. >> one whistleblower, former agent david grush, went as far to say the u.s.sesses the body of an alien pilot. >> do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> biologics came with the discoveries, yes. >> were they human or nonhuman biologics? >> nonhuman. >> emily: ainsley, nonhuman body of alien pilot. >> ainsley: i was one growing up that would laugh at people, i thought they were wacko for thinking this. after yesterday, holy cow. it is interesting, people involved are very credible. david grush, he is former air force officer and intel official and smells like they don't want us to know any of this when you hear his testimony. he said the feds have ufo's and bodies of nonhumans, the government is hiding captured ufo's, he know the location. he can't reveal whether anyone was murdered to keep secrets contained. he has personal knowledge of people being harmed or injured trying to cover up this technology. agh. >> emily: kennedy, anyone who heard of bob lazar, know there are multiple people to reverse engineer the material science ufos they

>>ra david charles grush, intelligence officer for 14 rc years in u.s.orce, rank of major and most recently national geo spatial agencies. >> united states navy. >> laura: those three men testified before congress today revealing shocking details about what we call ufo, the governmeni call unidentified ariel phenomenal. these men served our country bi withpa honor and no one called into question their integrity or credibility, but the testimony, it has to be taken seriously. >>rspa uap are in air space and under reported, sightings are not rare or isolated, they are routine. accurate oifksz are frequently witnessing theof phenomena. >> i was informed of a multi decadeev uap crash retrieval an reverse engineering program. >> tech nol we faced was far superiorca than anything we had. talking going to space, go somet place, drop down in a matter ofe seconds, do whatever it wants and leave and nothing we can do about it. nothing.ven >> laura: they even talked about the g-forces they have seen, when you feel your body . accelerate against the body.os >> talk

fantastical as that sounds, it's true >> reporter: as former high ranking intelligence officer david grush telling newsnation he's blowing the whistle on a government cover-up going back over a half a century but admitting he has not seen any craft or bodies, but all the ufo hype enough to prompt senator chuck schumer to propose new legislation that would set a 300-day deadline for agencies to find any records and turn them over to a review board that could declassify them. >> either they're telling the truth, and that is something that obviously would be the biggest story in human history, or we have people in really important positions of government who are crazy. >> reporter: now, the government has denied those claims you heard, and grush has denied our request to interview him saying he won't talk until after he testifies in front of congress that could happen within the month all of this a very bizarre story but one that seems to be headed to capitol hill tom, back to you >> all right, if the truth is out there, gadi, we know you will find it. >>> up next, messi mania. a soccer super

. >> reporter: but david grush whose allegations of a government cover-up was headline news had the most shocking testimony. >> have you met with people, with direct knowledge or have direct knowledge yourself of nonhuman origin craft? >> yes. i personally interviewed those individuals. >> reporter: he is a veteran of the pentagon's intelligence community. >> if you believe we have crashed crafts, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> as i stated publicly already in my nation interview, a biologics came with the recoveries. >> were they human or non- human? >> non-human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program i talked to who are currently still on the program. >> the big take away for me in today's hearings on this was that there was no real physical evidence being presented are. >> reporter: the seti institute believes there is extraterrestrial life somewhere, just not here. >> it is all witness testimony. which as you know, is not great evidence for anything. >> reporter: the doctor would rather see alien bodies and spacecraft

congressman tim burchett says at a hearing next week, lawmakers will hear testimony from david grush,ment has a taxpayer funded program that recovers and stores crashed. >> alien spacecraft non-human exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed. >> we have spacecraft that from another species. >> we do? yeah. how many? quite a number. >> the pentagon says an investigation has found no verifiable information to substantiate russia's claims. lawmakers will also hear from david fravor, a retired navy commander who recorded this video in 2004 showing a tic tac shaped object over the pacific. oh my gosh, dude. >> wow. look at that. oh, man. look at that fly. >> skeptics believe the sightings could be advanced drones or optical illusions. the military intelligence officer leading the pentagon task force on ufos says they're analyzing more than 800 cases dating back decades. >> i have a full range of hypotheses. there's on this end of the spectrum. it's advanced technology that's coming from an adversary right in the middle have all my known objects, balloons and drones and bird

