it is hard to see it in cyberspace.annot tell you what the san electronic army will do tomorrow in cyberspace. i don't know what north korean offensive work will be in cyberspace. we have to get predictive. as predictable as -- was, we cannot tell you who they -- who they would hack tomorrow because we don't know what mergers and acquisitions will be in china tomorrow. we don't know right now what the rules of engagement are. many folks will ask, what will -- do? i don't know. they have change behaviors. they had 18 years where they did not change the heavier but overnight they did three over things that they never did before. it is a weird face. we have other nations getting on. as the ceo we generalize and simplify. in 2015, i called the year of iran. the first time i responded to iran with our company was 2008. we did not know it was iran and someone tapped us on the shoulders and said we know you are there and you are responding with iranian hackers. they were terrible, they did not have good capability. they were o

cyberspace also placed by different rules than the physical world. a lot of our analogies for how to do things and how to go about securing things in the physical world don't work in an environment that is a motive network that operates at light speed with the concept of time and distance and proximity all have different meanings and borders than they do in the physical world. finally, this is a new environment. stretching it to the maximum cyberspace is barely over --, we have not had time to develop the body of law and policy and practice that we need to operate effectively in cyberspace. we certainly have made progress over the last 20 years including , particularly within the financial services industry. i agree with the characterization that the industry is one of the most if not the most advanced sector in the country. the level of investment from the fsi, to the system analysis and resilience center, shelter harbor, the investments that this industry has made are tremendous. i do think that there is more that we can do on the industry side and

attribution in cyberspace is very difficult. it requires concrete attribution and information derived from cyberspace and other resources. it is a very cap and mouse game that requires a lot of time and know-how. north korea has been tenuously linked to a series of attacks in south korea. particularly for one in currency exchanges. recently attacks against financial institutions in latin america. >> i want to talk about how the u.s. is responding and how they have mobilized a new cyber offensive. yesterday.est take a listen. >> we have not developed the doctrine under which that would decide when we would use these weapons and when we would not. we won't even talk about it in public. if you can't do that, you can't begin to set guide rails. u.s.w well prepared is the to respond defensively and offensively? >> the last year or so has been hard on the american u.s. intelligence committee. you have seen that with various releases from the national security agency and the cia through groups like the shadow broker's and wikileaks. ou

we bring that same commitment to protect cyberspace. yorkers manage so much online from bills to jobs and engage with the government. we will assure that we have the best protection efforts to help new yorkers defend themselves online. keeping with the mayor's vision, across all of the boroughs, we have fundamentals. one that cyber-security is a public safety issue and essential, not a luxury. we need to work on behalf of all new yorkers. too often, only those who can afford to pay are protected. this will not work when everyone is walking the streets with a powerful computer in their pocket that they depend on. we believe that cyber-security does not need to come at the cost of privacy. we are building solutions that are technically provable to respect privacy. so, what are we doing? increasing public awareness. we are committed to promoting awareness of cyber threats and advocate for the widespread adoption of best practices. we will educate new yorkers on the effective use of tools that we offer on our program. we begin with a media

strategic plan that clearly articulates how we will defend ourselves against the new threats in cyberspace. unfortunately, this call has fallen on deaf e in both the legislature and the executive branch, both democratic and republican administrations. there is far too little urgency and when you speak with generals, whenou speak with c.i.a. station chiefs around the world, nobody disputes this. everyone knows we're unprepared and we're underinvested in this domain, and yet no one is really in charge. fortunately, we are talking a major step in this ndaa to adess this deficit in our war planning. while no one piece of legislation and no single proposal can possibly address all of our cyber deficits, there is nonetheless some very good news in this ndaa for both the public as a whole and for those of us who are losing sleep about our cyber underpreparedness. the legislation we're debating today and will vote on in some form tomorrow includes a proposal to bringri nation security into the 21st century by establishing a cyberspace so layerum commission. this commission is modeled after dwight

