he and comey our bodies. mean, it's just preposterous that the attorney general, the point of the special counsel and appointed mueller, it's just outrageous. should he be investigated? yes. >> by the way, i think the department of justice, in relation to james comey, the department of justice -- the department of justice needs to find out if they can do the appropriate investigation with the grand jury with the leaking of a conversation that james comey have at the president of the united states. i would start with that and work backwards to the fact that he privet determined the outcome with the other investigations. let's start with the leak from the president of the united states. a statement that james comey had with the president of the united states. he leaked to a friend of his to leak to the press. inexcusable. that should be investigated. >> sean: important things. we will stay on it. no one else in the media apparently will touch it. it when we come back, president trump's plan to end daca. my one-

what i did is i was going to fire comey. my decision. in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. it's an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. >> that was lester holt's interview with the president, which may become an exhibit in the case against the president if the special prosecutor makes such a case. new reporting from "the wall street journal" tonight says donald trump's lawyers in the russia investigation have made a case to the special prosecutor, robert mueller, that the president did not commit obstruction of justice when he fired fbi director james comey. the journal reports, lawyers for donald trump have met several times with special counsel robert mueller in recent months and submitted memos arguing that the president didn't obstruct justice by firing former fbi chief james comey and calling into question mr. comey's reliability as a potential witness, people familiar with the matter said. one

they are trying to vilify comey and try to discredit comey.investigation keeps gathering steam. >> that must be very uncomfortable. >> i know, mark halpern, you are not a fan of the way james comey has conducted himself the past 18 to 24 months. is it short sided for the white house so ever mention james comey's name? bannon's comment that comey's firing was the worst political statement made in political history. aren't they helping james comey and why not let it go and let the investigation run its course? >> mueller is ae(ú;pmsuu1w0k&ú threat than comey but comey is reportedly working on a book and being investigated by the justice department and his account of what the president did and said will be part of what mueller looks at regarding object instruction of justice. i think picking fights with comey probably makes the president feel good. he feels he is on solid ground there. >> but firing comey made the president feel good. >> like a homer simpson move. >> it was a homer simpson move. >> he literally -- >> all i'm saying is comey is so

comey. that's the question that's the heart of the investigation being led by special counsel robert mueller. whether the president himself committed criminal obstruction of citizens. today we learned for the first time the president himself wrote down his reasons for firing comey in a letter he planned to send him on the day of the firing. a letter drafted with the help from white house aide be steven miller. that letter was never sent to comey he has frequently failed to restrict the president from his impulses found contents of this letter to be so problematic he convinced him not to send it. that letter is now reportedly in the hands of the special counsel robert muellerer. what i says, we don't know for sure. according to the "wall street journal," they wanted him to state that he, donald trump, was not personally under investigation. the administration official paraphrasing says you've you told us three times i'm not under investigation but you won't tell world it is and hampering the

they worry that he'll credit comey's testimony. it shows you just how nervous the white house is about the obstruction aspect of this case. >> eli were you surprised by that same moment and by this language, this wording that she was intent to get through? >> it's hard to be surprised by much these days, brian. but it was interesting. it's obvious that they were ready for that question and had prepared that oons. and ooing we've seen this for months now ever since the comey hearing drew all of our attention. this white house and this president have, you know, really had no problem attacking jim comey publicly because as jeremy says, that's what this is. in the court of public now this is a battle against jim comey. and so the attack is on a guy who leaked information to the press, who politicized this investigation during a political campaign who is politicizing this now. basically they want americans to look at jim comey and whatever he's saying and be skeptical. clearly the information that comey put out about his engage wants an

to prosecute comey?>> that's not the president's role but the department of justice and something they should look at. i'm not sure about that specifically, but i think if there's ever a moment where we feel like someone's broken the law, particularly if they're the head of the fbi, i think that's something that should be looked at. >> so sanders suggesting the leaking was illegal, but unless there was classified information in those documents, and there's no indication there was, would that be an indication for the dodge to look into. >> it's funny that jim comey is now being suggested should be investigated for mishandling classified information. it's one of the more ironic things in american politics currently. >> i mean, john, sanders was responding to comments bannon made in the interview room. let's watch a clip and then we'll talk about it. >> someone said to me you described the firing as james comey as the biggest mistake in political history. >> that would probably be too bombastic even for me.

