of falling into the trap that david cameron did, because of the noise around nigel farage being picked are talking about david cameron, he faced a situation where in 2014 ukip one the european elections, tories were defecting to ukip, you could credibly argue that one of the reasons david cameron won the election of 2015 was that he dealt with the ukip threat, to extent, by promising a referendum. it isa extent, by promising a referendum. it is a dilemma that conservative leaders face. to some extent, him not being aligned to a political party, as he is now, gives him freedom, in a way to stop a lot of people in this debate talk about the establishment, don't they? is in as you are part of an organisation, a political party, to a degree you become hemmed in, don't you? about what you can say and whether you will be on the side of your party somewhere in between. not an easy for politicians at the moment. no, and if you can argue or persuade people that you are antiestablishment, in this day and age, it is powerful. it doesn't necessarily have to be true. president macron argued he was

and then, you know, david cameron called the referendum, the referendum took lace, everything changedt into meltdown, and suddenly, if i was going to write about these characters at this moment, there was no avoiding brexit. it would have been absurd to try to write a novel which didn't deal with it at all. it does preoccupy the nation. what i find interesting about even that description of how you came to it, you are continuing a journey to these characters which began, well, we have seen them going all the way back to the 19705 and 19805. so they have lived their british live5, back to the 19705 and 19805. so they have lived their british lives, and it has culminated, at least for now, in brexit. there is a continuity there. i wonder if that is your thought about brexit itself. we are tempted to see it as a phenomenon that began with the referendum, or the decision to call the referendum, in 2015, 2016, you place the roots and origins of its much further back. well, a novel begins -- the novel begins in may 30 ten with the general election of that year. —— may 20 ten. it seems like

had to do it it was in the manifesto but i was in westminster at a time in parliament when when david cameron was prime minister and there were many labor m.p.'s who also wanted that to be a referendum on whether the u.k. should stay within the e.u. so it was not just on the conservative benches although it is very clear that they have had a huge problem with europe for decades but also m.p.'s within labor who don't like the. very different reasons they think it's a capitalist union and. those in the right wing think it's essential just union so there was a big clash and it kind of was possibly inevitable that it was going to happen at some point and we brought you to. brought this up many times since the referendum in two thousand and sixteen but the referendum was eight advisory referendum it's not legally binding which means lawmakers do not have to follow what the people values them to do in the referendum considering that why. i mean it seems like everyone has acted as if it were binding why why we had that reaction because that was not put to the people when. they were told in out refer

melissa flee to david cameron prepares to break his resignation to the nation. brbritish people have mamada veryry clear decision to tae a different paul. and as such i think the country requires fresh leadership to take it in this direction. a month later holmes secretary theresa may takess charge of downingng street's we are living through an important moment in ourr country's history. the new prime minister h has an enormous task ahead of her. delivering brexit small holding together at the phone did conservative policy. on a divided united kingdom. the twenty ninth of march two o thousand seven scenesf the two year countdown begins. as easy you council president donald tusk receives the letter from the brititish leader formally triggering on school. fifty negotiations gets off to a starts. as do the woes of theresa main. among places she calls for a snap general election. how to gamble on the eighth of june does not pay off? instead she lososes h her majority i in parliamentnt. tions deep in between her policy members pushing for soft drink six and those wan

it is worth remembering that when david cameron ra nter to remembering that when david cameron ranterrior to the referendum that... he did not get much help. if the opinion union had been a little bit more helpful we probably would have had no vote for brexit. the same applies now. the european union, somewhat recast by the elections in may, by the change, if not in leadership but the change of attitude and leadership in france and germany, resents the possibility for renegotiation some weeks or months from now which would be a happier outcome for now. weeks and months, we may or may not have. what you think of the extension on article 50? i see no way around the extension because clearly we're not going to resolve this by march the 30th. the extension runs into brother complications. there are elections in europe, written with still be technically a member. we hold elections that the european parliament, that seems odd. there forces and processes that might yet further but i think the real problem is the instruments by we might muddle through for some effect is the two major politica

to cover the story here's david cameron's former adviser steve hilton on whether island should leave the e.u. i think they should i was a great greatly in favor of. felt that it was important for a country like the u.k. and it's just not in the culture and they seem to like me my experience would be that the irish seem to like europe more than. the british i think money has got a lot to do with it because ireland gets more money from the e.u. and it pays into the well let alone ireland where the yellow vest movement is now taking hold governments are arguably also in chaos both here in the u.k. and in the us i'm now joined by the b.b.c.'s former chief washington correspondent and once independent member of the u.k. parliament martin bell his new book war in the death of news from battlefield the newsroom which recounts his time as a war reporter in vietnam the middle east. and northern ireland is out now martin thanks for coming back on you begin the book on the fields of occupied cyprus this week turkey saying brics it may affect the u.k.'s role as a guarantor power maybe some peopl

