conservative libertarian republican. i believe in individual rights, the importance of privacy as well. but i am very fiscally conservative, if you will. i don' t think we should be spending money we don' t have. we should be balancing the budget and concord and ndc the same way we do at home. josh: is that talking about the nation' s house in order? rep. tucker: that is the big the one thing driving everyone, the cost of government. the government. whether it is an efficient mode t. but we have to start somewhere. you cannot continue to spend if we can do it here in concord, i know we can do it ndc josh: you are running against a incumbent who is announced he is working for the election -- he is dealing with his debacle, term it. would you be running if he was not facing that? rep. tucker: i think it is important that we put up a candidate for the seat that can beat carol shea-porter. i believe i am the one. josh: are you concerned about the issues that tail him, the incumbent? he has been washington for a while. i know

we have the democrats, progressive is, republicans, conservatives, libertarians. maybe we just need a parliamentary type thing where every party gets their chance for four years, and if you don't like what they do, you vote them out. guest: that would require a wholesale restructuring of the constitution. i think the founders put gridlock in the system as a feature. the founders wanted washington to do as little as possible, and made it extremely difficult to get anything done. yes, it is supposed to be difficult. the problems are republicans have not negotiated well with the president, and they have not with the president. structured a government shutdown, the republicans came back. they exposed the a lot of republicans had been campaigning on ted cruz's rhetoric, but did not have his principles and values behind him. they wanted to do what he said. designed to fight to do it, they pulled it. you cannot break promises. host: ted cruz has been a frequent guest at your red state gathering. why have you come out in favor of the establishment or conservatives rallyin

>> well, i consider myself more -- i will not say i'm a libertarian, traditional republican, more conservative with limited government and power in the hands of the people, where it constitutionally belongs. there are supporters of that philosophy in this area. we have a pretty good network of people. we definitely have volunteers who are raring to go. >> does it make a difference, since this is presidential election and there may be more people out in the primaries than normally? >> i'm not sure. probably. there is definitely a lot more interest in politics. one thing we're run intoing a little bit right now, with all the interest and focus on the a lot of people out walking, a lot of people are getting numerous phone calls and door knocking that, is something after the caucus, i think we can step up our efforts more and not be so congested. >> what are your thoughts on the caucus and how well attended it will be? >> you know, i hear all kinds of different stories out there. it was 7% in 2012 and so they're hoping for much higher turnout. 10% is what they think might, but i've been hearing so

republicans outpacing democrats. >> we're conservatives, libertarians, we're seeing evangelicals, we're seeing reagan democrats all ting. >> participation was up 57% on the republican side compared to 2008, democratic turnout dropped 47.4% compared to eight years ago. gop turnout on saturday was up 71.1% over the 2008 primary. in nevada, turnout dropped off from 20078 levels. that caused harry reid to call a news conference. >> no one ever expected this one to match that. the state has been through a lot. and we're relieved that the economy is better than it was eight years ago. >> on the way to nevada, marco rubio held a rally in franklin, tennessee, the crowd was so large, more than 4,000 showed up. the event was moved outside. rubio predicted enthusiastic turnout tomorrow night in nev a nevada. >> it's a place i'm familiar with, i have a lot of family here, we're going to do well here. >> donald trump says his unorthodoxed campaign is capable of expanding the traditional gop electoral map. >> i'll win michigan which no one else can think about winning, i'll win new york. i think i have a good chance of winning n

conservative. >> evan: you self-describe as a libertarian republican. >> thomas: yes. and i was a gay man living through the '80s, waiting for the president to say the word aids. you know, and it was a dark, dark time in many ways. and i was always caught between two fires. because i would argue with my very politicized gay friends, you know, who would romance fidel castro. and i would say, oh my god. you know, go, you know, dress up like carmen miranda on friday night and you're going to be in a labor camp on monday morning. please. and i was all for reagan pushing on the soviet union. and i think he did a tremendous amount for human freedom. but he had limitations and he had flaws and missteps and this strange reverence for him is something that i don't find palatable. and something that any novelist writing about history -- i mean, the word reverential, if you apply it to a novel, you know it's going to be an awful book. >> evan: well you can't fall in love with your character, right. >> thomas: and on the other hand you have to be, i think, open enough to people, r

