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here is congressman david cicilline, who's a member of the democratic leadership, just a little while ago. >> now they're making this really broad claim that essentially says the president and his team are immune from ever coming before congress. that's legally incorrect and certainly a court will ultimately have to decide that. but i think let me be clear, if don mcgahn doesn't testify, it is time to open an impeachment inquiry. >> let me make sure i heard you correctly there. if mcgahn does not show up tomorrow before your committee, you say it is time for democrats to begin an impeachment proceeding? >> an impeachment inquiry, absolutely. we are really left with no other choice. >> more on that escalating showdown, i'm joined by chuck rosenberg, a former u.s. attorney and served as chief of staff under then director james comey. he has a new podcast out called "the oath." i'm also joined by harry litman, former u.s. attorney and assistant attorney general. we've got 30 channels of news on this as we get the showdown between the president and congress. i want to start on the first a

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joining us now is congressman david cicilline.and, a member of the judiciary committee. sir, thank you so much for being here tonight. i really appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. god to be with you. >> i know this is a story that is still developing over the course of today and into this evening. let me just ask what your latest understanding is of where we are with the subpoena, a potential vote to hold the attorney general in contempt on wednesday morning. >> well, you described it accurately, rachel. the department of justice officials are going to meet with the staff of the judiciary committee tomorrow in one final effort to reach some sort of resolution of this disagreement. but the contempt citation has been set for wednesday. the committee if an agreement is not reached tomorrow will move forward to judge the attorney general in contempt for his failure to comply with a lawfully issued subpoena. >> what would be the material impact of him being held in contempt? obviously it's something that is only rarely ever happened.

now, somebody in the heart of the fight over don mcgahn's testimony, rhode island congressman david cicilline, member of the house judiciary committee and member of the house democratic leadership, chairman of the democratic policy and communications committee. congressman, thank you for taking a few minutes. let me start on the news. you had a hearing scheduled tomorrow, you were hoping to hear from don mcgahn. the white house says they're telling him not to show up. what do you do now? >> well, obviously we hope mr. mcgahn will appear tomorrow, the claim of immunity which is a newly created claim, i think the white house recognizes executive privilege doesn't apply since mr. mcgahn testified for 30 hours and you can't apply executive privilege after you disclosed the communications. so now they're making this really broad claim that essentially says the president and his team are immune from congress before congress. that's legally incorrect and certainly a court will have to ultimately decide that. let me be clear, if don mcgahn doesn't testify, it is time to open impeachment inquiry. the

speaker and thank you congressman david cicilline. in florida and many other states lgbtq americans are still at rick being fired, aviggetted or denied services because of their xual orientation or gender identity. ms. shalala: they have harassment to the bias that older same-sex couples face. in the gallery today is christian baylor an openly gay and gender none conforming student who was barred from delivering his speech at his high school on account of his sexuality. two nights ago, he was honored hefner first hugh amendment award for education. today, we will take a crucial step for standing up for people like christian bypassing h.r. 5. and the birth of the modern lgbtq movement. there is no better way to honor the decades' long struggle for dignity and equality for lgbtq people and our elected leaders in congress to pass this legislation. i'm proud to support h.r. 5. the speaker pro tempore: you are not allowed to reference occupants in the gallery. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: i reserve. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, how

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i'm going to bring in david cicilline.or joining us. >> my pleasure. >> do you think he's afraid to come in as jerry nadler said, he's afraid of the questions he's going to be asked? >> it's pretty clear the attorney general objected to a process that we intend to follow tomorrow that the house rules permit, that the committee voted in favor of today to allow after members question the witness to allow the republicans and the democrats to have staff counsel do an additional hour of questioning. and it's really because it's hard to do five-minute questions, you can't do follow-up. to be sure that we get at the evidence we need to collect in this hearing it's a sensible thing, we've done it before but apparently mr. mueller refused to come because he did not want to subject himself to questioning by the staff attorneys. you have to wonder, what is he afraid of, what's he trying to hide? >> that's my question, if you've done everything by the book and you are the top law enforcement person in the country, what would you be af

between democrats and barr and a new report of fbi spying on the trump campaign with congressman david cicillinicilline, a top member of the house judiciary committee. plus. >> china is going to eat our lunch? come on, man. >> that's a very dumb statement to make. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel about push back to joe biden's comments on china from both the right and the lef left. and our "power player of the week," melinda gates on the moment a lift for women. >> are not afraid to say what i believe and what i know to be true. >> chris: all right now now on "fox news sunday." angelo again from fox news in washington. president trump got some good economic news this week, but it's been a rough patch for trump foreign policy. first, the failed uprising in venezuela as opposition leader one why don't was unable to get the military to overthrow disputed president nicolas maduro. then reports north korea fired several short range projectiles, raising tensions between washington and pyongyang. and russian president putin in the middle challenging the u.s. on both fronts. in a moment will disc