prime ministere david cameron made the process sound straightforward.of the vote was the united kingdom voted to leave, he would go across to brussels and trigger article 50. both of you ended up leaving the government. do you think both of you have a the outcome ofto what has happened in the u k because it was your government that brought the vote to the british people. and myselfid cameron and others did spill out for the country that there would be .onsequences for leaving the eu i would argue that the process has been straightforward. it has all been done in an orderly way. the problem is not the process, it is the policy. what do people want our relationship with the european union to be. we want no relationship or a close relationship? that is the hard politics. ort is not about the process whether we have the right civil servants or negotiating team. it is about fundamental contradictions in what brexit promised. jonathan: i do not think many of us thought it would take as long as it did to trigger article 50. it took a number of months. here we

you were an advisor to david cameron. what would your recommendation be on this shutdown. he'll come out with a major announcement in less than 24 hours. is he going to say iminvoking an emergency order? i am going to build the wall. we'll end the government shutdown. what would you tell him to do if you were advising him, steve? >> the background to this is that he's facing a crisis that's been 20 or more years in the making. he has an opportunity to show he's the reformer and he has big ideas to fiction this problem that other politicians have left. i think he can take one or two more steps to show that he's the reasonable one who wants to fiction the problem. i think he should come out with a public offer to the democrats, including the wall of course. but adding to it substantial reforms that democrats supported in the past on the dreamers and other aspects of the immigration system. and if the democrats reject that, they will look completely unreasonable. at that point he can go to the national emergency. i think one more round of putting a reasonable offer out there.

yeah i think everyone you know pretty is happy remain is on happy the right wing into politics david cameron was trying to piece then they leave us all happy it's just a completion of the mess we have for our high order. and no i don't think she should resign because i don't think that will solve it all anybody does is resign nowadays people should stay in and try and get the job done incredible you hear all these positions basically on opposite ends of the spectrum much like what we're seeing play out playing out in parliament recently so bear let's let's go to the scenarios because it looks like she is indeed going to survive this no confidence vote what is next for theresa may what is next. for the country. when it's most likely that she's going to talk to parliament and find some sort of common ground and maybe some form of soft of rexx it like the norway model the so-called no way model where britain would stay either maybe in the single markets. or customs union these are all options that she's going to explore it doesn't really look like any of them are going to have a majority in par

know if it would've made a difference booklet people felt like they had to stay out of it and david cameron if that kind of affection was shown with it was a made people's minds. certainly very heart—warming. thank you both very much. that's it for the papers for this hour. don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. it's all there for you seven days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers. and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. thank you to my guests, david davies and jessica elgot. we'll all be back for a slightly longer look at the papers at 11:30pm, but for now, goodbye. and for cold night with some widespread frost for front and areas of sleet and snow and snow and it will arrive across northern ireland during the overnight and could see over the high ground. not quite as cold in the night as it will be elsewhere across the country. widespread blue colours indicating a pretty sharp frost with the risk of ice across eastern areas to watch out for tomorrow morning. plenty of sunshine from the word go for central and

themselves a certain goals and if they can't do this, it probably means my time is up, which is what david camerond he doesn't believe in brexit in any way so it would be wrong for him to lead his country into negotiating the deal with the eu and he left. nobody really forced him at that point. but her character, who knows. it is very interesting, she just presses on. almost as if she is apart from the storms erupting around her. i imagine her saying different things over the next few days. i find it ha rd over the next few days. i find it hard to say, i resign. i find over the next few days. i find it hard to say, i resign. ifind it difficult to hear her say those words. similarly, iwill difficult to hear her say those words. similarly, i will now advocate a referendum and i will negotiate norway plus, all the things that she might have to say because of the parliamentary dilemma, ifind because of the parliamentary dilemma, i find it because of the parliamentary dilemma, ifind it hard because of the parliamentary dilemma, i find it hard to imagine her saying those things, but something has got to

joining us now is steve hilton, host of the next revolution former strategy director for david cameron. first of all, nobody expected a defeat this big. it was a huge margin. i'm just wondering everybody is saying okay she's not going to lose the no-confidence vote tomorrow, but her defeat was so big, maybe she will? what do you think? >> i agree with ashley. i don't think that she will. in the end, the conservatives who voted against her plan on brexit, what they don't want, they may not want her plan, but they certainly don't want a general election. if she's voted down in the confidence vote, that means there will be a general election. and they're risking having a labour government under jeremy corbin which they don't want either. the real problem here is a structural problem. it is a little bit like the divided government situation here in america that we're seeing. only much more intense. you see, the problem is you had a direct vote on brexit, but in parliament, you have a majority against brexit. and that's basically the division, the structural division which means that the re

