dan hoffman, good to see you, thanks for joining us. you say there are two issues at play, what are they? >> the first is a duty to warn. when we collect intelligence even if it is battlefield, tactical intelligence of a sort that we collected where captured taliban militants were divulging they were receiving bounty payments from russians to kill american soldiers we would disseminate that information immediately because his threat information and we would never want to hold back on that to collect more intelligence. we would do that separately but got to get the information out. the second is a policy issue where we take action beyond defending ourselves, this is where the united states would determine if intelligence rises to the threshold where we would take countermeasures against russia. expelling russian officials from the united states which we have done before or increasing sanctions on russia and the bar for that is much higher. when the president becomes involved it is up to the idiosyncrasies, some presidents like to be invo

we have former cia moscow chief dan hoffman. ident when he says he wasn't briefed about this? >> i mean the president said he wasn't briefed. i think he is probably distinguishing between an oral briefing and a written briefing. it doesn't appear he received a oral briefing. let's make it clear we did take action on that intelligence. there is duty to warn based on tactical intelligence, that they were reportedly paying the taliban money to a get u.s. soldiers in afghanistan. that threat reporting was shared widely to soldiers out in the field and coalition forces. we have over 1000 british soldiers and italians and others. we did that. second issue simultaneously what do we do about it? that is where you bring the president in, have him consider options if this does indeed turn out to be true, what policy options might he choose to counterrussia? >> david: i will talk about russia, the wouldn't should be made, even without a bounty, the russians have been empowering taliban to kill u.s. service people for years, right? >> right,

elizabeth: let's welcome former cia station chief dan hoffman. dan, your reaction.nk what's important to remember this was tactical intelligence obtained from captured taliban fighters. and i know from my own experience having served three years in combat zones those starts of battlefield interrogations from especially taliban if fighters, they're often interested more in influencing than they are in informing. the administration, the intelligence community did the right thing. they disseminated what was duty to our soldiers on the front lines and coalition forces immediately, and then before taking any policy action, they sent out requirements so that the intelligence community could collect intelligence and determine the veracity of this reporting. the last thing you want to do is expel russian officials or pile on the sanctions before you actually confirm what was going on. elizabeth: yeah. we've got defense secretary mark esper and general mark milley, the chair of the joint chiefs of staff, testifying to congress that u.s. defense intelligence agencies could no

. >> dan hoffman joins us. >> great to see you too. >> i trying to disrupt research by doing this orre they trying to get out vital information? >> it is a reasonable question. it is an advanced persistent threat the g.i. you have deployed in the past including to hack into the dnc in 2016. they hack by planting malware into the system and while their goal according to what our government is saying is to steal intellectual property, i certainly believe that if possible they could inadvertently cause damage to our data which would irrevocably change and impede, given it is rush i would not put it past them to interfere with her ability to make a vaccine to causes economic harm. todd: tim kane is getting political on this and here's what he had to say. >> it screws up vaccine development. it will affect millions of people. no one has confidence the white house will take this seriously and push back on russia. todd: is that a concern? are we pushing back on russia on this? >> the first thing we did with this news reports was issue a public service announcement to our citizens, the scien

former cia officer dan hoffman had this to say in the last hour. >> when the president becomes involved it is up to the idiosyncrasies of the president, some like to be involved from an early stage. once we have more detail and clarity on the intelligence at hand. >> reporter: democrats blasting the president for his response, iraq war vet seth moulton says this amounts to the highest betrayal. >> if this is treason i don't know what is. as a second lieutenant if i disregarded and intelligence report, didn't bother to read it and it got my marines killed i wouldn't be tweeting excuses, i would be in prison because that is the standard of accountability for the most junior officer in the united states military but that does not apply to the commander-in-chief. >> the ranking member of the senate foreign relations committee bob menendez is proposing sanctions as part of the annual military spending bill being debated this week. >> thank you very much. now to the story, gavin newsom is reversing the state's plan to reopen. ending indoor operations for businesses including restaurants in 19

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dan hoffman, former cia. nice to see you. good afternoon to you. can you make sense of this story because there is confusion. how do you spell it out? >> i think there's two things happening here simultaneously. when we collect threat intelligence, threats to our soldiers for example on the front lines in afghanistan and coalition forces, the threshold for sharing that is low. that would have been shared immediately. not only to warn our soldiers and our coalition partners, but because we want to collect more intelligence to test the veracity of what was sourced to interrogations. taliban fighters who had been captured. the second thing that's happening and if this is in the national security council is what do we do about it? that is where the national security council advisory wasn't ready to bring it with the president. when you're going to bring it to the president you are thinking about what countermeasures we might take. it might be premature to do that if you have been tested in the veracity reporting period every president is different. the

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let's bring in dan hoffman, a fox news contributor. heard morgan saying that there are vital assets there and i want to compound that if i can by putting up this tweet from marco rubio. he said "china's consulate in houston is not a diplomatic history. it's a center of the vast network of spies, an influence operations in the united states. now that building must close and the spies have 72 hours to leigh or face arrest. he says this needed to happen. you agree? >> yeah, i do. and this is something the trump administration has done previously with russia. we closed russia's consulates in seattle in 2018 and san francisco in 2017 over much of the same concerns. that the russians were mounting massive espionage operations. i'm quite sure that the fbi, as morgan said, a long list of these attacks on our academics. look, houston is an attractive target. nasa is there. it has an expansive manufacturing base and medical research center. it's of high interest to the chinese for sure. >> trace: you talk about the two chinese hackers. i heard a

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