george curley and gary schultz are charged with lying about what they knew. according to the grand jury, schultz testified that the allegations were not that serious and that he and curley had no indication that a crime had occurred. and, when asked whether the graduate assistant had reported sexual conduct of any kind by sandusky, curley answered no twice. >> he's shaky as you can expect. he's been aware of the allegations for over three years. he came back to state college voluntarily last night. >> reporter: curley and schultz are expected to turn themselves in on monday. in a statement curley's lawyers said, "we will vigorously challenge the charges in court." and we are confident he will be exonerated. an attorney for gary schultz wrote, gary schultz is an honorable man and law-abiding father and grandfather. he is innocent. it did not implicate penn state coach joe paterno saying when he first learned of abuse he reported it to curley, his boss. but the scandal could be a hit to the team. >> this is a much more serious issue than other schools getting o

curley. >> this is disappointing.ause rather than follow the law, the attorney general's fabricated a fiction. >> reporter: as far as the 84-year-old coach joe paterno, the attorney general says he will not be charged, but there are calls for his resignation. today, a press conference for paterno was hastily canceled, but he did say this to cnn. >> you guys have a lot of good questions that i'd like to answer but i can't do it now. >> jason carroll joins me with sarah gannon, a reporter at the patriot news and wendy murphy, a former sex prosecutor. there have been reports that joe paterno, some are calling for his resignation. has he said whether he intends to do that? and why are some saying he should resign? >> reporter: first, let me answer the question in terms of why. they're saying that he should resign simply because maybe he did what he should have done legally, but morally the feeling among some is he should have done more by going to the police. in terms of whether or not he'll resign at his house, his son,

in a statement curley's lawyers says we will vigorously charge the charges in court. an attorney for gary schultz wrote "he is an honorable man and law abiding father and grandfather. he is innocent". it did not implicate penn state coach joe paterno saying when he heard of allegations he reported it to curley. but the scandal could be a hit to the team. >> this is a much more serious issue than other schools getting on probation for ncaa violations. we're talking about the law here. >> reporter: and shocking allegations for a program used to being in the spotlight for much different reasons. kristen dahlgren, nbc news, los angeles >>> now to a wave of discontent over rising bank fees that turned into a wave of action today as people all across the country answered a grassroots call to switch their money from big corporate banks to their local credit unions. what started with a single facebook posting from a fed up bank customer in los angeles apparently touched a nerve, culminating today in what's being called national bank transfer day. in just the last few weeks, h

joe respected tim curley and schultz. >> okay. then that's -- >> he went to them thinking they would do their job, and they didn't do their job and everybody's now blaming joe. that's what i don't understand. >> franco harris, great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. let's turn to sports comment at a timer and writer john fine steen, author of the upcoming book "one on on one." i find it hard to believe that a former player would go to joe paterno and say, this is what i saw. number one, he passed it on to the a.d. and another administrator and didn't report it to the police. as a journalist, what's the next move? >> i think you're 100% right. ij when mike mcqueary went to joe paterno's house at that day, he should have made two phone calls, one to graham spainer and the second to the police. having said that, if you want to say it was okay to call tim curley the athletic director and put it in his hands, the fact is he never followed up or went back and said, tim, what's going on? why haven't i heard from the po

the next day paterno met with school officials curley and schultz.he same month penn state president graham spanier approved of the minor action taken against jerry sandusky. but there is no evidence any of these people tried to identify the 10-year-old boy. there was apparently no attempt to contact him, get his side of the story, see if he needed medical attention. the graduate assistant, mike mcqueary-s now an assistant football coach at penn state who was hired in 2003. joining me now is former district attorney of lawrence county, pennsylvania, matthew mangino. mr. mangino, good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> when the now assistant football coach mcqueary witnessed this, he was 28 years old at the time. and in cases of rape or activity such as this, is it legally acceptable to witness and not report it directly to police? >> well, there's really no legal obligation for just the average citizen to report a crime that they may have witnessed. in this particular situation because he worked for a university he had an obliga