. >> reporter: former intelligence officer david grush will tell congress tomorrow that he was deniedccess to information on a secret government ufo crash retrieval program, something the pentagon disputes. astronomer seth show stack said the pentagon would have little incentive to cover up ufo encounters. >> why would they do that? and almost invariably the response is, well, the public couldn't handle the news. that's -- that's totally bonkers, right? >> reporter: but new york democrat kirsten gillibrand says more transparency is critical. the increasing number of objects in the sky could be a threat to military aircraft. >> these pilots, they see it as urgent for a national security reason to have domain awareness. they could crash into these objects. >> reporter: congress, which for years has avoided this topic of unidentified phenomena, tomorrow will give it a big and bipartisan platform. when these three people take the witness stand to describe their own encounters with ufos, it won't just be u.s. media watching, but i'm told several international news outlets watching this roo

course of my official duties of a multi decade uap crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, david grushd alongside two former fighter pilots who reported seeing ufos, telling the congressional oversight committee that the us has been aware of these mysterious objects for nearly a century. >> i like to use the term non-human. >> i don't like to denote origin keeps the aperture open. previously in 1930. >> it's the latest in the disclosure surrounding unidentified aerial phenomena or uaps the government's term for ufos. and while the mention of ufos brings to mind images of otherworldly creatures emerging from a futuristic spaceship, those in washington are more concerned that sightings like these from fighter pilots could be tied to america's foreign adversary. but grush claims not all the encounters have been of this earth. >> do you believe we have crashed? craft it stated earlier. do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> biologics came with some of these recoveries. yeah >> were they, i guess, human or non-human biologics? non-human >> and that was the assessment

former air force intelligence officer david grush appearing before house lawmakers testifying about what he claims is a decades old government program to recover and re-engineer crashed alien spacecraft, claiming that the us is in possession of alien bodies . >> biologics came with some of these recoveries. >> yeah. >> were they, i guess, human or non-human biologics? >> non-human. >> and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program i talked to that are currently still on the program. >> the pentagon has previously denied similar accusations. lawmakers on both sides tonight calling for more investigation when we come back here. mick jagger is 80 and keith richards with a funny message for him tonight. >> what if my type two diabetes takes over? >> what if all i do isn't enough? or what if i can do diabetes? >> define urgently. >> now you can with once weekly manjaro manjaro helps your body regulate blood sugar and manjaro can help decrease how much food you eat. >> three out of four people reached an a1c of less than 7% plus people taking manjaro lost up to 25 p

. >> todd: military veterans who say they have first-hand accounts of -- air force officer david grushwhistleblower following concerning reports from multiple current and former military individuals that the u.s. government is operating with secrecy above congressional oversight with regard to uap's. the existential question, will we know if we are alone in the universe after today's hear something >> good question, what committee wean be, we will not bring in a ufo, we have two patriotic americans who have come forward at great risk of their own and credentials are beyond reproach. i think we will. i think these gentlemen will layout good case for that, a lot of video is out, the tic-tac video is out. he was chasing the ufo. the pentagon says they don't exist, yet i propose legislation and the faa reauthorization that says if commercial pilots have a sighting and make report to the faa, it would be made to congress. that was blocked by the allegedly intelligence community, whoever that is. that is like congressional ethics, i don't think it exists. >> todd: why do you think that is an

official david grush testified about ufos and reports, believe it or not, that the government is in possessionins. he offered no evidence to support that claim, but it was made under oath, and it was just one of many claims from today's congressional hearing on ufos or uap's, unidentified aerial phenomenon, as the pentagon now likes to call them. grush also claimed the government has a program to reverse uaps. but again, he offered no evidence and the pentagon has denied it. recently there has been a bipartisan push from lawmakers trying to get the government to be more transparent on uaps, especially after more videos like these were made public. >> oh, my gosh, dude. wow. >> what is that, man. >> that looks like a [ bleep ] drone, bro. there's a whole fleet of them. look on my asa. >> my gosh. they're going against the wind. the wind is 120 knots to the west. >> whoa, dude! whoo-hoo. >> roger. >> [ bleep ]. >> today's witnesses say uaps pose a national security risk but there still remains a stigma surrounding the topic. >> these these objects were comy stationary in category 4 hurricane win

retired major david grush says the government has the remains of nonhuman ufo pilots. >> if you believepublicly in my interview, buy logics came with some of these recoveries, yes. >> were they human or nonhuman? >> nonhuman. that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program. >> we should note that he did say in his testimony he did not have firsthand experience with any nonhuman material, but offered to provide information of the people who did. joining me now is one of the people who testified this week, ryan graves, the former navy fighter pilot ands defense contractor. s he's now the executive director of americans for safe aerospace. i really appreciate your time this morning. i just want to get your take on what grush had to testify about. nonhuman remains of ufo pilots. do you believe or have you seen any evidence that the u.s. government may have these identified flying objects or buy logics in possession? >> my experience with flying off the eastern sea board, i don't have the information relating to the buy logics. the information i have is we were experie

