i'm going to start with you, senator coburn.e to us briefly if you will what it is you would like to see changed in the constitution. >> first of all, i want be to emphatically disagree with the way you said it. we're trying to restore the balance of power among the three branches which the congress has given away and now we have a fourth branch, the bureaucracy that tells americans what they'll do, how they'll do it. your characterization of a whole new constitution is -- >> it is a whole new constitution. you want amendments. you want to amend the constitution? >> we want to follow article 5 of the constitution which says you can have an amendments convention as long as you specifically state what areas you want to talk about when you have that. so we have three areaareas. one, we think there ought to be fiscal responsibility. the average millennial now is on the hook for $1.5 million over the next 50 years. we believe there ought to be term limits on our elected officials. the advantage of incumbency is unbelievable to defeat

they're saying what they're doing we don't like what coburn saying all day and here in manchester of course the f.t. has been attacked by tories from the platform because it's a cheerleader for the european union the editor lionel barber has got a civic award from the french government because of the work they've been doing promoting the european union which i think is an undemocratic useless incompetent expensive institution and i'm very glad we're leaving it's a japanese newspaper the f.t. anyway they've always been suspicious like german coburn as we said of the european union any suspicion that what are you hearing in the conference hall about some suspicions from some sections of the conservative body and the country that there's a creeping remain there is of reneging on the will of the british people going on well boris johnson speech brother a speech in the party conference try to deal with that head on because he's talked about the benefits of brags that we've got to start seeing the positives of bragg's at seventeen and a half million people in britain voted to leave your op

since our region and also from those two continents in the east of your affairs syria and coburn you can't close and this is us in canton stretching from eastern military and so this is a worst case scenario for ankara nightmare scenario and kyra has been thinking that it's desperately in need of preventing peace to happen so for me nothing can turn is the primary target for ankara and therefore and how could turkey do you think make a military move on afrin without russia's approval. most likely not and there apparently is some kind different tented if it were just understanding between moscow and ankara that afrin right now is going to be a separate case right now there russia has established a small. military mission in for him it's also important for russia to see that the african on quade controlled by kurds does not become a kind of american the americans don't appear there and so the russia would kind of try to keep the turks out of it for the time being and i think the un karrar agreed to that must work we are free and will be. surrounded to some extent but going in right now

i think he's factually correct, senator coburn is.s, at the very least, lacking character and the temperament that you want and expect in a president. by the same token, i think he's right where the republican base is right now. it's, in fact, jeff flake, the really decent, upstanding guy who's out of touch with the republican party and the conservative base. that's why my book is called "too dumb to fail." trumpism doesn't fail. it's winning and working right now and if you want to succeed in this political environment you would be better to sort of move in the donald trump populous direction and away from the jeff flake direction. >> except, to a point, can i just say, i mean the donald trump agenda, the balance they're trying to strike is an economic agenda that primarily benefits the upper income voters and the party and a cultural agenda aimed at the blue collar voters and culturally conservative voters in the party. he is not entirely delivered in the sense that the health care plan that they put forward would have pulled health

joining us now, john hart, former communications director for oklahoma republican senator tom coburnategies and don callaway, former missouri democratic representative. thank you both for being here today. >> thanks for having me. molly: here's essentially what corker said, it's way, way too early to decide whether to compete for the republican nomination. that's the type of thing people say before they casually make a trip to iowa and head off to new hampshire. [laughter] what do you think the chances are, john? >> well, i don't know. it's really going to depend on the state of the economy, james carville is still right, it's still the, quote, economy, stupid. if the economy's growing in 2020, i don't think trump will have a major challenge. it's going to depend on what happens in the midterms in 2018, and also the state of the world. if either of those go haywire, you could see a challenge. my former boss, tom coburn, challenged the establishment pick in 2004, and i think trump should welcome a challenge, because it would make him a better president, and if he loses, we'll get a be

big money coburn and president has thrown down a lot of boys that's how it is in the news culture in this country now that's where i come in. i mean it's still fun r t america i'll make sure you don't get railroaded you'll get the straight talk in the straight news. to me lead. all the world's a stage and all the news companies merely players but what kind of parties are into american playing artie america offers more artsy american personal lives in many ways the news landscape is just like this you know real news fake names good actors that act and in the end you could never hear on. so much parking all the world's a stage all the world's a stage all the world's a stage and we are definitely a player. would you have for breakfast yesterday why would. put those up faces your wife that's. why janine when that was your biggest fear when you're in a bit on a hay ride with no less time reading the book to see if you ever miss the things the best part about. exploring the topic that doesn't belong in the. now i did to do duty question more. feel. my passion tonio and this is america's la

