so d.a. willis poses a problem for special counsel smith. d.a. willis has signaled he anticipates announcing an indictment potentially as early as july 31st. that gives special counsel smith 11 business days to make his own announcement, assuming he wants to make it first. and that is not the only calender jack smith has to worry about. there's been endless speculation what the 2024 race means for smith's prosecutorial decisions. earlier this week in jack smith's other case against trump for trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents down at maur trump trump asked the judge to postpone the trial in that case until after the 2024 election. well, today jack smegt's team responded saying team trump and their arguments had no basis in law or fact and that the complications of a presidential candidate's trial were actually reasons to start the process sooner rather than later. one wonders if that might apply to certain other federal trump investigations as well. that was all to say there are a number of reasons why it looks like jack smith is

d.a. fani willis has in recent weeks weighed potential statutes under which to charge trump. and they are solicitation to commit election fraud, conspiracy to commit election fraud, solicitation to destroy ballots, and solicitation of a public officer to fail to perform duties. now, an example of soliciting a public officer to fail to perform duties could be president trump calling the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and asking mr. raffensperger to find 11,780 votes see that trump could win the state. experts also think the former president could have legal exposure under the conspiracy statute for the steps his campaign took to replace the state's legitimate electors with 16 fake trump electors. still with me is andrew wiseman, former justice department prosecutor and joining us now is michael moore, former u.s. attorney and partner with the moore hall in atlanta. michael, let me start with you in terms of the words solicitation and conspiracy sound alarming. what do you make of these potential statutes and how difficult or how uphill a battle fani willis will

to bring an indictment d.a. willis needs the approval of a regular grand jury like the two seated today, which happened. and the time line remains unclear when might they issue an indictment. earlier this year willis sent a letter to the fulton county sheriff alerting him of the need of heightened security and vigilance because at some point in that time frame the d.a. will announce her charging decision in this case. two months ago willis got even more specific telling the chief judge at the fulton county superior court the staff will be working remotely from august 31st to the 18th. the idea of that seems to be keep the people at the courthouse to a minimum for their safety in case people are riled up over i don't know a big criminal indictment. here are the days these grand juries are impanelled here are the dates fani willis has said she's likely to indict. see the overlap? buckle up. grand jury "b" starts thursday. grand jury "a" starts monday. and then down in florida on tuesday which is just a week from today, w

d.a. willis's comments this weekend, specifically the "ready to go" remark?ouncement from her office? >> yeah, so the d.a.'s comments over the weekend that the work has been accomplished and she's ready to go, they've been working for 2 1/2 years, this is very, very consistent with what we've been hearing from miss willis for more than two years. i speak with her about two years ago about this kind of looming suspicion of donald trump, and she said i'm going to take my time, i'm going to go through the facts, if i can go through each fact, fact a, fact b, fact c, if it leads to an indictment that's where i'm going to go. she said it doesn't matter if you're a homeless person on the streets or somebody who's the former president of the united states, if you commit a crime in her county she will bring an indictment if she thinks she can close the case. we've heard obviously from special grand jurors earlier that they expected to bring indictments. we've heard that there won't be any surprises. so we do expect something from the d.a. obviously, the tension in at

that let's be get real, it seems targeted at the reputation of d.a. willis. throw it all evidence from the special grand jury she convened. and it's ridiculous because in this case, which is a very special case, there is clear audio, where you hear trump's voice specifically asking to find 11,000 8000 votes. i think his attorneys know that there is no defense to that audio they know they have. , that's why they're trying to undercut the investigation. >> lastly juanita, they're promising some local -- . $72 million in the second quarter. the moments that drove the most action was ron desantis technical rocky tweet launch with a lot elon musk. donald trump's televised town hall, and meet the bidens fund raising contest. and from selling merch online, with more than half of the revenue coming from doc brandon related merchandise, what's your take away from the biden fund raising data? >> it's clear that people see the contrast between president biden's administration and the work that he had democrats are doing, versus the hateful agenda coming from republicans

in the courthouse workers are being told to work from home starting today as the fulton county d.a. willisnals she is ready for her case against donald trump for alleged election interference. >> i made a commitment to the american people but most importantly, the citizens of fulton county, that we were going to be making some big decisions regarding the election investigation and that i would do that before september the 1st of 2023 and i'm going to hold true to that commitment. we've been working for two and a half years and we're ready to go. >> ready to go. joining me now, nbc's blaine alexander in georgia and tim, former lead investigator for the january 6th committee. blaine, this is all ahead of what could be a big announcement from the d.a. >> reporter: absolutely, andrea. so this is the first day of a three-week waiting period. as you know, we've been watching the fulton county courthouse closely over the past two and a half years but we're going to be watching it especially closely over the next three weeks. that's because willis has made it clear, giving the strongest indication