the third to testify, former air force intelligence officer david grush had this exchange with representative> do you believe officials at the national security apparatus have withheld information from congress and subverted our oversight authority? >> there are certain elected leaders that had more information. i'm not sure what they have shared. but certain ly. >> based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts u do you believe our government has made contact with intelligence extraterrestrials? >> something i can't discuss in a public setting. >> dp you believe we have crashed craft, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> biologics came with some of these recoveries, yes. >> were they human or nonhuman? >> nonhuman, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program that are currently still in the program. >> nonhuman, he said. the hearing received sharp criticism in a posting by dr. shawn who runs the pentagon' recently formed all domain resolution office. i cannot let yesterday's hearing pass without sharing how insulting

yes personally, david grush is a former intelligence officer who says the government has something to hide, perhaps even a spacecraft. do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? biologics came with some of these recoveries. were they? i guess, human or non-human biologics? non-human lawmakers say the pentagon is not being upfront. we can't trust a government that does not trust its people. we're going to uncover the cover up. grush testified that some military personnel faced hostile encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena, but could not get specific. i know of multiple colleagues of mine that got physically injured in aids. the activity by by uaps or by by people within the federal government. both eric burleson is a skeptic. he asks how an advanced race could get to earth, but not be able to survive a crash. i find a little bit farfetched. lawmakers demand transparent if there's nothing to conceal, let congress go to wright-patterson air force base. the dugway proving ground, or even groom lake in nevada. the pentagon has documented ufo reports since last year

. >> david grush was the marquee witness. he's a former intelligence officers and whistle-blower.elieves the government could be hiding remains of aliens. grush said he has faced threats. >> i call it administrative terrorism. that's their quiver in the tool box to silence people. career government service cares about their career, their reputation to climb the ladder. >> the pilots said there's a culture in the military about speaking out about things that they see in the skies. martha? >> martha: thanks, chad. with that, we bring in anna paulina luna that was in the hearing today. she's a member of the house oversight committee that is seeing a lot of action and an air force veteran. congress woman, great to have you with us today. are you convinced these officials were telling the truth that the united states government is keeping nonnonhuman remains and vehicles under wraps? >> you know, martha, after everything that i witnessed the last couple months looking into this as well as being denied access to information about egg land air force base, only to see images for my own se

one of the people who testified is david grush, a former u.s.craft but also what he referred to as non-human biologics. >> we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft. >> as i've stated publicly already in my news nation iolog some of these recoveries. >> were they i guess human or non-human biologics? >> not human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge that are currently st the program. >> have you seen any of the bodies? >> that's something i've not witnessed myself. >> in a statement, a pentagon spokeswoman said the task force has, quote, not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate those claims. let's bring in professor ofs a tro physics at the university of rochester, he's also the author of "the little book of aliens" that explores the age old question of whether we are alone in this universe or not. thank you for being here. i wonder what you make his testimony? >> well, first of all, it's great that people are interested in the stuff i study as a scientist, you know, in terms of life in the u

. >> reporter: but david grush whose allegations of a government copup was headline news had the mostg testimony. >> do you have any knowledge yourself? >> yes, i personally interviewed the individuals. >> reporter: he is a veteran of the pentagon's intelligence community. >> if you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> as i have stated publicly already in my news nation interview biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah. >> reporter: were they i guess human or nonhuman bilogics? >> nonhuman and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program i talked to that are currently still on the program. >> the big take away for me today and today's hears on this was there there was no real physical evidence being presented. >> reporter: the doctor of the setti institute believes there's extraterrestrial life somewhere. just not here. >> it's all you know, witness testimony. which as you know, is not great evidence or just about any day. >> reporter: the doctor would rather see alien bodies

the third to testify, former air force intelligence officer david grush had this exchange with representative> do you believe officials at the highest levels of our national security apparatus have unlawfully withheld information from congress and cob verted our oversight authority? >> there are certain elected leaders that had more information. i'm not sure what they have shared with certain members, but certainly i would not be surprised. >> you've stated the government is in possession of potentially non human spacecraft. based on your experience and extensive conversations with experts, do you believe our government has made contact with intelligent extra ter rest yells. >> something something i can't state. biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah. >> were they, i guess, human or nonhuman biologics? >> nonhuman and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program of people i talked to that are currently still on the program. >> the hearing received sharp criticism. in a linkedin posting by sean kirk patri w runs the all e n anomaly resolution office, kirk

