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this book, even writing colorism chapter, her constant instrtions black writers to not write with the cricn our shoulders, to not righwith the white gays in our minds because one of the things that we have been -- it is difficult for us to write about is internalized racism. here is going toav happen is what races are going to take that and say, see, we've been telling you you're the problem all along and now you're finally admitting it. i was like, let me get the white critic off my shoulder and right. people ofality that color, particularly black people, are facing in a wanted to speak t amy: we're going to go to break and come back to our discussion with ibram x. kendi,, professor of history and internatial relations and founding director of the antiracist research and policy center at american university. he is the national book award-winning author of "stamped from the beginning: the definitive history of racist ideas in america." and just before we go to break, you were not a well-known professor, an a assistant professor at the university of flora. can you describe the moment the na