. >> on "fox news sunday," david cicilline said the date of the 15th has been the date to testify so far. >> the white house said they would not interfere. >> cicilline later testified on twitter nothing has been agreed to yet and that a date had only been proposed but not yet accepted. and in the meantime house judiciary chairman jerry nadler has given tone jern real barr until today to deliver an unredacted version of the report. brook? >> tom hanson here in new york. thanks. >>> the u.s. is deploying an aircraft carrier to the middle east after fears of a possible attack. it's in response to troubling indications and warnings from iran. among the those being dough employed is the "uss abraham lincoln carrier." . >>> the israeli army lifted potential restrictions on people living in southern israel signaling a cease-fire with gaza. over the weekend they bombarded israel with hundreds of rockets while israel carried out hundreds of air strikes. palestinian medical officials have confirmed israel's 23 deaths. four israelis were also killed. the bloody violence was the bloodiest since

democratic congressman david cicilline of richl.ing to show up before your committee today, himself lawyer has said. will you open up an inquiry? >> it is my opinion we should. there is unity on two issues, one is what we have to deliver on the promises we made to the american people and our for the people agenda to drive down health care costs, drive down the cost of prescription dug and getting we passed legislation to strengthen the aand we have to be sure we hold this president accountability, that no one is above the law and that we have to get to the truth. i think there comes a point where white house,s that not rue continue to compel the attendance of witnesses and appropriation dubs of documents to head hod. will there be a moo. >> i think again an impeachment inquiry is really just a formal opening of that question. in the nixon. and this is the end of the pross. . in the judiciary committee that we need to continue to compel witnesses, seek the production of document, lit i game it in court, to nol the course it takes us

joining me now is democratic congressman, david cicilline of rhode island. he's on both the house judiciary committee and the foreign relations committee. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. help us clear up the confusion. there was some confusion over the weekend about when exactly robert mueller will testify before the house judiciary committee. you said the committee proposed may 15th and, quote, hope the special counsel will agree to it, unquote. has he agreed to it and do you know what might be a holdup? >> no, he has not agreed to it. i know there are ongoing discussions. the chairman has proposed the 15th and set aside that day and we hope the special counsel will agree to appear on that day and testify before the american people. >> is it just an issue of scheduling or does the special counsel mueller have any issues about testifying publicly? >> i just don't think an agreement has been reached, mr. mueller has not agreed to come on that date. it's unclear whether he intends to come again. there are discussions ongoing. the chairman has in

cicilline: david cicilline from rhode island. we just arourned. we are extremely disappointed that the attorney general of the united states declined to appear before the judiciary committee. i think it's important to let that sink in for a moment. the attorney germ of the united states declined to appear voluntarily before the united states house of representatives committee on the judiciary. i think there is good reason in that the attorney general is uncomfortable coming before the committee and answering questions. we intend to ensure that we have the ability to get both the witnesses to testify under oath before the committee and the documents that are necessary to do our oversight work. that is the -- there are other members here. i think they want us in a group. and i think we will do whatever is necessary to get the documents we need to complete our work and bring witnesses before the committee under oath. our oversight responsibility is directly dependent on our ability to bring witnesses before the committee and compel the production of

speaker and thank you congressman david cicilline. in florida and many other states lgbtq americans are still at rick being fired, aviggetted or denied services because of their xual orientation or gender identity. ms. shalala: they have harassment to the bias that older same-sex couples face. in the gallery today is christian baylor an openly gay and gender none conforming student who was barred from delivering his speech at his high school on account of his sexuality. two nights ago, he was honored hefner first hugh amendment award for education. today, we will take a crucial step for standing up for people like christian bypassing h.r. 5. and the birth of the modern lgbtq movement. there is no better way to honor the decades' long struggle for dignity and equality for lgbtq people and our elected leaders in congress to pass this legislation. i'm proud to support h.r. 5. the speaker pro tempore: you are not allowed to reference occupants in the gallery. the gentleman from georgia. mr. collins: i reserve. mr. nadler: mr. speaker, how