fulton county d.a. willis trump and his allies interfered in georgia's 2020 election and if she decides to pursue charges, this is the group that will have to sign off. i want to bring in former federal prosecutors and msnbc analyst, carol. let's start with the timing this investigation started. more than two years ago. what does the seating of these two new grand juries tell us about how much longer it might take before we get a decision to charge or not to charge? >> well, chris, if there was going to ever be indictments related to election fraud in 2020, there was going to have to be a new grand jury impanelled to hear it because the original grand jury that we heard all about last year, that was a special grand jury and under georgia law, special grand juries cannot bring criminal indictments. so all they could do is make a recommendation with respect to charges and potential individuals who should be charged. we heard some hints given to us by the foreperson of that grand jury, but they themselves could n

d.a. fani willis. she's been telling local reporters, quote, some people may not be happy with my decisions and says the local sheriffs putting up security barriers is a smart move. we'll get the latest from georgia in a minutes. >>> "the new york times" calls it a month in hell for the city of phoenix. 31 straight days of temperatures over 110. hospitals still overwhelmed. billions lost in the economy nationwide. the poor suffering the most among the millions made miserable by the heat. formering governor john kasich says his fellow republicans need to wake up to the threat of climate change. why are so few heeding the call? >>> we start in florida where the world got its first glimpse at mar-a-lago property manager carlos de oliveira, the name forever added to the list of alleged co-conspirators alongside donald trump. de oliveira accused of trying to help trump delete video evidence and lying to investigators. the 56-year-old did not enter a plea because he does not have local counsel. the judge gav

d.a. fani willis decides to charge trump with criminal solicitation to commit election fraud?is to answer this is clara mccaskill, former democratic senator from missouri. always great to have. you i know you and i've been following what has been going on, there have been people who've been ridge alleges sleet falling every turn of the screw as it concerns is indictments and leading up to evidence and potential indictments. but you think the american public more broadly has a real sense of what may be coming down the pipe for donald trump as it concerns these national council? >> i think it totally depends on where you get your information and how tightly your circle of information is drawn. i'm from a state alex were a whole lot of those folks, and 50% for trump's, a whole bunch of missouri's right there, and certainly the majority of the republican party. and so they are not going to be fazed by more indictments. they have been convinced, they have totally swallowed the big lie they have become invent convinced that this is a plot against donald trump. now it's very hard for

the state supreme court rejected trump's efforts to throw out d.a. willis' decision on election interference. and that decision came from a court of mostly trump appointees. what else do you make of this decision? >> the only surprising thing is how quickly the ruling was handed down. trump's defense team had offered several ground zero in trying to get fanny willis disqualified and to get that special grand jury's evidence thrown out. the georgia supreme court unanimously rejected all of them. again, i think the signals first the complete lack of merit in trump's complaints about willis's investigation. and second, that judges are on to trump's typical strategy of endlessly filing motions to try to delay court proceedings where he faced risk. so in just a short time we'll find out when judge eileen cannon is also on to that strategy. >> thank you both so much. >>> coming up next, we'll head to capitol hill. members of congress are reacting to the target letter. you're watching "chris jansing reports" only on msnbc. reports" only on msnbc e same ai-powered

d.a. willis indicated months ago any possible charges and decisions in her investigation would come near the end of the summer, so we're really watching and waiting for that. nbc news chief white house correspondent peter alexander has those details. and coming up, we'll have much more from lithuania as the nato summit kicks off today. and also ahead we'll take a look at why former president donald trump has launched a new attack on iowa's republican governor. plus new polling that shows florida governor ron desantis lagging in the presidential primary among voters in his own state. those stories and a check on the weather when we come back. a chee weather when we come back. power e*trade's award-winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. cu

the office for d.a. willis declined to comment, as well. >> geez. >> john, this folds into your book, "the big lie," about what happened in the state of georgia, among other places, but this was a unanimous decision from a lefty supreme court. they said, "no, absolutely, this attempt, we're putting it down." the potential trial moves on. >> for now, it is another example of how the legal system held. the court system of the united states has held against donald trump's lies. all eyes will be on judge aileen cannon in florida to see what she decides about the start of the trial. this was a swift rebuke yesterday from georgia. certainly, eugene robinson, georgia has resented a particular challenge. people are worried about it, for obvious reasons. if trump can be elected again, he'll have the power of the federal government and the pow power to pardon himself. he would try. there is a ticking clock. fani willis sent word this is probably coming in early august. speak to us, if you will, how important you think th