as i said earlier, we're changing the way we view cybersecurity, cyberspace, cyberspace operations. and, in fact, when i came to the pentagon for years ago, painfully three years ago, my goodness, it was cyber what? cybersecurity. it was still -- we are still very much compliance, you know, minded. but it was about why do we have to do that? and then, and then a breach here, the breach of there. opm here. and you know what? we got this now. we know this is something we need to work with, right? so you will see that come out in many different expressions. some are more helpful than others, but we get it now. the good news is that there is focus now. the good news is there is a tension. now, our challenge is how to focus some of this. i just talked to the justice who just went to the conference. who is in the rc conference? i went there last year. 1100, you know, of the sharpest cyber vendors. it is confusing. it's very difficult to navigate through all of that so the challenge for us in the army we see all this out there, okay, that sounds good, that sounds good, that sounds good. ok

private cyberspace, it becomes clear that for reasons of company privacy, etc., proprietary business information, they don't want to talk to each other. they worry. they are facing many of the same problems and they are also having conversations with the government about what they are seeing, but it is limited to cyber experts and it is not integrated with policy. also, it was not getting to a high enough level. when i say companies knew some of what was going on in their 2014,rms as early as 2015, those were the cyber specialist, but not the leaders of the companies. this would be a safe space where companies could speak to each other, where they could speak to government, and where campaigns of action, whether regulatory, ,egal, policy, can be formed and where companies can also say what kind of protection they need from government. perspective, how often should they meet and who you think should be primary actors? >> how often they should meet would be something we would want to talk to government and industry about. i would say there should be an ongoing conversation, at least a

in that country or that place so it's this is just part of what's happening in the world and the cyberspace is just part of the battlefield a sobering intel from you todd shipley a c.e.o. of various software thank you to appreciate it thanks part. and before we go there is something different this week in the ongoing tit for political and policy tad on immigration policy in the u.s. the business community not very often are they very vocal on controversial policy matters generally we don't see them getting embroiled in contentious issues from a social perspective not only where they were vocal as reported on the program it seems that they made a defining difference as a successful businessman the president does seem to value is business colleagues opinions and relationships and this week the mass of business chieftains in opposition to his policy must have loomed large opponents included technology related companies c.e.o.'s of apple tesla and google detractors also encompass the business roundtable in the u.s. chamber of commerce and i'm not suggesting there are other factors that influenc

so, as i said earlier, we're changing the way we view cybersecurity, cyberspace, cyberspace operations, right? and in fact, when i came to the pentagon three years ago, yes, painfully, three years ago, you know, oh, my goodness, it was cyber what, you know, cybersecurity. it was still -- and we are still very much compliance, you know, minded, but it was about why do we have to do that, right? and then a breach here, a breach there, you know? opm here, you know. and you know what, we got this now. we know that it's something that we need to work with, right? and so, you'll see that, you'll see that come out in many different expressions, right? some are more helpful than others, but we get it now. and so, the good news is there's focus now -- well, no, the good news is there's attention. now our challenge is how do we channel focus some of this, right? i just talked to jessica, who just went to the rsa conference recently. who's been to the rsa conference? so, all right, i went there like last year. 1,100 of the sharpest cyber vendors, you know. it is confusing. it's very difficult to

in that country or that place so it's this is just part of what's happening in the world and the cyberspace is just part of the battlefield a sobering intel from you todd shipley c.e.o. of various software thank you to appreciate it thanks part. and before we go there is something different this week in the ongoing tit for political and policy tad on immigration policy in the u.s. the business community not very often are they very vocal on controversial policy matters generally we don't see them getting embroiled in contentious issues from a social perspective not only where they were vocal as reported on the program it seems that they made a defining difference as a successful businessman the president does seem to value is business colleagues opinions and relationships and this week the mass of business chieftains in opposition to his policy must have loomed large opponents included technology related companies c.e.o.'s of apple tesla and google detractors also encompass the business roundtable in the u.s. chamber of commerce and i'm not suggesting there are other factors that influence

i oversee 24/7 response against cyberspace operations that covers the entire agency.ur primary mission is defense of the unclassified department of defense networks. those are over 3 million hosts all over the world. everywhere from dia building in washington, d.c. to a network protecting three troops and a dog in afghanistan. you can imagine the wide variety of threats we see on a daily basis there. in addition to d.o.d., we have john's team at dhs and fbi. while we can see into the d.o.d. networks, the rest of critical infrastructure, u.s. government, those are other concerns. so we have to be in constant contact with our teammates to say, hey, what are you seeing over here? here's what i'm seeing in my space. it is a great environment to be in, dynamic and exciting. but every single day we are working a significant event somewhere across the world. >> i can imagine the visibility is just unbelievable. we have run into you at a few commercial places, like sony and others. it is interesting when you see the relationships working on the ground to help protect folks. i