joining me is congressman david cicilline who serves on the house judiciary and foreign affairs committee. thank you for being with us. good morning. >> my pleasure. good morning. >> when is robert mueller going to testify before your committee? >> we hope very soon. it will not happen this week according to the chairman. the committee is still in conversations with mr. mueller's team. we hope he will come before the committee. we all think it's very important that the american people hear directly from him as well as our committee so he can walk the american people through the contents of the mueller report, explain the judgments, the decisions he made, the evidence he collected during this investigation. so we hope it will happen very soon. >> i don't understand and i don't think the american people understand what the holdup is here. how does this work? does the judiciary chair call robert mueller and say, mr. mueller, we'd like to see you before our committee, can you make it on this day and mueller says yes or no? >> that's what happens originally. initially you ask witnesses, partic

you're certainly right that, you know, the david cicillines, the people who are sort of in the proimpeachmenting to stop because of this. >> no. we seem to be heading in that direction regardless. however slowly or fast. >> do you think there's one branch of this investigation that worries the president more than any other? deutsche bank, his taxes? >> i think it's the southern district that worries him more than anything. in terms of the congressional investigations, he does not want people having this information. but there are, as you know, a bunch of schools of thought as to why that is. is it because there's a bunch of sources of questionable income? foreign income? or is it going to show he's not that wealthy. i just don't know the answer. i can see donald trump digging in because other people want what he doesn't want to give them and sort of causing this self-inflicted wound. it doesn't help him if these documents come out closer to the election if there's something bad in them. if there's not something bad in them, it might be more problematic for democrats, i don't know. >> i don't

you have david cicilline. he's not going to loose re-election. until you start getting democrats in swing districts calling for impeachment, which there hasn't been, they're not going to move on it. it's politically toxic. >> leslie, the argument they would make, the high crime that they're talking about, is that the outrage of fighting against the investigation brought on by the fake dossier that was paid for by opposing candidates and was debunked and used to spy on the president? fighting back against that. is that the offense? >> no. what they're fighting against is what we heard special counsel mueller say yesterday and you didn't hear him say no collusion. he said the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so. he was clearly passing the buck to congress. >> what was the crime? >> you don't have to have a crime to abuse power. >> what is the offense? >> that's what they need to investigate to find out. >> what do you -- somebody has to name it. what is it? >> witness tampering. as the special counsel talked about on numerous oc

during the leadership meeting last night, committee members jamie raskin of maryland and david cicillineguse argued for impeachment if mcgahn failed to testify. he failed to testify. we said one thing will lead to another as we get information. we have other avenues here. the speaker stressed any consideration must be bipart an. in an interview with "morning joe," she was asked if justin amash, the first republican to signal support for impeachment meets that requirement. >> bipartisan support has been to be in the senate. >> doesn't it put more pressure on you that a conservative republican said the threshold has been met? >> no. >> why? >> this is not about politics or passion and it's not about prejudice. it's not about politics. it's about patriotism and the presentation of the facts. so that the american people can see why we are going down a certain path. it is and i feel confident that the people feel they need to know the truth and that's what we want to present to them. >> the democratic caucus meeting is tomorrow morning to give members an update on the investigation. john yarm

david cicilline laying it out from rhode island. they may go further than anybody ever thought. my question is for the president, what is next for him? >> i think he keeps on just laying down these markers. he know he's not going to get anything done now with the democrats. >> that means america loses. >> we've joked for the past two years it's infrastructure week and never gets done. this ticked him off to no end that nancy pelosi said that this morning. but you know, chuck schumer said this was preplanned. i don't know if it was preplanned. it was hastily planned. they printed up -- i've written a lot of notes. they printed up this and that -- the cardboard panel that the president had below the podium very quickly, they called this out in an instant. they knew going into the meeting at 11:00 this was doing to happen but i don't think they began the day knowing this would happen. >> infrastructure week, it's a jinx. thanks, john. here's the comment in case you missed it that set off this nuclear chain of events earlier. listen. >> it was a very positive meeting. respectful sha

