aggressive cybersecurity and training is just a given. at defense is in this case is the best offense. there are concerns in u.s., the government of japan does not take cyber training service enough to protect security information or statistics. what we need is -- i'll talk you what that might look like and who should help. i think the government of japan must be encouraged to take full advantage of the three-piece, relaxation because only been around for a year and half, two years now so it's quite understandable that will be problems in getting it off the ground. my criticisms here are very mild because i understand the difficult this is. japanese industry is hesitant to embrace the freedoms it has been granted and that goes back to talk about in sensitization. they are not incentivized to do it at four, 6% profit margin and the ability to export. when you begin to export defense articles into various markets, you are going to look at somewhere between two and 10 x profit margins of what should be making with their sovereign cover. the

we beginning this evening with a report on cybersecurity we talk to sam palmisano the former ceo of ibm and the national security advisor to president obama. >> he has in each of his presentations the last four years to the congression on the major threats facing the united states ranked cybersecurity number one and it's just not the case the country has treated it as the number one threat. we have far more resources and emphasis and share and attention to counterterrorism which is it appropriate and a homeland security but in terms of a whole range of dimensions underfocussed on the cybersecurity and there were a number of things we could do to enhance cybersecurity and how the commission came about. >> rose: and a now fill by mark wahlberg and we were joined about the conversation about the "patriots day" film. >> if every day you turn on the news or open the paper there's another attack somewhere and we wanted to promote the message love will always win and wanted to come together and unite and how my town reacted in the face of terror it made me proud. >> rose: and conclude with and

charlie: cybersecurity has become one of the greatest challenges facing this country. last february, president obama created a commission to address the growing threat. earlier this month the commission on enhancing national cybersecurity announced its findings in a comprehensive report, it called for urgent action to enhance american cybercapabilities. meanwhile last week, president obama ordered a full review of russia's election-related hacking. president-elect trump continues to dispute the kremlin's involvement. joining me now are the commissioner's chairs. former ibm ceo and a former national security advisor. i'm pleased to have both of them here. tell me exactly briefly, quickly, then we'll turn to our does other contemporary issues and come back to the report per se, how this came about. >> it came about, the president looked at what the challenges were and things that had been addressed in the first seven years of his term and determined

to use a cybersecurity product. then data scientists.ractically a university math department of ph.d.s who are writing the algorithms that undergird all this detection technology. emily: a lot going on here when it comes to global cybersecurity. president-elect trimp planning to issue an executive order on on day one to prioritize the creation of a cyberresponse infrastructure, yet at the same time he's been skeptical of these claims that russia hacked the u.s. elections. how do you expect the threat landscape to change under president trump? nate: i think the threat landscape will continue becoming more and more hostile to the united states. for the simple fact that offense is structurally dominant. a doll after offense beats a dollar of defense every time. if the u.s. is going to ensure a basic level of trust and stability in the cyberdomain, we have to bring to bear all the elements of american power in order to deter our adversaries. it shouldn't be about the united states hacking hackers. we should be martialing every element of mil

we all need to take cybersecurity very seriously. we certainly do. we spend an inordinate amount of time. and it's not something that's ever done. so i think we can do various things, and there's been some hopeful developments that enable members of industry to share information so that you see common threats. you all share the best information that you have as these things develop. i think that's important. i also think, though, there's a growing trend that's very important that we talk about in the policy making world, and that really is the growing threat from nation-states. and the u.s. government is a little bifurcated, a little schizophrenic almost on this issue. when you have a major attack, sometimes you have parts of the government that are there to help and parts that are, frankly, punishing the -- >> explain that. >> guest: well, in the sense that every time you can have a breach by a major nation-state, and you have agencies coming in immediately saying we're going to fine the company for doing something wrong. so think about this in the

i have a cybersecurity bill to reorganize the cyber security agency within the department. i cannot get that passed and the congress and there are multiple reasons i can go on and on about national security legislation that is paralyzed. >> we are reorganizing into a protection agency that is responsible for cybersecurity missions that least it should be a good idea on a bipartisan basis. but you have heard those jurisdictional huddles. >> was just going to add for the homeland security committee my former colleague is over their chair that committee for a long time but in this case if we really think the biggest threat is self sabbaticals asian is ridiculous not to give the committee more tools but the problem is the jurisdiction is power it is a zero sum game. not foreign countries before the congress you might want to take that jurisdiction from the commerce committee over radiological materials that could be used for dirty bombs and they need more protection but homeland cannot move from that with the commerce committee that does not want to give up jurisdiction because