there are 5 different domains you can go to war, air, land, sea, space and cyberspace. when it comes to cyberspace we are being attacked every single day thousands of times per day. our systems can't simply withstand that type of attack all the time without responding. we are working normally strengthening our defenses but as the dod actually suggested a year ago last february, we have to have a very potent offense that we are not afraid to use to go after these folks who are constantly trying to get inside our systems so we have to find out what damage was done and how they got in and what we can do to respond accordingly not just this time but in the future as well. >> the reminder this is happening all the time and whatever you can tell us let us know what you find out. thank you so mh. new tonight calls for democrats to, quote, play dirty this november with a number of provocative proposals aimed at ensuring they get and keower like putting california into 7 different states. and leslie marshall weighing in on the optimistic predictions about the midterms and why th

now cyberspace and behavior in cyberspace has to be part of that very contentious discussion.control of the 1980s,er perfectly said dr. gr, thank you. >> thank you. arthel: the president's legal team reaching out to mueller to explain why he might not sit down with the special counsel. a former federal prosecutor will break this down. >>> and mandatory evacuations are underway in hawaii. how more volcanic explosions are impacting the big island in more ways than one. get your groove on with one a day 50+. ♪ get ready for the wild life ♪ complete multivitamins with key nutrients that address 6 concerns of aging, including heart health, supported by b-vitamins. your one a day is showing. leo, i knoh!i'm late. my wallet! card lock from capital one. instantly lock your credit card. in case it goes... arrivederci. mona! that smile. technology this convenient... could make history. what's in your wallet? hesumatra reserve told in the time it takes to brew your cup. let's go to sumatra. where's sumatra? good question. this is win. and that's win's goat, adi. the coffee here is amazin

it's also about cyberspace. koreans are one of the most of sophisticated actors on the planet when it comes to cyber warfare. maria: do you believe kim that he is going to work toward denuclearization? >> i think the north koreans have consistently proved to be liars and cheats. saying that. the president had no option but to try to engage him directly. we'll have to continue to hold their feet to the fire through sanctions and economic means while keeping a military presence there. it's important for the south korean relationship, but china as well. i think it south korean businesses would like to see sanctions eventually go. we would like to see more economic trading between the two states. but when you talk about the division the -- the vision president trump was trying to present to kim jong-un, it was an economic partnership. a vision for what north korea could look like. maria: someone told me a funny story. he has a real personality. he said here is north korea, the rest of the world should see it. maybe

air, land, sea, space, and cyberspace. when it comes to cyberspace, we are being attacked every single day, thousandsimes per day. our systems can't simply withstand that type of an attack all the time without responding. we are working out not only strengthening our defenses but as the actually suggested a year ago last february, we have to have a very prompted offense but we are not afraid to go after theseolks whe constantly trying to get inside of our systems. number one, gotta find out what damage was done. second of all, gottad out how they got in and what we can do to respond accordingly, not just this time come but in the future as well. >> shannon: a reminder this is happening all the time. whatever you can tell us, let you know what you find out. senator, thank you so much. new tonight, calls for democrats to "play dirty" this november with a number of provocative proposals aimed at ensuring they get and keep power, extreme stuff like, check it out, putting california into seven different states? trace is on the

let me go back to alex in cyberspace mark a spot on it trivializes what fascism in what hitler's third reich did in the twentieth century the use of this rhetoric by the left trivializes one of the most . treacherous in dangerous and and least humane time in human history alex yeah but words have they start to lose their meaning because they're just said so often and so frivolously that there's no meaning behind it and a lot of the people don't understand that. splendid understand the history behind the words but they're just using it to stir up so much anger and so much hate and so much division that it's going to lead to a very very bad place i mean peter you had you had the home secretary couldn't eat at a mexican restaurant the other day neilston a shame tear out sarah huckabee sanders at a restaurant the other day and they wouldn't serve her so i mean it's getting to the point of basket steria you know. i worry is that someone's going to take it a step further yes and we're going to see violence we already saw it with the congressman's lease when he was on a on a foot baseball pit