is it limited only to the firing of james comey? my understanding would be that's not the only element of obstruction of justice on the table. >> the memo they submitted to object mueller involved the firing of james comey and why that, in their belief wasn't obstruction of justice. they're making the case the president has a constitutional authority as head of the executi executive branch to staff it however they want. they brought in case law and making the argument that a president can do this and there's really nothing to inhibit him and therefore the obstruction of justice charge is really invalid. but it went on in the second memo to discredit comey, saying he's not a reliable witness. it's clear that obstruction of justice was on the minds of president trump's lawyers that were interested in execute ling this part of the investigation. >> i'm interested in the second piece, the trying to dis -- discredit james comey. is it your reporting they're going to try in, the rosenstein memo or other evidence in their that comey is unt

comey is out of the way. what they did was they basically got rid of somebody they would have been able to politicize and attack in the way that donald trump likes to attack people, which is personally, attack them personally, morality and character, et cetera. got rid of comey, instead of potential pinata, uparmored battle tank coming after him in mueller who doesn't play politics, stays under the radar and immune from political attack. attacking only person they can politically. politically doesn't matter. legally it might. >> as often the case, given us poetry to work with. p pinata to bullet-proof hummer. navigating two former people. comey and bannon both gone because of the decisions of the president. >> and precisely the point that steve bannon was making, mueller has broad powers and reaching into things trump never wanted him to reach into. telling that bannon said biggest mistake in modern political history. in same interview talked about bush administration going into iraq. but at the same time tri

venting about comey. now we learn that he worked with steven miller on what has been described variously as a rant, justifying his decision to fire james comey. >> joyce, let me talk a little bit about what happened in this letter. that don mcgahn, the white house counsel ended up seeing and reportedly thought it was problematic. what stands out to you about this? >> the devil will be in the details with the letter. we don't know the precise language in the letter. it is sort of interesting that we have these reports, but we have only characterization. if the letter was limited to president trump having great difficulty with director comey because he wouldn't reveal publicly what he'd assured trump about privately, the fact that he wasn't under investigation, then we have a situation that's a little bit more difficult to convey knowledged the participants. but if the letter comes out and says, you know, the russia investigation is a madeup sort of abollics. it needs to be ended. you won't end it, so i'm f

rosenstein you'll recall was comey's boss. and the man running the russia investigation because attorney general jeff sessions recused himself. the white house based the letter the president actually sent to comey on rosenstein's memo. but "the new york times" reports they made one significant revision adding a point personally important to mr. trump. and that was a line in the middle of the four paragraph letter that the president sent to let comey know why he was being canned. >> while i greatly appreciate you informing me three separate occasions i was not under investigation, i nevertheless concur with the judgment of the justice department that you are not able to effectively lead the bureau. it's a point that's been important to the president. he stressed it again the next week in an interview with nbc's lester holt. >> we had a very nice dinner. and at that time he told me you are not under investigation which i knew anyway then during the phone call he said it. and then during another phone call he said it. he said it

comey has a long track record. i have been on the record for literally years saying comey isn't the kind of guy he claims to be. he know firsthand -- i know firsthand the investigation of the el paso office of the fbi, he covered that and his real criminality and corruption in that office, and it's yet to be resolved. lou: you mentione mention -- you mentioned hillary clinton. we are further watching an order to produce all of the relevant material at the state department that would pertain to her activity. there is a mounting it looks to me, a mounting case being built at least publicly that says, mrs. clinton is in serious jeopardy now of a full-on investigation and prosecution. >> there is an entire body of evidence that judicial watch uncover candidate through the freedom of information act litigation and depositions we have taken of people like cheryl mills and huma abedin and several others. all that is good and solid evidence even though it's been uncovered through a civil process. it's part of a universe of

comey. another outlined why mr. comey would make an unsuitable witness call him prone to exaggeration and unreliable in congressional testimony in the leak to the news immediate what. joining us now isnicolas, one of the reporters who broke to story. thank you for being here tonight. let's go through the legal arguments that the president's team is making as far as you know. is it limited only to the firing of james comey? because my understanding would be that's not the only element of obstruction of justice on the table. >> well the memo that was submitted to bob mueller involved just the firing of james comey and why that dpsh in their belief that wasn't obstruction of justice. they're making the case that the president has a constitutional authority as the head of the executive branch to staff the executive branch any quay he wants. they cited case law and making the argument essentially that a president can do this and there's really nothing to prohibit him and therefore the obstruction of justice charge is inv