d.a. fani willis expected to seek indictments in her cases in the coming weeks.s own investigation into the alternate electors who backed trump in the 2020 election. we're back with mike, frank, and glenn. mike, you joined us yesterday as the story was unfolding with the last sort of 16 hours have yielded is even more information in the vain of what you and your colleagues reported, that they are -- jack smith is clearly trying to understand whether trump knew he lost, and it seems based on your reporting that mark milley and alyssa farah griffin and others established that for him, and then what happens when people like jared kushner say well, i think he thought he actually won. talk about this dynamic as a pillar of jack smith's probe. >> well, look, i mean, the importance of this story and why we were, you know, so interested in writing as much as we did about it is that it gets at the question of intent, and the, you know, pretty much most former federal prosecutors will agree that the stronger intent that you have, the stronger case that you have. and the be

d.a. fani willis. also today a cnn exclusive, sources say the secretaries of state for both pennsylvania and new mexico have been interviewed by federal prosecutors in the election probe, and "the new york times" reporting that a low-level employee at the trump organization has received a letter from the special counsel on the documents case warning of a possible indictment. this is a target letter. the employee testified before the grand jury possibly about security camera footage at mar-a-lago and prosecutors are trying to determine if the testimony was truthful. so, if that all seems like a lot, it's because it is a lot. next week too on tuesday, judge aileen cannon will hold her first hearing in the classified documents case. the hearing will be about how to handle classified information involved in the case. so, with all of this i have to catch my breath. how will trump's team handle in the words of ba tbananarama, th cruel, cruel summer. the news that came most recently, this "new york times" rep

d.a. fani willis said they're ready to go.your experience, is that the type of activity and comments common with a high-profile indictment, or are we jumping the gun here? >> it appears to be, and, omar, we don't know what we don't know. but what we know, the grand jury, you gave the information, factually 2 1/2 years. we know obviously there's a concurrent federal investigation by the special counsel mr. smith which is coverage the same ground in georgia. but people need to understand that the federal government certainly has a place in this investigation, as we know. but the state upon committee alleged criminal activities would have occurred, georgia, they have a place as well. so if you have barricades and police, you know, being structured and organized and everything else in georgia, i think it means that a federal indictment certainly is being investigated. but the state indictment, it looks like it's coming down soon. and quite frankly, so might the federal as well. >> yeah. joey jackson, appreciate your insight and go

d.a. fani willis, and what about those efforts?e interviewed more than 75 witnesses, and tried to collect evidence, and trying to get the evidence of the grand jury thrown out. we are still waiting on a judge to weigh in on this argument that we have heard from the trump team, but we have heard from a number of legal experts, and they are saying that to have a judge this early without an indictment to say, throw out all of the months and months of work that the grand jury did. there is an outside chance, because things go wrong with cases and court, and we are keeping an eye on it. >> with so many indictments, and potentially with the grand jury in d.c., and what are the juror s going to see with this investigation? >> what strikes me going through and working on the documentary and piecing together what we worked on the years is how many legs of this operation there were. we have heard from the phone call from donald trump and where he called brad raf ffensperger d where people started to show nup this rural county in georgia and

d.a. fani willis. willis could be days away from securing an indictment. filings argued that willis, a democrat, would violate trump's constitutional right. willis's office declined to comment on the filing. trump's lawyers had no response. trump was asked about his first term in office and what he would do differently if re-elected. >> the statement would be people. i wouldn't put bill barr, jeff sessions. most people were good, but i had some people -- we had esper. i didn't like him. he was incompetent, i thought. we had other people i didn't like. >> why did you put them in the job? >> look, every president -- you put somebody in. you think they're good. i know people better than anybody has ever known the people. i know the good ones, the bad ones, the smart ones. >> you didn't drain the swamp like you said you would. >> i did. i fired comey. i fired a lot of people. i fired comey very early. you know, there was a question as to whether or not you could, but i fired comey. if i didn't fire comey, i don't think i would have been able to serve out my te

d.a. fani willis is also investigating the fake electors in her state. so far ms.llis has struck immunity deals with at least 9 of those 16 fake electors in georgia and expected to announce criminal charges potentially against the remaining electors and perhaps even against donald trump next month. meanwhile officials in arizona announced last week that they are investigating the fake electors in their state and at the federal level special counsel jack smith appears to be wrapping up in hez own investigation into the 2020 election for which he has reportedly interviewed officials in all seven states where republicans put forward those fake electioners. joining us now is the former u.s. attorney for the western district of virginia. he's also, of course, the former lead investigator for the house january 6th committee. tim, it is great to see you. thanks for being here tonight. i guess my first question is in terms of the fake elector, the decision to charge these fake electors, i mean how significant is this, and how do you see this potentially influencing or affe