i spoke with congressman david cicilline about this. congressman, what's the current status of mueller appearing in front of your committee? >> discussions are underway. there has been no agreement reached or commitment made but the committee hopes the special counsel will appear on the 15th of may. the american people have a right to hear from him as does the committee. >> you said discussions are underway, is that between the committee and the department of justice or with robert mueller? do you expect the white house will try to stop him from testifying because as of right now, he's still an employee of the doj. >> well, if you remember, the president initially said when asked that question whether he would stop mr. mueller from testifying, he said that the up to the attorney general and the attorney general testified publicly he had no objection to mr. mueller coming before the committee and the president immediately changed his mind and said mr. mueller should not testify. it's unclear whether the president will attempt to but i th

congressman david cicilline and chair of the house policy and communications committee. i am curious what goes through your head watching your republican colleague in that town hall in a republican district have this conversation. >> i admire justin amash very much. i don't agree with him on a lot of issues, but i respect his courage and respect the conclusion he has come to and there are a growing number of members of my caucus who think the time has come to open impeachment inquiry and consider whether or not it's appropriate to move for the. i like justin read the entire mueller report and it's hard to are the that report and not come to a conclusion that the president committed offenses that are impeachable. obstruction of justice is one of them. in addition to the president's behavior that is detailed in the mueller report, try to convince witnesses to lie and fire the special counsel and the list goes on and on. the president since the release of the report has engaged in an ongoing cover up to prevent congress from getting to the truth and acting as if he is above

democratic congressman david cicilline explains the next set for the house judiciary committee is isy to formally begin consideration of whether or not articles of impeachment should be filed. that committee's chairman is not using the i word yet, but jerry nadler does say given that special counsel mueller was unable to pursue criminal charges against the president, it falls to congress to respond to the crimes, lies, end of the wrongdoing president trump. "and we will do so." no one, not even the present united states, as above the law." the ranking member over there, doug collins, disagrees. he says, "while i had hoped he would come before the committee and answer questions from lawmakers, robert mueller has led an extra new life of public service and is entitled to his life as a private citizen once again. ." so far there is one setting democrats, justin amash, saying "the ball is in our court." that is where cory booker says we have one or many paths to ensure justice is served. with their legal and moral obligation to uphold those who committed crimes accountable. it's clear th

joining me is congressman david cicilline who serves on the house judiciary and foreign affairs committeeu for being with us. good morning. >> my pleasure. good morning. >> when is robert mueller going to testify before your committee? >> we hope very soon. it will not happen this week according to the chairman. the committee is still in conversations with mr. mueller's team. we hope he will come before the committee. we all think it's very important that the american people hear directly from him as well as our committee so he can walk the american people through the contents of the mueller report, explain the judgments, the decisions he made, the evidence he collected during this investigation. so we hope it will happen very soon. >> i don't understand and i don't th

david cicilline was saying -- he had to back off, now it's just a request. not 100% sure if it will happen or not. how hard do you think democrats will push on this and all other things for the next few days? >> very, very, very, very hard. we've seen so far what they've been doing, talking about a contempt crayation against barr. they want to hear from these folks, press the president on any number of officials who he said he doesn't want to have before congress. it is i think -- to errol's point, it's almost a difference between a book and a movie. maybe people don't read the book, in this case the mueller report, but the movie of mueller testifying before congress would be must-see television. we haven't really heard mueller's voice. most people probably don't know what he sounds like since he hasn't been in the public eye in a number of years. to hear him recount what we know happened in the mueller report, only something like 3% of the people actually read it. that would be a game-changer, something that democrats obviously want to see in the president.

member of the committee that will hear mueller's testimony if it happens, direct congressman david cicillineressman, attorney general barr saying he is fine with mueller testify, has that cleared the way for it to actually happen? where do the negotiations actually stand? >> well, we hope so. the negotiations between the committee staff and mr. mueller's team are ongoing. we hope that he will come before the committee. as you mentioned, the attorney general has now said he has no objection. we're back to that position. so it's very important for the american people to hear directly from special counsel mueller, that he has the opportunity to walk the american people and members of congress through the findings of his report. so i hope he will be before the committee in short order. >> are those discussions between the committee and mr. mueller or between the committee and the justice department? and if it is the justice department, because i guess he still works there, do you believe they're negotiating in god faith to make this happen? >> i hope they are. i mean i think mr. mueller is still