david grush for those who don't know, was briefing presidents, had a top level security clearance and documentation in front of him and he knows what he's talking about. he's incredibly eloquent, incredibly intelligent, and very well qualified to discuss this . so qualified to discuss this. so either is lying, which in either he is lying, which in under oath, which they are, it comes many, penalties, comes with many, many penalties, including jail time, or he's telling something of a truth and something is out there. >> indeed, we shall wait and see. you think six months time we might get more ? we might get more? >> that's been built into legislation where private contract makers like boeing, lockheed martin have been told, if you do have anything, it's time to hand it over. >> okay, we'll make a date, get you back on in six months time. thanks very much indeed for your time. now is it phenomenal in a phenomenon ? phenomenon? >> i still can't say that word objects . objects. yeah. we'll objects. objects. yeah. we'll keep we'll keep it basic. as we were discussing earlier, a judge has

but david grush is a former intelligence officer he's intelligence officer and he's mid—thirties whoational and david national security. and david grush said he has seen the documentation and imagery which shows that the united states and partners have not only potential crashed spacecraft, but biologics, which includes the pilots of non—human origin of these craft as well. and he's passed on those details and information to folks behind the scenes in congress. >> but how does he know that some people aren't having a laugh him just saying, laugh with him and just saying, oh, yeah let's trick him. oh, go on. yeah let's trick him. let's put some an old foot let's put some like an old foot in thing. but it isn't a in his thing. but it isn't a foot. you foot. it's something silly. you know does he know what i mean? how does he know what i mean? how does he know that people aren't just taking out him or taking the mickey out of him or trying you know, because trying to, you know, because there's people who kind there's a lot of people who kind of make things up. of make make things up. >>

this stuff and no, but this is really pertinent because this senior intelligence official, dave david grushwalling on evidence of crashed ufos, recovered beings and ufo deaths. they've got actual alien corpses in their hangar and a lot of a lot of high ranking military people, air force people have witnessed things and sometimes even filmed things that really can't be explained. if they declassify these files, then we'll for all. it we'll know once and for all. it does suspicious when does make me suspicious when the government stuff, does make me suspicious when the gov< know, tl stuff, does make me suspicious when the gov

whistleblower david grush suggests that people have been murdered as part of a conspiracy to keep alienaft a secret . now, the spacecraft a secret. now, the big story here, because i know chris is not big on aliens, i think the big story here ultimately that we've been ultimately is that we've been lied over the years. so what lied to over the years. so what we're absolutely we're saying an absolutely fascinated by this story and by the way, if people have been murdered and this murdered to try and keep this secret secret, they were murdered because it murdered in vain because it seems like all the details are coming out on an almost coming out on a on an almost weekly basis now, so they neednt weekly basis now, so they needn't bothered . needn't have bothered. >> might be >> however, they might be murdered ago . mean, murdered decades ago. i mean, they got through they might have got through the cold everything is out cold war and everything is out now. that makes it never sleeps. >> exactly. and makes >> exactly. and that makes it perfectly slogan . i perfectly an x—files slogan. i do

whistleblower david grush suggests that people have been murdered as part of a conspiracy to keep alienaft a secret . now, the spacecraft a secret. now, the big story here, because i know chris is not big on aliens, i think the big story here ultimately that we've been ultimately is that we've been lied over the years. so what lied to over the years. so what we're absolutely we're saying an absolutely fascinated by this story and by the way, if people have been murdered and this murdered to try and keep this secret secret, they were murdered because it murdered in vain because it seems like all the details are coming out on an almost coming out on a on an almost weekly basis now, so they neednt weekly basis now, so they needn't bothered . needn't have bothered. >> might be >> however, they might be murdered ago . mean, murdered decades ago. i mean, they got through they might have got through the cold everything is out cold war and everything is out now. that makes it never sleeps. >> exactly. and makes >> exactly. and that makes it perfectly slogan . i perfectly an x—files slogan. i do