paterno said he notified the university athletic director tim curley. a week and a half later, the graduate assistant told his story to curley and shultz, who is penn state's vp for finance and business who oversaw the campus police. despite that the grand jury found that no one ever notified campus police and never sought information on the 1998 allegations. what they did bar jerry sandusky from bringing anymore kids from the second mile program in to the football building. shultz said his memory was hazy about what the graduate assistant told the told the two of them. quote, the grand jury finds that portion of the testimony of tim curley and gary shultz are not credible. portions of the testimony not credible. cites them for making materially false statements under oath. as for the grad student, his name is mike mcqueary. he is now penn state's receivers coach. the grand jury found his account highly credible and found what he witnessed should have been reported to law enforcement and child welfare if not by mcqueary shultz, curley or many are saying

gary schultz and tim curley due in court. the former coach, jerry sandusky is now charged with a long pattern of molesting boys. he is free though right now on $100,000 bond. >>> and the anxious wait continues for dr. conrad murray as the second day of jury deliberations get under way. prosecutors portrayed murray as an incapable doctor who pumped michael jackson with propofol and kept no record. the defense claims however that jackson injected himself with the fatal dose of the powerful anesthetic. if convicted of involuntary manslaughter, conrad murray could get up to four years in prison and lose his medical license. >>> singer andy williams announced over the weekend he is being treated for bladder cancer. williams is now # 3. he told a crowd in branson, missouri that cancer is no longer the death sentence it used to be. he says he is looking forward to

curley and schultz say they did nothing wrong and deny the charges. still, they're expected to turn themselves in here at harrisburg. students at penn state are stunned. >> it's kind of heartbreaking. >> you don't expect those here at penn state. we pride ourselves on respect. >> it's sad that it's at our school and he's involved with young kids. it's just sad. >> reporter: drew levinson, cbs news, harrisburg, pennsylvania. >>> penn state head coach joe paterno has not been charged. prosecutors say he first learned of the case in 2002. an assistant told paterno he saw sandusky sexually assaulting a young boy in the locker room. they say paterno told university's athletic director tim curley, who's charged with a cover-up, but paterno did not call the police. last night paterno issued a statement saying he's, quote, shocked and saddened by the charges, adding that, if this is true, we were all fooled. >>> in other news this morning, growing outrage in connecticut. nearly 90,000 homes and businesses are still without power. eight days after that october

he did alert tim curley about one of the alleged incidents involving sandusky in 2002. joining us on the phone is sara ganim, a reporter for "the patriot news." sara, what have you learned? >> reporter: we first learned about this in the summer of 2009, not long after the first boy came forward. i say the first boy, i mean the first one to really come forward to police and be believed by police. what we know from today is that there's really like two sets of allegations here. there's a couple of kids -- there are two kids who accused sandusky of a prolonged relationship of abuse over a couple of years. and really adultlike sex acts. and then there's this series of shower incidents involved. a few other kids -- not all of them actually testified. some of them were cases where witnesses saw something in a shower and reported it or didn't report it and that's where you get these eight cases -- or they say eight victims. there are eight separate incidents -- >> sara, can i jump in real quick. this is new video coming in to cnn of sandy being arrested. new video of jerry san

in fact, the defense for curley and schultz say they are outraged by the delay.rnment that's asking for the delay. that does sound a bit unusual. >> you know, the scary thing here, mike and now buzz, the graphic nature of what we were told in the grand jury, a naked 10-year-old boy up against a wall with a grownup behind him having sex with him, just -- i mean, pen traiting him. it's an unimaginable scene, and here is mcqueary saying something quite human for once. he says imagine being in my shoes for 30 to 45 seconds. i mean, it was jes, the moment he looked and probably looked away. he didn't stop anything in 30 to 45 seconds. he didn't seem to call the police in 30 to 45 second. it looked like he turned his eyes away from a horrible scene and didn't know what to do, did nothing really. go ahead, buzz? >> you know, look, i have no doubt that mcqueary saw a rape, absolutely no doubt. would i bet my life on the lives of the children that jerry sandusky did what he's alleged to have done. i believe that more than ever on the basis of his interview in which i thi