i have a cybersecurity bill to reorganize the cybersecurity agency within the department to authorize i cannot get that passed in congress right now. there are multiple visa bills and i could go on and on about national security legislation pair lies by jurisdiction. >> a cyber and infrastructure agencies agency so we have an agency responsible for the mission is or at least it should be a good idea on a bipartisan basis. but you have heard the jurisdictional hurdles that have to be wrestled with before we can get there. >> bush is going to add that it's not only a problem for the homeland security committee, served on the intelligence committee for a long time and in wickman is over there a former colleague of ours chaired that committee and it had similar problems but in this case if we really think the biggest threat to u.s. homeland security is self-radicalization it is ridiculous not to give the committee more tools. the problem is committee jurisdiction is power and so it is a zero-sum game. it's not a zero-sum game. it's a game for the country but it is for the congress. one --

i have a cybersecurity bill to reorganize the cybersecurity agency within the department to authorize it. i cannot get that past in the congress right now. and there are multiple visa bills that can't get passed. i can go on and on good legislation paralyzed by jurisdiction. reorganizing it into an agency so we have an agency responsible for the u.s. government cybersecurity mission is at least it should be a good idea on a bipartisan basis. but you've heard the durs jicti jurisdictional hurdles that have to be wrestled with before we can get there. >> it's not only a problem for the homeland security committee. i served on the intelligence committee for a long time. and dan glickman that is over there dhared that committee tfo a long time. it has similar problems. in this case, if we really it this biggest threat to u.s. homeland security is self radicalization, it is ridiculous not to give this committee more tools. the problem is that committee jurisdiction is power. and so it is a zero sum game. it's not a zero sum game for the country. but it is for the congress. radiological mat

>> guest: there a are couple of things was cybersecurity.first, obviously everyone not just our industry but all industries take it seriously. we spend an end toward an amount of time was cybersecurity. so i think we can do various things and there has been some helpful developments as industry members share information to see common threads and share the best information you have as it develops. i think that's good i also think there's a growing trend that's very important and we talk about in the policymaking world and that really is a gross threat from nation-states. the u.s. government is of little bifurcated, a little schizophrenic on this issue. when you have a major attacks on fascia parts of the government that are there to help in parts of the government that are frankly punishing the victim. if you think about this -- >> guest: explained now. >> guest: at every time you have to preach by a nation-state and have agencies coming immediately saying we are going to find the company. if you have a cargo ship sailing to these coasts of t

i want to talk about cybersecurity and how it undermines our national security. there are so many serious -- >> you don't think russia's hacking into political entities within the united states is a serious problem? >> no. i think anybody who hacks into the united states -- >> and is also part of our cybersecurity emergency? >> it's a crime and i want to know on this particular question, i watched all your reporting and i think on this particular question, it is a very dangerous game for the intelligence community to not just come clean to the american voter and tell them what they know. they are playing a game of leaks, playing a game of selective briefing and it looks partisan to those of us who support mr. trump. there's a lot of us across the country. if they have something, why don't you just tell us? >> hopefully they will very soon. >> hopefully so. >> i'm with you. thank you for joining me this morning. >>> still to come in the "newsroom" an escape from the horrors in syria denied for thousands as evacuations are again halted. see me. see me. don't stare

a former nsa director who is also part of the cybersecurity commission.general, great to have you on the program. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, maria. >> tell us about the cybersecurity commission and its impact? >> well, we had a commissioner, 12 commissioners together, a nonpartisan, look at the biggest issues to face our country in cyber security. as you mention, we came up with six imperatives, roughly 13 recommendations and 50 action items. when you look at this, you hit on some of the key things. what do we need to give to the next president, president-elect trump and his administration, of what they could do their first 100 days in office to help set cyber security right. this is hugely important for our nation. for a whole host of reasons. if you think about the theft of intellectual property, the greatest transfer of wealth in history, the is is something th president-elect trump clearly understands. that's our future. we have to fix that. one of the ways of fixing that is by having government and industry work together. and joining t