this stuff and no, but this is really pertinent because this senior intelligence official, dave david grushstonewalling on evidence of crashed ufos, recovered beings and ufo deaths. they've got actual alien corpses in their hangar and a lot of a lot of high ranking military people, air force people have witnessed things and sometimes even filmed things that really can't be explained. if they declassify then declassify these files, then we'll all. it we'll know once and for all. it does suspicious when does make me suspicious when the government stuff, does make me suspicious when the gov< know, tl stuff, does make me suspicious when the gov

the answer today seemed to be a a definite no from david can grush.if we have these recovered craft, you know, maybe the point is we haven't been able to figure out how they, how they fly even. the technology is perhaps beyond us at present. david: now, the most shocking claim, i think, that we heard today was that we actually have the body of a spaceman. i just want to play the encounter with congresswoman nancy mace in which that claim was made. roll tape. >> do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> biologics came with only some of these recoveries, yeah. >> were they, i guess, human or nonhuman biologics? >> nonhuman. david: do you believe that, nick, that that we actually have the bodies of people from another world? >> well, you know, i have -- [audio difficulty] where he has sat at the heart of the intelligence community studying this officially. the united states did not share much information with us brits, i have to say, despite the five is intelligence sharing alliance. i hope it's true. and in one sense, it had better

so the whistleblower david grush, told a stunned capitol hill audience in washington, dc that the usashed alien spacecraft and evidence of extraterrestrial life since the 1930. as if you believe we have crashed crash , it stated crashed crash, it stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> as i've stated publicly already in my news nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. yeah >> were they, i guess, human or non—human biologics ? non—human biologics? >> non—human? and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program i talked to that are currently still on the program. um, i mean , shaun bailey, i absolutely believe in alien life. >> i absolutely believe there's been cover ups and we need to know about it. >> this intent, i cannot believe grown people with really serious careers are peddling this nonsense. sure i'm going to need some really in—depth , reputable some really in—depth, reputable evidence before i get on board. >> andrea, look at what he was saying. i'm sorry. do you do you believe in e.t . be

so the whistleblower david grush, told a stunned capitol hill audience in washington, dc that the usashed alien spacecraft and evidence of extraterrestrial life since the 1930. as if you believe we have crashed crash , it stated crashed crash, it stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft? >> as i've stated publicly already in my news nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries. yeah >> were they, i guess, human or non—human biologics ? non—human biologics? >> non—human? and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program i talked to that are currently still on the program. um, i mean , shaun bailey, i absolutely believe in alien life. >> i absolutely believe there's been cover ups and we need to know about it. >> this intent, i cannot believe grown people with really serious careers are peddling this nonsense. sure i'm going to need some really in—depth , reputable some really in—depth, reputable evidence before i get on board. >> andrea, look at what he was saying. i'm sorry. do you do you believe in e.t . be

we heard from yesterday, david grush was part of that group.ever had these are the people who would know. and yet, according to what we heard in congress , to what we heard in congress, no, this has been eliminate noted. it's not terrestri . well, noted. it's not terrestri. well, according to this. now, of course , it's a big claim and course, it's a big claim and congress has more work to do to validate this and that work will go on all summer. nasa is going to report very shortly , the to report very shortly, the intelligence committee and the armed services committee in congress , in both the senate and congress, in both the senate and the house. they're all looking at this. i mean, just imagine if this was happening in the uk. but, you know, in the us, this is recognised as a national security and defence issue. >> i mean, as you say, it has been remarkable really such a bipartisan issue being heard in in congress, but a lot of this is about secrecy in the pentagon , isn't it? and implying that they know a lot more than what they're letting

david, but yet he's another whistleblower. g i'm hearing more whistle blowing a congress that when i walk through times when i wree time square in a speedo. mer in yeah. grush is the former intel officer who last month claimedte agon w pentagon was hiding a topas secret alien program, complete with nong a to human vehiclesdis and even bodies. >> he even says they're hiding info fre about adam schiff's home planet anchor and the allegations have also renewed interest in the pentagon'sthe ae ufo department, the newly created all domainpa anomaly resolution office or blah blah has been tasked with identifying and tracking mysterious objects that could pose a risk to national security unless, of course, it's white house cocainetly se and yeah. >> oh, they recentlynt said one of their top concerns is intelligent or extraterrestrial technical inte. se is so not only might aliens exist, but they might be smarter they equipped, which wouldn't be tough. have you seen earthlings lately ? meantime, chuck schumer introduced an amendment to declassiftroducedy all govert data on ufos. >> in it, he repeatedly used the term non-human, which, if ab couldk about it, he have