. >> host: and we've been talking here on booktv with dan ariely, duke professor, author of three books. the most recent is this one, "the honest truth about dishonesty: how we lie to everyone, especially ourselves." thank you, professor. >> guest: my pleasure. >> and now on booktv another interview from booktv's college series. professor eduardo bonilla-silva talked about his book, "racism without racists," in which he argues we do not live in a postracial society. instead, he says we're now living in an age of color blind racism that manifests itself in many ways, less overt than the racism experienced by past generations of non-white americans. this is about saw minutes. 15 minutes. >> host: and now joining us on booktv on c-span2 is eduardo bonilla-silva. professor silva, what do you type here at -- teach here at duke university? >> guest: sociology. >> host: and you are the chair of the department -- and your most recent week book racism without racists. racism without racists, what does that mean? >> guest: what i'm trying to address in this book is the idea that racism goes beyon