. >>> daniel dale is writing a first draft of history. he is the washington reporter who is keeping an invaluable record of donald trump's lying. all future historians of the trump presidency will be reading daniel dale's work. daniel dale's meticulous record of trump lies shows us that during the campaign season trump did the impossible or at least what many of us would have thought was impossible. donald trump actually increased his lying. daniel dale of the toronto star who has tirelessly fact checked every single trump lie reports that in the month leading up to the mid-term elections donald trump made 815 false claims. that's the same amount of lying told in his first 286 days in the presidency. daniel dale reports that, quote, trump made 664 false claims in october. that was double his previous record for a calender month, 320 in august. trump averaged 26.3 false claims per day in the month leading up to the mid-term election on november 6th. in 2017 he averaged 2.9 per day. donald trump made more false claims in the two months lead

joining us now, daniel dale, washington bureau chief for the "toronto star."f you aren't following him on twitter, he's been tracking trump's lies since inauguration day. and rick wilson, mike lubica whose book comes out tomorrow and jackie allen, the author of "the washington post" power up newsletter. sam stein is still doing his time here at the table. let me start with you, daniel. first of all, what you do is truly a service in these times. so thank you. i want to ask you about that. but get at this. get at just the projection, the sort of depravity of the lies about this cruel and inhumane policy. >> sure. so this was a policy that was proudly announced by the trump administration by then-attorney general jeff sessions. it was defended aggressively by various other officials that want to seem tough. this was something that they chose as not only an immigration strategy but more than anything, a political strategy. and then when they started taking fire over it, trump simply disowned it. he pretended he had no choice in the matter. said this is the law. i

like to bring in washington but owe chief daniel dale. u have chronicled a lot of what donald trump talks about and we have heard him talk a lot about how much he likes the saudis. let's go back a couple years. listen with me. >> i like the saudis. they're very nice. they buy all sorts of my stuff. all kinds of toys from trump. they pay me millions and hundreds of millions. saudi arabia and i get along great with all of 24e78. they buy apartments from me. 40 million, 50 million. am i supposed to dislike them? i like them very much. >> daniel, here's the issue. there are lots of reasons why saudi arabia probably needs america more than america needs saudi arabia. saudi arabia's not buying hundreds of millions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars of stuff from america as donald trump claims. $14.5 billion. not hundreds of millions of jo b -- jobs from saudi arabia. this sounds -- this smells weird. it smells like donald trump is going absolutely out of his way to not upset the sensibility of the saudi rulers. >> i agree. and we have s

msnbc contributor, gabe sherman, jill wine banks and washington correspondent for the toronto star, daniel dalee the graphic now. let me show you guys it. i have it here in my hands as well. there it is. so if you look at the bar grar o graph, on the far end, eric, you can see the story that got the most coverage. the stories that got the most sentences by topic and this is from may of 2015 to november of 2016. on the far left end of the screen, clinton foundation is the second highest but look at the e-mail scandal. then benghazi is up there. go all the way in and you can see trump immigration got about, you know, a little more than half of the attacks that e-mails got. e-mails were really the story of the 2016 campaign. so much so that i have one more graphic and this is a word cloud. i don't know if people can see it in my hand. we'll put it up on the screen. if you asked voters what they understood, you can even see it. you probably can't see any of the other words on my word cloud, but e-mails were huge. if you go to donald trump and you asked what do you know about donald trump, there wer

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daniel dale is a full time trump fact checker. >>> there are three storylines heading into tuesday's midterm showdown. number one, this election is clearly a verdict on president trump. that's how it is shaping u. that's how it is being framed by the press. it is also being framed as the year of the women. so many female candidates running for office and so much activism and enthusiasm this year especially on the left. we will see how it translates on tuesday. the third storyline i would bring up are the kind of assumptions we are seeing from the talking head class assumptions how the house is going to swing and what is happening in the senate. i am wondering if we learned anything since 2016. let's start with the panel, david zer wick, eliana johnson, molly ball and nicole carroll, the editor in chief of u.s.a. today. molly, those three storylines i am talking about, am i getting those right? are there others you would add to the list heading into tuesday? >> i think all of those are about right. i think in terms of the issue set this is definitely an election that has shaped up to

washington correspondent of the trontso star daniel dale has also been keeping track of the lies.ints out patterns have emerg emerged. listen to the president long enough and you can almost sense when a lie is coming. if he tells a story in which an unnamed person calls him sir it's probably invented. if trump claims he has set a record, he probably hasn't. if trump cites any number at all, the real number is usually smaller. i believe that journalists need to be just as tireless in combath the president's lying as the president is in telling the lies no matter how repetative or podantic it can make us seem. bret stevens is joining the panel and karine jean-pierre, senior adviser to moveon.org. you have sort of pointed some of the dots that connect donald trump's conduct in office to that of autocratic leaders. the lie seems like the biggie. >> yeah, we should be careful in our own speech to distinguish untruths where he just doesn't know what he's talking about and the actual lying. and there's plenty of lying. if you look at the totalitarian states, soviet union, nazi germany, p

the toronto star, daniel dale said, what's interesting is not that trump sometimes misspeaks.her than apology he'll always say, or the correct word as if it's a subjective choice between the correct word and the equally vald word he used. this is, again, this is the orwellian back to this, this is the orwellian side of what he is telegraphing to his 40% of the country. the town, it is paradise or pleasure. this town i visited, it is not only called paradise, it is pleasure or paradise. >> it's interesting. it's odd. and this sort of strange forced a agnosticism, he has suggested that important, notable things aren't notable. this is something we've seen in the course of the fallout from murder of jamal khashoggi. he says it is impossible to know whose responsible for the murder, impossible to know if the crown prince of saudi arabia had anything to do with it. the reality is that the cia which works for the president assessed yeah, we do know and we know it was the crown prince that wanted this to happen. he talks about climate change the same way. says we can't know if the cl

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