>> i think there will be more and more focus of cybersecurity of the cloud. every single sector, every single company is likely to be susceptible to an attack. in our minds there's only two types of companies, ones who already know they've been vulnerable to an attack and those yet to find out. if you think about connectivity overall, today we have 25 billion connected devices. by the end of this decade this is likely to nearly double or roughly double to 50 billion at that time. that essentially means 50 billion potential entry points. with that said, it does tend to be more secure if we put our data up in the cloud, that a larger services provider such as amazon through aws, that can help you protect your data during that time. >> if i want to play intelligence as a utility, if i'm assuming that, you know, that just like we've seen other trends become household items, like the iphone or whatever. if i'm playing intelligence as a utility and assuming there's more of it, how do i best play it? also, thinking about education for example, if education is someth

he's exposed that we have no cybersecurity. that give us a chance to fikts it and he exposed how corrupt government is. i know you have not been a fan of his. shouldn't we have learned ten years ago to fix it? >> well, unfortunately bradley manning and edward snowden also exposed the problem. we have problems with security if these guys can take the material they did out there. as we look at who did this, i think it's very important that we do have an open investigation. the reason i've raised the possibility of a false flag operation, that it was people planting evidence to point their finger at russia, there may be somebody else with stakes here. i have not said it was the obama administration that said that. i think it was another foreign government. nobody has explained why they're so certain it's the russians. >> i hope you end up serve in the trump administration. i think would would be a real asset to the country. i won't ask you if you're involved. nobody gives me a straight answer. >>> forming up, former speaker of the

it's part of cybersecurity. but what really happened was not something that changed the outcome of the election. what happened was that a very dumb democrat gave his password away to the hackers, whatever they were and hillary clinton destroyed government documents and kept a whole lot of state secrets on a private server in her bathroom which was unsecu d unsecured. that could be the focus of a lot of attention. >> you've said that every conversation that we've had, this didn't have an impact on the election. is that important? ambassador bolton makes the point that the russian efforts being incompetent or insufficient shouldn't make us feel better. it's not important to make the point that there's evidence that had an impact or any effect on u.s. elections. >> i think we ought to be doing what we can to say, look, that's unacceptable, we're not going to tolerate it even while we're attempting to do it to you. i get that. that's part of the postering and the diplomatic move that we have to take. this is a good

there's also lack of funding for cybersecurity yes cyber defense command but in general development of the defense side they are underfunded. i talked to the head of the previous head of the 20/20 olympics and 20 and said you arrived responsibility for cybersecurity? do you have any money for that quicks he said i don't. any authority? he said i don't. some folks were sponsored by a large nongovernment entity within japan looking at cybersecurity because they came to talk to us for transportation we had a great discussion and said what is your timeline? we are under contract we have to work up and tell that sense they said three months prior to the olympics so you're going to do a study then drop by your sponsors? is that sense of urgency that to it is a national threat to be taken in seriously that is something that japan has not come to grips with yet. >> to his point i do think he made a good point that in japan i will submit that is the biggest detriment right now is a lack. with japan's industrial side to protect its intellectual property. only now has highly classified programs b

we don't have enough cybersecurity analysts to really help defend our networks accurately.need to really revamp how we educate and train people around cybersecurity to help our government and our country. liz: well, i agree. you hear that digital knocking on the windows and doors, testing the locks like digital velociraptors, remember the scene in "jurassic park" where they were testing doors and fences. ask anybody in silicon valley. the agents and russians are very much to blame. i have to bring you to this. is the president-elect, i know you don't want to insert yourself into policy, is he taking this seriously enough attacking cia which led to a response from former cia spokesperson who put out on a facebook page comment. his name is george, george little. next commander-in-chief, president-elect trump dismisses the work of agency and calls its findings quote ridiculous. his disdain and disrespect for cia and wider intelligence community is nothing short of shameless. he makes the point these guys put themselves out there to catch the bad guys, often at their own peril.

he named cybersecurity expert thomas bossert has homeland security counterterrorism adviser, and jasonreenblatt one of mr. trump's personal lawyers will take the newly created post of special representative for international negotiations. julianna goldman has more. >> reporter: the appointments are a marriage of sorts between mr. trump's business world and washington foreign policy establishment, bossert expert in >>> the obama administration is expected to unveil new sanctions against moscow for interfering in the recent presidential election. the moves come as president elect trump made two more staff appointments. he named cybersecurity expert thomas bossert has homeland security counterterrorism adviser, and jason greenblatt one of mr. trump's personal lawyers will take the newly created post of special representative for international negotiations. julianna goldman has more. >> reporter: the appointments are a marriage of sorts between mr. trump's business world and washington foreign policy establishment, bossert expert in cybersecurity and potential ally for republicans who want