he said paterno told his boss, athletic director curley who testified to the grand jury sandusky was, quote, merely horsing around. in a statement, joe paterno said he's shocked by the charges and troubled that someone he thought he knew may have harmed young people. lawyers for sansandusky, curleyd schultz all denied the charges and promised to fight them in court. on campus, many students now fear the football team best known for winning may be losing its sterling reputation in the scandal. kristen dahlgren, nbc news, los angeles. >>> today we hit the one-year mark until the presidential election. for the candidates, that's a equivalent of a nanosecond or lifetime depending which way the winds are blowing. for herman cain who has been facing a head wind of controversy over sexual harassment accusations, he had some more uncomfortable moments on the campaign trail last night. as he tried once again to get back on message. nbc's mike viqueira reports. >> ladies and gentlemen, last question, please. >> reporter: a combative herman cain lashing out at reporters last night in texas. >> d

tim curley and schultz who oversaw campus police. despite that, the grand jury found no one ever notified campus police. never sought information on the 1998 allegations. what they did do is bar jerry sandusky from bringing any more kids from his second mile program into the football building. schultz also told the grand jury his memory was hazy about what the graduate assistant told the two of them. they both deny they were told it was sodomy. the grand jury finds that portions of the testimony of tim can you recally were not credible. mike mcqueary is the receivers coach. the grand jury found his account highly credible. it found that what mcqueary witnessed should have been reported to law enforcement and child welfare if not by mcqueary or gary schultz or joe paterno. there's breaking news from his attorney. jason carroll spoke with him. what are you hearing? >> reporter: i spoeske to his attorney an hour ago. he's extremely frustrated. first off, he disputes and his client he says disputes all of the allegations that are being m

curley and schultz are expected to turn themselves in on monday. >> this is a much more serious issue than other schools getting on probation for ncaa violations. we're talking about the law here. >> reporter: but outside court saturday san dusky's attorney man takened his innocence. >> he is shaky, as you can expect, being 67 years old and never having faced criminal charges in his life. >> reporter: in his statement curley's lawyer says "we will vigorously challenge the charges in court, and we are confident he will be exonerated." an attorney for schultz says he is an honorable and law-abiding man, father, and grandfather. he is innocent of these charges. the grand jury did not implicate penn state coach joe paterno, saying he reported the alleged abecause to curley who was his boss. as it plays out in court, the scandal could now cloud the history of one of the country's most storied teams. for "today" kristen dahlgren, nbc news, los angeles. >>> up next on "today" she made quite a splash in the race for 2008, so whatever happened to obama girl? we're going to find out right after

he concluded when he heard the alleges, he did report what he knew to his supervisor, tim curley. joe paterno said he was shocked at the allegations against sandusky. they all three denied the charges and promised to fight them in court. francis coe, nbc news. >> we have also learned penn state athletic director tim curley and greg schultz, vice president, announced their resignations tonight amid allegations. >>> it's a breakthrough discovery by scientists at the prestigious mayo clinic being held in the potential game changer to turn back the clock. the youth could lie in cutting edge treatment to fight anything from wrinkles to, well, old age. here's the details. >> correct what ages you. >> reporter: the business of youth. >> now we have a solution for wrinkles. >> reporter: one that includes thousands of products. >> i think i'm trying to look as good as i possibly can. >> reporter: procedures, and even surgeries, all to turn back the clock. >> it's amazing what's happened in the last 10 to 15 years. technology has taken it to another level. >> reporter: it's all a big money

curley and mr. schultz are anxious to face their awe keysers and clear their good names and go on with their lives. with mike mcqueary now appearing to release contradictary statements in contrast to what he reportedly told the grand jury, there is some question about the case against schultz and curley. arguably, jon, you could say there is some question about the university's decision to fire joe paterno as well as graham spanier, the president, based in part on what mcqueary has been saying. and lastly now, in another development we have pictures recorded within the hour outside the home of the alleged pedophile, jerry sandusky. sandusky no longer welcome on the penn state campus. used to work out here at the gym. today we saw a exercise machine being delivered to his home. sandusky though continues to keep a low profile. jon, back to you. jon: david lee miller, thank you. jenna: plus capitol hill lawmakers hold hearings today on huge executive payouts at fannie mae and freddie mac. we have new i