d.a. fani willis begins a critical period in her investigation into trump's potential criminality. i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get started. we want to start tonight's show by looking back for a moment. back to july 27th 1974, which was an inflection point in our country's history. it was on that day the house judiciary committee recommended that america's 37th president, richard nixon, be impeached and removed from office. six republicans joined 21 democrats in sending that first article of impeachment against the president, which accused him of obstructing justice to the full house. and now, 49 years later, to the day, another former president has found himself accused of the very same charge again. on thursday, donald trump was hit with new counts in special counsel jack smith's classified documents case. in a bombshell superseding indictment, the ex president was charged with an additional count of willful retention of national defense information, and two new counts of obstruction. so with these new charges, trump now faces a staggering total of 40 criminal counts in that case,

d.a. fani willis signaled that her team would be preparing to bring charges in their election interference into the former president in georgia. what would you expect to happen there. >> well, that's been everyone's question. i do think that we are going to see some pretty interesting and high powered recognizable names on that docket. i do feel like donnie willis has shown herself no stranger to laws, that should mean that she is going to leave a very broad narrative around what happened in fulton county. i do think that we're going to see some high-level names, whether donald trump's name is on the indictment, that remains to be seen, it's very clear that she has no problem, if you look at the history of a prosecutor, telling stories, and weaving narratives that basically explain how people conspire together in order to commit certain crimes. that should be for donald trump, it's going to illustrate how many people he had involved in this overall scheme around the electors and around trying to -- so, that's something that i would be on the lookout for. whether donald trump's name ends up

d.a. bonnie willis just days after she seated the grand jury that would consider any criminal charges. it centers on a pressure campaign on georgia's republican secretary of state, some of it heard on the infamous phone call. >> so, look, all i want to do is this -- i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> now, trump is desperate to derail the investigation, because he knows what might be coming. a final decision on criminal charges from the georgia grand jury is expected before the end of the summer. all of this as special counsel jack smith's probe into january 6th is heating up, now faithful trading trump's inner circle, interviewing dozens of witnesses, people like trump's former attorney general, rudy giuliani, mark maddows and former vice president mike pence, who was one of the targets of the violent mob at the capitol that day. growing list of witnesses including hope hicks, and his son-in-law jared kushner, who were reportedly asked pointed questions about trump's criminal intent. they also spoke to the january 6th committee. >> jared, are you aware

d.a. fani willis indites trump next month. the lawyers moved to dismiss the georgia case, including letting it proceed would be a violation of fundamental constitutional rights while he seeks his party's nomination for the president of the united states. a former president might be facing indictment in four different cases, two state, two federal, in the midst of his bid to reclaim the white house. if recent history is precedent, that status might move him closer to winning his party's nomination. but it will not ensure that any jury determines his fate before the american people do. i want to know what you think. go to my website at smerconish.com. answer this week's poll question, will donald trump face any trial before election day 2024? joining me now to discuss, cnn's senior legal analyst, eli honig, a former federal prosecutor. is there any such thing as too close to the election when it comes to setting an actual trial date? >> there is such thing as too close to an election, michael. there's actually a longstanding tra

and, fulton county d.a., fani willis. former president, donald trump. now we're still breaking down the impacts of smith scathing superseding indictment in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, is standing by to explain why this can end up being an awful august for donald trump.

trump's team trying to delay a case where the fulton county d.a., fani willis has indicated criminal charges could come in a few weeks. all of this, of course, is happening at the same time that trump's lawyers submitted a request to delay the criminal trial that he mishandled classified documents. let's begin tonight with evan perez, "outfront" live in washington. what more do we know first of all about these interviews with top election officials in pennsylvania and new mexico? >> well, we're talking about al schmidt, who was a former philadelphia city commissioner. you'll remember that philadelphia was the focus of a lot of efforts by the former president and some of his allies claiming there was fraud in center city, pennsylvania. he's a republican. he was appointed as the secretary of the commonwealth, and he, in his interview with the special counsel, jack smith's team, he talked about some o. of the pressures that he and other officials in philadelphia faced because of the efforts of the former president and his allies. the other person who was interviewed is the secretary of

and, fulton county d.a., fani willis. we await more indictments against former president, donald trump. now we're still breaking down the impacts of smith scathing superseding indictment in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance, is standing by to explain why this can end up being an awful august for donald trump. then, abortion on the ballot. ohio will be the only state in the nation to vote on reproductive rights this year. why are gop led attack on abortion access and it battleground state is failing miserably. and, boiling point. a steamy stretch of historic heat's melting much of the country, make it the ocean right here off the florida coast feel like a hot tub. i'll ask a climate scientist if we're past the point of no return in our climate crisis. all of this and much more is coming up. a good sunday morning to you, i'm katie phang. we start with what could be another defining week for the future of the twice impeached, for now, twice indicted, one term ex president and current

