lord dannatt. thank you very much indeed for joining dannatt.hank you very much indeed forjoining me this indeed for joining me this morning on gb news. we're just waiting for keir starmer to speak. he's going to be addressing the scottish labour conference, is going to be speaking about reform of all things before he does that, before i get the go to go live to starmer, just have a quick chat with you. andrew pierce lord dannatt there being, as we would understand, typically hawkish on the military front, can starmer be the churchill figure he needs to be next week in washington? >> it's a noble idea, but i suspect not. he certainly hasn't got the oratorical skills, has he? but what he's got a simple solution. kemi badenoch is written about in one of the papers today. cut foreign aid. >> i did make this point with james cartlidge. he's going on about the camera. hang on. i think we can now cross live. no, we're just going to look at footage. >> yeah. cut the foreign. >> yeah. cut the foreign. >> aid budget preamble. he's walking onto the stage.

lord dannatt already said it should be 3.5%. i thought of something today.ee if you go with this, leo. obviously the war is absolutely horrific in terms of lives lost and so on. but in a way, putin in a way, given it's already happened, has he done as already happened, has he done as a kind of favour? and what i mean is europe and britain now have to ask, who are we again? right. because we're talking about defence spending and the number is one thing. but then what are we actually defending and who are we. what is it? what are our values and what are we defending? don't you think? it just it just raises those kind of existential questions for europe and the uk. >> yeah, absolutely. and it's like that meme, you know, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times. you know, we've had good times and they've created created weak men. and then the weak men have created hard times. it's literally happened. and i think we need to we need to you know, the eu has had all this money to spend. it's been it's been overtaxing its citizens. so it's had all this

dannatt yes, this is just sort of like a general question in the past we've certainly had many events on mostly treasure island and they do bring some income i believe . and are we looking forward to bringing more things like well you know there was treasure fest which i guess will not ever be coming back but are there other things? do we have any staff that's actually looking for ways to generate income? yeah. well the both income and activity one one group of activities is gold bar whiskey has been kind of quietly doing some events at building one and we want to make sure we're we're doing more to get information out about those to to island residents and others. for instance, last year they did a series of monthly movie nights where they did a pop up screen in the building one parking lot and you know, showed a series of movies with ties to treasure island the but we want to make sure that we're doing a better job of publicizing those things. not only that that one treasure island or to sponsor but that are going on on the island. we are having conversations between our staff and t

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richard dannatt, the former head of the army, says you'd need tens of thousands of forces to rotate onix month troop rotation. we can't really do that. the current numbers of the size of the army, i think, is around 80,000. not possible at the moment. but again, we're looking forward into a spending review on defence as much as all of on defence as much as a

lord dannatt has already said 3.5 is what we need and i'm sceptical about all of this.w are we going to carry on aiding ukraine without the us backing? it's completely absurd. pete hegseth said he won't back the troops. us won't back the troops with article five if you know they're on the border or whatever it is. so that would make them sitting ducks. that's nato. we don't have the number. yeah, but how can we do it without being backed by. we've been doing it without nato already. i mean, like ukraine is not in nato. who tried mediocre comedian who tried tried his best but failed. and that's like what don ward [000:05:58;00] [000:05:58;00]

richard dannatt, the former head of the army, says you'd need tens of thousands of forces to rotate onp rotation. we can't really do that. the current numbers of the size of the army, i think, is around 80,000. not possible at the moment. but again, we're looking forward into a spending review on defence as much as all of whitehall. the target for this government is to get a 2.5% of our gdp spent on defence. trump wants to double that to 5%, but of course the us is just over 3%. so big pressure i think, on the armed forces, the peace dividend we've known for two, 2 or 3 decades now that is fast coming to an end. >> interesting coming to an end. >> i