curley. >> curley and schultz resigned. in just a few minutes football coach joe paterno will make his first public appearance since jerry sandusky was charged. purple punishment means the morning team of our sister that station is eating our words. after the trash talk, they are wearing purple and black to remind all the steelers fans that a narrow win is still a win. >> all right, we are good to our word. you can say that. we are wearing a purple. >> and black. >> and somewhat purple pin stripes. >> i know. but it is a little bit of a somber morning. we get it in pittsburgh. we give you guys a winner. you got it, 23-20. >> keep in mind -- baltimore is playing very well against the steelers this year. you won twice. but against everyone else -- can you hang on to the division lead? >> and long season. >> we are counting on you to lose a couple of times to help us. we will be watching you, baltimore. >> otherwise traveled to baltimore for a playoff. >> which would be fun, too. >> fair enough. kikwit note -- job attorney's p

curley answered no twice. curley and schultz expected to turn themselves in on monday. >> this is a much more serious issue than other schools getting on probation for ncaa violations. we're talking about the law here. >> reporter: but outside court saturday, sandusky's attorney maintains his innocence. >> he's shaky, as you can expect. being 67 years old and never having faced criminal charges in his life. >> reporter: his lawyer says we will vick rousely challenge the charges in court and we are confident he will be exonerated. an attorney for schultz wrote that gary schultz is an honorable law-abiding man, father, and grandfather, he is innocent of these charges. joe paterno reported the alleged abuse to curley, who was his boss. the scandal could cloud the history of one of the country's most storied teams. for "today," kristen dahlgren, nbc news, los angeles. >>> up next on "today," she might quite a splash in the race. whatever happened to obama girl. we'll find out. ly stages of cancer, and it's somethi

instead, he told penn state athletic director tim curley. now, curley and a penn state vice president are charged with perjury and failure to report the alleged abuse to authorities. paterno has not been charged. >> we love joe. >> suarez: last night there was no mistaking the show of support for the embattled coach outside his home. hundreds of students gathered for the man dubbed "joe-pa." paterno spoke to the focus of the case. >> there's been some criticism of the way we've handled some of the poor victims. you know my wife and i have 17 grandkids, from 16 to three and we pray for them every night and we're going to start praying for the kids that got involved in some of the problems that were talked about. >> suarez: the exuberance didn't end, and the coach emerged once more. >> it's hard for me to tell you how much this means to me. you guys-- i've lived for this place. i've lived for people like you guys. >> suarez: for now, paterno plans to be on the sidelines this saturday, when penn state plays nebraska, in the nittany lions' final

both curley and schultz have been charged with lying to the federal grand jury and have been removed from their jobs. >> pelley: armen, thank you very much. in washington today, congress was judging the hefty paychecks of the executives who run two government mortgage companies known by their nicknames, fannie mae and freddie mac. fanny and freddie own half of all mortgages. taxpayers had to bail out both companies and wyatt andrews tell us that's why executives were feeling the heat on capitol hill. >> reporter: if anything could draw bipartisan anger in congress, this was it. huge paychecks and bonuses for top executives at fannie mae and freddie mac when those two agencies combined have cost taxpayers $169 billion with the losses still mounting. the two c.e.o.s who faced the heat, fannie's michael williams and freddie's charles haldeman, earned $9.3 million and $7.8 million over two years, which gives them, republican darrell issa said, the best taxpayer-financed jobs ever. >> you made $9.3 million in the last two years. well, the president made $800,000. you think that's okay? >>