d.a. fani willis and jack smith are talking true chiller or coordinating with each other in some way becausep between the two investigations. >> as to the first question, jonathan. i'm not sure that he is going to be successful in having her disqualified. we got a pretty strong review from the georgia supreme court its efforts to try to disqualify her through that particular venue. and there is really no reason to disqualify her, she says that she is had this ax to grind with him for sometime. i don't know that that necessarily means that she is somehow not capable of launching this prosecution. i think that is certainly what supreme court of georgia had to say about it. as to whether she is leading or covering with jack smith right now, i think that is surely the case. again, as clear alluded to, there are federal charges that could be brought based on the conduct of what happened in georgia, but they're also state level charges likely dropped under georgia's own law. and for those of your viewers who watch the wire, this is pretty common in lots of different criminal contexts. the idea tha

d.a. fani willis thrown off the case. >> they're really tossing anything at the wall to see what will stick. so far they've not been successful. this time they're making a filing arguing fani willis has, quote, a conflict of interest. we do expect the decision on charges, potential charges there in georgia in the next few weeks. >> stay with us as we bring in more of our legal and political experts. guys, great to see all of you. appreciate it. norm eisen, let me start with you first. what do you make of this trial date of next year? paula was saying it'll be surprising if it happens on that timetable but that's pretty far off. >> jim, having tried federal cases for more than three decades, a year is more than enough to try this case. the am prosecution narrowed from the hundreds of potential classified documents down to a little bit over 30 in the complaint. they've already provided a road map to the defense, someone unusually hear's the key documents, they're rushing through. i think those 30 steps can be met if the doj works hard and if the judge is serious about it. that's the big quest

d.a. fani willis and why did a u.s. soldier seemingly run away to north korea? what happened at the dmz and what our pentagon sources are telling us about this soldier. we're back in 60 seconds. we're back in s60econds my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. subway refreshed everything. and now, they're slicing their meats fresh. that's why this pro proffers the new grand slam ham. so does this pro. i just love a grand slam... ham. and if we proffer it, we know you'll proffer it too. i knew he'd love that sandwich. >>> from january 6th to classified documents, a hearing on a trial date, among other things, for the other jack smith case against the former president is happening right now. there is donald trump's legal team entering the courthouse earlier today. also entering the courthouse earlier today, his co-defendant walt nauta. right now the trial date for thi

d.a. fani willis told her staff to stay home and begin a three-week period of remote work. heightens security is already visible. orange barricades outside the fulton county courthouse. because of this, speculation has been less during this time period, willis will announce criminal charges against trump and his allies for their attempts to overturn georgia's 2020 election results. but here in washington, the grand river the january 6th federal investigation is set to be tuesday. sources tell nbc news that trump's lawyers were informed to expect a forthcoming indictments. the former president has denied this revelation on social media, and of course has argued that he, quote did nothing wrong. and, again last night at a rally in pennsylvania. but trump's lies have not stopped special counsel jack smith. late this week hits trump with a superseding indictment in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. adding three new felony charges and maybe a third codefendant he wasn't to be arraigned on monday. what we may witnessed this coming week will be unlike anything you've ever

fulton county d.a., fani willis, appears to be getting ready to add georgia to the twice impeached, twiceed former presidents itinerary. security precautions are already underway in atlanta, with the arrival of orange barricades outside the fulton county courthouse. as local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies are set to be coordinating their efforts. the safety measures are being deployed to stays before they proposed the timeline for possible charges in her 2020 election probe, which she signaled back in may could land anywhere between this monday and august 18th. >> joining me now, new york times columnist, msnbc political analyst and author of the devil you know. a black power manifesto. charles blow, atlanta journal-constitution political reporter, msnbc political contributor and officer -- author of flipped, -- greg bluestein. thank you very much for coming to this saturday show. greg, back and, may like i said, the indictments could come as early as monday. what are you hearing about that? >> exactly, local law enforcement officials are already taking precautionary steps f

d.a. fani willis and her investigation into trump's attempt to overturn the election in the state of georgiaerg and doug logan were busy guys. very busy. trump attorney sydney powell and rudy giuliani were the ones to allegedly coordinate all of this breaching. they use five members of the michigan plot to do some more voting machine tests down in georgia. and the data that these guys get from the alleged breach of this voting equipment in georgia was ultimately sent to none other than stephanie lambert. that lawyer who now claims she has been indicted in the state of michigan. so i know everyone is waiting with baited breath, me included, for a charging decision in from jack smith. but don't sleep on the state. michigan in georgia are busy right now. i'm next, a calendar is getting crowded as trump's legal woes pile up. what today's big announcement means for his mar-a-lago trial date, when we come back. when we come back. ...the massage chair at the mall. but...he wasn't. gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i low

