by the way, coffey county is also unique because it is a deep red county. it is a counties that donald trump won -- a county that donald trump won by an overwhelming margin. not a swing county in georgia. this is a deeply republican rural county where donald trump's allies were trying to show that he deserved to win the county by even more than he won it, i guess. >> do you remember -- i remember that it was a big trump county, but it seemed significant to fannie willis' investigation because there was no reason -- trump had won by such a sizable margin, there was no reason to look for fraud there. one, there was no evidence of it, two, doj didn't find any. this was one of the things that the u.s. attorney in georgia didn't -- hard to private a negative, didn't find that there wasn't any fraud. but tell me, do you have the origin story? i mean, was this offered up to the trump campaign, or is it your understanding that this was conceived by trump's supporters and surrogates? >> remember, at the time this was happening, we even in the media were getting all

it was sent to another lawyer inviting folks to come down to coffey county and do whatever it is they do. what does that establish, your honor? two things, one. what i have been saying since last week in myself reince motion and motion last night, i'll keep banging the drum on, this was not ms. powell. number one. number two, that this was authorized. it was authorized. i have asked for that. i have not asked for eight terabytes of discovery. there is a handful of documents. we have eight lawyers on this side. i'm sure they know how to attach a document to that email. in response to that email, like the letter i sent -- august 30, i heard squat from the state. so they sit here and say, your honor, that they are open and they are going to turn stuff over. i have been as clear as day about specifically what i'm entitled to. under the constitution of due process, ray versus merrill, independent of any discovery obligations they have. that is exculpatory information that establishes that ms. powell should not be in this case. they have it, your honor. i have a reason to believe they have

the defendants who were notly accus of crimes related to the alleged voting machine breach in coffey county. harrison floyd wants to be tried only with the other people accused of harassing elections worker ruby freeman. two of the remaining three codefendants have not yet filed any motions to sever their cases, but ray smith, a former lawyer for the trump campaign, has told the court he thinks the codefendants should all be tried in, quote, manageable groups, whatever that means. it is like the seating arrangement from hell only the stakes are of course astronomically higher. for now what we can say for sure is that kenneth chesebro and sidney powell look like they'll be the first cocop spirators in this case to face justice in a courtroom. the judge said today that he expects the jury in this case to be selected by november 3rd, which means lawyers could start presenting arguments to that jury well before the end of 2023, and we are getting a look at what that might be like as well. today lawyers for ms. powell and mr. chesebro were in court arguing what kind of evidence they'll be allowe

you have the coffey county scheme to access the voting equipment.e shakedown scheme to intimidate and threaten and coerce ruby freeman and shaye moss. so there's different pieces of this. so depending on how the defendants were grouped, you could probably cut down the overlap in your evidence, not eliminate it completely, but you could focus more on certain aspects of the conspiracy in let's say a trial of all those involved in the fraudulent elector scheme. you could focus more on different aspects in a trial involving all those involved in the coffey county scheme. and we've seen cases broken up. think about what we just had in d.c. with the oath keepers. there were more than a dozen tried, and the judge thought that was too many to have go to trial at once, so we broke afforded under the constitution. >> yeah, the only issue i see there is that kenneth chesebro and sidney powell are going to be tried together maybe as aurally as october 23rd and they're involved in this vast conspiracy. already the collation is breaking down. i know we're going t

powell's part in this is alleged to have been illegal hacking and voter fraud potentially in coffey county, the illegal accessing of data and chesebro and powell had never met each other and that he had never stepped foot in coffey county. the rico case, evidence against one is evidence against all and the defense is not admissible mere according to the state. it's really interesting. we got the first inside look into how exactly the judge would handle this case unlike other trump hearings and proceedings, the new york charges and the federal hearings and this was televised, adding to the drama. katelyn, this was expected to be a very busy day with arraignments, and as of yesterday, all 19 co-defendant his waived their arraignments and pled not guilty and it was whether or not these two defendants would have their cases severed. next thursday at 11:00 a.m., we are expecting to hear if this is a trial for two people or a trial for 19. another headline, nathan wade, the lead prosecutor who is working this case with fani willis saying the case will take up to four months and include 150 witne

, and whatever happened in coffey county it was authorize and so i asked for that specific evidence -- >>> so you are looking for a live pretrial hearing for kenneth chesebro and sidney powell who have the trial date scheduled, and the very beginning and what we have heard there in the beginning is that this is going forward and this judge has every intention of getting this to trial quickly for these two defendants, and they were even talking about the idea of doing jury selection over the weekend to get this before the jury very, very quickly, and then a lot of other, and not smaller, but side issues that were also discussed. >> but the headline is that both sides and the judge are saying get this done, because we are going to make the attempt to have the jury sworn by the deadline which is november 5th. so we could see testimony november 5th, and opening statements after they get a jury in place and sworn. this is fast. >> all of the parties are acting very much as if this is going to happen. it is really important what the judge said about the timing of the jury selection, because

accepting the allegations in the indictment as true, dealing with the computer systems down in coffey county, georgia. in our motion's mr. chesebro is not even alleged to have undertaken anything even remotely related to the coffey county conspiracy, which i'll call it. then there's a thinker alleged conspiracy and that third alleged conspiracy i'll call -- i don't want to necessarily use her name because of the circumstances, but the poll worker conspiracy, where there are allegations that certain individuals name in the indictment went and tried to apply some pressure tactics to a certain poll worker that i believe works here, lives here in fulton county. that is also a conspiracy that in no way, shape, or form involves mr. chesebro, and again, that's not my defense take on it. that's according to the allegations in the indictment. i understand that rico does provide flexibility. what i would argue to the court, of course rico does not overrule all of the rules and statutes and constitutional provisions that ensure that ms. chesebro not only have a speedy trial, which of course he's alread