both sandusky, curley and schulz say they deny the allegations. >> peter alexander, thank you. >>> nowa tense showdown at a park in downtown portland, oregon, where tonight protesters from the occupy movement are refusing to leave, despite orders from local officials. similar scenes are playing out right now in cities across the country as patience with the protest appears to be wearing thin. miguel almaguer reports. >> reporter: the police sweep came this afternoon, hundreds of occupy portland protesters forced from a downtown park hours after the city warned them to leave. >> they start hitting people around, usually on the arms and legs. a number of people went down. >> three, two, one! >> reporter: the protest numbers had dwindled from last night when thousands poured through city streets. a mostly peaceful but at times tense face-off with police. the city's mayor said occupy portland was becoming dangerous. the overnight encampments no longer safe. today's eviction in portland comes as officials who cite health and safety concerns try to put to an end similar demonstrations playin

about, something then he should go, too. >> vice president gary schultz and athletic director tim curley step down late saturday from their posts. we've just learned they were released on bail from jail. investigators believe sandusky who was arrested saturday likely has more victims out there and they're asking for any of those victims to come forward. >> wisdom, what happens to joe pa? >> that's the big question here is authorities say football coach joe paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations, but there is talk -- we're talking about talk -- among the alumni, in the sports world, people at penn state that he should step down the end of the season. so there's a possibility this all could bring his career at penn state to an end. >>> well, it is monday. we are down in the newsroom talking to state of the skins -- talk the state of skins with sports director dave feldman. i always wouldn'ted to have a groundhog day -- wanted to have a groundhog day and we could do everything over and over again that we'd like. what's the deal? >> they've l

. >> you know who curley told. >> there is an investigation that will be under way by our committee and all of the investigative resources that they need. there are law enforcement activities under way. so we are certainly not rushing to a judgment that suggests that we know all of the fangts. >> so you don't rush to judgment when it comes to facts but you rush to judgment when it comes to dismissing paterno? >> is that a question or a statement? >> i'm asking you. did you rush to judgment by letting go joe paterno? >> no. >> is there more information than the public knows about paterno's involve plt in this case? >> not necessarily, no. this was a collective judgment that we weighed all of the factors and we thought we needed to do to move the university in the right direction. there's nothing more that i can say about that. one at a time. >> with respect to the previous answers that you've given, why now? >> well, today was the day that our board felt we had sufficient deliberation and sufficient views that was consistent among the board and trustees and we reached that decision today

tim curley, his boss, if only in name, new. so how could paterno? and why was a police investigation launched in 1998 and not in 2002? in 2002 not only were the allegations more graphic, but there was a trusted eyewitness, mike mcqueary. because in 1998 the alleged victim's mother went first to police, but in 2002 mcqueary went first to paterno? mckooqueary is claiming he did k to police. there's no record of a police report. and penn state is exempt from the law. they've been hiding behind a legal wall of silence. they could open up their records, but they haven't chosen to do that: second mile isn't talking either. nor the officials at the zoo where victim one was attending. jerry sandusky was also coaching football. victim's one allegations were what ultimately led to sandusky's downfall, and in yet another case of everything kind of being connected, the local d.a. had to hand off the case to state authorities because here the da is related by marriage to sandusky. his wife's biological brother is sandusky's adopted son. so jerry sandusky had col

. >> reporter: penn state athletic director tim curley, an interim senior vice president gary schultz are charged with perjury and failing to tell police about the alleged sexual assault of a boy perhaps as young as ten years old by retired football defensive coach jerry sandusky. the alleged incident happened on campus in a locker room shower. state police commissioner frank noonan. nk this is not a case about football. it's not a case about the universities. it's a case about children who have had their innocence stolen from them. >> reporter: 67-year-old sandusky has been charged with the sexual assault of eight boys between 1994 and 2009. all the minors participated in sandusky's charity for troubled youth. but it was the 2002 shower incident that is called into inci question the reaction of penn state officials, including 84- year-old coach joe paterno. a graduate student alerted paterno the day after he witnessed the shower assault. paterno told a grand jury that he passed that information on to his boss, tim curley who in turn notified school vice president tifiltz. state attor