david coburn he believes madrid's decision initially came from brussels as the e.u. looks to tell you its grip on its member states by newborn from chatting with present you i spoke with a couple of weeks ago the the european union have no intention of interfering in spanish affairs internal affairs i think they've now got the idea with the problems out taking part in spain that maybe it's for a good idea if he actually keypunch of intel little sales of the various countries because it's just a farce that many other countries in europe who have problems with the central administration spain doesn't govern itself anymore it's governed by the european union decisions are no longer made in madrid they're made in brussels maybe the city is the european union has brought this to a head and it's not just spain brain problems with the boxee in the front of the flood walls in belgium and various parts of europe there are problems people want to secede but because people don't want to be ruled by faceless bureaucracy in brussels they want to make their own decisions locally a

since our region and also from those two continents in the east of your affairs syria and coburn you can't close and this is us in canton stretching from eastern military and so this is a worst case scenario for our car our nightmare scenario kyra has been thinking that it's desperately in need of preventing peace to happen so the forney nothing count on is the primary target for ankara and therefore and how could turkey do you think make a military move on afrin without russia's approval. most likely not and there apparently is some kind different tented if it were just understanding between moscow and ankara that afrin right now is going to be a separate case right now there russia has established a small. military mission in for him it's also important for russia to see that the are free in encore a controlled by the kurds does not become a kind of american the americans don't appear there so that russia would kind of try to keep the turks out of it for the time being and i think the un karrar agreed to that must work we are free and will be. surrounded to some extent but going in

david coburn and he believes the push for independence to stem from a loss of power to brussels. i know but from chatting with present you i spoke with a couple of weeks ago the the european union have no intention of interfering in spanish affairs internal affairs i think they've now got the idea with the problems i was taking part in spain that maybe is for a good idea if they actually keep watch of intel the sales of the various companies because it's just the fact that many other countries in europe who have problems with the central administration spain doesn't govern themselves anymore is governed by the european union decisions alone get me to drink they're made possible maybe this is a good is the european union has brought this to a head it's not just speak they get sick bring problems with the boss see the fruits of the. the floodwalls in belgium and various bunch of europe but a lot of problems people want to secede but because people don't want to be ruled by faceless bureaucrats in brussels they want to make their own decisions locally and then the have a national go

david coburn he will push for independence times from a loss of power to brussels by new book from chatting with present you as for with a couple of weeks ago. the european union have no intention of interfering in spanish affairs internal affairs i think they've now got the idea with the problems i was taking part in spain that maybe is for a good idea to actually keep chipping terrible sanctions against this is just a farce to many other countries in europe problems with the sense of ministration spain doesn't govern themselves anymore is governed by the european union decisions a little bit me to drink they're made but maybe the city is the european union has brought this to a head it's not just speak they get sick bring problems with the boss see the scenes look. at the flood walls in belgium the various bunch of europe over there all these people want to secede. because people don't want to be ruled by a faceless bureaucracy bumping they want to make their own decisions locally and then the national government as well as the richest well the richer parts of spades to there that's why t

some reaction to all of this now this is story decision that was made from you keep any pain david coburn who joins us thanks very much for your time david for coming on to our say what's your reaction firstly to the catalan vote and their vote for independence. well it's very interesting in scotland we had a problem and we had a vault we had a plebiscite on this and we decided to remain british. obviously it would seem that there needs to be a proper. vote taken which is that which people do not refuse to take part in you have to make sure the whole population agree to that and we did and we have the results unfortunately the scottish nationalists from two to get the the idea that we decided to remain british so you know if there's going to be a referendum i have to make sure that all sides agree to it and that they agree to stay by the outcome that is very important i think. with regard to what's happening in spain just generally speaking for europe david where we saw that the cattle and parliament voted for independence we've seen that madrid is nice said we're going to assume control

a former member, tom coburn, has worked hard on this .this there are others picking up the mantle. as we talk about the tax package changes, the tax changes that will get this economy growing again, i wanted us to reflect on the opportunity we have right here that can pay for what we need to do to give the middle class a tax break and get our economy growing again. there are things identified, recommendations that can get at most of these $700 billion of wasted spending. for example, in the department of defense if it managed commissaries more effectively, there is a $2 billion a year opportunity there over the next five years. if the department of defense weapon acquisition program were more effective there is estimated that tens of billions of dollars over the next ten years could be saved in terms of purchasing the same level of equipment and machinery. if it just -- if the d.o.d., department of defense just simply completed an audit, we believe it would identify further opportunities for wise spending of our taxpayers' money. but since coming to the united states senate, i was