conservative religious community. but you still think he can thrive here. is he counting on some are the libertarian republicans his way? >> counting on libertarians, those who are conservatives, not necessarily religious. those who believe in the second amendment, pro-life and those who want to elect someone with character, a constitutional, consistent constitutional conservative and shown leadership in the senate. ted fills every one of those bills. >> interesting quote from ted cruz today comparing himself with bernie sanders saying that voters are, "gosh, ted, you sound exactly like bernie, all big money and lobbyists and construction." that's right it is. washington is corrupt. an area where ted cruz and bernie sanders have overlap? >> all of these candidate will say there's corruption in washington and the government's too big. especially in a republican primary. all whining the government's too big but who's willing to do something about it? that's senator ted cruz, and donald trump underlined they hate him in washington, d.c. because he will stand up to the washington cartel. what the campaign's about.

. >> we saw a conservative, evangelical, libertarians, all standing together saying what on earth are we doing. >> several republicans shifted base from iowa to new hampshire , including marco rubio who arrived bolstered by a strong third place showing. >> we need to unify the conservative movement. i can do that better than anyone else. we need to grow it. we need to be heller clinton and bernie sanders. i guess the best chance to do that. >> sen. cruz mentioned marco rubio and donald trump, but his toughest words today were for president obama. >> the first thing i intend to do is resend every single illegal and unconstitutional >> and by my count, that was the first of about 20 promises. we will hear a few more in 6:00 p.m. ed: donald trump will be campaigning in new hampshire after his second place finish in iowa. he was radio file on twitter for hours, and that he tweeted just before noon today, my experience in iowa was a great one. i started out with all the experts saying i could not do well there, and as it up in second place, nice. he followed that by tweeting because i was told i cannot do well, i did not

. >> many republicans under 40 fiscally conservative and lean socially libertarian compared to the older over 40 crowd. is there room in the gop for this younger than 40 crowd when there's a strong contrast on social issues? >> there should be room for them because, you know, one of the reasons that i've joined this race is because as a surgeon i was very concerned about the next generation and the welfare. now, we look at how our fiscal policies are affecting young people, the millennials and the next generation, we're talking $19 trillion. thomas jefferson said it is immoral to pass debt to the next generation. if you tried to pay off $19 trillion at $10 million a day, 365 days a year, it would take you over 5,000 years. so we're not talking about the next generation, we are talking about generations as far as the eye can see. and that's the good news because, in fact, the fiscal gap which is all the unfunded liabilities, medicare, medicaid governmental programs, agencies, versus the money we have coming in from taxes and other revenue sources, should be even if we're fiscally responsi

. >> many republicans under 40 fiscally conservative and lean socially libertarian compared to the older over 40 crowd. is there room in the gop for this younger than 40 crowd when there's a strong contrast on social issues? >> there should be room for them because, you know, one of the reasons that i've joined this race is because as a surgeon i was very concerned about the next generation and the welfare. now, we look at how our fiscal policies are affecting young people, the millennials and the next generation, we're talking $19 trillion. thomas jefferson said it is immoral to pass debt to the next generation. if you tried to pay off $19 trillion at $10 million a day, 365 days a year, it would take you over 5,000 years. so we're not talking about the next generation, we are talking about generations as far as the eye can see. and that's the good news because, in fact, the fiscal gap which is all the unfunded liabilities, medicare, medicaid, social security, all the governmental programs, agencies, versus the money we have coming in from taxes and other revenue sources, should be even