and, you know, it seems like the comey -- the decision leads up to comey's firing were really important to this administration. it's the reason that we have bob mueller and it's the reason that there's a dark cloud from mueller over this white house. and that this is something that this white house really has had to confront and deal with. so we're trying to understand as much as we can about that. and it's not the easiest thing on the face of the earth. >> remember, no matter what happens in the world, no matter where the president goes he comes back to washington and comes back to this russia investigation. it is just not going away. hans nichols, michael schmidt, ashley parker, sarah westward and jonathan who is sticking around still, thank you. >>> the president's decision on daca is expected on tuesday. those voices urging him not to terminate the obama era program though are getting louder including key members of his own party and business leaders. is he going to listen? >>> and that decision is just the beginning of what could be a make or break month in washington. the debt lim

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t comey one, comey two, and comey three. they drafted this letter. the president showed up in the west wing on monday. having concluded he was going to fire comey, read this letter outloud and the white house counsel halted that as going out on its own, seeing a couple of red flags. >> and those red flags, the tone here, as you describe it from your sources, maggie, angry and meandering. that don mcgahn felt you cannot send this letter. >> it was repetitive, according to sources. it really was essentially, you know, the raw, undistilled thoughts of the president on james comey, a man with whom he had growing dissatisfaction and had been thinking of firing since the transition. there was an oblique reference into possible russian collusion where the president referenced and i'm paraphrasing this, but it was essentially, you have privately told me i'm not under investigation. the president was very frustrated that comey would not make that public. and so frustrated that even though his lawyer suggested this should not be in there, rod rosenstein, the d

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as the white house toys with an investigation of james comey. >> i think that's something that certainly should be looked at. >> tonight the latest on the russia investigation, including new reporting on what vladimir putin wanted from trump. >>> plus as the clinton book drops, hillary says she is convinced she knows what happened between trump and the races. >> it's pretty clear -- >> you're the puppet. >> the head of trump's so-called voter fraud commission caught red-handed. >> i said it appears that nonrecess dens may have tipped the results. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the white house once again went after fired fbi director james comey today as special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation continues to widen. comey who would likely serve as a key witness in a criminal obstruction of justice case against the president. and today for the second day in a row the white house press secretary argued from the podium that it was comey and not the president who broke the law. >> i think there's no secret comey by his own self-admis

there may be broader bookcases for comey in a special counsel. >> he is not a credible witness at this point given the fact that we are now unearthing documents that may prove the director was less than candid with congress. a source familiar with the russian investigation told "fox news" it is wide-ranging. one ankle is money-laundering through special counsel team has access to irs investigators who specialize in financial. david: catherine herridge thank you. we are coming right back with a lot more. please stay with us. texas governor greg abbott says houston trick every from harvey flooding will take years but he is grateful for the support from all over america and the world. >> we perceive prayers from people across the entire world and this has been a and it has galvanized the best of america. governor abbott proving to be a real partner for the president. we'll take a piston president trump strong leadership with ed rollins. president trump blasting derrig system after claims that james comey exonerated hillary clinton before even interview. david: the house speaker paul ryan

comey and the russia investigation. mr. miller and mr. kushner both told the president that weekend they were in favor of firing mr. comey. mr. trump ordered mr. miller to draft a letter and dictated his unfettered thoughts. several people who saw mr. miller's multipage draft described it as a skreed. "the new york times" is reporting tonight that robert mueller has obtained a copy of that. according to "the new york times" sources the white house counsel managed to prevent the president from sending it to comey. again believing the letter was problematic. the white house staff were alarmed that the president made the decision on the unprecedented action of firing the fbi director after consultant consulting only his daughter, his son-in-law, and steven miller who has no legal training and like the daughter and son-in-law has absolutely no experience that would earn him a senior position in any white house other than the most out of control most incompetent white house in history. he identified several passages in the trump/miller letter