coburn this is what he said. no i think it's basically the european union people don't want to be ruled by a faceless bunch of people in washington d.c. thank you so thank you thank you thank you this is a much needed break that meeting in brussels the european union has created a lot of problems economically with the euro decision making being taken away in people's minds that people cannot get hold of the representatives by the scruff of the neck and throw them out and seventy five years so i think people are just taught me by central government and large european states they're not doing what was wanted to do and it's not just spain the same brain problems with the the front of the the floodwalls in belgium various parts of europe there are problems people want to secede. wealth around their push for independence catalonia has repeatedly face opposition from the trade as a quick recap. their argument only to those in charge in the council on government who are the protagonist in this challenge to occur existen

a conversation that is very large even the moment where boris johnson on the one hand and jeremy coburnon the other represent two very different futures for the u.k. one is one in which we take responsibility with jeremy tobin fool our imperial possed and for recent aggressions which are still causing bloodshed in hora. we go with boris johnson and this idea of sort of recreating some kind of post-imperial state . i think that's a fantasy of power from the us in many ways but it's certainly a very very dangerous fantasy for the u.k. and for the world and george very briefly if you would i mean what expect what reaction do you expect from a summit do you think anything will happen to boris very briefly if you can't. i think i mean the various theories on this i mean in many ways what he's doing is very much like what trump is doing you know he's saying outrageous things that are just grabbing the limelight back to himself over and over again and i think he maybe is taking a leaf out of the book i mean many commentators in the u.k. think that he's basically trying to get himself fired fro

david coburn says people are not just angry at madrid take a listen to i think it's basically the european union people don't want to be ruled by a faceless bunch of people in brussels the think it was decisions are being taken bers great things they don't like all those decisions are not made to madrid that may didn't in brussels european union has created a lot of problems economically with the euro decision making being taken away people's hands people cannot get hold of representatives by the scruff of the neck and throw them out on seventy five years so i think people are disheartened by central governments of large european states are not doing what they're supposed to do and it's not just. the same problems with the boxer you the front of the. flood walls in belgium in various parts of europe but are there problems people want to secede. ok we'll be back in ninety seconds with more global news leaving catalan to the side but this is a full news hour here in r.t. hope to see you in a minute. i . don't. know. probably. anyone any goal that resists the american design is if it were jus

anyway they've always been suspicious like german coburn as we said of the european union any suspicion that what are you hearing in the conference hall about some suspicions from some sections of the conservative body and the country that there's a creeping remain miller is of reneging on the will of the british people going on well boris johnson speech brother a speech in the party conference try to deal with that head on because he's talked about the benefits of brags that we've got to start seeing the positives of bragg's at seventeen and a half million people in britain voted to leave your opinion because they want to get their lives back that it won't brussels telling us what to do what do we can and can't pay our benefits to and it's a long lost foreign secretary has spoken up for those benefits and i've always yeah but i know david davies the bracks except i've seen him a lot at this conference i've known you for many years he says nothing's changing we are leaving the european union in march twenty nine thousand we're leaving the single market we're leaving the customs union an

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tom coburn is a former conservative senator. he said this to jonathan martin. we have a leader with a personality disorder. they are not going to abandon him. making the point about the trump base. one conversation about the president, you go out in america, he is getting his conservative judges and they think he is fighting on immigration. they think he is fighting on the issues they care about. tax cuts will be a key test. they think he is fighting for the middle guy. the guy he promised i will be your voice. >> i don't know if they think that. he is standing up for what i think about the national anthem. a lot of cultural issues are where the republican base feels more affinity to the president. the policy issues are sort of a stand in to say we want congress to be hit over the head. >> that's a smart point. a lot of adults don't trush washington to do anything anyway. that's an interesting point. >> these are not ivy league talking points. >> they are political smarts. she messaging to the people that he is trying to message to. they are receiving those. >>

he'll be raging about former senator tom coburn saying in "the new york times" today he has a personality disorder. we know that this bothers him personally. i think to the white house it's easy to dismiss this as the, you know, the grumbling of the establishment that he is supplanting. so it's easy to spin it publicly and i think they're used to everyone yelling at them and i think privately a lot of them know that a lot of criticisms of the president and of the people he's put around him are true. but, you know, they chosen to be there themselves and trying to power through. >> we have a poll about the knuckleheads running the show. this is the u-gov poll saying 87% say that donald trump says things that are untrue. that's if you add up everyone there who says all the time, often, sometimes. on republicans, it's really 63%. so, ron, you have a majority of republicans who answer the question, how often does donald trump say things that are untrue? you know, this very big group there, 47% saying sometimes. 11% saying often. they just accept that apparently. >> i think they accept it. i th