. >> many republicans under 40 fiscally conservative and lean socially libertarian compared to the older over 40 crowd. is there room in the gop for this younger than 40 crowd when there's a strong contrast on social issues? >> there should be room for them because, you know, one of the reasons that i've joined this race is because as a surgeon i was very concerned about the next generation and the welfare. now, we look at how our fiscal policies are affecting young people, the millennials and the next generation, we're talking $19 trillion. thomas jefferson said it is immoral to pass debt to the next generation. if you tried to pay off $19 trillion at $10 million a day, 365 days a year, it would take you over 5,000 years. so we're not talking about the next generation, we are talking about generations as far as the eye can see. and that's the good news because, in fact, the fiscal gap which is all the unfunded liabilities, medicare, medicaid, social security, all the governmental programs, agencies, versus the money we have coming in from taxes and other revenue sources, should be even

we have the democrats, progressive is, republicans, conservatives, libertarians.be we just need a parliamentary type thing where every party gets their chance for four years, and if you don't like what they do, you vote them out. guest: that would require a wholesale restructuring of the constitution. i think the founders put gridlock in the system as a feature. the founders wanted washington to do as little as possible, and made it extremely difficult to get anything done. yes, it is supposed to be difficult. the problems are republicans have not negotiated well with the president, and they have not with the president. structured a government shutdown, the republicans came back. they exposed the a lot of republicans had been campaigning on ted cruz's rhetoric, but did not have his principles and values behind him. they wanted to do what he said. designed to fight to do it, they pulled it. you cannot break promises. host: ted cruz has been a frequent guest at your red state gathering. why have you come out in favor of the establishment or conservatives rallying ar

. >> we're conservatives, libertarians, we're seeing evangelicals, we're seeing reagan democrats all uniting. >> participation was up 57% on the republican side compared to 2008, democratic turnout dropped 47.4% compared to eight years ago. gop turnout on saturday was up 71.1% over the 2008 primary. in nevada, turnout dropped off from 20078 levels. that caused harry reid to call a news conference. >> no one ever expected this one to match that. the state has been through a lot. and we're relieved that the economy is better than it was eight years ago. >> on the way to nevada, marco rubio held a rally in franklin, tennessee, the crowd was so large, more than 4,000 showed up. the event was moved outside. rubio predicted enthusiastic turnout tomorrow night in nev a nevada. >> it's a place i'm familiar with, i have a lot of family here, we're going to do well here. >> donald trump says his unorthodoxed campaign is capable of expanding the traditional gop electoral map. >> i'll win michigan which no one else can think about winning, i'll win new york. i think i have a good chance of winning new york, new york state, if i win that, the electio

republican side, while kid cruz has a win, adding another may not be easy. >> he'll have more of a challenge, more libertarian. a lot less socially and religiously conservative. >> it's more establishment candidates such as marco rubio, who could pull out another surprise showing in new hampshire. >> i can take our message to those that have not voted before. >> he's squaring off against three governors who spent more time here. >> as more donald trump, he has a wide lead. what now, after iowa. >> do we think air will go out of his balloon. >> that's the concern. second or third-placed finish, other candidates will be emboldened to go after him more aggressively. >> from both sides, the next week is critical. some candidates weeded out. others propelled forward. donald trump told supporters it's okay if he finishes in second place. but he is looking for a victory here, as are the other candidates, stumping hard in this state. >> lisa stark in new hampshire. >>> today republicans in the house tried to do away with the affordable care act. as expected, the measure failed to gain support of two-thirds of the house, the final tally was 241 in favour of the overr

libertarian, conservative, moderate on social issues. i would have to double check. if memory serves, only about 22% of new hampshire republicans would consider themselves conservative evangelicals as opposed to the turnout tonight, 62% here in iowa. stacey: thank you. we need to check in with todd, who is with the hillary clinton campaign. todd: hillary clinton just left. we are told she is on her way to the airport. she is going to fly to new hampshire overnight and start this campaign all over again there. she declared herself the winner, as we all know, before a winner has been declared. she says that just means that this race is going to contie into the rest of the primary states. we talked to a number of people as they were leaving and we ask what does it mean that she has declared herself a winner? they think it is a good sign. even if it is just a few fractions of a percent, a win is a win and they are going to take this all the way to new hampshire. of iowa to support her in her bid as it continues. we will have more coming up a little bit later. steve: we want to go right now to a piece of sound from martin o'malley,