. >> leading off our discussion on the is democratic congressman david cicilline of rhode island, is he a member of the house judiciary committee. congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. your chairman jerry nadler just was on with rachel maddow where he announced that robert mueller's one of his conditions for testifying to the committee at this stage of negotiations is he wants to do it behind closed doors no, tv cameras prechbt, no media present, transcript to be released later. >>> yeah, i hope the negotiations will achieve a different result. i think it's very important that the american people hear from mr. mueller that he walk the american people and the judiciary committee through his report. to explain his findings, explain the judgments he made. this, of course, was a report done on behalf of the american people when our democracy was attacked by a foreign adversary. he details ten specific instances where the president obstructed justice. and lots of contacts between the trump campaign and russian operatives. people need to hear that directly from him. i hope we can

and there is david cicilline and you and others saying now is the time with mcgahn not showing up that forward. is there that division or there no the? >> as i was saying before i think those of us on the judiciary committee have been exposed to this overwhelming evidence of presidential obstructionism and in addition we are facing daily assaults on the constitution and rule of law by the president and by the executive branch. we are right on the front lines of this thing. i think, you know, we have a certain experience with the white house that brings us to a place where, you know, members who are on the science committee or the energy and commerce committee or so on are maybe not necessarily there yet. look, this is a team sport. we have hundreds of people in our caucus and it's a process and we've got to educate ourselves and we have to educate the public about the means within the constitution to deal with the crisis. >> i hear you, congressman raskin. it sounds like we're going to get some news from the chairman jerry nadler on that front in just a little while. we will wait for t

another development over the weekend was david cicilline, the member of the house judiciary committee it looked like there was a tentative deal for mueller to testify on may 15th. cicilline walked that back a little bit, but obviously, this is a very live issue about mueller's testimony. the judiciary committee wants him sooner rather than later. you know, i don't know what's going to happen. the president is the boss of the attorney general. he has now spoken out. i, you know, we'll see. ask abby phillips. ask her. >> but he's not the boss of robert mueller. >> that's exactly the question that i have. but it's not clear to me that president trump has the ability to stop robert mueller from testifying. i mean, on what grounds would he or even bill barr have to stop this testimony from happening. >> because he's a private citizen. >> not yet. >> but today, he could say, i quit the department of justice, thanks very much, and would be a private citizen. >> well, that's correct. that is correct that once mueller leaves, he's in a different position. but it is quite clear that the mueller

david cicilline saying that don mcgahn's empty chair at this house judiciary hearing is a tipping pointto bring impeachment inquiry against the president. is this a tipping point for you? >> for me, i take my cues and my direction from people in my district. so what i keep hearing as i did a town hall this past weekend is continuing to talk about health care, continuing to talk about infrastructure. they're raising questions about what's happening with iran and iraq right now. and these are the questions that i'm focused on here in congress. >> and i have heard that from others. but if you are not in a place of impeachment now, do you think starting impeachment proceedings would be helpful to you? >> there's a place for oversight, but you know, we also need to make sure we're continuing on with the legislation. i don't sit on these committees of jurisdiction, but for me, my job is to focus in on what the needs of my district are, and that's what i'm doing here. >> what is your bigger concern here, as you're saying you're taking your cues from your district. is it that moving towards imp

outfront now democratic congressman david cicilline. he is a democrat signed on the lawsuit. he sits on the house judiciary committee. thanks if for being with me congressman. this seems to boil down to reading through the 11-beige filing, and see you want the president's personal and business financial records. you want to start getting them in june, as soon as june. is there anything off limits? >> well, i think it's important, erin, to recognize that this grows out of in very basic principle that we need confidence that the president of the united states is making decisions in the best interests of the country and not because of some financial stake or because of some financial gain. pan so when we know for sure that the president received 38 trademarks from the chinese government, gnat chinese government and the uae are renting space at trump tower, that diplomats have been renting hotels, foreign governments paying for them at trump properties, it raises serious questions as to whether or not in violates a prohibitition in the constitution that prevents the president fro

one democrat who supports an impeachment inquiry, david cicilline, said that doing so would convey the seriousness of an investigation moving forward. and i'm told this is one area that jerry nadler brought up with nancy pelosi in a closed-door meeting on monday. she said "no" to that. moving forward in that respect, but this will be a topic of discussion, jake, at a closed-door meeting tomorrow with the full democratic caucus on the agenda. investigations and talk of impeachment. jake? >> deep divisions. manu raju on capitol hill, thanks so much. joining me now is democratic congresswoman and former chief of police with orlando, florida, val demmings. she serves on the house judiciary committee. congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. we appreciate it. your committee just issued subpoenas for hope hicks, the former white house communications director, and for annie donaldson, the former chief of staff for white house counsel don mcgahn. what specifically does the committee, do you want to ask them about. >> hi, jake. well, it's great to be here. and right, it's been quite a day.