. >> former senator tom coburn, a critic of trump, said we have a leader who has a personality disorder. that's pretty strong quote. but he's done what he actually told the people he was going to do and they're not going to abandon him. ruth, again, back to you. i mean, it is -- it is like trump is running the republican party, perhaps into the ground but he's running it. he really is. >> well, he did tell the people who elected him that he alone could fix it, and i might have missed something, but i haven't seen anything quite fixed. >> that's true. >> quite the contrary, he's failed -- >> he's still got the 30-80. >> he's still got that. there's an interesting distinction between trump and trumpism. we were sitting here a few weeks ago and talking about trump cozying up to chuck and nancy. yes, he's had a lot of views that he's held for a long time but he also can -- >> that was a speed date. that was a speed date. >> it was never a marriage that was going to last, but he is much more flexible. trumpism is a different thing and bannon is really trying to cement trumpism and make sure

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. >> senator coburn and i had provision in the authorization bill that instructed the gao which has people with full clearance to do some analysis of the fighting of physical facilities whether we were efficiently utilizing them and the report occurred. do you view this as a possible ally in your work? >> i understand that the gao is working at the request of the direction of the oversight committees. there areic policies and procedures at the cia and of course the office of the intelligence dealing with the work of the gao. i worked with them in the past and my only concern that i have in this falls back into my lap is to reach out when they start work and do work. they make sure the work we've done and we have products that are useful and this would be inefficient i wouldn't want the gao to add to these efficiency items i understand your concern that what you are telling me is in certain a situations you woud view it as an ally of your office. one final question do you view checking on or repealing the integrity of thee analytical process is this your response of the? >> yes sir. >> i wa

district court judge max coburn observed in 2014, one need not be an expert in economics to take notice it was the trading of toxic residential mortgage backed securities between financial institutions that nearly brought down the banking system in 2008. the financial crisis blighted entire cities and communities, resulting in more than 13 million americans losing their homes between 2006 and 2014, an average of 850,000 per year. beyond the hard ship and stressed place odd families by the unlawful conduct in the housing market, the exponential rise in foreclosure placed sig can costs on communities across the nation. it undermined economic development and municipal revenue derek privated communities of public services and resulted in increases of violent crime in areas of significant foreclosure ctivity. it underscores the diffuse around systemic impacts of mortgage fore cle sures. in response to the cry, president obama anouned the creation of an investigative department to hold accountable those who broke the law, speed assistance to homeowners and turn the page on an era of recklessn

tom coburn the sub right now, rally. -- tom: bring this up right now, riley. , 1, 2,einhart knows thishe taylor rule. do rules work given says been -- given seven optional points versus discretion? greenspan liked discretion. vincent: my guys were greenspan and bernanke. i too far nathan and back in time. the biggest unidentified flying object in the taylor rule is the intercept, i.e., what do you think the real interest rate is? john taylor looking at the history of the greenspan fed said, g, a real equilibrium of around 2%? description of the short range. that is the taylor rule, 2% isn't probably the real equilibrium rate now. tom: go back to the taylor rule. here it is over here, to present idea. michelson rowley said this is baloney that neutral real rate is lower. needthe next fed chairman to adjust the prospect down to a weaker american growth? gdp?ker potential god unemployment -- maybe even and odd unemployment rate? nathan: i agree that that god u- maybe even and odd unemployment 2% is no real risk to the economy today. i agree that john taylor recognizes that. i've heard tha

david coburn who said boris johnson is inconsistent with his statements on the media boris johnson came out with a lot of nonsense as usual eloquent wind bagheri he said after a break to the b.b.c. we're rapidly and he breaks it down bias he praises the b.b.c. blames the russians only consistent thing about boris is his total inconsistency we have the right to watch as many. many channels as we can and we should be on as many channels as we can we should talk to the public to make up their minds what they believe and while the establishment mr johnson don't seem to want smaller parties who may have something extremely valid to say they don't want us on t.v. r.t. has always been very good at letting small parties like buying be able to speak meanwhile . on a similar theme with r.t. coming under increased pressure from washington which is urging a channel to register as a foreign agent in the u.s. russia has promised to retaliate with tit for tat measures if he is forced onto the list we spoke with the former russian ambassador to the u.s. on the issue that he will hawkin's tell me more a

truly, one my favorite .ongressman coming up excuse recover the senator from oklahoma tom coburn wille will get some perspective from the doctor. this is bloomberg. ♪ taylor: but get to the business flash. facilities management services giant tarmac according a couple of competitors for a total of about $2.4 billion. to schools ands stadiums. feel for state owned oil business is on track. the saturdays to nine -- the saudis denied sales could be delayed. aramco is being considered. that is your bloomberg business flash. francine: thank you. let's get on to catalonia. royce estimates by the catalan president puigdemont is a step toward the triggering of article relieved to the region's attorney being revoked. regions lead to the autonomy being revoked. if we back up a second, basically, spain has asked mr. puigdemont to say yes or no they declared independence last week, and is refused to do so. in his tone, you could say this is quite conciliatory. you could say that, but madrid will tell you the question was simple. yes or no, did you declare a republic. if you were to say, yes, i di