he named cybersecurity expert thomas bossert has homeland security counterterrorism adviser, and jasonersonal lawyers will take the newly created post of special representative for international negotiations. julianna goldman has more. >> reporter: the appointments are a marriage of sorts between mr. trump's business world and washington foreign policy establishment, bossert expert in cybersecurity and potential ally for republicans who want to see the president elect and team take a tougher approach to russian president vladamir putin. >> there its no doubt in my mind that russia hacked into our political system. senators lindsay graham and john mccain believe the president elect will soon have to acknowledge russia's efforts to interfere in the u.s. election. >> i think he will be presented with the overwhelming evidence, change his view. we will have the hearings. we will put sanctions together that hit putin as an individual and his inner circle. >> they may have an allien the trump administration. thomas bossert, george w. bush alum with expertise in cybersecurity. >> as the the p

. >> rose: we begin this evening with cybersecurity and the obama administration. the president ordered a full review of russia's election related hacking. lis manaco told investigator about the investigation on friday morning. she said the report will be delivered before president leaves office january 20th. john mccain said cybersecurity issues would be a central focus to have the senate armed services committee which he will chair. senator john mccain, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: why are you making that announcement today? >> well, obviously, one of the issues, the situations that has brought this situation to a boil is the allegations of russia interfering not only in our elections but other elections around the world. that undermines the fundamentals of democracy if they're able to succeed. but more importantly, charlie, testimony before the committee by our military and civilian leaders in defense all stated cyber is one of the areas where we do not have an advantage over our potential adversaries. not only do not have an advanta

donald trump is aware of the problems with cybersecurity.in the speech about the contract to america, his hundred day plan, he talked about priorities was beefing up security and helping protect our cyber infrastructure. >> is there a way to talk about it as a russian hack. >> that's exactly right. >> kristen, where do you think trump supporters stand on this? is do they care? >> i think for a lot of supporters they're viewing this through that partisan lens. viewing this as congressman king said, sort of a hit job on the president-elect. but doesn't necessarily mean that republicans love vladimir putin or russia. we have seen debates over vladimir putin, russia wikileaks fall into partisan camps where you have seen wikileaks have an increase in support from republicans and decrease in support from democrats. at the same time a majority of republicans still have an unfavorable view of vladimir putin and still feel that russia is in of an adversary than an views russia as more of an ally than an adversary. republicans know trump may not be on

there is a lot that we can do ourselves to heighten awareness about cybersecurity best practices. not opening an e-mail you don't recognize and not opening attachments you don't recognize and that they seek training goes a long way in raising barriers and racing firewalls. the most sophisticated actors can launch the most devastating attacks by a simple active spearfishing. very often that's how it started. the bad actors in the system can impose on anyone in the system once they are inside the wall. >> during the election campaign donald trump is generally dismissive of the suggestion that russian hacking is playing a key role. last sunday he was interviewed by chris wallace, talking about the latest analysis by the cia analysts. the congress said they thought it was ridiculous and he is also said recently that he doesn't need a daily intelligence briefing, that tends to be repetitive. your bill last year's have had unassuming hundreds of thousands of intelligence briefings in new york and to know the cia extremely well. so i want to ask you what is your judgment about the agency

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but that being said, we've got, our cybersecurity report is brilliant and she's great. when i was tasked with helping with the story i didn't even realize what i didn't know. so having her around to kind of bounce ideas off of or to handle some of it was wonderful. so i do think it helps to have all of it because our readers are looking for all different kinds of understanding of technology. >> so my next question may be a little bit of inside baseball, but science writing and medical writing i recognize as specially feels within journalism and they have their own conventions and things like medical writing, the rule on when you can write about studies. there is a national association of science writers. there is a medical writers association to s. res. i know there is no technology writers association, national association. is technology writing -- >> by technology you mean computers basically? it such a broad term. >> and that's what i'm sort of what i'm asking. is technology so broad that there is not a specialty field of technology? be think it will be or do you thi

bush alum with an extra piece in cybersecurity. >> if the government doesn't step in. >> reporter: as the bossert will be considered equal to the national security advisor, the general michael flynn. according to a statement from the trump transition, he will focus on domestic and transnational security priorities while -- transnational security priorities. >> the time for action is now. >> reporter: following last week's u.n. security council condemnation of their west bank settlement, mr. trump has announced a new international negotiator. jason green a business lawyer who has been with mr. trump for two decades was also a campaign advisor on israel. the president elect said he has a history of negotiating substantial complex transactions on my behalf. something that may appeal to republicans like lindsey graham. >> i'm very encouraged under president trump israel will get a better deal. >> reporter: mr. trump supports more settlement construction for his choice on u.s. ambassador to israel. julianna goldman cbs >> the president elect tweeted this morning he has support for israel.