conservatives and evangelical and libertarians, young people, and reagan democrats, especially, especially reagan democrats, blue collar working class voters of democratic party has abandoned. if republicans are going to win in november 2016 and we have to win for the sake of our kids and our grandkids, if we're going to the reagan democrats. and to do so, we must stand unequivocally against amnesty. [ cheering ] we cannot win by nominating a candidate with same policy on amnesty as hillary clinton. [ cheering ] we need to be unequivocally against obamacare. kweek not winner bhi nominating a candidate with same policy on obamacare as bernie sanders. more neils. we don't need more can pit lags and surrender to harry reid and nancy pelosi and barack obama. we need a proven principled leader who stands with the people. we want ted, we want ted, we want ted, we want ted. >> we must-- [ cheering ] >> we must defend the constitution. religious liberty. and always defend the second amendment right to keep and bear arms. we need supreme court justice who will faithfully apply the constitution. and because of tonight, the voters will have a clear choice. we're here today because of each and every

conservatives, libertarians, young people, and reagan democrats, and especially, especially, especially reagan democrats, the blue collar, working class voters who the democratic party has abandoned. if the republicans are going to win in november 2016, and we have to win for the sake of our going to win, we have to welcome home the reagan democrats. , and to do so, we must stand unequivocally. we cannot win by nominating a candidate with the same pollty on amnesty as hillary clinton. against obama care. [ cheers ] we cannot win by nominating a candidate with the same policy and for pete's sake, we don't need more deals. we don't need more capitulation and surrender to nancy pelosi, harry reid, and barack obama. we need a proven principle people. ] to chant ] >> we must defend the constitution. defend life, marriage, and [ cheers ] and always defend the 2nd amendment right to keep and bare arms. we need supreme court justices who will faithfully apply the constitution. and because of tonight, the voters will have a clear choice. we are here today because of each and every one of you and because of over 200,000 volunteers nationwide. we are here today because of people nationwide, going to tedcruz.or

conservative libertarian voters. key for ted cruz. what are we waiting for? they are starting to come in. 6% of the vote. mitt romney, suburbs. established republicans rubio running ahead. we need to watch that. this is still out. if you come down to where cedar rapids is, only 15%. ted cruz can hold this county and they can go back in time. this is the big fight here. trump is in here. rubio is in here. you have a suburb and the shock to me at the moment, trump is doing well and polling the counties that should be for ted cruz. at the moment, cruz doing well. this is where the people are. this is just surprising. we will wait to have more of the votes coming in. these numbers can't change. strong at the moment. >> let's look at the democratic side. closer with 63% of the sites reporting. it's only a two-point race between clinton and sanders. >> the reason she is ahead is back to polk county. the biggest county in the state. she is winning with 54% of the vote. i want to tell our viewers, pay no attention to the numbers. the democrats are state delegate equivalents. >> the democrats do not release the actual numbers. to bernie sanders to overtake t

>> well, keep in mind that those that vote in a republican primary in oklahoma skew libertarian and highly conservative whole. so, yes, i think the split inside the republican party may be larger in some ways than the split between republicans and democrats. republicans need to unite, and i think the candidates and the voting totals you're seeing in these other states reflect the fact that republicans are not able to consolidate around one candidate. >> and we talked about one of the surprises, phillip, his support being evangelicals. can you see oklahomans voting, frankly, for a twice divorced billion -- axative when that lax loves your body back. only miralax hydrates, eases and softens to unblock naturally, so you have peace of mind from start to finish. love your laxative. miralax. text mom. i'll be right back. be good. boys have been really good today. send. let's get mark his own cell phone. nice. brad could use a new bike. send. [google] message. you decide. they're your kids. why are you guys texting grandma? it was him. it was him. app-connect. from the newly redesigned volkswagen passat. righ