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fake news exists really in cyberspace, on the internet. it is very rare to see people actually spend money to print and put something on a piece of expensive news sheet and go out there and create a fake story unless it's alien babies from the national enquirer or something like that. we know that kind of fake info-tainment sits where it sits on the shells. local organizations like this, small paper in annapolis, serving the small community, the government, the naval academy, they don't have time for that. they are doing the yeoman's work of keeping people informed. it's a shame that what happened in cyberspace may in fact have worked its way down to a small community. >> lucy, it is remarkable that these folks at the "capital gazette" published a newspaper. they did so yesterday. they were determined. their initial tweets were defiant. the idea that they are going to publish is damn paper is the way they said it. and they did. they reported on the story. i don't know how they held it together to report on this story. they reported about t

in a military way, in terms of their security and in the economic and in terms of the cyberspace to build certain lines of force in certain commonality, the common language if i may say. i would insist that that would be very important and very useful. and is going to be goodfor both our peoples . >> i think that one should be conscious about any possible expansion because there used to be a bit of a euphoria on the part of the european union without reforming anything, that really doesn't come out very effectively so it seems the european union should be more unified, more democratic and should understand what is, so i believe that there is a bit of a centralized union which shares rules from the point of view of taxation as well as point of views of labor, regulation there is also another euro is somewhat in other regions which is not part of the duplicitous and isn't just sense of course, the russia as an issue and as i often think about the russian space in the counselor because the common space of law and values identifies a broader europe, i believe this is quite feasible and i beli

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president is not half in pain the ongoing campaign of misinformation largely conductedly through cyberspace said to me the department of defense has cyberforces to disrupt the attacks it is my belief the ongoing attack may constitute such a significant attacktt so it is your worthy to have a provision to require our forces to defend against russian attack on our democracy. and then to counter that continue to buy the iraq anterior entrained program at requested funding levels lost having forces to be trained and the expected level of engagement with united states forces this is a prudent approach to recognize the continued threat while assuring appropriate oversight in a dynamic environment. i am pleased that bill also includess provisions be used more effectively to respond to allegations going forward. at the tip of the fear of the extremist groups like i said the operation forces the bill authorizes full funding including important provision enhance assistant secretary of the of low intensity conflict as the service for terry responsible for the oversight of all special operations forces

they have not curbed their bad behavior in cyberspace. they continue to try to interfere in our politics and they will continue to middle in the 2018 midterms. whether or not president trump goes in and says, hey, you know about that meddling thing, cut it out. if you are did do it, if you didn't do it, say you're not going to do it again. that will not accepted any strong signal to vladimir putin. >> absolutely not. all right, katie, the president tweeted asking when is bob mueller going to list his conflicts of interest. why has it taken so long? rod rosenstein said he is not aware of a. so it possible mueller has conflicts of interest that are perhaps being overlooked? >> no. that completely fits with the narrative that continues to come out of trump and the trump camp and his surrogates. the suggestion of a conflict of interest is done to discredit the basis of the investigation. who else to target better than robert mueller. but the thing about rocket mueller, because he keeps his mouth shut, keeps his head down and works steadfastly

they're watching what folks are doing around the world in cyberspace.e have the capacity to respond. as a diplomat, one of the fundamental things that secretary mattis and i both agree on is that a cyber attack does not necessarily need to be responded to only through a cyber means. if they engage in something that becomes a true act of war, then the response is that the united states needs to take -- aren't limited to just a cyber response. there will be times when the united states government decides that's the most appropriate place because you can in fact, do it quietly. you can respond in the cyber world by sending a message that the entire world doesn't necessarily see but your adversary does well see. but there are times when it calls for diplomatic response or other type of responses from our government. >> does the public need to know when we've been attacked? we just found out that we were told to stand down during the russian spwfrpbs in the elections. does the public need to know we're doing things in order to calibrate how to judge the pres