and at one, a brexit catch up with ex—pm david cameron, who says...mentary. ..and then runs off. simon vaughan counting down a political week dominated by brexit. theresa may's deal is dead, but her government survived a vote of no—confidence and she's still prime minister. although if you're watching this on the iplayer, you might want to double check that. so in a sense, nothing has changed, but she will return to the commons on monday to update mps, and there will be more significant votes on january the 29th. as we've seen, the speaker's appeal for zen got a mixed response from mps. but could another approach bring calm to the commons? and finally, can i leave the house with an uplifting and rather wise thought from winnie the pooh — if the person you are talking to doesn't appear to be listening, be patient. it may simply be that he has a small piece of fluff in his ear. the tiggerish andrea leadsom. think it over, think it under, and dojoin keith macdougall on bbc parliament on monday at 11 o'clock with the latest on the prime minister's brexit

twelve voters in the city of manchester rejected having elected mayor but a couple of years later david cameron's westminster government imposed them on the region anyway late last year the e.u. is top court ruled that the u.k. can unilaterally stop gregg's it stressing that the twenty sixteen referendum here wasn't legally binding so technically in terms of the law the u.k. government is free to do whatever it chooses be it plowing ahead with leaving or nothing into river shore stopping brags it would be a failure to deliver on the will of the people but after two and a half years of political turmoil here in the u.k. public opinion has shifted the latest polls now show that some fifty six percent of u.k. voters would say no to bragg's it and given the circumstances there are now plenty of politicians he can break the bread as it promised and sell it as the noble thing to do. just time lining things while speculation over a second vote continues trees a man has just three days to come up with a new deal to present to parliament on monday. ok to the headline stories hundred russian part troopers

this is david cameron's responsibility. he called for the referendum. think if you look over the last couple of years, we tried our best bending over backwards to accommodate the request of the british government pre-brexit, working with david cameron in seeing what we could do, but also after brexit, then working with theresa may to get a good deal for both sides. so i don't think koogman is right when he criticizes the european commission on this. >> franz timmerman, thank you so much, vice president of the european commission. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> those are really important cautionary words right now from such a senior eu official. we tried our best. we bent over backwards to give britain what it seems to want. now it's up to them. and it does seem there is more politics even in art today than ever before, and we'll discuss that a bit with our next guest, the actor richard e. grant. he's the star of the cult classic "with knell and i," but now at 61, he's taken on a role where he's clinking drinks with melissa mccarthy in, can

twelve voters in the city of manchester rejected having elected mayors but a couple of years later david cameron's westminster government imposed them on the region anyway late last year the top court ruled that brags it can be reversed unilaterally by the u.k. stressing the referendum in june twenty sixth in wasn't legally binding so technically in terms of the law the u.k. government is free to choose whatever route it wants spirit plowing ahead with gregg's it or snapping it into reverse shore stopping brags it would be a failure to honor the will of the people but given the political turmoil that unfolded here in the past two and a half years there has been a shift in public opinion the latest polls show that now fifty six percent of u.k. voters would say no to bragg's it so given these circumstances there are plenty of politicians here keen to break the brag zip. you said as the noble thing to do. and just time learning things while speculation over a second vote continues british prime minister just three days to come up with a new deal to present to parliament on monday right still to come

on a similar theme, the wives of david cameron and michael gove have overcome their differences and athe expressed again, the fallout of the brexit story. david cameron who is often forgotten now, he and michael gove had a falling out when michael gove had a falling out when michael g ove we nt gove had a falling out when michael gove went to brexit site. they have never reconciled but the story is that the wives, the families are quite close, michael's wife is godmother to one of the camera and children. because it wasn't in response that she said that she is notjust a vassal of response that she said that she is not just a vassal of her husband. response that she said that she is notjust a vassal of her husband. in some ways you may be known but you may not share their politics. semantic cameron also used to try and stay away from the limelight. she did not intervene in the debate. there is absolutely no reason why they cannot be friends but it is a drama and journalists enjoy this civil war. talking about drama. andy murray and that emotional scene as he announced his retirement. h

better just clement attlee did someone who would not agree is the grandson of clement attlee david cameron's former whip in the house of lords british tory government dear lord athlete who served in yugoslavia and in iraq joins me now law that they welcome to going underground so before we get to defend masses why do you think your grandfather's name was invoked time and time again not only at the tourism a bricks a deal vote which was the worst vote for a prime minister in recent memory maybe ever let alone a no confidence motion on wednesday where the closest thing about clam was his brilliance holding together a disparate disparate and talented team and you saw when he went sick he did occasionally the team fell apart but as long as he was. as well he held that team together and that's what we're missing now there are only two promises to maybe change anything a post-war one was a clam and there was no exception but what does his legacy have specifically to do with.