but conservatives and even libertarians, at young people and reagan democrats, especially reagan democrats, the blue-collar working class of the democrat party. if republicansre going to win in november 2016, we have to win for the safe of our kids and grandkids. if we are going to win, we have win over the democrats. and to do so, we must stand up with them against sanders. [cheers and applause] cruz: we cannot win by nominating a candidate with the same policy on amnesty as hillary clinton. we need to be unequivocally [indiscernible] ] heers and applause sen. cruz: we cannot win by nominating a candidate with the and policy as obamacare national defense. and for pete's sake, we don't need more [indiscernible] ] heers and applause senator cruz: we do not need more capitulation. need a proven, principled leader who stands with the people. [crowd chanting] >> we want ted. we want ted. we want to head. -- we want to add. -- we want ted. sen. cruz: we must defend the constitution. marriage and religious liberty. always defend the second amendment. applause] cruz: we need to faithfully apply the constitution. and because of tonight, the voters will have a clear

conservative libertarian voters in new hampshire. does he look right and compete there or look at the romney map? if you look at the romney map, more mainstream moderate republicans, you have rubio, kasich, christie, and bush all between 10 and 15 points right now and carly fiorina getting a chunk of that vote, too, maybe 4%, 6%, or 8%. that's a huge chunk of votes. do you fight for that? if you fight for that, ted cruz could sneak in, get 17%, 18% and be right there, second place, you know, or in a muddled pack. i'm really interested to see donald trump, yes, he'll have -- of course you have to contest the other candidates. make the case for him and stop getting caught up in daily twitter wars with everybody else. >> he goes for blue collar independents. look at scott brown. i don't think the social issues are where he lives. scott brown, pro-choice. what he's going to try to do is expand his popularity with those voters, those independents who can vote any way they want in this primary, democrat, republican, get them on the trade issues, on the economy issues, immigration not so much a huge issue in new hampshire, but if you look at the polling last night comin

republican nominee. it's going to be that coalition that includes evangelicals but include libertarians, liberty voters, social conservative voters, reagan democrats. one of the things i saw happen over the last week or so that indicates the breadth of senator cruz's support is when senator paul decided to suspend his race six legislators, representatives who had endorsed senator paul met with senator cruz and decided after they talked with -- very serious legislators, look carefully and endorsed him for president. senator paul's legislative campaign chairman in new a serious well-respected legislator, met with senator cruz and endorsed him. i think there is an understanding that these issues of limited government and , all ofal sovereignty what the libertarian community is concerned about our most strongly represented in this race by senator cruz. host: one column in usa today you might be interested in that perhaps speaks to some of your concerns. the headline, gop should cut the god talk. it is by cal thomas. religious police tell us little to nothing about someone 's ability to be president. usa today if you want to re

libertarians, he's got reagan democrats in the state excited about him. they're excited about the possibility and this will be unusual for the republican party to nominate an actual conservativedy who not only campaigns as a conservative, but who will govern as a conservative. there's a lot of excitement here. i think we're looking forward to saturday. >> do you feel a winnable race for ted cruz, this primary, it's winnable? >> we're leer to compete, we're competing. it very competitive, obviously. compete in all sections of south carolina. if you look at the polling data, particularly the recent poll, ted has shown that he's now taking a lead nationally for the first time since november in the national poll against the donald. the only candidate that's going to have the strength of character, the strength of message, funding to defeat donald trump. so i'm excited about his chances in south carolina i think we're going to do well in south carolina. ted is coalescing a tremendous number of folks around his positive conservative message and i'm excited about our chances. >> you used the phrase very positive, rubio cam pin and trump campaign don't believe he's been campaigning i

anyone who is going to win in the republican party has to bring together the disparate elements of the reagan coalition, bring together conservatives and libertariansnd evangelicals and stitch together a winning majority. when it comes to the audit of the fed bill, i was an original sponsor of the bill, i'm supportive of it. it didn't have the votes to pass and i had commitments to be in a town hall in new hampshire. but i look forward to signing that bill into law as president and auditing the fed and providing needed accountability at the federal reserve. [ applause ] >> senator rubio? >> i think, you know, rand and i have some significant issues on policy, but i respect rand. he believes everything he stands for. [ applause ] i want to be frank about what i stand for. i believe the world is a safer and better place when america is the strongest power in the world. i believe only with a strong america will we defeat this radical group called isis. that's why when i'm president we're going to rebuild our intelligence capabilities and a rebuilt u.s. military is going to destroy these terrorists. if we capture any of these isis killers alive, they a