james comey is no hero in this matter. when he went on television and before the house committee and made all of those allegations against hillary clinton without prosecuting her, without giving her a public forum to clear her name, he broke every rule in the department of justice book. that letter that rosenstein wrote suggesting that comey should be fired, that was true. at the same time that it wasn't the real reason in trump's mind. >> i would push you on that. i don't know that it was true. i would push you lawyer to lawyer to say it referenced legitimate policy concerns about jim comey, but whether tfrs tit true is matter that mueller is investigating. was it the whole story from the d.o.j. about a personnel decision or was it citing potential legitimate criticisms in concert with a monday oval office meeting with a president who said i'm firing him for other reasons, now give me a cover story. >> and he could have fired him much sooner. if that was true, that would have happened before trump got to the white house?

there has been leaking by comey. and virtually everybody agrees to that. so we'll have to see. i can say that the people that have been hired are all hillary clinton hillary clintsupporters. not quite. out of 13, about 8 have made donations to democratic candidates and about 5 did make contributions to hillary clinton totaling $54,000 altogether. but the real question is whether campaign contributions have typically been evidence of bias. doj regulations say no and they don't prohibit mueller from discriminating against people, in other words, he has to include people, regardless of their past political processes or views. donation history is not the issue. now, there's a claim that people on mueller's team work for hillary clinton and that is completely false. one did work as a lawyer for the clinton foundation at a law firm. and another has represented, we should note, a former hillary clinton aide, who helped manage the private e-mail server. trump defenders also say conflict of interest rules would bar mueller fr

multi-page letter enumerated trump's long-simmering complaints with comey, including comey was unwilling to say personally trump was not under investigation in the fbi inquiry into the russian meddleing in the 2016 election t. letter quote did not dwell on russia. also today, president trump responded to that washington post report last night that he may be on a collision course with his new chief of staff, according to "post," trump chafes at some of john kelly's moves to restrict access to him. he dubbed him the church lady because they considered him strict and morally superior. we have a lot to get to. joining me chief white house correspondent halle jackson at the white house t. washington post ashley parker, matt welch. matt, you have this story in the washington post again the "post" and the "times" reporting on this letter the letter that was not sent detailing the president's ratiall rational fo james comey. how much was this original letter aimed at comey and his investigation of trump and trump's world? was it a passing reference, do we know? was it more detailed than that? ho

so he should never have cold james comey that -- james comey should never have told donald trump that he wasn't a subject of the investigation. that's an inappropriate conversation between the fbi director and the president. so there may very well have been a good reason to fire james comey but that may not have been the reason that trump used to fire -- >> what's interesting is you have donald trump today, sort of after some communications with chuck glassily, one of the republicans on the judiciary committee, then he tweets out another accusation of jim comey saying he cleared hillary clinton at the wrong time in the investigation sort of reracking this hillary clinton based pretext for him getting fired. donald trump saying he had russia on his mind but going back to the idea saying that there was so something in the way that comey hired clinton that got him fired. is it so muddled? >> this is a classic move by trump to try to deflect and point the blame some place else. but special agent mueller has this ace team of some of the nation's best prosecutors and law enforcement agents.

she is still sporting a frown about comey. >> everyone is mad about comey.te house has a real benefit by saying earlier today sarah huckabee sanders said this is not the president's role. this is the justice department's role. they have surrogates or they have ways, outside counsel to be able to comment on those types of things. if all those points have been made contemporaneously with the fiery, it would hold more water. right now i think it looks thin because it's in reaction to the bannon interview and she's being asked about in the briefing room. they have somewhat of good stuff going on at the white house right now that i think there's ways to not talk about it. he doesn't always work in your favor. the justice department has come the conclusion under the trump administration that lois lerner was not culpable. there wasn't evidence to bring a case against her. keep it out of the white house and let outside counsel handle it. >> hillary is still very passionate about what happened and seems quite upset with james comey. deservedly so. both sides not happ

