinton has 48% support there while sanders has 46% again with the margin of error you could call it a tie. >>> adjunct professor of law at university of detroit murphy and the bernie sanders supporter. and danielle is an author of and political commentator and supports hillary clinton. thank you both for coming on. a lot of people are trying to put pressure on bernie sanders. you're nodding your head while i'm saying the democratic fund-raisers out there are hoping that he drops out to get behind hillary. but when you look at these numbers it's no wonder why. he doesn't want to because it is neck and neck in these two critical states of indiana and california. >> bernie is a better candidate.

clinton when you combine pledged delegates, superdelegates, clinton only needs 453 more to cinch it.nders needs over 1,100. that means he needs -- bernie sanders -- over 70% of the remaining delegates to get this nomination. that's basically impossible, gretchen. >> okay. then there's still the superdelegates. who knows. it stays interesting. scoop, good to see you. >>> for more on this, chris plant, syndicated radio talk show host. leslie marshall, also a syndicated radio talk show host. leslie, you are the democrat on the panel. let's talk about hillary and bernie sanders. because one thing that's for sure, there is this bernie momentum that's going on. do you feel now like there's a hillary momentum that's going to start a little bit more? >> i feel that we've had a hillary momentum all along, but i do feel that senator sanders needs to be credited for the race that he has won thus far and that he is far exceeded expectations, i think perhaps even his own and perhaps even his own campaign's expectations. but if you look at numbers -- i know a lot of people say superdelegates when

clinton by 12 points 56-44 notching his eighth win in the last nine nominating contests. but the victory didn't help the senator in the delegate race. when you include superdelegates, clinton actually netted four more delegates in wyoming than sanders. and as you can see here, secretary clinton still holds a commanding delegate lead overall, as the race moves on to next tuesday's pivotal primary in new york. clinton has to win about 33% of the remaining delegates to clinch the democratic nomination, while sanders would have to win about 67 >>> and we've got some new polling out of the next two delegate-rich states to vote on the democratic side. a new fox news poll out of new york has clinton up 16 points, 53% to 37%. pennsylvania is one of five states to vote one week after that. and clinton has a double digit lead there, as well. the fox news poll has her with the numbers 49% to 38%. meanwhile, after a week in which sanders aggressively questioned clinton's qualifications to be president, the senator appeared to walk back that line of attack and attempt to shift the focus to his opponent's judgment, instead. >> the point that i was making, which is absolutely co

wyoming, for example, for the democrats, bernie sanders beat hillary clinton by 12 points beneficiaryut because all of wyoming's superdelegates support clinton, she ended up with more delegates. so bernie won, but he also kind of lost. it's-- it's like playing monopoly against a child. you can spend the whole game methodically buying up property, but then, you come back from the bathroom, and the freaking kid just ate all of your hotels, and now you have to go to the hospital and explain why max has a property portfolio stuck in his ass, and why i'm playing monopoly against a four-year-old in the first place. now i have to explain all of this. and this is why you don't baby sit strangers. so normally, now, normally, on this, no one gives a ( bleep ) about this normally, but pause this race is so tight this year everyone is acting like this: >> it's a system rigged against people that go to voting booths. >> it's disenfranchisement. it's not one person, one vote. >> rules are no good when you don't get democracy. the rules are no good when they don't count your vote. >> trevor: why does it sound like donald trump is singing a

in fact, today in minnesota, a superdelegate switched from hillary clinton to bernie sanders. americans, even democrats, love winners. and if bernie sanders continues to get these victories, superdelegates are going to switch to him. now, if she's still favored, there's no question she's still favored. why? because the democrats want to go against their founder, thomas jefferson, who quite frankly argued for a primary like the republicans, which is rough and tumble and goes all the way till the end. they are very hamiltonian in their belief that only, only the insiders, only the establishment should have who gets to pick who their nominee is. >> no. david -- even if -- one last point, judge. >> mary anne, i want to give you the last word, absolutely. >> yeah. one last point here, even if there were no superdelegates, hillary clinton has 249 more pledged delegates than bernie sanders. ask ted cruz what it's like trying to catch up to trump. no, not the pledged delegates, they can't -- the fact is -- we don't have winner-take-all. we have proportional. the republicans have winner

superdelegates, do you agree? >> it's not only that, i will tell you, the answer is, yes. that hillary clinton is the candidate of the establishment. and she has many, many times superdelegates than we have. i'll tell you something also is of concern to me. we're going into tuesday, we're fighting hard, i think we have real shot to win on tuesday if there is a large voter turn out. here in new york state, you have voting system which makes it impossible for independents to primary, that makes it impossible for people to register on the day of the election which many states do. which is going to result in a lower voter turn out than i would like to see. but at the end of the day, because we are defeating trump by large number than secretary clinton in poll after poll and state poll, lot of these superdelegates are going to concludes that bernie sanders is the candidate what must not be united states. >> dickerson: thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. dickerson: now to the republican race. reince priebus joins us from party headquarters, welcome, mr. chairman. donald trump seems to ha

obama going into the convention have enough delegates without superdelegates, and hillary clinton -- >> superdelegates matter until the end. >> hillary clinton is going to go into the convention with the most pledged delegates. the person with the most pledged delegates should win. but i will give you this, i think both candidates, i think both candidates, their surrogates and their supporters, if in fact we're going to tackle donald trump and ted cruz need to tone it down. we need to work to bring the party together but i do believe comments like democratic core bringing up monica lewinsky are below the pale and i will not get in the mud with you or rosario or anybody else. i don't think we should do that. >> i got to leave it there. >> if brian is doing this online -- >> i got to leave it there. nomiki konst, bakari sellers, thank you so much. the candidates are on the stump and they'll have to answer a lot of interesting questions. on the left-hand side of the screen is john kasich campaigning at a diner in philadelphia. ted cruz on the right. where is this campaign rally? is this in indiana? in in