d.a. fani willis, should in fact be disqualified from this case or leveling in a charging decisions.t to this at all? >> no, i don't think so. this is sort of a last desperation to get the case dismissed before she files an indictment. i would imagine that indictment is coming based on things she said, based on things the jury heads that the grandeur, and her request to the court to clear their dockets for the first week in august. i think it's an effort to throw a bit of a hail mary. but it seems that they follow these things by the book. there is no reason to recuse fani willis from this case. i suppose, you know, donald trump also wins by losing, even if he loses this motion, you will then talk about how the court is against him, as evidenced by this denial of his emotions. i don't expect that will go anywhere. i think we'll see an indictment by fani willis sometime in august. >> let's also conclude, barr, by talking about on the special counsel investigation into election interference. new york times reporting, this commissioner jared kushner, the former president's son-in-law te

d.a. fani willis, who we of course know is investigating him and others for election interference.t from the grand jury that would recommend charges. what do you think the chances are that they could be successful here? >> i don't think the chances are particularly high. on one hand, chris, you got a georgia supreme court that consists of nine justices, eight of whom were originally appointed by a republican governor. as we know from reporting on brian kemp and brad raffensperger, the georgia republican party isn't particularly trump inclined. it's also a little bit of a too little too late. they initially moved to disqualify fani willis in march. that motion hasn't been decided, nor has the trump camp made any efforts to escalate it to higher courts since then. my guess is that the georgia supreme court will allow this process to continue without interruption, and if there's a reason for appeal, take it up at a later point in time, chris. >> ken dilanian, lisa rubin, thank you both so much. >>> actors are now joining writers on the picket lines for the first time since 1960, essen

d.a. fani willis hints at final charges in her election interference case. not forget trump's other criminal case. federal judge, aileen cannon, setting a may 24th date in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. the trial would come after a slew of key states had already held their gop presidential primary elections. in just two months before the republican national convention. where trump could still be the nominee. the may 24 trial date comes months earlier than trump's legal team actually won it. and provides plenty of time to see how his legal troubles play out before the 2024 presidential election in november. joining me now, nbc news justice reporter ryan reilly is also the author of the forthcoming sedition hunters, ryan, earlier this week former trump aide william russell made his third appearance. maybe three is the charm. before the grand jury, and was questioned about trump's mindset around the 2020 election, and january 6th. could we see more key witnesses called back to this grand jury in the time, and maybe in the next couple of weeks? >> pot

fulton county d.a., fani willis, her investigation has been underway for over two years. these new jurors will be the latest panel to examine evidence in that case. >> remember, this all started back in a regular grand jury for district attorney fani willis was presenting witnesses who were willing to come in without being subpoenaed. there were lots of witnesses who were resisting those kinds of voluntary appearances. and she empaneled a special grand jury with the subpoena power. now, she is going to be heading back to a regular grand jury, that being the grand jury with the power to indict. >> the new grand juries will be hearing cases until september 1st. also tonight, there is another new development that could add to trump's legal problems. the department of justice said he can be held liable for comments he made back in 2019 about writer e. jean carroll after she publicly accused him of rape. that is a very big reversal from the doj's earlier position. the department had argued trump should have total immunity for his remarks because they were made when he was the

d.a. fani willis, just weeks before indictments are expected in.n the tail of a motion, filed earlier this week by trump's lawyers. to push the mar-a-lago classified documents child back quote indefinitely which of trump seemed gets their way could allay the proceedings indolent after the 2024 election. special counsel, jack smith responding in a scathing filing taking down trump's weak excuse as one by one in order to enforce going to trial sometime soon. telling federal district court ailing cannon quote there is no basis in law or fact for a proceeding in such an indeterminate and an open-ended fashion. joining me now is former federal prosecutor and southern district of new york and former watergate assistant prosecutor jon sale. john, welcome back to the show. , look right now in the mar-a-lago documents case, that ball is in trump appointed judge aileen cannon's court. now we may get some answers regarding scheduling at this hearing on tuesday july 18th. this action to see their hearing. what are you specifically looking for to come out of th

d.a. fani willis wrote to the chief judge in may asking judges not to schedule any trials during those datesial grand jury previously heard from 75 witnesses, including trump advisers, white house aides, georgia officials, investigae ing whether laws were broken. now we see what happens in terms of criminal charges. >> and you have new information in the classified documents case, with the hearing and the trial? >> that's right. the judge in the case just postponed this hearing that was supposed to be on friday about classified materials until tuesday. last night, trump's lawyers filed paper work asking that the trial date, which jack smith had requested be in december, be -- postponed indefinitely essentially, perhaps after the 2024 presidential election. they're saying that a december date would be a miscarriage of justice, because there are complex legal issues that need to be hashed out and they also say it would be hard to pick an impartial jury if this trial is held in the middle of a presidential election, which donald trump is a candidate. this issue will be a big test, the first big