the white house once again went after fired fbi director james comey today as special counsel robert mueller's russia investigation continues to widen. comey who would likely serve as a key witness in a criminal obstruction of justice case against the president. and today for the second day in a row the white house press secretary argued from the podium that it was comey and not the president who broke the law. >> i think there's no secret comey by his own self-admission leaked privileged government information weeks before president trump fired him, comey testified that an fbi act engaged in the same practice, they'd face serious repercussions. i think he set his own stage for himself on that front. his actions were improper and likely could have been illegal. >> would the president encourage the doj to prosecute comey? >> that's not the president's role, that's the job of department of justice, something they should certainly look at. >> that is something you'd like to see? >> i'm not sure about that specifically but if they're ever a moment we feel someone's broken the law, partic

his politics are the politics of what's good for jim comey.e're learning about this man who views himself as the boy scout of ethics is that really when you look at his statements all around this hillary clinton controversy there's all types of deception. here's what bothers me the most, judge, you're the lawyer, i'm not, no grand jury, no subpoenas, hillary clinton is never put under oath. he clearly got either an indication from the white house or in his own mind that hillary clinton should basically get a pardon without really an investigation. and to me that is so disgusting, because there's no question she broke laws. >> jeanine: well, there's no question she broke laws. just so you know, i want to be clear on one thing, matt, you don't have to put her under oath. she lies to an fbi agent like martha stewart. she lied, but they didn't do anything anyway. all right, tammy, there's this guy that says this -- this is his response to comey's drafting this letter. this may come -- or as a shock to grassley, graham and trump, but judges sometim

if comey won't show up on his own, senator graham says he will get tough. eight people died in a florida nursing home. a move to save others in danger. a trip to the florida keys for a look at the long road to recovery. after hurricane irma. i am trace gallagher in for shepard smith. president trump defending his decision to work with democrats on immigration issues after some of his supporters said the president seemed to be putting aside the fight over the border wall. at the white house earlier this afternoon, president trump promised the wall will be funded. we will play out his full, and in moments. house minority leader nancy pelosi and senate minority leader chuck schumer had dinner last night with president trump. they say he agreed to protect thousands of dreamers from deportation. they are the undocumented immigrants whose parents brought them to this country. pelosi and schumer said both sides agreed to work out a border security package that would not include the wall. iowa republican congressman steve king says it seems president trump is keepi

this is a battle against comey.ttack on a guy who leaked information to the press and politicized this investigation during a political campaign, whose poll lit siizing this now. they want americans to be skeptical clearly the information that comey put out about his engagements and meetings with the president, the white house that he put out through a friend to the press, that was not close fiassified information. it falls apart when you poke at the argument. they are engaged in a p.r. battle and comey certainly in the context of this investigation is the top target. >> jeremy, arguably, this borrows from the bannon kind of anti institutional presidency. this president and those around him have decided just not to be that in to comey to be in the his image of resume in washington. >> yeah, i thought bannon's response during the "60 minutes "interview was concerning because he said this was a political mistake or big mistake. that in someways is under playing it and deliberately so. not just a political mistake or m

but also, don, his handling of james comey and the firing of james comey and the interactions the presidenthad in the oval office with russians in which he said the firing of james comey could relieve pressure on him from this fbi investigation. now, there are a number of signs, don, that this investigation that mueller has is now focusing a lot on the circumstances around james comey's firing. one instance is that there are two senior fbi officials who may have firsthand knowledge of exactly what happened around the comey firing, but the justice department is preventing them from being interviewed on capitol hill by the senate judiciary committee because of the concerns about the special counsel's office that it could interfere with their investigation. now, earlier today i asked senator chuck grassley of the judiciary committee chairman about that issue. he said he's prepared to subpoena them. >> what about the fbi officials? >> we've got sums at the senate counsel office. i'm going to have to when we get done there, i'm going to have to consult with senator feinstein. >> so a real sign t

two republicans are coming after comey hard saying, quote, conclusion first, fact-gathering second.t's no way to run an investigation. the president wasted no time responding to new reports about former fbi director james comey's handling of the hillary clinton e-mail investigation. in an early morning tweet, trump wrote looks like comey exonerated hillary clinton long before the investigation was over and so much more. a rigged system. this comes after senator chuck grassley, who heads the senate judiciary committee, along with fellow senator lindsey graham, claimed comey drafted the statement of exoneration for clinton before the investigation into her e-mails was ever completed. grassley and graham say comey's draft was prepared in may 2016, before he interviewed clinton's top aides. comey only publicly announced the fbi would not pursue charges against clinton in july of last year. >> no charges are appropriate in this case. >> the two senators say their claim is based on interview transcripts with comey's aide. this would be the first time republicans have any teeth to an argum