then you've got the coffey county allegations. that's another bucket.nd then you have going after the election workers. that's another. so there really is a dividing line in terms of the subject matter of of the allegations, where the court could go with that, if that is what he chooses. but it really would be up to him ultimately at the end of the day, and i have no doubt that if he wanted to go down that road, that the -- that the defendants would go with him and agree to it because obviously they don't want to be all bunched in together either. and particularly they don't want to be with trump, right? >> how does it work, karen, if one witness on the stand -- do all the attorneys get to ask questions? >> yes, absolutely. if you say all 17 go to trial at once, you'll have 17 opening statements after you have the prosecution's opening statement if they choose to. they don't have to, but this is what they could choose to do. and then it the prosecution puts on a witness and does the direct examination. and you could have 17 defendant attorneys cross exa

seen with other defendants walking into the board of elections in rural coffey county in georgia and appearing to tamper with ballot markers and vote tabulation machines. he was accused trying to unlawfully breach voting systems after the 2020 election and obtain data at part of his deal he pleaded guilty to five misdemeanor counts of conspiracy with performance of election duties. gets 12 months probation per count, total five years probation. former president trump and remaining 17 defendants pleaded not guilty. guys? >> janai: a rico case. his guilty plea is a big deal nome for the fulton county d.a. for other 17 people charged. >> reporter: absolutely. this first plea deal could strengthen the fulton county case against others. a big win for her and major development in this racketeering case. watching closely to see if others follow suit and this further complicates matter for trump who incests he's done nothing wrong seeking another term in the white house. >> thank you. >>> tributes pouring in from both sides of the aisle for pioneering senator dianne feinstein. joining us now

no vote, one in particular, for example, a particular statute against the folks involved in the coffey county case. but there are other examples here, and i think in particular that had to weigh on them in deciding who to charge, but also how to charge them. >> that's interesting. because if you're looking at lindsey graham, for instance, 17 no votes, 13 yeses, flynn, only one no there, 20 yeses, michael flynn not charged in the final indictment. we actually are getting sound from senator lindsey graham reacting, and i want to take a listen to what he has to say. katie, i'll have you react on the other side. >> at the end of the day, nothing happened. what i did was consistent with my job as being united states senator, chairman of the judiciary committee, but it was just not me. three united states senators . we're opening up pandora's box. i think the system in this country is getting off the rails and we have to be careful not to use the legal system as a political tool. >> let me read for folks from this grand jury final report with respect to what they recommended the senator be charged

scott hall, one of the co-defendants, charged particularly in the coffey county voting data theft scheme a plea deal with prosecutors. >> scott hall is who we're seeing speaking? i believe. >> i believe that is who we're seeing. the reason we're seeing him on that screen, by the way, is that in fulton county superior court we have a zoom, there is a zoom system for pleas and other hearings. so if we are seeing him now, it's because we're able to take that zoom live. >> what can we assume is going on behind the scenes for where this plea deal came together? >> i think that scott hall was under pressure to plead given the complete overlap in charges between him and sidney powell. he is going to be hopefully a witness for the prosecution. but he has lots to say about that scheme. in fact, he is the person who was picked up from the airport for the purpose of assisting with the unlawful breach of election equipment, according to my very dog-eared copy of the indictment here. but the charges between he and powell are entirely overlapping, and so if he has reached a cooperation agreement with

to have accessed voter data information from voting machines in a particular county in georgia, coffey countyump, or one basket, october 23rd and i think a second basket months from now and maybe even a third from individuals trying to get into federal court. he might reserve them for a much later date. >> of course them may include the former president himself trying to get into federal court. also includes for sure we know mark meadows. his request to move his case to federal court. and a judge on friday rejected that request, but it may not be over. the 11th circuit court of appeals has this. you have noticed an order from the appeals court today. what does it mean? >> i do think it's a long road ahead potentially for the mark meadows litigation. there's no strong indication the # 11th circuit will uphold. today they asked for an additional briefing on a peculiar legal question that i don't think is going to give any support to the d.a., which is does this law really apply to former official. it does. i think she's going to tell them it does. >> ryan, thank you. see you soon. >> thank you.

and other election fraud charges related to her alleged role in the breach of voting systems in coffey countyday before another televised hearing on the fulton county case which will begin in just hours from now. ryan goodman is with me tonight. so, ryan, let's just start with this latest filing we're getting from sidney powell asking a judge to dismiss the charges. is there any chance she succeeds? >> she has a good argument, but she's not going to succeed at her motion to dismiss before there's any trial. her argument is, yes, we maybe accessed the voting data machines but we thought we had authorization. okay, raise that as your defense. >> but you can't get rid of the actual trial before that, okay. so, this comes in the context of this whole fight going on about when this is going to trial. and you've got obviously two people want to go fast and everybody else doesn't, it seems. president trump and mark meadows have waived their right to a speedy trial. in other words, trump wants to put this off as long as possible. fani willis says she's ready to go for all 19 and she's ready to go in