public statements alone, the d.a., fani willis, who said august-ish is when i'm looking to make an indictmentthat a grand jury has been seated. we know that they're getting ready to make a presentation, and that case not too surprising what's coming because a special grand jury produced a report, and in that report, they said, we recommend indictments. don't know who, but obviously a key focus there, trump and the others that were physically in georgia, whit. >> whit: so, as we wait to learn about potential indictments in those cases, former president trump says publicly this doesn't impact him or his campaign for president, but privately, you're learning from your sources that there is some concern within trump's orbit. >> whit, the one thing that i hear consistently, we need to figure out what day it is because we don't know where we're going to be. it's almost like -- you know, let's pretend you're married. we both are. you have two calendars with your spouses. donald trump has two calendars, his campaign calendar and indictment calendar. they're trying to figure out where he is going to b

d.a. fani willis down there has talked about the first week in august being a time where she asked judges certain steps with some people reading into that that the indictment could come then. it's not clear whether she is coordinating with the justice department. a lot of people i talked to believed the justice department would like to go first when it comes to a threat to american democracy. but you know, that georgia case is really interesting because it's a discreet case about what happened in one state, and in theory it could go to trial faster potentially because it deals with a narrower set of issues. that prosecutor have talked about potential racketeering charges in that case. that is definitely one to watch and deeply significant. if something goes wrong legally with the january 6th case regarding jack smith and his team and that's very possible. these are complex legal the theories, the georgia case will remain with a different set of laws. >> thank you for keeping it straight for us. for me were joined by timothy hay fee, the lead investigator for the house january 6th select c

d.a. fani willis saying, quote, has not shown that this case presents one of those extremely rare circumstances. paula reid is "outfront." paula, is this essentially the end of the line, or can trump appeal further? >> reporter: erica, this was always a long shot for former president trump trying to throw out the evidence that has been gathered of this long-running investigation. he does have other pending efforts to try to block this probe. but it's unclear if those are going to be successful. and we are expecting a decision on possible charges in that case in the coming weeks. >> as we watch for that, we know that donald trump's also facing a critical day tomorrow in the mar-a-lago documents case. his attorneys will be with the doj prosecutors in a florida courtroom. among what they'll be discussing, the start date for his court trial. what are we hearing ahead of the hearing? >> reporter: well, we don't expect former president trump to be here tomorrow. it's unclear if his codefendant walt nauta will attend. but all eyes are going to be on judge aileen cannon. she is the trump-appointed fede

d.a. fani willis who has injected politics into this case. it's not even an opinion issue. she has been thrown off of part of the case by a judge who has been sympathetic to her, but he chastised her on the record. she has used subpoenas in this case to fund raise for her political campaign. this is problematic stuff for any prosecutor. that's going to come to roost later. >> i think the concern with that too is, so, the georgia case, the new york case are different cases than what the doj is doing. you can have questions about the new york case. as you mentioned, some of the questions about the motive in jo georgia. but the doj, i think their motive is completely untainted. it's literally we have to defend democracy. we have to defend the law. the problem is these kinds of cases and biases get mixed up into this big pot of soup that people are out there saying, they're just going after donald trump because he's donald trump. trump and the base that looks at this and goes, they're just going af him. >> but it's working for him. what does that say about what republican voter

d.a. fani willis for investigating him for election interference, and two, quash the final report of the special grand jury that would recommend indictments in the matter. joining me now are cynthia lost knee and msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor, former congressman david jolly, msnbc political analyst and former congresswoman, john edwards, and msnbc political analyst and washington columnist. washington post columnist. cynthia, let's begin with you. this is a grits for the mill for prosecutors looking at this. what are the implications of jack smith's team reaching out to all of the secretary of states around the country. does that say something about the idea of this investigation taking a wider scope than we first thought? >> i think we got for a long time the january six investigation is gonna be very broad because we are up here we are trying to bring the whole fake elector scandal. here is something really important i think our viewers can understand. as jack smith does these interviews, and he asks people like daryl kushner and others what was the president thinking, he d

d.a. fani willis has asked the judge to keep the report under seal, citing concerns for quote, future defendantsink four future defendants to be treated fairly, is not appropriate at this time to have this report released we are asking that the report not be released because you having seen that report, decisions are imminent >> seth: now, i gave up a long time ago predicting whether trump will ever be indicted since he seems to wriggle his way out of every jam he's ever been in. which is surprising given that he has the flexibility of a mr. potato head that got dropped in the toilet. [ light laughter ] i mean, look at him. why is he only capable of bending at the waist like that [ laughter ] he looks like one of those drinking birds [ laughter ] but i will say, if there are gonna be any indictments in this case at all, you would assume that one of them would be the guy who made the phone call. unless, of course, trump made a plea deal and turned on rudy "it was rudy's idea. we were having a sleepover, and he said,'let's do -- let's do some prank calls.' and i said, 'i don't know, rudy, we might