elizabeth comey joins me now. how did this happen? >> reporter: anderson as you said there are so many questions here tonight in hollywood, florida. how was this allowed to go on for so long? the call for help came in at 3:00 wednesday morning, an elderly resident at the florida nursing home having heart attack. >> as we arrived we saw there was a number of people in rep story distress. >> three people found dead in the nursing home, firefighter mo five more died after they were evacuated to a hospital. the cause of death still under investigation. potential ac units were being used but the stipulafacility wa excessively hot according to authorities. >> once we determined that the facilities were extremely hot we made the decision to evacuate all the patient. >> reporter: this blue tent directed to evacuating residence, 158 patients some critically in need of care. they were transported to local hospitals. >> most of the patience have been treated for respiratory distress. >> reporter: police declining to say how hot it was in the nur

, which comey refused to provide. >> president trump threatening the former fbi director, james comeying a tweet, and i'm quoting the president now -- "james comey better hope that there are no 'tapes' of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press." >> seth: so comey refused to pledge loyalty to trump, trump fired him, and now trump is threatening him with secret recordings of their conversations. now everyone wants to know if these tapes are real. and i can you, they are. in fact, we got our hands on the tape of trump and comey's conversation and i cannot stress enough this is real. we definitely did not cut together preexisting statements made by trump and comey. this is the actual recording of their conversation. >> welcome to the white house. >> thank you. >> if it's possible would you let me know am i under investigation? >> i can't answer that question. >> hey, i'm president. can you believe it? >> it makes me mildly nauseous. [ laughter ] >> seth: so to recap, the president is literally threatening the former fbi director for his perceived disloyalty and admitting

i fired this crazy comey. so he was bragging that he was able to or he thought he would be able to shut down the russia investigation. so i agree, trump was transparent. but in that transparency lies the very case that far from there being no connection between donald trump and russia, there were multiple connections and the president was trying to wish these away. he may be the architect of his own downfall. >> what about the tidbits we're finding out about why he fired james comey? do you think they help make the case for or against the obstruction of justice? >> the issue at this point is we don't know the content of the draft. we know that it was written by a hard right adviser steven miller after trump consulted with three people. miller, daughter ivanka, and son-in-law jared kushner. if the letter says i'm getting rid of james comey because he would not give me assurances that i would not be investigated, then yeah you have an obstruction of justice case. but we don't know. we need to look precisely at w

>> he is looking forward at that juncture. >> i just can't believe that you are even defending comey, i will be quite honest, he is a man who has leaked memos over to his best friend to lead to the media, he is a political chameleon, he is the one that loretta lynch said well, let's not call this an investigation, let's call it a matter, if you know the history of james comey, you would understand that he is only trying to save his political skin, and it is about his image, it wasn't about serving the fbi in serving this country and an honorable way, so i do think that when you look at his record at his history, he has made one mistake after the other, and he has had its this abuse of power, and it is a clear reason why comey needed to be fired, so i really find it almost indefensible to basically be out there defending james comey. >> well, i think that what is going on right now is -- -- >> at a certain time, they were very critical of comey, and now they remain silent? knowing that they have reached this conclusion? >> no, i agree that he has displeased both sides, mercedes, but i

she explained why comey should face charges. >> comey leaked information before president trump fireds actions likely were illegal. >> would the white house encourage the d.o.j. to persecute comey? >> i'm not sure about that specifically. if there's a moment when we feel someone has broken the law, particularly if they're the head of the fbi, that's something that should be looked at. >> joining us in los angeles, la matthew libman and john phillips. this is the second day in a row the white house has gone after comey, questioning his credibility and character. connect the dots here. what does this say to you about the special counsel robert mueller, particularly the obstruction of justice. >> if they weren't afraid of comey, they wouldn't keep talking about him. they're going after obstruction of justice and charges. pau because of the flight they were on when donald trump jr. came out and said the meeting was about adoption and wasn't about adopti adoption. and donald trump helped him with that statement. what was that meeting about and was donald trump trying to cover up what that