that includes david cicilline, the judiciary committee member, as well as jared huffman, another congressman who said that we should be getting behind an impeachment inquiry. one person went a little bit further, i'm told, at this meeting, ocasio-cortez, the outspoken freshman liberal congresswoman who said, we should impeach the president, put pressure on the senate to act. but decidedly, i am told, at that meeting, they were in the minority. roughly seven or so other members spoke up. they called for getting behind pelosi's more methodical approach, not embracing impeachment at the moment. and six democratic chairman also laid out their plans to investigate. and only one suggested we should move forward with impeachment, that's maxine waters, the california democrat, who's been an outspoken supporter of impeachment. so right now pelosi believes her caucus is mostly on her side. they believe her strategy going through the courts, is working, going the route of impeachment is not necessarily where to go at the moment and that has at least at the moment, they feel like they've got their caucu

co-chair of the lgbtq caucus and my colleague, congressman david cicilline from rhode island. he worked with lawyers from the left and right and religious groups to make sure the language of the equality act achieved full legal equality while doing nothing to undermine existing civil rights protections for other marginalized groups. the bill is supported by 130 largest employers of the country, largest labor unions and hundreds of organizes including to name just a few, the leadership council for civil rights. the n arch ac pmp. the episcopal church, the united church of christ. importantly, it is , it supported by a clear and overwhelming majority of the american people. 71% of americans support legislation like the equality act to protect lgbtq people against discrimination in employment, housing and public accommodations. rarely does congress have the chance to take up legislation for clearly supported by our constituents. that's probably why since the day the bill was first introduced in 2015, it has always earned bipartisan support and currently has republican co-sponsors

david cicilline, democratic congressman from rhode island, a lower tier leader in the membership, we have to go for impeachment. elijah cummings, chair of house oversight committee, said be very careful, be about freshman members who are vulnerable, that could be a problem for them. there is a divide. i asked house speaker nancy pelosi multiple times. she said there is no divide. only those of us in the press. what really happened here, neil, when the speaker came out an made those remarks about a coverup, that seemed to inflame everything. remind me after quote in the "the dark tower" by steven king too many shaking hands holding lighters near too many fuses that is the volatility we have e white house, and that we have here at capitol hill. neil: you raise an interesting point. the stephen king analogy brilliant, i didn't think beyond infrastructure, the two-year budget ideas kicking around and solving the debt ceiling issue before we're on the brink but it seems to at least for the time-being doing exactly that. reporter: steve mnuchin, this morning he spoke with our colleague hil

you're probably hearing it, david cicilline had a discussion, may 15th is a tentative date. what if anything could stop him from testifying? >> the trump administration, including attorney general barr who remains his boss have said they're perfectly willing to let bob mueller testify. it's what's convenient for his schedule, if that's the case, but it could be the case that the trump administration reverses itself and says they're not going to let him testify, orders him not to show up. that's the thing that does not look like it's going to happen, but unless and until the day happens and he shows up and raises his hand and takes the oath, i think we should wait and see. >> okay, but i know you want to wait and see but is there a sense, charlie, that a testimony by bob mueller could change the narrative at all, the with thaun followed t one that followed the release of the findings by bill barr? >> that's the huge question. the question is raised, attorney general barr puts out this four-page letter and for four weeks, or three weeks, that's the public's understanding. very

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the head of the house democrats communications committee david cicilline was asked if there will be a on the floor today. >> i do not. >> you think there should be? >> there are a number of committees considering contempt citations as well and do more than one at a time. i think that's the way. >> the reality is there is not enough votes for conviction in the senate. requires a 2/3 majority. it's not there. jon, back to you. >> jon: doug mcelway on capitol hill. >> sandra: let's bring in tom dupree, former assistant attorney general under president bush. good morning, tom. great to have you here. you saw the live shot at the hearing room. don mcgahn is not going to show. the white house has directed him not to. he has put out a statement he will not be there. what happens next with this showdown. >> the tables are set for a constitutional clash. look, i think the white house is staking out a position that is constitution nallly principled. there is a history of asserting executive privilege where congress tries to get a senior executive branch official up to the hill to testify under