republican nominee. it's going to be that coalition that includes evangelicals but include libertarians, liberty voters, social conservativeoters, reagan democrats. one of the things i saw happen over the last week or so that indicates the breadth of senator cruz's support is when senator paul decided to suspend his race six legislators, representatives who had endorsed senator paul met with senator cruz and decided after they talked with -- very serious legislators, look carefully and endorsed him for president. senator paul's legislative campaign chairman in new a serious well-respected legislator, met with senator cruz and endorsed him. i think there is an understanding that these issues of limited government and , all ofal sovereignty what the libertarian community is concerned about our most strongly represented in this race by senator cruz. host: one column in usa today you might be interested in that perhaps speaks to some of your concerns. the headline, gop should cut the god talk. it is by cal thomas. religious police tell us little to nothing about someone 's ability to be president. usa today if you want to read

[applause] conservatives and libertarians, young people and reagan democrats, the blue-collar working class voters that the democratic party has -- if republicans are going to win in november 2016 and we have to win for the sake of our kids and grandkids, if we are going to win, we have to hone in the reagan democrats. send ao, we must message. that cnn just reporting donald trump has already launched a tack adds -- attack ads against ted cruz in south carolina. right now, polls show evangelicals leaning toward donald trump in south carolina primary on february 20. new hampshire did not play its normal role last night of whittling the field. it is muddled even more as the established candidates pretty much tied last night. they will have no reason to get out of the race. the wall street journal editorial board says this. new hampshire has not performed its traditional role whittling the field as much as usual good chris christie will find it hard to continue after a sixth place finish. donald and cookeville, tennessee. independent. caller: good morning. i'm always glad to get on here. as far as the election last night, i'm kind of glad to see k

conservatives and evangelicals and libertarians, young people, and reagan democrats. especially, especially, reagan democrats. the blue-collar, working-class voters of the democratic party that they have abandoned. if republicans are going to win in november, and we have to win for the sake of our kids and our grandkids, if we will win we , unequivocally, against sanders. [applause] mr. cruz: we cannot win by nominating a candidate with the same policy on amnesty as hillary clinton. [applause] mr. cruz: we need to be unequivocally against obamacare. [applause] mr. cruz: we cannot win by nominating a candidate with the same policy on obamacare as bernie sanders. [applause] mr. cruz: and for pete' sake, we don' t need more deals. cruz: we don' t need more harry reid and nancy pelosi and barack obama. [applause] mr. cruz: we need a proven, principal leader who stands with the people. crowd: we want ted, we want ted, we want ted. -- we [applause] mr . cruz: defendant life, marriage, and religious liberty. mr. cruz: and always defend the and bear arms. [applause] mr. cruz: we need supreme court apply the constitution. and because of tonight, the voters with a clear choice. each and everyone of you. volunteers natio

republican elected. you have to have someone who can reach further than the conservatives, i think that ted cruz is best positioned, he goes into the tea party vote, the libertarianwith the evangelical vote. they're 50% of primary voters and a third of the general election voters. they stayed home in the last two cycles and that's why the republicans failed. you do have to go beyond that base, but you have to have that base to win. maria: tony, real quick. >> ted cruz pro growth economic policy, tony, what is it? >> well, he's talking about a flat tax, a tax that would be equal eliminating a lot of the exemptions. we'll see how far that goes. obviously, he has to work with congress, but look, the thing that he talks about most that's beneficial from an economic standpoint is regulation. maria: yeah, absolutely. >> eliminating regulations that harness businesses and keep them from growing. maria: tony, thank you for joining us. >> have a great day. maria: tony perkins. we'll be right back. to a new . born with a hunger to fly and a passion to build something better. and what an amazing time it's been, decade after decade of innovation, inspiration and wonder. so,