coming up, we get a silicon take on what trump's election means for cybersecurity.d the future of streaming television. this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: president-elect trump's transition team is considering a silicon valley investor who is to billionaire peter teal to lead the food and drug administration. his according to people familiar with the matter. capitol g direct at management but an unconventional pick. doesn't have a medical ground. they have been a trained hysician or a sign tivic researcher. trump has chosen three generals advisors p team of including general john kelly for secretary homeland security, michael flynn for national security advisor and james matusz. e has extensive and recent military experience, so what does trump's choice mean for cybersecurity threats? discuss -- mattis has a terrific intellectual. an he is strategic. he has advocated for us when it's been necessary and successful. as a competent pick among trump's cabinet. the question is not about him in particular, but why it is that donald trump would say that he is looking to the defen

now there's a bipartisan group calling for a new committee on cybersecurity. i want to share for a minute why some of the senators say it's necessary. john mccain, chuck schumer. take a look. >> the president has no strategy and no policy as to what to do about these various cyberattacks that have possibly disrupted an american eleection. >> we don't want it just to be finger pointing at one person or another. we want to find out what the russians are doing to our political system. only a select committee can do it. >> all right, hallie, what more can you tell us about this? >> reporter: so you make the point, stephanie, important point that this is a bipartisan call for this select committee on cyber. and the reasons for it, and the goals for it are two-fold, according to this group of senators who are asking leader mitch mcconnell to put together this committee. number one, to drill down on russia. as you heard john mccain talk about in the sound happened? how did they interfere in the election, what did the federal government do or not do in order to allow

these are the special forces of cybersecurity. >> at november the election hacks were not an accident>> this is not a target selected arbitrarily. this is a conscious effort by a nationstate to attempt to achieve a specific effect. >> the cyberthreat may required by the fbi security and defense to private capabilities. >> for the incoming administration, but recommendation which you get them? >> we could be more responsive. >> hackers explore a security template areas. not software or hardware flaws than this vulnerability. boring, leanne. >> great report. something so many people are familiar with but that's been a problem for so long. lauren: the baltimore ravens highlights plus major league baseball but the controversial rookie hazing ritual. we will have that story appeared lea: can the fans around the world i'll choose the names for the new panda trend that the atlanta zoo? we will tell you what they are when they come back. green eras this morning. s&p at six, nasdaq back 17. you are watching "fbn:am," your first look at morning markets and breaking news. stay with us. ♪ which a

right now we're talking a cybersecurity. cyberattacks. but i just got back from afghanistan yesterday. in that region afghanistan, pakistan, syria, turkey. as the challenging graph/map. the entire world right now with those challenges. isolated to the course of the last couple days, i do believe putin is outsmarting president obama with his response. he's been allowed to take the high road, be magnanimous -- >> is it really taking the high road if you are the one who's first accused of starting this whole thick by hacking into our election system? >> this is just a very -- it is like a complicated inside baseball game that putin with his messaging, using twitter and communicating with the rest of the world. if you look at the realignment in the middle east, where syria is, there is a truce being negotiated with russia and turkey. and the united states isn't even involved. so i think it is more of a messaging, outsmarting over the course of the last couple of days. but, you know, it is impossible to defend the guy though. >> when it is so

says it's not sure who is responsible for the largest known cybersecurity breach in history. the digital theft is not recent. it occurred in 2013 more than a year before another massive hack yahoo! announced three months ago. more than 1 billion yahoo! accounts were compromised in 2013 and the breach in 2014 affected at least 500 million users. the stolen information includes passwords and e-mail a security questions. >> it's a stepping stone into other sites, so even if that person doesn't keep their financial information or medical information online, by having the credentials and logging in, it's easy to spoof that person, it's easy to act as that person. >> yahoo! blamed the 2014 attack on an unnamed foreign government. >>> so coming up on "cbs this morning," we will talk to a tech expert about the yahoo! attack and how you can try to protect >>> and now to the hack the cia says targeted the u.s. presidential election. the office of the director of national intelligence says it will release more information about the russian attempt to influence the election once its revi