d.a. fani willis from the probe.ng for a quick ruling, arguing that willis could be just days away from securing an indictment. the filings argue that willis, a democrat, has a conflict of interest in the case and that allows it to proceed would violate trump's constitutional rights. the d.a.'s office declined to comment on the filings. trump's lawyers also had no other immediate comments. dave, we know the clock is ticking, that the d.a.'s august signalled some months ago keep your calendars clear in august. how do you see this playing out? >> there are no merits to his motion. it's a delay tactic. remember, the grand jury that fani willis, my counterpart in fulton county, empanelled was an advisory committee. he can't say do away with that grand jury and the current grand jury that is about to indict me. it's just trying to delay and muck things up, because he knows an indictment is coming. how do we know he's about to be indicted? well, she said prepare for major indictments and she told the security apparatus tha

d.a. there, fani willis, has been looking into whether trump and his associates broke the law in their attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in the state of georgia. the rejected request was one of two filed by trump's lawyers last week. the petition asked the court to remove willis from the case and quash a report from the special grand jury that she used during the investigation. the nine-judge state supreme court ruled unanimously against trump and his lawyers saying they did not prove the, quote, extraordinary circumstances which would be required to close the case. a representative for the former president did not immediately respond to an nbc news request for comment. the d.a.'s office also declined to comment. meanwhile joe manchin of west virginia is not ruling out a run for president next year on a third party ticket. manchin was in new hampshire yesterday with the former republican governor of utah, john huntsman, for a campaign-style event hosted by the organization "no labels." that washington-based advocacy group is looking to recruit a democrat and republican for a bipart

d.a. there, fani willis, especially because of the emails that were dropped a couple of months ago, aboutyees, working from home, and the reporting that was coming out of there, the potential for charges to be filed there, and now we have grand juries seated now until september 1st. what is the process going to be looking like from here on out, and expectations there when it comes to this grand jury? >> well, we don't know who the actual targets of the presentation are as of yet. we know that the previous special grand jury that conducted the investigation provided fani willis' office with a number of different names they made recommendations about moving forward, with respect to charges. for each defendant and for each potential charge, there is going to be separate presentation that is going to go before the grand jury. so the grand jury may, over time, get familiar with the facts, with the presentations becoming shorter and shorter because they're more familiar, but ultimately they're going to put a story in front of the grand jury and they are going to essentially allege or try to get

there's absolutely no evidence that willis, the d.a. in fulton county is quote racist at the former president said. so if we're going to play any of the sound, i want to fact check it in realtime as often as we can. thank you very much. andrew, and phil, if i don't see either of you, have a wonderful fourth. >> you, too. >> you, too. >> thanks. >>> in baltimore today, a terrible mass shooting again at a block party sunday leaving at least two people dead. 28 people injured. three of these people were in critical condition over the weekend. we're going to get an update shortly from the mayor. most of the victims were teenagers. so far, police say they have no suspects in custody as of this reporting. george soliz is in baltimore. the mayor called this attack a reckless, cowardly act. and there was more than one suspect and there's no information about these suspects. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. very strong words from baltimore city's mayor. we're expecting a press conference to begin any moment now where we're going to get an upda

there was no way they were ever going to remove willis as the d.a. or stop that investigation. that would be so unprecedented on so many levels. as a basic matter, the courts do not get involved in stopping grand jury investigations or inserting themselves into grand jury investigations. the thought normally is if the defendant has a beef with something that occurred in the grand jury or something else that occurred in the investigation, the time to bring it up is after an indictment when there's a trial in pretrial motions. so i'm not surprised. i think this was just something that was done by donald trump's lawyers to appease him so it looks as though they were trying to do something but it was all a big waste of time. >> so a hail mary pass that stopped short of the end zone. what do you expect from tomorrow's hearing in the classified documents case? >> i think this is going to be the more interesting one because judge cannon is really on the spot here. a lot of people have questioned whether she can be fair and impartial. i think she's going to show she is. i think the tru

d.a. fani willis will begin a two-week stint working from home today, a move seen as preparation for filing allies for a crime for alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election results should be announced in the coming weeks. joining us live from the fulton county courthouse is nbc news correspondent blayne alexander. the fact they're going from miami to washington and now to fulton county shows just how much legal trouble donald trump is in. give us the latest there. we noted that fani willis and her staff are working from home. what's the anticipation on charges sooner than later? >> reporter: i think it's high. of all the time we've been watching this courthouse behind me for the better part of 2 1/2 years, i think we'll be watching it most closely for the next three weeks. let me tell you what we do know. we do know that this is the beginning of a three-week period during which district attorney fani willis wrote a letter to law enforcement saying she's going to have 75% of her staff working from home. the only people in this building are those that are essential and need to be in the