based journalist who covers how conflicts play out in the cyberspace. and consider too where you are seeing this story on the listening post airing on al jazeera english an international news channel funded by the state of qatar. there are obviously a range of positions on the use of chemical weapons certainly for. national were quite clear that chemical weapons have been used by the assad regime there are obviously counter-narrative with charters trying to say no chemical weapons have been used or chemical weapons have been used by the so-called terrorists meanwhile american journalists who have visited the area have found no traces of poisonous substances my position is that we should be skeptical of everything coming out of syria because at the end of the day there's not people on the ground who actually know what's happening reporters cannot get into the town civilians cannot get out so internet videos are the only evidence of the suffering all we're hearing from is biased sources whether it be the syrian government or whether it be western governme

let me go back to alex in cyberspace marcus fallen on it trivializes what fascism and what hitler's third reich did in the twentieth century the use of this rhetoric by the left trivializes one of the most . treacherous in dangerous and and least humane time in human history alex yeah but words have they start to lose their meaning because they're just said so often and so frivolously that there's no meaning behind it and a lot of the people don't understand that. splendid understand the history behind the word but they're just using it to stir up so much anger and so much hate and so much division that it's going to lead to a very very bad place i mean peter you had you had the home secretary couldn't eat at a mexican restaurant the other day nielsen they are out sarah huckabee sanders at a restaurant the other day and they wouldn't serve her so i mean it's getting to the point of. mass hysteria you know. i worry is that someone's going to take it a step further yes and we're going to see violence we already saw it with congressman luis when he was on a baseball pitch we had someone come

based journalist who covers how conflicts play out in the cyberspace. and consider to where you are seeing this story on the listening post airing on al jazeera english an international news channel funded by the state of qatar. who are obviously a range of positions on the use of chemical weapons certainly for a. national were quite clear that chemical weapons have been used by the assad regime there are obviously counter-narrative with charter trying to say no chemical weapons have been used or chemical weapons have been used by the so-called terrorists meanwhile american journalists who have visited the area have found no traces of poisonous substances my position is that we should be skeptical of everything coming out of syria because at the end of the day there's not people on the ground who actually know what's happening reporters cannot get into the town civilians cannot get out the internet videos of the only evidence of the suffering all we're hearing from is biased sources whether it be the syrian government or whether the western governments

interests from attack, including attacks that may occur in cyberspace. this is an important mission and one that this bill prioritizes by providing $8 billion across the entire cybersecurity lands escape. our nation's cybersecurity posture starts with our cybersecurity professionals. the gentlewoman's amendment provides an additional $5 million to ensure that we continue to have the most qualified and highly trained cybersecurity professionals in the world. i'm pleased to accept the amendment and i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlelady yields back the balance of her time. the gentlewoman from nevada. ms. rosen: i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentlelady yields back the balance of her time. the question is on the amendment offered by the gentlewoman from nevada. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. he amendment is agreed to. it is now in order to consider amendment number 5 printed in house report 115-785. for what purpose does the gentleman from massachusetts

cyberspace. security. if we do not do it together, it will come from other countries. china will be able to impose its own rules. environment. the oceans, for instance. here we are beyond the theological debate of climate change. the defense of the oceans. i have been repeating this for the last six months so summer ard to hear that. d to hear this.e protection of strategic sectors. on the hill you have a negotiation of a stringent rule. why don't we do it together, the europeans and americans? andefend o industrial technology goal basis? we have a positive agenda -- i believe we have to form a positive agenda. we need it. what is theook at future of our societies, what does it mean, and we have common interests emma visions come -- common interests, visions, and values. we are facing the same challenges. so we have to adapt the relatiship and do it in that involves both sides of the atlantic. there lingers some traditional thres. us raine crisis reminds there is still a significant challenge posed by vladimir putin's form of aggressiveness. president trump called for

the high tech industry which just builds incredible walls around reality and they could live in cyberspace they don't actually live in the real world so as a result like calcutta like conditions in l.a. and in san francisco the casino is growing by leaps and bounds and some of the only countries that have already been through this like soviet union you know they're actually moon in the other direction they've got their stuff together and they're heading toward a kind of a more equitable future and he also points out that environmentalism is used to justify de facto racial segregation in california's housing because they brought in all these environmental regulations in the early seventy's just when you know the civil rights movement had just started to give more equitable participation in the housing market for blacks and other groups and so they got locked out by through environmental regulations and they said legislation that would have encouraged for example more housing density near transportation hubs was snuffed out last april garnering support from less than one third of legislative