he has not made cybersecurity of our government institution, of the private sector, he has not made it a priority of his administration, and i've talked with people on the transition team and i'm fairly confident, i'm very confident that donald trump is going to make cybersecurity very much a priority for our military, for our political system, and for our private sector because he understands the vulnerabilities. that is something that president obama has never understood or not even put a strategy in place to try to protect america's national security and americans' national interests in cyberspace. this is exactly where the obama administration has failed. you're exactly making my point. >> congressman hoekstra, it's a fair point. we appreciate you taking the time for a second time this week. thanks for coming on. >> yes. great. thank you. >> happy new year to you. coming up next, more reaction to donald trump's praise of vladimir putin. are u.s./russian relations heading for better days instead of a new cold war? we're also following breaking news affecting the kennedy family. a co

how should we respond from a cybersecurity standpoint? which is there are people all over the world, non-state actors and increasingly state sponsored actors who are attacking systems in the civilian economy and in the military systems as well as our general civilian government agencies. this happens every day. if you count the number of attacks, we are in a constant battle, so this is not a sort of a one time, gee, this is an unusual thing that a particular e-mail server at the dnc might have been a subject of an attack. this is happening all the time. so there's clearly a defense posture. how do we strengthen the defense capacity of the country and we've been working on ways to get more technical standards out so that more of the governmental and the non-governmental i.t. service companies have strengthened their capacity just like we talked about on the yahoo side, but increasingly, with state sponsored, there's a policy question that remains open which is how do you deter a cyberattack? there's a healthy debate to be had. no resolutio

look, cybersecurity is bigger than just our elections. would say the bulk of cyber attacks today are about intellectual property and competitiveness. you might see a heck of a lot more commercial impact less to do with what you would traditionally think of as a military operation. so foreign countries stealing intellectual property to make it harder for our u.s. firms to be successful and global markets, that's the bigger threat many are anxious about and the actors that were named maybe more involved in some of the commercial activities which have put the american economy at risk. >> aneesh, the u.s. says we could respond with our own covert cyber-retaliation. i suppose there's a chance we might have already done that, but if we haven't and we still do launch this covert cyber-attack, what might that look like? >> in 2015, the defense department did engage in sort of a strategic review about its role in cyber-strategy at large and made the comment that cyber options generally, defense capabilities are part and parcel of our operational s

. >> the cybersecurity experts that i hear speak about what causes them to lose sleep at night is often an attack on the financial sector. i'd like for you to talk a little bit about the legal restrictions. who is responsible for protecting the commercial enterprise like financial sector, not only wall street but mom and pop banks? and what needs to be done to ensure we don't wake up and look online and see our bank balances are zero? so from the standpoint of the federal government's responsibility, what we've done in that regard is to look at critical infrastructure. we talked about it a little before and certainly financial infrastructure is included there. and what we have done is prioritized our approach to protecting critical infrastructure and providing services and information to critical infrastructure holders. several years ago, the president directed by executive order the creation of a framework that was developed with industry in partnership to say, here's a set of best practices that all critical infrastruct aure owner ought to deploy. we worked very hard to get a rare thi

i dealt with cybersecurity issues over a decade ago, tamron, and at that time, i was dealing with the question of the infrastructure of the country. the electric grid, the water systems. and we were concerned about how an outside force in war or using cyber as a weapon could influence or impact or bring down our electric grid or wart syste, water systems or dams, et cetera. this is more important than elections. i'm sad to hear of putin's involvement directly in the elections but this is something more serious than that. >> congresswoman? >> i hope that the president-elect would understand his role is to protect the american people. >> but going back to the protection of the american people, yesterday, josh earnest said in his briefing that the president believed the political activity should be separate from intelligence, the intelligence community's analysis of russian cyb cybersecurity should be separate. is there a larger message if this is about protecting our electio elections, our process, why leave it now on the shoulders of the president-elect who by all accounts wants to hav

this continues to be a bit of a straw man but lend us to have better cybersecurity in operations here in the united states of america, i think that's the bigger point that we need to be looking at, 23 days to go, i don't care that the obama administration can do anything that's going to have a lasting impact on russia and advancing foreign policy interest all over the gloib. sandra: colonel west report that is turkey and russia have agreed to cease fire. do -- sandra: do you expect cease fire to last? >> no, i think the whole thing about sanctions of russia of involvement the elections is not really the issue, the issue going to trump administration is how we are going to deal with russia that has a foothold strongly in the middle east. dagen: colonel, lindsey graham, senator lindsey graham said 99% of the senator that is russia interfered in the election and to stand back and allow russia who is ascending in its power because of a obama administration, to stand back now and do nothing about that hacking, that alleged hacking, that makes us even weaker. >> well, you know, dagen, when